February 2019 - lac-discuss-en

REMINDER / Meeting Invitation: LACRALO Monthly Call on Monday, 18 February 2019 at 23:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Feb. 18, 2019

Feb. 18, 2019

If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<file:///composeviewinternalloadurl/staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number. Please remember that it is now possible to connect your audio via the AC room, without using your telephone. You need a stable internet connection. If you would like a reminder of how to connect please let staff know. Si necesita una llamada a su telefono, por favor póngase en contacto con el personal de At-Large en staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<file:///composeviewinternalloadurl/staff@atlarge.icann.org> con su número preferido. Por favor, recuerde que es posible conectar el audio a través de la Adobe Connect, sin necesidad de utilizar su teléfono. Se necesita una conexión a Internet estable. Si desea un recordatorio de cómo conectar por favor que el personal sepa. Si vous avez besoin d'un dial-out, merci de le communiquer au personnel At-Large à staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> avec votre numéro d'appel préféré. Nous vous rappelons que vous pouvez désormais utiliser l'audio de l'Adobe Connect room afin de vous connecter sans utiliser votre ligne téléphonique. Il vous faut une connexion internet stable. Merci de nous confirmer votre participation et dial-out - si nécessaire - ainsi que votre numéro à: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<file:///composeviewinternalloadurl/staff@atlarge.icann.org> Se você precisar de uma chamada para o seu telefone, por favor, entre em contato com o At-Large em staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> com o seu número preferido. Por favor, lembre-se que você pode conectar o áudio através do Adobe Connect, sem usar o telefone. É necessária conexão de internet estável. Se você quer um lembrete de como se conectar por favor, deixe o pessoal sabe. Dear All, The next LACRALO Monthly Call is scheduled for Monday, 18 February 2019 at 23:00 UTC. Spanish, French and Portuguese interpretations will be provided. For other times: https://tinyurl.com/yadug3k5 The agenda and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/OJsWBg Wiki workspace: https://community.icann.org/x/NJQi ADIGO Conference Bridge: English Conference ID = 1638 Spanish Conference ID = 1738 Portuguese Conference ID = 5393 French Conference ID = 1838 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: http://adigo.com/icann/[adigo.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__adigo.com_icann_&d=DwMG…> Adobe Connect Room: https://participate.icann.org/lacralo/ Thank you. Kind Regards, ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<applewebdata://0E834633-16E8-43B3-A2E8-7E1203571239/staff@atlarge.icann.org> Website: atlarge.icann.org<applewebdata://0E834633-16E8-43B3-A2E8-7E1203571239/atlarge.icann.org> Facebook: facebook.com/icannatlarge<applewebdata://0E834633-16E8-43B3-A2E8-7E1203571239/facebook.com/icannatlar…> Twitter: @ICANNAtLarge<applewebdata://0E834633-16E8-43B3-A2E8-7E1203571239/@ICANNAtLarge>

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Meeting Invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 20 February 2019 at 21:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Feb. 15, 2019

Feb. 15, 2019

If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<file:///composeviewinternalloadurl/staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number. Please remember that it is now possible to connect your audio via the AC room, without using your telephone. You need a stable internet connection. If you would like a reminder of how to connect please let staff know. Si necesita una llamada a su telefono, por favor póngase en contacto con el personal de At-Large en staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<file:///composeviewinternalloadurl/staff@atlarge.icann.org> con su número preferido. Por favor, recuerde que es posible conectar el audio a través de la Adobe Connect, sin necesidad de utilizar su teléfono. Se necesita una conexión a Internet estable. Si desea un recordatorio de cómo conectar por favor que el personal sepa. Por favor note que esta llamada tendra interpretación en ES. Please note this call will have ES interpretation. Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call is scheduled for Wednesday, 20 February 2019 at 21:00 UTC for 90 mins. For other times: http://tinyurl.com/yyylfzho The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/Jok2Bg AC Room: https://participate.icann.org/cpwg/ ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN: 1638 ES: 1738 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: https://www.adigo.com/icann At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Posición de LACRALO
by Alejandro Acosta Feb. 15, 2019

