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March 5, 2021

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Your mail to 'lac-discuss-en' with the subject Re: [lac-discuss-es] About the Virtual General Assembly of our region Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/confirm/lac-discuss-en/59fea0d3b8f8… ________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Your mail to 'lac-discuss-en' with the subject Re: [lac-discuss-es] About the Virtual General Assembly of our region Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/confirm/lac-discuss-en/af81c25be32e… ________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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March 5, 2021

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Your mail to 'lac-discuss-en' with the subject Re: [lac-discuss-es] About the Virtual General Assembly of our region Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/confirm/lac-discuss-en/24a1d434abf7… ________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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March 5, 2021

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Your mail to 'lac-discuss-en' with the subject [lac-discuss-en] Your message to lac-discuss-en awaits moderator approval Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/confirm/lac-discuss-en/f043cfae9d73… ________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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[lac-discuss-es] Your message to lac-discuss-en awaits moderator approval
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March 5, 2021

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Your mail to 'lac-discuss-en' with the subject [lac-discuss-en] Your message to lac-discuss-en awaits moderator approval Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/confirm/lac-discuss-en/64eba01e5c0e… ________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Acerca de la Asamblea General Virtual de nuestra región
by lac-discuss-es＠atlarge-lists.icann.org March 5, 2021

March 5, 2021

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] In agreement. Kind regards Alberto soto From: lac-discuss-es<lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of LACRALO Spanish<lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Reply to: lilian ivette de luque bruges<lilidebru(a)hotmail.com> Date: Friday, March 5, 2021, 3:32 PM To: Sergio Salinas Porto<presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> CC: LACRALO Spanish<lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] About the Virtual General Assembly of our region Dear Sergio, I agree with your message, we are living in exceptional times that merit measures, rules and procedures that adapt to them. I think that for this assembly we should be somewhat flexible and later adapt our procedures to the times and circumstances that we are experiencing. Regards, Lilian Ivette De Luque Bruges Representative ALS AGEIA Colombia The 5 mar. 2021 8:30, Sergio Salinas Porto via lac-discuss-es<lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: Dear friends, our virtual general assembly is approaching and with it a topic that I would like to share. Both Harold and I are of the idea of being able to open participation to everyone and the greater places of participation found in the region, the better opportunities for involvement there are in the region. The COVID 19 pandemic wreaked havoc on this issue and impaired participation at all levels of our relational life, including ICANN and LACRALO. We have a debt of modifying the metric rules to which our procedural rules and our operating principles are tied in some way and that is going to curtail in some way the possibility of participation of some ALS and we are concerned. The rules say the following: "Article 11. 6" Art 11.6: About the Quorum: In the case of holding an Ordinary or Extraordinary General Assembly, the quorum to meet will be understood to be constituted with half plus one of the ALS active on first call and with any ALS present. whatever your number is, 20 minutes after the time established for its opening. " As is clear from this text, the term "Active" is tied to the metric rules. This implies that very few ALS will be able to participate in the General Assembly. And I believe that it is not feasible in this framework to make the metrics document and the categorization of "Active and Inactive" valid for the ALS in this exceptional Pandemic framework. I do believe that we must redesign other metric rules that adjust to reality, as well as an honesty of our region, nobody escapes that although we are 61 ALS, the number of active ALS in the region is another, but I think this is not the ideal time to be in positions that compromise the possibility of participation. My position is that everyone can participate whether or not they have had active participation. Without detriment to this, if there is a sufficient number of ALSs that suggest that my proposal is unfeasible and that we must apply this rule rigorously, we will review this issue with Harold and we will adjust to the general laws according to article 11.6 of our rules of procedure. I await comments, if any, since I have to be clear about where we should go in our Virtual General Assembly. I greet you with my greatest affection Sergio Salinas Porto Argentine Internet President - LACRALO / ICANN Argentine Association of Internet Users / FeTIA FUILAC- Federation of Internet Users of LAC facebook: salinasporto twitter: sergiosalinas Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 "Hopefully we can be disobedient, every time we receive orders that humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo Galeano ________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Acerca de la Asamblea General Virtual de nuestra región
by lac-discuss-es＠atlarge-lists.icann.org March 5, 2021

March 5, 2021

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Hello Sergio I think you're right. The 2022 Assembly without, we will have the use of the metric as basic, for the question of participation / quorum. Vanda scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 Sorry for any typos. From: "lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org"<lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of "lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org"<lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Reply-To: Sergio Salinas<presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> Date: Friday, March 5, 2021 at 14:42 To: "lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org"<lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [lac-discuss-es] About the Virtual General Assembly of our region Dear friends, our virtual general assembly is approaching and with it a topic that I would like to share. Both Harold and I are of the idea of being able to open participation to everyone and the greater places of participation found in the region, the better opportunities for involvement there are in the region. The COVID 19 pandemic wreaked havoc on this issue and impaired participation at all levels of our relational life, including ICANN and LACRALO. We have a debt of modifying the metric rules to which our procedural rules and our operating principles are tied in some way and that is going to curtail in some way the possibility of participation of some ALS and we are concerned. The rules say the following: "Article 11. 6" Art 11.6: About the Quorum: In the case of holding an Ordinary or Extraordinary General Assembly, the quorum to meet will be understood to be constituted with half plus one of the ALS active on first call and with any ALS present. whatever your number is, 20 minutes after the time established for its opening. " As is clear from this text, the term "Active" is tied to the metric rules. This implies that very few ALS will be able to participate in the General Assembly. And I believe that it is not feasible in this framework to make the metrics document and the categorization of "Active and Inactive" valid for the ALS in this exceptional Pandemic framework. I do believe that we must redesign other metric rules that adjust to reality, as well as an honesty of our region, nobody escapes that although we are 61 ALS, the number of active ALS in the region is another, but I think this is not the ideal time to be in positions that compromise the possibility of participation. My position is that everyone can participate whether or not they have had active participation. Without detriment to this, if there is a sufficient number of ALSs that suggest that my proposal is unfeasible and that we must apply this rule rigorously, we will review this issue with Harold and we will adjust to the general laws according to article 11.6 of our rules of procedure. I await comments, if any, since I have to be clear about where we should go in our Virtual General Assembly. I greet you with my greatest affection Sergio Salinas Porto Argentine Internet President - LACRALO / ICANN<https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/lacralo> Argentine Association of Internet Users<http://www.internauta.org.ar/> / FeTIA<http://www.fetia.org.ar/> FUILAC- Federation of Internet Users of LAC<https://fuilac.org> facebook: salinasporto<http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> twitter: sergiosalinas<http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 "Hopefully we can be disobedient, every time we receive orders that humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo Galeano

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Acerca de la Asamblea General Virtual de nuestra región
by lac-discuss-es＠atlarge-lists.icann.org March 5, 2021

March 5, 2021

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org ________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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March 5, 2021

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Your mail to 'lac-discuss-en' with the subject [lac-discuss-es] About the Virtual General Assembly of our region Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/confirm/lac-discuss-en/0a3dce1d5be2… ________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Your mail to 'lac-discuss-en' with the subject [lac-discuss-en] Your message to lac-discuss-en awaits moderator approval Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/confirm/lac-discuss-en/10e1ca6da91a… ________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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