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Re: [Latingp] AGENDA for the GP call on July the 19th, 2018, 16:00UTC
by Mats Dufberg July 16, 2018

July 16, 2018

Mirjana, I have no invitation for that meeting. Could you please send all call-in information for the meeting, or could I use the same information as for the meeting two weeks ago? Mats --- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist, IIS Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://www.iis.se/en/ From: Latingp <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Date: Sunday, 15 July 2018 at 19:14 To: ICANN Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [Latingp] AGENDA for the GP call on July the 19th, 2018, 16:00UTC Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. I am still working on IP comments. Please look at the documents in Agenda item #3 and #4 before telephone conference. Regards Mirjana AGENDA for the GP call on July the 19th, 2018, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Face to face meeting in September or October, do we have a final dates 3. IP comments on repertoire – material for discussion https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ucbOomIbJys4l4bUQyKuyrg8bP3QXFdEngxeA0d… 1. Latin/Cyrillic cross-script Variants finalization https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ontc-amdQ_dFCRCc9oHBvotjwIhYc8xEM1OBn5y… 1. Next telephone conference August the 2nd 2. AOB

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AGENDA for the GP call on July the 19th, 2018, 16:00UTC
by Mirjana Tasić July 15, 2018

July 15, 2018

Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. I am still working on IP comments. Please look at the documents in Agenda item #3 and #4 before telephone conference. Regards Mirjana AGENDA for the GP call on July the 19th, 2018, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Face to face meeting in September or October, do we have a final dates 3. IP comments on repertoire – material for discussion https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ucbOomIbJys4l4bUQyKuyrg8bP3QXFdEngxeA0d… 1. Latin/Cyrillic cross-script Variants finalization https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ontc-amdQ_dFCRCc9oHBvotjwIhYc8xEM1OBn5y… 1. Next telephone conference August the 2nd 2. AOB

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Re: [Latingp] Finalize cross-script analysis Latin/Cyrillic
by Mirjana Tasić July 14, 2018

July 14, 2018

Dear GP members, We shall have our regular GP meeting next Thursday, 19 of July. I shall share soon my Proposal of Agenda. One of the topics shall be the discussion how to finalize Latin/Cyrillic analysis. Regards Mirjana From: Latin GP <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Reply-To: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com> Date: Friday, July 13, 2018 at 22:23 To: Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [Latingp] Finalize cross-script analysis Latin/Cyrillic All, Can we meet next Thursday 19, 16:00 UTC to finalize the Latin/Cyrillic analysis? (this is our usual meeting time). If we have quorum of 4-5 panel members we can ask Pitinan or Sarmad to provide the Adobe connect details. Please respond if you can attend. Thank you, Dennis

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Finalize cross-script analysis Latin/Cyrillic
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis July 13, 2018

July 13, 2018

All, Can we meet next Thursday 19, 16:00 UTC to finalize the Latin/Cyrillic analysis? (this is our usual meeting time). If we have quorum of 4-5 panel members we can ask Pitinan or Sarmad to provide the Adobe connect details. Please respond if you can attend. Thank you, Dennis

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Latin GP Face to Face meeting
by Sarmad Hussain July 13, 2018

July 13, 2018

Dear Latin GP members, Based on our discussion during the Latin GP call and follow up discussion with Brussels office, 24-26 September are being suggested for the Latin GP face to face meeting. Kindly let us know if these dates are suitable. Regards, Sarmad From: Latingp [mailto:latingp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 3:24 PM To: latingp(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [Latingp] Summary of Latin GP Meeting on 5 July 2018 Dear Latin GP members, I’m resending to attach the files. Regards, Pitinan From: Latingp <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org <mailto:latingp-bounces@icann.org> > on behalf of Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org <mailto:pitinan.koo@icann.org> > Date: Friday, July 6, 2018 at 03:18 To: "latingp(a)icann.org <mailto:latingp@icann.org> " <latingp(a)icann.org <mailto:latingp@icann.org> > Subject: [Latingp] Summary of Latin GP Meeting on 5 July 2018 Dear Latin GP Members, Please find attached the summary of the meeting of Latin GP Meeting on 5 July 2018. Please let us know if you would like to suggest any edits or additions. Action Items S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Confirm the F2F meeting date during second half of September 2018. SH 2 Add reference for proof of use of ĕ (Latin small letter with breve). MT 3 Review the IP feedback Google Doc and comment or suggest responses. ALL 4 Classify the cross-script variant cases which two inspectors disagree DT This summary and the recording will be posted at the Latin GP wiki page at shortly <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…> https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Latin+GP[community.… Regards, Pitinan