Feb. 15, 2019

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] [[--This message had format issues and was not translated properly--]] Subject:Re: Posición de LACRALO Desde:Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com> Hello Harold, thanks for your mail, My first request: Add the following text (or almost the same, I'm not a lawyer) to MoU ICANN <-> LACRALO: " [...] LACRALO aims to: [....] 4. represent user's interests and defining public interest aspects of Internet governance with specific focus on the areas of: i. Privacy ii. Free Speech iii. net neutrality iv.open access Memorandum of Understanding Between ICANN and the Founders in the African Region Page 2 v. transparency vi. accountability " That is, the same text that appears in point 1.A.4 (pages 1-2) of the MoU between ICANN and AFLRALO [1] Thank you, Alexander, [one]https://archive.icann.org/en/announcements/afralo-mou-en.pdf On 2/15/19 at 2:45 PM, Harold Arcos wrote: Good evening Alejandro Again in this way I reiterate that there is no limit to request an initiative or request a consultation proposed by you or any regional member. In this recent mail do you present some ideas of a possible study or consultation? Please let us know specifically what you would like to promote and we will begin the corresponding procedures. Some of your proposals I think would be perfectly inserted in some of the studies we have proposed to do among some ALS and that we hope to expand within the regional working groups that are starting activities. In my personal opinion it would be great to do them. I remain attentive to your requests or comments. regards On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 1:11 AM Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Tocayo, You have no idea how much I appreciate your comments. Unfortunately in this email I will not point to anyone specifically. I would like to mention (in the same context of ideas), that I received communications from several people who in private showed some possibility of at least one letter or mention by some ALS or with much luck of LACRALO, I hope so. I take the opportunity to indicate that despite having many years in the middle (> two decades) I consider myself quite new in this world of LACRALO. However, I am no stranger to his work and I have always felt a deep respect for several of my friends who have passed through here. Today a person from ICANN sent an email to another list and it had written -among other things- "to help guarantee a global, unified, stable and secure Internet". In my super humble opinion I feel that LACRALO does not follow these words.Ojo, I do not want to criticize the current chair or any, not least the previous ones, I even put myself in this bag too ..., I just feel that something can be done and that our duty is to do it. What can be done?. 1) Identify countries, cities, people where the Internet is not free, unified, secure, etc., etc. 2) The same of countries "that break" Internet, DNS, etc., etc. 3) Countries that do not comply with a, b, c, d of cybersecurity 4) Much more aha, they identified then what? ..., contact, teach, move with them, converse, TAKE a position, offer a hand, etc., etc. I am going to extend myself a little more .., eye, once again I recognize that I have very little experience in LACRALO, what I am going to say is not necessarily "achievable" - LACRALO probably wants to discuss technical topics but they focus on the political (I talk about the politically correct and / or get involved) - When it's not something political you want to take to the economic (my thinking reviewing the history of the list .., I reviewed hundreds of messages) What I feel with the last two points is that they place a giant stone to advance in some points. Gentlemen, what LACRALO does (and does not do) has a VERY big impact on the Internet of Latam. The only thing that we are all looking for is a better Internet in each country of our region, Regards, Alexander, P.S. Finally, regarding the involvement of the workplace of one of our representatives, I dare not say anything at this time. On 2/14/19 at 20:26, Alejandro Pisanty wrote: Dear Alejandro Acosta, I see as surely as you do, with sadness, the silence that has followed our communications. A review of the forensic analysis of the DNS phishing and redirecting incident that we are discussing, and that has been widely published, indicates that the workplace of one of our regional representatives is directly involved in the operation. This requires, at least, a clarification, given that the event has given rise to very strong complaints from users in the country in question. It would be difficult to consider them represented in these terms. Alejandro Pisanty On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:12 PM Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan(a)unam.mx> wrote: Dear Alejandro Acosta, I agree in general with the position of Vanda in that it is not appropriate that as LACRALO or ICANN we express ourselves regarding a phishing incident, although the one in question is an incident that is not aimed at causing patrimonial damage (In that case it would be a crime and not a political act).Where I think we should deepen is in the fact that we report an incident that manipulates the resolution of names in the DNS at the level of a ccTLD or an operator very close to it, that is, with the potential to affect all users Internet of a country in its rights. This would be even more important insofar as the organization that carried out this activity had representatives in our community, who would have to explain the aforementioned measures in terms compatible with their role as representatives of the users.This possibility underscores the importance of ALSs and their representatives declaring their interests in relation to actors other than users, such as ISPs and ccTLD operators and other registries. Alejandro Pisanty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty School of Chemistry UNAM Av.Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 FROM MEXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http: // www. isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es [lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Alejandro Acosta [alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:03 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Position of LACRALO Gentlemen, A query: even when LACRALO is going to turn a blind eye (understand ignoring) Web page locks, URLs, DNS and a thousand other things that happen in our region every day. Be careful, I'm not saying that LACRALO has to fix the problem but take a position. And before they tell me that it is not something related to DNS, IF there is a lot of DNS included in all this. By the way, remember the slogan: "One world, one Internet" Greetings, Alejandro, _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org / mailman / listinfo / lac-discuss-en http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https: //atlarge-lists.icann. org / mailman / listinfo / lac-discuss-en http://www.lacralo.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty School of Chemistry UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 FROM MEXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog:http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .LinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http: // www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn,http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Twitter:http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico,http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http: //www.lacralo. org [[--Original text (es) Translated by transbot 2.18-2.04 http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/8a8c5ce2c4.html --]]

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CALL STARTS IN 15 MINUTES / Meeting Invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Friday, 15 February 2019 at 19:00 UTC
by Andrea Glandon Feb. 15, 2019

Feb. 15, 2019

If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<file:///composeviewinternalloadurl/staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number. Please remember that it is now possible to connect your audio via the AC room, without using your telephone. You need a stable internet connection. If you would like a reminder of how to connect please let staff know. Si necesita una llamada a su telefono, por favor póngase en contacto con el personal de At-Large en staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<file:///composeviewinternalloadurl/staff@atlarge.icann.org> con su número preferido. Por favor, recuerde que es posible conectar el audio a través de la Adobe Connect, sin necesidad de utilizar su teléfono. Se necesita una conexión a Internet estable. Si desea un recordatorio de cómo conectar por favor que el personal sepa. Por favor note que esta llamada tendra interpretación en ES. Please note this call will have ES interpretation. Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call is scheduled for Friday, 15 February 2019 at 19:00 UTC for 90 mins. For other times: https://tinyurl.com/y5ykfw9f The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/b4Y2Bg AC Room: https://participate.icann.org/cpwg/ ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN: 1638 ES: 1738 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: https://www.adigo.com/icann At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Posición de LACRALO
by Alejandro Acosta Feb. 15, 2019

