May 2015 - lac-discuss-en - lists.icann.org

Re: [lac-discuss-en] About our showcase
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org May 9, 2015

May 9, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: About our showcase From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Aida, must be close because there are important speakers have their complete calendar, and have little time to move. I'm finding out in the short time I travel to Buenos Aires. Here no one else. The estimated amount is 70 people. Regards Alberto Soto From: Aida Noblia [mailto: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com] Posted on: Saturday, May 9, 2015 8:06 pm To: Alberto Soto CC: LACRALO Spanish Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] On our showcase There must be some close cheaper. How many people are estimated to actually go?I did not see many while in B Aires was to have to be in a big place .. Regards The May 9, 2015, 19:57, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> > He wrote: Dear, for those unable to attend the meeting on the showcase, want to tell the following: - In the last showcase in Buenos Aires (November 2013) ICANN contributed with $ s 2.000,00. This year you do with u $ s 1250.00. Rodrigo de la Parra contributed u $ s 1500.00. It is a total, for now deu $ s 2750.00. I'm waiting for official confirmation of the sponsorship of Google Inc. which would add more u $ s 500.00. And starting Monday I have one or two alternatives. I hope to get lucky. - In November 2013, the Sheraton Hotel took so served (finger food plus drinks), u $ s 1500.00. For this event takes u $ s 2500.00 by an unknown menu until the day of the date. - Even though I requested it about a month ago, we failed to send in the corresponding menu, for substance and compare with other menus that I got from other suppliers, since there is a difference of more than u $ s 1,000 00 but missing the place to do outside the Hotel Sheraton. I remind you that the Sheraton Hotel for events not allow access to third party suppliers, which we are required to hire their services. - It is normal to give a small gift to those participating. It was also planned a live show, folklore, tango and tango dance classes. But if we fail more sponsorship, and accept the Sheraton eyes closed, we would u $ s 250.00. - This amount does not even reach for the live show. - I was planning to buy a small woodwork, conducted by the indigenous community Wichis, but the value is approximately $ s 800.00 - I sent an email to Alan Greemberg to see if I could do to send us the menu does not appear, but got no response. We will meet next week with the WG showcase, in making determinations, given the little time remaining for the event. Alternative A is to do at the Sheraton and the B outside area but very close to it. If we have to do so within the Sheraton, it is likely to make a drastic reduction in the menu are still unknown, and ask them to come to Buenos Aires if they can work with something Herlen Sylvia Leite has suggested. In the worst case there will be no food or drink, if it is within the Sheraton, and other live entertainment, gifts and raffles. I hope your comments, and that for the next meeting can participate. Best regards Alberto Soto _____ <http://www.avast.com/> Avast antivirus software scanned this email for viruses. www.avast.com <http://www.avast.com/> _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6467370b38.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] About our showcase
by aidanoblia＠gmail.com May 9, 2015