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Re: [Latingp] Latin GP Face to Face meeting
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis July 12, 2018

July 12, 2018

October dates are fine too. On 7/12/18, 12:16 PM, "Latingp on behalf of Sarmad Hussain" <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> wrote: Dear All, Thank you for responding. I also wanted to check if an alternate set of dates 1-3 October would also be possible. Regards, Sarmad -----Original Message----- From: Latingp [mailto:latingp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Michael Bauland Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 2:06 AM To: latingp(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [Latingp] Latin GP Face to Face meeting Dear Sarmad, the dates are fine for me. Thanks, Michael -- ____________________________________________________________________ | | | knipp | Knipp Medien und Kommunikation GmbH ------- Technologiepark Martin-Schmeisser-Weg 9 44227 Dortmund Germany Dipl.-Informatiker Fon: +49 231 9703-0 Fax: +49 231 9703-200 Dr. Michael Bauland SIP: Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de Software Development E-mail: Michael.Bauland(a)knipp.de Register Court: Amtsgericht Dortmund, HRB 13728 Chief Executive Officers: Dietmar Knipp, Elmar Knipp _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list Latingp(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp

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Codepoints from Esperanto
by Bill Jouris July 11, 2018

July 11, 2018

The following code points occur in Esperanto, but are not previously included in our Repertoire: | Unicode | Glyph | Unicode Name | | 0109 | ĉ | Latin Small Letter C with Circumflex | | 011D | ĝ | Latin Small Letter G with Circumflex | | 0125 | ĥ | Latin Small Letter H with Circumflex | | 0135 | ĵ | Latin Small Letter J with Circumflex | | 016D | ŭ | Latin Small Letter U with Breve | In addition, we had included | 015D | ŝ | Latin Small Letter S with Circumflex | This in our repertoire, but the only example was from Tswa, which is EGIDS 5 -- which the IP apparently doesn't consider sufficient for inclusion. So we may want to modify the entry to reflect Esperanto there. Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct)

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Re: [Latingp] Summary of Latin GP Meeting on 5 July 2018
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis July 10, 2018

July 10, 2018

Action Item #4 completed. Google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ontc-amdQ_dFCRCc9oHBvotjwIhYc8xEM1OBn5y… From: Latingp <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 4:24 PM To: "latingp(a)icann.org" <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] Summary of Latin GP Meeting on 5 July 2018 Dear Latin GP members, I’m resending to attach the files. Regards, Pitinan From: Latingp <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org> Date: Friday, July 6, 2018 at 03:18 To: "latingp(a)icann.org" <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [Latingp] Summary of Latin GP Meeting on 5 July 2018 Dear Latin GP Members, Please find attached the summary of the meeting of Latin GP Meeting on 5 July 2018. Please let us know if you would like to suggest any edits or additions. Action Items S. No. Action Items Owner 1 Confirm the F2F meeting date during second half of September 2018. SH 2 Add reference for proof of use of ĕ (Latin small letter with breve). MT 3 Review the IP feedback Google Doc and comment or suggest responses. ALL 4 Classify the cross-script variant cases which two inspectors disagree DT This summary and the recording will be posted at the Latin GP wiki page at shortly https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Latin+GP[community.…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…> Regards, Pitinan

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Variants -- Case for Considering Upper Case
by Bill Jouris July 10, 2018

July 10, 2018

One of the classifications where we have disagreement is over Upper Case / Lower Case. Here is how I see it. We (at ICANN, and folks at the IETF) know that domain names are strictly lower case. But the vast majority of Internet users know no such thing. They have decades of experience which teaches them that Upper Case and Lower Case are totally interchangable. Thus, if they see www.icann.org or WWW.ICANN.ORG or http://www.icann.org they will expect (correctly!) that all of those will take them to the same website. The Least Astonishment Principle therefore requires us to recognize that, for our user community, Upper and Lower case are variants. Period. We may wish that this was not the case. But we cannot ignore the reality that it is. I would also note that the IP's words on this subject are "the GPs are not required to consider capital letters". We do not live in a world where everything which is not required is forbidden -- and we have not been forbidden to consider the reality before us. Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct)

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Esperanto
by Mats Dufberg July 10, 2018

July 10, 2018

Can we justify the inclusion of Esperanto? Mats --- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist, IIS Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://www.iis.se/en/

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