Feb. 15, 2019

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] [[--This message had format issues and was not translated properly--]] Subject:Re: Posición de LACRALO Desde:Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com> Hello Harold, thank you very much for your email, Can I write? ..., I'm afraid they'll tell me that since I'm not a "boss" I can not say anything ... well, I'm going to take the risk because you wrote directly to me. I will go in parts: one) What do I want ?, that LACRALO make a manifestation and take a position in terms of the search for an Internet, free, without blockages, that is: One world one Internet 2) Thanks for the ICANN status, in fact I know them pretty well. 3) Regarding the MoU, I was referring to the one signed by AFRALO (I do not know if APRALO also has it), it explicitly indicates "4. represent user's interests and defining public interest aspects of Internet governance with specific focus on the areas of: I. Privacy ii. Free Speech iii. Net neutrality iv.open access Memorandum of Understanding Between ICANN and the Founders in the African Region Page 2 v. transparency vi. accountability " Please emphasize the words: "with specific focus" As you know, it is also a document signed by ICANN, so it has an important precedent. It would be great to add those words to the MoU LACRALO <---> ICANN You can get the AFRALO MoU with ICANN in:https://archive.icann.org/en/announcements/afralo-mou-en.pdf Or does ICANN only support these things in other parts of the world and not in LAC? I understand that for the previous thing it is possible to take a vote of the people / ALSs, correct ?.That is, I request a motion from points 1 and 3 expressed above. Thank you, Alexander, On 2/15/19 at 1:58 PM, Harold Arcos wrote: Good evening Alejandro According to those expressed in your recent email, understanding that it is an expression of the thread of conversation initiated in the LACRALO Whatsapp chat, I ask you if you want to initiate a process leading to a Regional Declaration? or some other similar initiative within our region, perhaps among the group of ALSs that we make life within LACRALO? As in previous opportunities and more recently via telephone, I share my opinion again, in which I consider that the ICANN Statutes are clear in their scope and there is no way to express themselves about content issues that run about the infrastructure of ICANN. Internet. Before continuing, I share only one fragment below: ARTICLE 1 MISSION, COMMITMENTS AND FUNDAMENTAL VALUES. Section 1.1.MISSION (a) The mission of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers ("ICANN") is to ensure the stable and secure operation of the Internet's unique identifier systems as described in this Section 1.1 (a) (the "Mission") ). Specifically, ICANN: (i) Coordinates the assignment and assignment of names in the root zone of the Domain Name System ("DNS") and coordinates the development and implementation of policies related to the registration of second-level domain names in generic level domains superior ("gTLD"). ").In this role, the scope of ICANN is to coordinate the development and implementation of policies: For what uniform or coordinated resolution is reasonably necessary to facilitate the openness, interoperability, resilience, security and / or stability of the DNS, including, with respect to registrars and gTLD registries, policies in the areas described in the Annex G-1 and Annex G-2; Y They are developed through a multi-stakeholder process based on consensus and are designed to ensure the stable and secure operation of the Internet's unique name systems. The issues, policies, procedures and principles addressed in Annex G-1 and Annex G-2 with respect to gTLD registrars and registries will be considered within the ICANN Mission. (ii) It facilitates the coordination of the operation and the evolution of the DNS root name server system. (iii) Coordinates the assignment and assignment at the highest level of Internet Protocol numbers and Autonomous System numbers.At the service of its Mission, ICANN (A) provides registration and open access services for global number registrations as requested by the Internet Engineering Task Force ("IETF") and the Regional Internet Registries ("RIRs") and (B) facilitate the development of policies for the registration of global numbers by the affected community and other related tasks as agreed with the RIRs. (iv) Collaborate with other agencies as appropriate to provide the necessary records for the operation of the Internet as specified by the Internet protocol standards development organizations.At the service of its Mission, the scope of ICANN is to provide registration and open access services for records in the public domain requested by Internet protocol development organizations. (b) ICANN will not act outside of its Mission. (c) ICANN must not regulate (that is, impose rules and restrictions) on services that use the unique identifiers of the Internet or the content that such services carry or provide, outside the express scope of Section 1.1 (a). To avoid doubts, ICANN does not have any regulatory authority authorized by the government. On the other hand, when you shared the segments of the MoU (Memorandum of Understanding) of APRALO where the words Internet free also appear, without restrictions. I consider it very interesting that ICANN has signed an MoU with those expressions, so if you want to alert of these details or initiate a consultation procedure I am also in order for the respective offices, for that we are the Secretaries. Like any member of the ALSs that belong to LACRALO, you can request any support or diligence that you consider pertinent. Finally, I thank you for the time we were doing the previous consultations with other regional members and the Staff. regards On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:04 PM Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com> wrote: Sirs, A query: even when LACRALO is going to turn a blind eye (understand ignoring) Web page locks, URLs, DNS and a thousand other things that happen in our region every day. Be careful, I'm not saying that LACRALO has to fix the problem but take a position. And before they tell me that it is not something related to DNS, IF there is a lot of DNS included in all this. By the way, let's remember the slogan: "One world.An Internet "Greetings, Alejandro, _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http : //www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) Translated by transbot 2.18-2.04 http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/c4653ddb2b.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Posición de LACRALO
by Sergio Bronstein Feb. 15, 2019