May 9, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: About our showcase From: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com There must be some close cheaper. Many people are estimated actually they go? I did not see many a time it was in B Aires to it has to be in a big place .. Regards The May 9, 2015, 19:57, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> He wrote: > Estimados, para quienes no pudieron asistir a la reunión sobre el > showcase, quiero comentarles lo siguiente: > > - En el último showcase en Buenos Aires (Noviembre 2013) ICANN > contribuyó con u$s 2.000,00. Para este año lo hace con u$s 1250,00. Rodrigo > de la Parra contribuyó con u$s 1.500,00. Es un total, por ahora deu$s > 2750,00. Estoy esperando la confirmación oficial del sponsoreo de Google > Inc. con lo cual sumaríamos u$s 500,00 más. Y a partir del lunes tengo una > o dos alternativas más. Espero tener suerte. > > - En Noviembre de 2013, el Hotel Sheraton cobró por lo que > sirvió (finger food más bebidas), u$s 1.500,00. Para este evento cobra u$s > 2.500,00 por un menú desconocido hasta el dia de la fecha. > > - Aún pese a que lo solicité hace como un mes, no hemos logrado > que nos envíen el menú correspondiente, para conocer su contenido y > comparar con otros menúes que obtuve de otros proveedores, dado que hay una > diferencia de más de u$s 1.000,00 aunque faltaría el lugar para hacerlo > fuera del Hotel Sheraton. Les recuerdo que el Hotel Sheraton para sus > eventos no permite el acceso de tercero proveedores, con lo cual estamos > obligados a contratar sus servicios. > > - Es normal entregar algún pequeño regalo a quienes participen. > También estaba previsto un espectáculo en vivo, de folklore, tango y clases > de baile de tango. Pero si no logramos más sponsoreo, y aceptamos a ojos > cerrados lo del Sheraton, nos quedarían u$s 250,00. > > - Ese monto ni siquiera alcanza para el espectáculo en vivo. > > - Estaba previsto comprar una pequeña artesanía en madera, > realizada por la comunidad indígena Wichis, pero el valor es de > aproximadamente u$s 800,00 > > - Le envié un mail a Alan Greemberg para ver si podía hacer que > nos enviaran ese menú que no aparece, pero tampoco obtuve respuesta. > > Nos reuniremos la semana próxima con el WG del showcase, para tomar > determinaciones, dado el poco tiempo que resta para el evento. > > La alternativa A es realizarlo en el Sheraton y la B afuera, pero en zona > muy cercana al mismo. > > Si tenemos que hacerlo dentro del Sheraton, es muy probable que hagamos > una drástica reducción del menú que todavía desconocemos , y les pidamos a > quienes vengan a Buenos Aires si pueden colaborar con algo que Sylvia > Herlen Leite ha sugerido. > > En el peor de los casos no habrá bebida ni comida, si es dentro del > Sheraton, y sí espectáculo en vivo, regalos y sorteos. > > Espero vuestros comentarios, y que para la próxima reunión puedan > participar. > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > ------------------------------ > [image: Avast logo] <http://www.avast.com/> > > El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en > busca de virus. > www.avast.com > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > Aida Noblia [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/7689a1aa26.html --]]

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About our showcase
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org May 9, 2015

May 9, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: About our showcase From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Dear, for those unable to attend the meeting on the showcase, I want to tell the following: - In the last showcase in Buenos Aires (November 2013) ICANN contribuycon u $ s 2000.00. For this year it does with u $ s 1250.00. Rodrigo de la Parra contribuycon u $ s 1500.00. It is a total, for now deu $ s 2750.00. I'm waiting for official confirmation of the sponsorship of Google Inc. with which we add u $ s 500.00 ms. And starting Monday I have one or two alternatives ms. I hope to get lucky. - In November 2013, the Sheraton Hotel cobrpor what sirvitbNL> (finger food more drinks), u $ s 1500.00. For this event takes u $ s 2.500,00 by unknown men until the day of the date. - An even though it solicithace a month, we have not been able to We enven the corresponding men, to know its contents and compare other volumes that I got from other suppliers, since there is a difference s more than US $ 1,000.00 while missing the place to do it outside the Hotel Sheraton. I remind you that the Sheraton Hotel for events not allow third party access providers, which we are required to hire their services. - It is normal to give sb small gift to those participating. Also it planned a show live, folklore, tango and classes tango dance. But if we fail more sponsorship, and accept eyes closed at the Sheraton, we remain u $ s 250.00. - This amount does not even reach for the spectacle live. - It planned to buy a small wooden craft, by the community indgena Wichis, but the value is approximately $ s 800.00 - Le enviun mail to Alan Greemberg to see if he could get us send this menu does not appear, but got no response. We will meet the Prxima week to showcase WG to take determinations, given the little time remaining for the event. Alternative A is to do at the Sheraton and the B outside, but in area very close to it. If we have to do so within the Sheraton, is likely to make an drastic reduction of men who still know, and ask them to those who come to Buenos Aires if they can work with something that Sylvia Herlen Leite has suggested. In the worst case not habrbebida no food, if it is within the Sheraton, ysespectculo live, gifts and raffles. I hope your comments, and that the meeting can Prxima participate. Best regards Alberto Soto --- Avast antivirus software has analyzed this e-mail for viruses. http://www.avast.com [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/93b0c0071a.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ??? Q = utf-8 Nominaci = C3 = C3 = B3n_de B3n_a_la_posici = _ = = utf-8 ALAC-_Nominacion_anotada_en_WIKI q = ?????
by alyne.ibdi＠gmail.com May 9, 2015