Feb. 15, 2019

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] [[--This message had format issues and was not translated properly--]] Subject:Re: Posición de LACRALO Desde:Sergio Bronstein <bronstein.sergio(a)gmail.com> Hi Ricardo How good would it be: 1. That you prove that Cantv is blocking 2. That you denounce the systematic elimination of accounts related to the Venezuelan government in social networks (RRSS) 3. That you denounce those who incite violence through the RRSS, a crime contemplated in local legislation on social media, including electronic media 4.That you join the complaints, increasingly frequent and scandalous, of illegal use of data However, if I consider a debate that addresses the convergence of telecommunications and the media, since the telcos have local regulations and the influence of the contents circulating on the Internet is increasing without standards that impact them. I do not know if these are themes of Lacralo, but I'm sure that as associations of users we should address them. Lastly, I am still working in the state telecommunications company but I no longer occupy managerial positions.In fact, with Pisanty we talked in London about the incompatibility, I made a commitment with him to resign and, as you know, who presides Internauta Venezuela is Harold Arcos. Hugs for everyone, Sergio Bronstein On Fri, 2/15/2019 1:04 PM, Ricardo Holmquist <rihogris(a)gmail.com> wrote: Dear Alberto, I believe that asking Harold Arcos to pronounce himself, because he lives in Venezuela, is to disqualify the work of those in Venezuela, including Alejandro Acosta, and who is Director of ISOC Venezuela. To put in context what is happening now, the main ISP of Venezuela (with more than 70% of the fixed connections, and 40% of the mobile connections) is blocking the different platforms of social networks at the time of issuance of any message from opposition spokespersons, being in Venezuela this is virtually the only way to broadcast a message, since television, radio and newspapers are already prohibited from giving voice to opposition spokespersons. This blockage is done through DNS locks, affecting its operation. There are serious studies of what is happening. Last week the opposition launched a volunteer platform, the aforementioned ISP took an additional step, and redirected the DNS of the volunteer platform, twice, to two different sites, committing several crimes under Venezuelan law. Among them phising and DNS spoofing. Crimes both condemned worldwide and included in the Budapest Convention, (of which Venezuela unfortunately is not a signatory). This ISP is owned by the government of Venezuela. The previous representative (and even a member) of Internauta Venezuela is (or was) a manager of this company. Up to now, worldwide, we considered phising as a cyber crime, where we have dealt as individuals and as institutions to warn users of this practice, since it is generally carried out to commit crimes, especially financial ones. Our concern is that it is the Government, through one of its companies, that is carrying out these crimes. Who defends the user? The least we expect from LACRALO is a communiqué condemning the crimes of DNS spoofing (and any type of cyber crimes), since they threaten the stability of the network. regards Ricardo Holmquist Fri., Feb. 15 2019 at 16:33, Alberto Soto ( <alberto(a)soto.net.ar> ) wrote: Well, I'd like to hear from Harold Arcos, who lives there and is our representative. Best regards Alberto Soto On February 15, 2019, at 2:11 am, Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Tocayo, You have no idea how much I appreciate your comments. Unfortunately in this email I will not point to anyone specifically. I would like to mention (in the same context of ideas), that I received communications from several people who in private showed some possibility of at least one letter or mention by some ALS or with much luck of LACRALO, I hope so. I take the opportunity to indicate that despite having many years in the middle (> two decades) I consider myself quite new in this world of LACRALO. However, I am no stranger to his work and I have always felt a deep respect for several of my friends who have passed through here. Today a person from ICANN sent an email to another list and it had written -among other things- "to help guarantee a global, unified, stable and secure Internet". In my super humble opinion I feel that LACRALO does not follow these words. Ojo, I do not want to criticize the current chair or any, not least the previous ones, I even put myself in this bag too ..., I just feel that something can be done and that our duty is to do it. What can be done?. 1) Identify countries, cities, people where the Internet is not free, unified, secure, etc., etc. 2) The same of countries "that break" Internet, DNS, etc., etc. 3) Countries that do not comply with a, b, c, d of cybersecurity 4) Much more aha, they identified then what? ..., contact, teach, move with them, converse, TAKE a position, offer a hand, etc., etc. I am going to extend myself a little more .., eye, once again I recognize that I have very little experience in LACRALO, what I am going to say is not necessarily "achievable" - LACRALO probably wants to discuss technical topics but they focus on the political (I talk about the politically correct and / or get involved) - When it's not something political you want to take to the economic (my thinking reviewing the history of the list .., I reviewed hundreds of messages) What I feel with the last two points is that they place a giant stone to advance in some points. Gentlemen, what LACRALO does (and does not do) has a VERY big impact on the Internet of Latam. The only thing that we are all looking for is a better Internet in each country of our region, Regards, Alexander, PS Finally, regarding the involvement of the workplace of one of our representatives, I dare not say anything at this time. On 2/14/19 at 20:26, Alejandro Pisanty wrote: Dear Alejandro Acosta, I see as surely as you do, with sadness, the silence that has followed our communications. A review of the forensic analysis of the DNS phishing and redirecting incident that we are discussing, and that has been widely published, indicates that the workplace of one of our regional representatives is directly involved in the operation. This requires, at least, a clarification, given that the event has given rise to very strong complaints from users in the country in question. It would be difficult to consider them represented in these terms. Alejandro Pisanty On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:12 PM Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan(a)unam.mx> wrote: Dear Alejandro Acosta, I agree in general with the position of Vanda in that it is not appropriate that as LACRALO or ICANN we express ourselves regarding a phishing incident, although the one in question is an incident that is not aimed at causing patrimonial damage (In that case it would be a crime and not a political act).Where I think we should deepen is in the fact that we report an incident that manipulates the resolution of names in the DNS at the level of a ccTLD or an operator very close to it, that is, with the potential to affect all users Internet of a country in its rights. This would be even more important insofar as the organization that carried out this activity had representatives in our community, who would have to explain the aforementioned measures in terms compatible with their role as representatives of the users.This possibility underscores the importance of ALSs and their representatives declaring their interests in relation to actors other than users, such as ISPs and ccTLD operators and other registries. Alejandro Pisanty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Faculty of Chemistry UNAM Av.Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 FROM MEXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http: // www. isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es [lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Alejandro Acosta [alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:03 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Position of LACRALO Gentlemen, One query: even when LACRALO is going to turn a blind eye (understand ignoring) Web page locks, URLs, DNS and a thousand other things that happen in our region every day. Be careful, I'm not saying that LACRALO has to fix the problem but take a position.And before they tell me that it is not something related to DNS, IF there is a lot of DNS included in all this. By the way, remember the slogan: "One world, one Internet" Greetings, Alejandro, _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org / mailman / listinfo / lac-discuss-en http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https: //atlarge-lists.icann. org / mailman / listinfo / lac-discuss-en http://www.lacralo.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty College of Chemistry UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 FROM MEXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog:http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http: // www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, htt p://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http: //www.lacralo. org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.orghttps://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http: //www.lacralo. org [[--Original text (es) Translated by transbot 2.18-2.04 http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/c6dcd98130.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Posición de LACRALO
by Alejandro Acosta Feb. 15, 2019

Feb. 15, 2019

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] [[--This message had format issues and was not translated properly--]] Subject:Re: Posición de LACRALO Desde:Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com> Hello, Consult, can you request a motion from LACRALO ?, a vote? Thank you, Alexander, On 2/15/19 at 13:04, Ricardo Holmquist wrote: Dear Alberto, I believe that asking Harold Arcos to pronounce himself, because he lives in Venezuela, is to disqualify the work of those in Venezuela, including Alejandro Acosta, and who is Director of ISOC Venezuela. To put in context what is happening now, the main ISP of Venezuela (with more than 70% of the fixed connections, and 40% of the mobile connections) is blocking the different platforms of social networks at the time of issuance of any message from opposition spokespersons, being in Venezuela this is virtually the only way to broadcast a message, since television, radio and newspapers are already prohibited from giving voice to opposition spokespersons. This blockage is done through DNS locks, affecting its operation. There are serious studies of what is happening. Last week the opposition launched a volunteer platform, the aforementioned ISP took an additional step, and redirected the DNS of the volunteer platform, twice, to two different sites, committing several crimes under Venezuelan law. Among them phising and DNS spoofing. Crimes both condemned worldwide and included in the Budapest Convention, (of which Venezuela unfortunately is not a signatory). This ISP is owned by the government of Venezuela. The previous representative (and even a member) of Internauta Venezuela is (or was) a manager of this company. Up to now, worldwide, we considered phising as a cyber crime, where we have dealt as individuals and as institutions to warn users of this practice, since it is generally carried out to commit crimes, especially financial ones. Our concern is that it is the Government, through one of its companies, that is carrying out these crimes. Who defends the user? The least we expect from LACRALO is a communiqué condemning the crimes of DNS spoofing (and any type of cyber crimes), since they threaten the stability of the network. regards Ricardo Holmquist Fri., Feb. 15 2019 at 16:33, Alberto Soto ( <alberto(a)soto.net.ar> ) wrote: Well, I'd like to hear from Harold Arcos, who lives there and is our representative. Best regards Alberto Soto On February 15, 2019, at 2:11 am, Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Tocayo, You have no idea how much I appreciate your comments. Unfortunately in this email I will not point to anyone specifically. I would like to mention (in the same context of ideas), that I received communications from several people who in private showed some possibility of at least one letter or mention by some ALS or with much luck of LACRALO, I hope so. I take the opportunity to indicate that despite having many years in the middle (> two decades) I consider myself quite new in this world of LACRALO. However, I am no stranger to his work and I have always felt a deep respect for several of my friends who have passed through here. Today a person from ICANN sent an email to another list and it had written -among other things- "to help guarantee a global, unified, stable and secure Internet". In my super humble opinion I feel that LACRALO does not follow these words. Ojo, I do not want to criticize the current chair or any, not least the previous ones, I even put myself in this bag too ..., I just feel that something can be done and that our duty is to do it. What can be done?. 1) Identify countries, cities, people where the Internet is not free, unified, secure, etc., etc. 2) The same of countries "that break" Internet, DNS, etc., etc. 3) Countries that do not comply with a, b, c, d of cybersecurity 4) Much more aha, they identified then what? ..., contact, teach, move with them, converse, TAKE a position, offer a hand, etc., etc. I am going to extend myself a little more .., eye, once again I recognize that I have very little experience in LACRALO, what I am going to say is not necessarily "achievable" - LACRALO probably wants to discuss technical topics but they focus on the political (I talk about the politically correct and / or get involved) - When it's not something political you want to take to the economic (my thinking reviewing the history of the list .., I reviewed hundreds of messages) What I feel with the last two points is that they place a giant stone to advance in some points. Gentlemen, what LACRALO does (and does not do) has a VERY big impact on the Internet of Latam.The only thing that we are all looking for is a better Internet in each country of our region, Regards, Alexander, P.S. Finally, regarding the involvement of the workplace of one of our representatives, I dare not say anything at this time. On 2/14/19 at 20:26, Alejandro Pisanty wrote: Dear Alejandro Acosta, I see as surely as you do, with sadness, the silence that has followed our communications. A review of the forensic analysis of the DNS phishing and redirecting incident that we are discussing, and that has been widely published, indicates that the workplace of one of our regional representatives is directly involved in the operation. This requires, at least, a clarification, given that the event has given rise to very strong complaints from users in the country in question. It would be difficult to consider them represented in these terms. Alejandro Pisanty On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:12 PM Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan(a)unam.mx> wrote: Dear Alejandro Acosta, I agree in general with the position of Vanda in that it is not appropriate that as LACRALO or ICANN we express ourselves regarding a phishing incident, although the one in question is an incident that is not aimed at causing patrimonial damage (In that case it would be a crime and not a political act).Where I think we should deepen is in the fact that we report an incident that manipulates the resolution of names in the DNS at the level of a ccTLD or an operator very close to it, that is, with the potential to affect all users Internet of a country in its rights. This would be even more important insofar as the organization that carried out this activity had representatives in our community, who would have to explain the aforementioned measures in terms compatible with their role as representatives of the users.This possibility underscores the importance of ALSs and their representatives declaring their interests in relation to actors other than users, such as ISPs and ccTLD operators and other registries. Alejandro Pisanty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty School of Chemistry UNAM Av.Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 FROM MEXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http: // www. isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es [lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Alejandro Acosta [alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:03 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Position of LACRALO Gentlemen, A query: even when LACRALO is going to turn a blind eye (understand ignoring) Web page locks, URLs, DNS and a thousand other things that happen in our region every day. Be careful, I'm not saying that LACRALO has to fix the problem but take a position. And before they tell me that it is not something related to DNS, IF there is a lot of DNS included in all this. By the way, remember the slogan: "One world, one Internet" Greetings, Alejandro, _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org / mailman / listinfo / lac-discuss-en http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https: //atlarge-lists.icann. org / mailman / listinfo / lac-discuss-en http://www.lacralo.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty School of Chemistry UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 FROM MEXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog:http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .LinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http: // www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn,http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Twitter:http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico,http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http: //www.lacralo. org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http: //www.lacralo. org [[--Original text (es) Translated by transbot 2.18-2.04 http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/639e791e45.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Posición de LACRALO
by Alberto Soto Feb. 15, 2019