May 9, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: ??? Q = utf-8 Nominaci = C3 = C3 = B3n_de B3n_a_la_posici = _ = = utf-8 ALAC-_Nominacion_anotada_en_WIKI q = ????? From: alyne.ibdi(a)gmail.com The IBDI supports the nomination Lance Hinds. Regards, Alyne Andrade. 05/08/2015 20:09 GMT-03: 00 <amedinagomez(a)gmail.com> : > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re:??? Q = utf-8 Nominaci = C3 = C3 = B3n_de B3n_a_la_posici = _ > = = utf-8 ALAC-_Nominacion_anotada_en_WIKI q =????? > From: amedinagomez(a)gmail.com > > The Colombian Association of Internet Users, ACUI supports the nomination > Lance Hinds of the ALAC. > > > With attentive and special greetings, > > > The May 8, 2015, 12:34 Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> > He wrote: > > > > Estimado Jose, > > > > Su nominación a Lance Hinds ha sido anotada en la página wiki. > > > > El apoyo de varios miembros de LACRALO a dicha nominación ha sido anotado > > también. > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2015+LACRALO+Regional+Selection > > > > Muchas gracias > > Saludos cordiales, > > > > Silvia > > > > > > Silvia Vivanco > > Manager, At Large Regional Affairs > > ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers > > www.icann.org > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: > > lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of > > josefranciscoarce(a)gmail.com > > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 7:07 PM > > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: Nominación a la posición de ALAC > > > > > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > > > Asunto: Nominación a la posición de ALAC > > Desde: josefranciscoarce(a)gmail.com > > > > Queridos Todos, > > > > > > Me gustaría nominar a Lance Hinds de Devnet al ALAC > > > > > > Lanza Hinds es una fundación y signatario original del LACRALO memorando > > de entendimiento con ICANN. Él está bien versado en las cuestiones que > > afectan a los usuarios normales de Internet en un menor economía > > desarrollada y que tiene en los últimos años continuaron haciendo su > > contribuciones a la formulación de políticas de ICANN. > > Aunque yo era presidente de Lance tuvo una gran actuación en muchas > > actividades de LACRALO. > > > > > > José > > > > > > > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/26167d14b2.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ??? Q = utf-8 Nominaci = C3 = C3 = B3n_de B3n_a_la_posici = _ = = utf-8 ALAC-_Nominacion_anotada_en_WIKI q =?????
by amedinagomez＠gmail.com May 9, 2015

May 9, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:??? Q = utf-8 Nominaci = C3 = C3 = B3n_de B3n_a_la_posici = _ = = utf-8 ALAC-_Nominacion_anotada_en_WIKI q =????? From: amedinagomez(a)gmail.com The Colombian Association of Internet Users, ACUI supports the nomination Lance Hinds of the ALAC. With attentive and special greetings, The May 8, 2015, 12:34 Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org> He wrote: > Estimado Jose, > > Su nominación a Lance Hinds ha sido anotada en la página wiki. > > El apoyo de varios miembros de LACRALO a dicha nominación ha sido anotado > también. > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2015+LACRALO+Regional+Selection > > Muchas gracias > Saludos cordiales, > > Silvia > > > Silvia Vivanco > Manager, At Large Regional Affairs > ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers > www.icann.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: > lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of > josefranciscoarce(a)gmail.com > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 7:07 PM > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Nominación a la posición de ALAC > > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > Asunto: Nominación a la posición de ALAC > Desde: josefranciscoarce(a)gmail.com > > Queridos Todos, > > > Me gustaría nominar a Lance Hinds de Devnet al ALAC > > > Lanza Hinds es una fundación y signatario original del LACRALO memorando > de entendimiento con ICANN. Él está bien versado en las cuestiones que > afectan a los usuarios normales de Internet en un menor economía > desarrollada y que tiene en los últimos años continuaron haciendo su > contribuciones a la formulación de políticas de ICANN. > Aunque yo era presidente de Lance tuvo una gran actuación en muchas > actividades de LACRALO. > > > José > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/c11751662b.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Nomination to the ALAC position - SOI and EOI
by Silvia Vivanco May 8, 2015