Feb. 15, 2019

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] [[--This message had format issues and was not translated properly--]] Subject:Re: Posición de LACRALO Desde:Alberto Soto <alberto(a)soto.net.ar> Totally agree Ricardo. But by the rules in force in Lacralo, who occupies the Secretariat, is who is in charge of communications. Greetings cordialed Alberto Soto Sent from my iPhone On Feb. 15 2019, at (s) 14:04, Ricardo Holmquist <rihogris(a)gmail.com> wrote: Dear Alberto, I believe that asking Harold Arcos to pronounce himself, because he lives in Venezuela, is to disqualify the work of those in Venezuela, including Alejandro Acosta, and who is Director of ISOC Venezuela. To put in context what is happening now, the main ISP of Venezuela (with more than 70% of the fixed connections, and 40% of the mobile connections) is blocking the different platforms of social networks at the time of issuance of any message from opposition spokespersons, being in Venezuela this is virtually the only way to broadcast a message, since television, radio and newspapers are already prohibited from giving voice to opposition spokespersons. This blockage is done through DNS locks, affecting its operation. There are serious studies of what is happening. Last week the opposition launched a volunteer platform, the aforementioned ISP took an additional step, and redirected the DNS of the volunteer platform, twice, to two different sites, committing several crimes under Venezuelan law. Among them phising and DNS spoofing. Crimes both condemned worldwide and included in the Budapest Convention, (of which Venezuela unfortunately is not a signatory). This ISP is owned by the government of Venezuela. The previous representative (and even a member) of Internauta Venezuela is (or was) a manager of this company. Up to now, worldwide, we considered phising as a cyber crime, where we have dealt as individuals and as institutions to warn users of this practice, since it is generally carried out to commit crimes, especially financial ones. Our concern is that it is the Government, through one of its companies, that is carrying out these crimes. Who defends the user? The least we expect from LACRALO is a communiqué condemning the crimes of DNS spoofing (and any type of cyber crimes), since they threaten the stability of the network. regards Ricardo Holmquist Fri., Feb. 15 2019 at 16:33, Alberto Soto ( <alberto(a)soto.net.ar> ) wrote: Well, I'd like to hear from Harold Arcos, who lives there and is our representative. Best regards Alberto Soto On February 15, 2019, at 2:11 am, Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Tocayo, You have no idea how much I appreciate your comments. Unfortunately in this email I will not point to anyone specifically. I would like to mention (in the same context of ideas), that I received communications from several people who in private showed some possibility of at least one letter or mention by some ALS or with much luck of LACRALO, I hope so. I take the opportunity to indicate that despite having many years in the middle (> two decades) I consider myself quite new in this world of LACRALO. However, I am no stranger to his work and I have always felt a deep respect for several of my friends who have passed through here. Today a person from ICANN sent an email to another list and it had written -among other things- "to help guarantee a global, unified, stable and secure Internet". In my super humble opinion I feel that LACRALO does not follow these words. Ojo, I do not want to criticize the current chair or any, not least the previous ones, I even put myself in this bag too ..., I just feel that something can be done and that our duty is to do it. What can be done?. 1) Identify countries, cities, people where the Internet is not free, unified, secure, etc., etc. 2) The same of countries "that break" Internet, DNS, etc., etc. 3) Countries that do not comply with a, b, c, d of cybersecurity 4) Much more aha, they identified then what? ..., contact, teach, move with them, converse, TAKE a position, offer a hand, etc., etc. I am going to extend myself a little more .., eye, once again I recognize that I have very little experience in LACRALO, what I am going to say is not necessarily "achievable" - LACRALO probably wants to discuss technical topics but they focus on the political (I talk about the politically correct and / or get involved) - When it's not something political you want to take to the economic (my thinking reviewing the history of the list .., I reviewed hundreds of messages) What I feel with the last two points is that they place a giant stone to advance in some points. Gentlemen, what LACRALO does (and does not do) has a VERY big impact on the Internet of Latam. The only thing that we are all looking for is a better Internet in each country of our region, Regards, Alexander, PS Finally, regarding the involvement of the workplace of one of our representatives, I dare not say anything at this time. On 2/14/19 at 20:26, Alejandro Pisanty wrote: Dear Alejandro Acosta, I see as surely as you do, with sadness, the silence that has followed our communications. A review of the forensic analysis of the DNS phishing and redirecting incident that we are discussing, and that has been widely published, indicates that the workplace of one of our regional representatives is directly involved in the operation. This requires, at least, a clarification, given that the event has given rise to very strong complaints from users in the country in question. It would be difficult to consider them represented in these terms. Alejandro Pisanty On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:12 PM Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan(a)unam.mx> wrote: Dear Alejandro Acosta, I agree in general with the position of Vanda in that it is not appropriate that as LACRALO or ICANN we express ourselves regarding a phishing incident, although the one in question is an incident that is not aimed at causing patrimonial damage (In that case it would be a crime and not a political act).Where I think we should deepen is in the fact that we report an incident that manipulates the resolution of names in the DNS at the level of a ccTLD or an operator very close to it, that is, with the potential to affect all users Internet of a country in its rights. This would be even more important insofar as the organization that carried out this activity had representatives in our community, who would have to explain the aforementioned measures in terms compatible with their role as representatives of the users.This possibility underscores the importance of ALSs and their representatives declaring their interests in relation to actors other than users, such as ISPs and ccTLD operators and other registries. Alejandro Pisanty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Faculty of Chemistry UNAM Av.Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 FROM MEXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http: // www. isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es [lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Alejandro Acosta [alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:03 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Position of LACRALO Gentlemen, One query: even when LACRALO is going to turn a blind eye (understand ignoring) Web page locks, URLs, DNS and a thousand other things that happen in our region every day. Be careful, I'm not saying that LACRALO has to fix the problem but take a position.And before they tell me that it is not something related to DNS, IF there is a lot of DNS included in all this. By the way, remember the slogan: "One world, one Internet" Greetings, Alejandro, _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org / mailman / listinfo / lac-discuss-en http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https: //atlarge-lists.icann. org / mailman / listinfo / lac-discuss-en http://www.lacralo.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty College of Chemistry UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 FROM MEXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog:http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http: // www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, htt p://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http: //www.lacralo. org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.orghttps://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) Translated by transbot 2.18-2.04 http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/e5cfbb62b8.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Posición de LACRALO
by Humberto Carrasco Feb. 15, 2019

Feb. 15, 2019

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] [[--This message had format issues and was not translated properly--]] Subject:Re: Posición de LACRALO Desde:Humberto Carrasco <hcarrasco(a)cmsz.cl> Dear Alejandro, I have tried to follow the history of emails and I would like to ask in definite what is the specific request that is wanted from LACRALO. What corresponds according to our bylaws is that a motion is presented and with it is given processing. Eventually, it can be voted on. Do you want a statement from LACRALO against the blocking of web pages, URLs, DNS in the countries of our region? OR regarding the situation of Venezuela only? I ask about the institutional course to follow the motions. Now from the individual point of view (not from LACRALO - I am not the chair or the Secretary- neither as ALAC member, nor as ALS) I have my vision regarding the problems that afflict the countries of the region and I have no problem signing the statements that seem relevant to me. Hugs Sent from my iPhone On 02-15-2019, at (13:36), Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com> wrote: I also live in Caracas, Venezuela ;-) On 2/15/19 at 11:32, Alberto Soto wrote: Well, I'd like to hear from Harold Arcos, who lives there and is our representative. Best regards Alberto Soto On February 15, 2019, at 2:11 am, Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello Tocayo, You have no idea how much I appreciate your comments. Unfortunately in this email I will not point to anyone specifically. I would like to mention (in the same context of ideas), that I received communications from several people who in private showed some possibility of at least one letter or mention by some ALS or with much luck of LACRALO, I hope so. I take the opportunity to indicate that despite having many years in the middle (> two decades) I consider myself quite new in this world of LACRALO.However, I am no stranger to his work and I have always felt a deep respect for several of my friends who have passed through here. Today a person from ICANN sent an email to another list and it had written -among other things- "to help guarantee a global, unified, stable and secure Internet". In my super humble opinion I feel that LACRALO does not follow these words. Ojo, I do not want to criticize the current chair or any, not least the previous ones, I even put myself in this bag too ..., I just feel that something can be done and that our duty is to do it. What can be done?. 1) Identify countries, cities, people where the Internet is not free, unified, secure, etc., etc. 2) The same of countries "that break" Internet, DNS, etc., etc. 3) Countries that do not comply with a, b, c, d of cybersecurity 4) Much more aha, they identified then what? ..., contact, teach, move with them, converse, TAKE a position, offer a hand, etc., etc. I am going to extend myself a little more .., eye, once again I recognize that I have very little experience in LACRALO, what I am going to say is not necessarily "achievable" - LACRALO probably wants to discuss technical topics but they focus on the political (I talk about the politically correct and / or get involved) - When it's not something political you want to take to the economic (my thinking reviewing the history of the list .., I reviewed hundreds of messages) What I feel with the last two points is that they place a giant stone to advance in some points. Gentlemen, what LACRALO does (and does not do) has a VERY big impact on the Internet of Latam.The only thing that we are all looking for is a better Internet in each country of our region, Regards, Alexander, PS Finally, regarding the involvement of the workplace of one of our representatives, I dare not say anything at this time. On 2/14/19 at 20:26, Alejandro Pisanty wrote: Dear Alejandro Acosta, I see as surely as you do, with sadness, the silence that has followed our communications. A review of the forensic analysis of the DNS phishing and redirecting incident that we are discussing, and that has been widely published, indicates that the workplace of one of our regional representatives is directly involved in the operation. This requires, at least, a clarification, given that the event has given rise to very strong complaints from users in the country in question. It would be difficult to consider them represented in these terms. Alejandro Pisanty On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:12 PM Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan(a)unam.mx> wrote: Dear Alejandro Acosta, I agree in general with the position of Vanda in that it is not appropriate that as LACRALO or ICANN we express ourselves regarding a phishing incident, although the one in question is an incident that is not aimed at causing patrimonial damage (In that case it would be a crime and not a political act).Where I think we should deepen is in the fact that we report an incident that manipulates the resolution of names in the DNS at the level of a ccTLD or an operator very close to it, that is, with the potential to affect all users Internet of a country in its rights. This would be even more important insofar as the organization that carried out this activity had representatives in our community, who would have to explain the aforementioned measures in terms compatible with their role as representatives of the users.This possibility underscores the importance of ALSs and their representatives declaring their interests in relation to actors other than users, such as ISPs and ccTLD operators and other registries. Alejandro Pisanty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Faculty of Chemistry UNAM Av.Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 FROM MEXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http: // www. isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es [lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Alejandro Acosta [alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:03 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Position of LACRALO Gentlemen, One query: even when LACRALO is going to turn a blind eye (understand ignoring) Web page locks, URLs, DNS and a thousand other things that happen in our region every day. Be careful, I'm not saying that LACRALO has to fix the problem but take a position.And before they tell me that it is not something related to DNS, IF there is a lot of DNS included in all this. By the way, remember the slogan: "One world, one Internet" Greetings, Alejandro, _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org / mailman / listinfo / lac-discuss-en http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https: //atlarge-lists.icann. org / mailman / listinfo / lac-discuss-en http://www.lacralo.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty College of Chemistry UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 FROM MEXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog:http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http: // www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, htt p://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http: //www.lacralo. org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.orghttps://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) Translated by transbot 2.18-2.04 http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/4184b00cc8.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Posición de LACRALO
by Alejandro Acosta Feb. 15, 2019