May 8, 2015

Dear Lance, As part of the election process, you are required to submit a brief statement explaining why you believe that you are a suitable candidate for the LACRALO ALAC member position (Expression of Interest- EOI). Could you kindly confirm whether the message below is your statement? If not, kindly send me your statement and I will post it on the election wiki workspace. In addition, please update this wiki page with your Statement of Interest (SOI): https://community.icann.org/x/2Ic0Aw Thank you! Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, At Large Regional Affairs ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/> From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Silvia Vivanco Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 4:38 PM To: Lance Hinds; José Francisco Arce Cc: LACRALO discussion list Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Nomination to the ALAC position - your Acceptance noted Dear Lance, Your acceptance has been noted on the wiki. See: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2015+LACRALO+Regional+Selection Thank you very much! Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, At Large Regional Affairs ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/> From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> [mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Lance Hinds Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 4:24 PM To: José Francisco Arce Cc: LACRALO discussion list Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Nomination to the ALAC position Dear Jose, Let me thank you most sincerely for nominating me as LACRALO's ALAC representative and also thank all of you who indicated their support for my nomination. LACRALO is a critical member of the ICANN ecosystem because it represents a constituency that by and large resides in lesser developed economies of the region. It means therefore that our participation in the internet space at the policy level is critical to the technical and socio-economic development that is so badly needed in our region at this time. If elected, I will continue to articulate LACRALO's interest in these matters and help shape the strategies necessary to ensure that the internet remains accessible, educational and general constructive for the needs of the average internet user. Once again my thanks Best regards Lance On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:06 PM, José Francisco Arce <josefranciscoarce(a)gmail.com<mailto:josefranciscoarce@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear All, I would like to nominate Lance Hinds from Devnet to the ALAC Lance Hinds is a foundation and original signer of the LACRALO MOU with ICANN. He is well versed on issues impacting ordinary internet users in a lesser developed economy and who has over the years continued to make his contributions to ICANN's policy making. While i was chair Lance had a great performance in many LACRALO activities. José _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en -- Lance Hinds Chief Technology Officer BrainStreet Group 287 'C' Albert St. Georgetown Guyana This message contains information that may be privileged and/or confidential and is the property of BrainStreet Technologies or BrainStreet Learning. The information contained herein is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it . If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or take any action in reliance to the contents of this information or any part thereof and it may be unlawful to do so. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message from your system. BrainStreet Technologies or BrainStreet Learning are neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor any delay in its receipt.

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Nomination to the ALAC position - your Acceptance noted
by Silvia Vivanco May 8, 2015

May 8, 2015

Dear Lance, Your acceptance has been noted on the wiki. See: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2015+LACRALO+Regional+Selection Thank you very much! Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, At Large Regional Affairs ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/> From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Lance Hinds Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 4:24 PM To: José Francisco Arce Cc: LACRALO discussion list Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Nomination to the ALAC position Dear Jose, Let me thank you most sincerely for nominating me as LACRALO's ALAC representative and also thank all of you who indicated their support for my nomination. LACRALO is a critical member of the ICANN ecosystem because it represents a constituency that by and large resides in lesser developed economies of the region. It means therefore that our participation in the internet space at the policy level is critical to the technical and socio-economic development that is so badly needed in our region at this time. If elected, I will continue to articulate LACRALO's interest in these matters and help shape the strategies necessary to ensure that the internet remains accessible, educational and general constructive for the needs of the average internet user. Once again my thanks Best regards Lance On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:06 PM, José Francisco Arce <josefranciscoarce(a)gmail.com<mailto:josefranciscoarce@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear All, I would like to nominate Lance Hinds from Devnet to the ALAC Lance Hinds is a foundation and original signer of the LACRALO MOU with ICANN. He is well versed on issues impacting ordinary internet users in a lesser developed economy and who has over the years continued to make his contributions to ICANN's policy making. While i was chair Lance had a great performance in many LACRALO activities. José _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en -- Lance Hinds Chief Technology Officer BrainStreet Group 287 'C' Albert St. Georgetown Guyana This message contains information that may be privileged and/or confidential and is the property of BrainStreet Technologies or BrainStreet Learning. The information contained herein is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it . If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or take any action in reliance to the contents of this information or any part thereof and it may be unlawful to do so. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message from your system. BrainStreet Technologies or BrainStreet Learning are neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor any delay in its receipt.

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Nomination to the ALAC position
by José Francisco Arce May 8, 2015

May 8, 2015

Dear All, I would like to nominate Lance Hinds from Devnet to the ALAC Lance Hinds is a foundation and original signer of the LACRALO MOU with ICANN. He is well versed on issues impacting ordinary internet users in a lesser developed economy and who has over the years continued to make his contributions to ICANN's policy making. While i was chair Lance had a great performance in many LACRALO activities. José

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ??? Q = iso-8859-1 F3n_de_A Nominaci = F3n_a_la_posici = = = iso-8859-1 LAC-_Nominacion_anotada_en_WIKI q =?????
by silvia.vivanco＠icann.org May 8, 2015

May 8, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:??? Q = iso-8859-1 F3n_de_A Nominaci = F3n_a_la_posici = = = iso-8859-1 LAC-_Nominacion_anotada_en_WIKI q =????? From: silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org Dear Jose, Your nominacina Lance Hinds has been listed on the wiki page. The support of several members of LACRALO to this nomination has also been noted. https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2015+LACRALO+Regional+Selection Thank you very much Best regards, Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs ICANN | Internet Corporationfor Assigned Names and Numbers www.icann.org ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of josefranciscoarce(a)gmail.com Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 7:07 PM A: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Nominacina the position of ALAC [[Translated text (en -> en) -]] Subject: Nominacina the position of ALAC From: josefranciscoarce(a)gmail.com Dear All, I would like to nominate Lance Hinds DEVNET the ALAC Lance Hinds is an original signatory of the LACRALO fundaciny MOU with ICANN. l estbien versed in the issues that affect ordinary users in less developed economy and has in recent years continued to make its contribution to the formulation of policies of ICANN. While I was president of Lance he had a great actuacin in many activities of LACRALO. Jos [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/aaaee60983.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ALS data
by tomas.enrique.cardozo.baudry＠gmail.com May 6, 2015

May 6, 2015

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: ALS data From: tomas.enrique.cardozo.baudry(a)gmail.com Paraguay TEDIC logo was updated recently [Image: Images integrated 1] 05.06.2015 22:15 GMT + 00: 00 <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> : > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > Asunto: Re: ALS datos > Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > > Tomó nota y en buen estado. > > > -Carlton > > > > > ============================== > Carlton Un Samuels > Móvil: 876-818-1799 > * Estrategia, Planeación, Gobierno, Evaluación y plazos de entrega * > ============================= > > > El Miércoles 6 de mayo de 2015 a 24:04, Humberto Carrasco < > hcarrascob(a)gmail.com> > escribió: > > > > Dear all, > > > > Can you verify that the data related to your ALS are updated? > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/LACRALO+ALSes > > > > > > > > > > If they are not correct, please send an email to staff requesting the > > update. > > > > Regards > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-en mailing list > > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > > > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/d3ee5dd8bc.html --]]

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