Feb. 15, 2019

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] [[--This message had format issues and was not translated properly--]] Subject:Re: Posición de LACRALO Desde:Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com> I also live in Caracas, Venezuela ;-) On 2/15/19 at 11:32, Alberto Soto wrote: Well, I'd like to listen to Harold Arcos, who lives there and is our representative. Best regards Alberto Soto On February 15, 2019, at 2:11 am, Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com> I wrote: Hello Tocayo, You have no idea how much I appreciate your comments. Unfortunately, in the present mail, no one is targeted. I would like to mention (in the same context of ideas), that I received communications by private from several people that in some way showed some possibility of at least one letter or mention by some ALS or with a lot of luck of LACRALO, hopefully so. I take the opportunity to indicate that despite having many years in the middle (> two days) I consider myself quite new in this world of LACRALO.However, I am not oblivious to his work and I have always felt a deep respect for several of my friends who have passed through here. Today a person from ICANN sent an email to another list and the same had written -among other things- "help guarantee a global, unified, stable and secure Internet". In my super humble opinion I feel that LACRALO does not follow these words. Ojo, I do not want to criticize the current chair or any, not least the previous ones, I even put myself in this bag too ..., I just feel that something can be done and that our duty is to do it. What can be done ?. 1) Identify countries, cities, people where the Internet is not free, unified, secure, etc., etc. 2) The same of countries "that break" Internet, DNS, etc., etc. 3) Countries that do not comply with a, b, c, d of cybersecurity 4) Much more aj, they then identified what? ..., contact, teach, move with them, converse, TAKE a position, offer a hand, etc, etc. I am going to extend myself a little more .., eye, once again I recognize that I have very little experience in LACRALO, what I am going to say is not necessarily "achievable" - LACRALO probably wants to discuss technical issues but they focus on politics (I am talking about what is politically correct and / or getting involved) - When it's not something political, you want to take it to the economic (my thinking by reviewing the history of the list ..., review hundreds of messages) What I feel with the last two points is that they place a giant stone to advance in some points. You pray, what LACRALO does (and fails to do) has a VERY big impact on the Internet of Latam. The only thing that we are all looking for is a better Internet in each country of our region, Regards, Alexander, PS Finally, regarding the involvement of the workplace of one of our representatives, I dare not say anything at this time. On 02/14/19 at 20:26, Alejandro Pisanty wrote: Dear Alejandro Acosta, I see how surely you also do it, with sadness, the silence that has followed our communications. A review of the forensic analysis of the DNS phishing and redirecting incident that we are discussing, and that has been widely published, indicates that the workplace of one of our regional representatives is directly involved in the operation. This requires, at least, a clarification, given that the event has given rise to very strong complaints from users in the country in question. It will be difficult to consider them represented in these terms. Alejandro Pisanty On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:12 PM Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan(a)unam.mx> wrote: Dear Alejandro Acosta, I agree in general with the position of Vanda in that it is not appropriate that as LACRALO or ICANN we express ourselves regarding a phishing incident, although the one that is in comment is an incident that is not oriented to cause or patrimonial (in that case be a crime and not a political act). Where I think we should deepen is in the fact that we report an incident that manipulates the resolution of names in the DNS at the level of a ccTLD or an operator very close to it, that is, with the potential to affect all Internet users of a country in their rights.This will be even more important insofar as the organization that carries out this activity has representatives in our community, who will have to explain the aforementioned measures in terms compatible with their role as representatives of the users. This possibility underscores the importance of ALS and their representatives declaring their interests in relation to different actors of the users, such a s ISPs and operators of ccTLDs and other registries. Alejandro Pisanty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Faculty of Chemistry UNAM Av.Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 FROM M XICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join to the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http: // www .isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es [lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Alejandro Acosta [alejandroacostaalamo(a)gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10: 03 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Position of LACRALO You pray, A query: until LACRALO is going to turn a blind eye (understand ignore) Web page locks, URLs, DNS and a thousand other things that occur in our region every day. Be careful, I do not say that LACRALO has to fix the problem but take a position. And before they tell me that it is not something related to DNS, IF there is a lot of DNS included in all this. By the way, remember the slogan: "One world, one Internet" Greetings, Alejandro, _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org / mailman / listinfo / lac-discuss-en http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https: //atlarge-lists.icann. org / mailman / listinfo / lac-discuss-en http://www.lacralo.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Faculty of Chemistry UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 FROM M XICO SMS +525541444475 Blog:http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .LinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http: // www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn,http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Twitter:http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .---- >> Join ISOC Mexico,http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http: //www.lacralo. org [[--Original text (es) Translated by transbot 2.18-2.04 http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/7a73501b1b.html --]]

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