May 2019 - Latingp - lists.icann.org

Underlining Pairs for Review
by Bill Jouris May 16, 2019

May 16, 2019

Dear colleagues, I have updated the Underlining spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWE… We have 16 variant pairs (identified by a yellow highlight in column L) flagged for review. Also 35 pairs established (identified by "Var" in column K). FYI, I took variant pair as established when both inspectors rated it as a) either 1 or 2, for b) at least one of the three fonts. Review was flagged when one inspector had the pair as a 1 or 2 for at least one font, but the other inspector had all fonts rated 3 or above. Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct)

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Call tonight 2019-05-16
by Mats Dufberg May 16, 2019

May 16, 2019

Friends, I have been sick for a week and I am still not feeling too well. If I do not call in tonight, please excuse my absence. When classifying the pairs in the Underlining Analysis I noticed that some glyphs that has a combining mark are incorrectly rendered in Courier font in my web browsers (Chrome and Firefox on MacOS). The mark was rendered to the right of the base character instead of above or below it. When I copied it to and editor it was correctly rendered there with the same font (or at least the same font name). Then I also discovered that in some cases the distinction between the first and the second character (character in column C vs column D) was larger because the added underlining was moved further down. I have done my basic judgement on how it looks like in the web browser without zooming the window. Then I zoomed to 120% and made a comment in those cases where I then would judge 2 or 3 instead of 1 or 2. Mats --- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist Internetstiftelsen (The Swedish Internet Foundation) Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://internetstiftelsen.se/

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Latin GP weekly meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana May 15, 2019

May 15, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, This is a gentle reminder for the Latin GP meetings on Thursdays at 16:00 UTC. Please join via https://icann.zoom.us/j/866686947 AGENDA for the GP call on May the 16th, 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Status of Action items 3. Further steps and priorities 4. Next meeting proposal May the 23rd , 2019, 16:00 5. AOB Action items from previous calls ACTION ITEM STATUS 1. Complete URL Underlining Analysis * Send spreadsheet with analysis for review by IP * Focus on clear-cut cases, but make a call for other cases as well * Consider incorporating “q” vs “g” in similarity section; mention URL underlining case * Bear in mind effect of transitivity when defining variants * Cedilla and Comma Below have historic relationship; good candidate for variants (even without URL underlining) 1.Dennis, started, 2.Meikal and Bill should provide table based on Denis proposal for further investigation of underlining-RESOLVED 3.Meikal an Bill offered excel sheets for evaluation 4. Table for rating underlined code points is HERE [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> 5. All members to put marks in this table 2. Create clear guidelines for variant definition that can be used as references in the proposal 1.Dennis, Meikal, Bill 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report 3. Review “base character” analysis per assignments finish reviewing previous work 1. Finished reports could be found HERE [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_L…> 2. Cannot find reports from Mats and Denis 4. Further input on German Eszett by German Registries 1. Michael. Text added in Final Report 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report 5. Write-up proposal to include 00B7 (Middle Dot) to support “l·l” (letter L + Middle Dot + letter L) for Catalan language -- 1. Michael, results from discussion with IP 2. Short report on this action should be included in Final report 6. Develop test label strategy 1. Mirjana gave Proposal[docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 2. ALL – comments expected 7. Create test cases for dotless I vis-a-vis IDNA 2003 Compatibility issues 1. Mats 8. Complete section for IDNA2003 compatibility issues in next version 1. Dennis, Mats 9. Maintenance of list of cases for additional similarity review 1. Bill.-Table could be found HERE[dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 2. What are next steps? 10. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.docx) 1. Bill- Text could be found HERE[dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 2. Problem should be discussed by Panel 11. In script analysis on visual ground NOT STARTED YET 12. Discussion on filling final report with results of our analysis of In-script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis. Maikal gave the suggestion in Appendix D. We should decide how to fill final report with our results. 1. Meikal’s template for Appendix D[onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view…> accepted 13. Filling Appendix D template [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view…>with findings from non-visual analysis 1. Finished : Mirjana, Meikal, Michael 2. Expecting (Mats, Bill, Denis, Hazzem) 14. Wordmark.it users, who needs them REMINDERS 1. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD… [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 2. Following In script Non visual base character analysis sent as .pdf.or word document could be found in Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna… [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_L…> · Hazzem · Mirjana · Bill · Meikal · Michael · Missing reports from: * Denis * Mats 3. IN Script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis (homework from Oct 2018 F2F meeting) · Michael https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6f_5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-AFnlkezJ9zwP20… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> · Mirjana https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ggZHyg35k_2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-M-Im1… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> · Bill https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nfm-1A8Keomj0DP_IJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> · Hazem https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRF… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> · Meikal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fjxdwx_eRep94Xp5YcidiA_4svV73MFc8wLGM2z… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> · Dennis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> · Mats, https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna… [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_home_L…> 4. Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi… [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view…> 5. Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri… [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 6. Underlining analysis table (Bill’s version) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWE… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> Regards, Pitinan ……………. How to join Zoom Meeting: https://icann.zoom.us/j/866686947 Audio options 1. Join with Computer Audio by clicking the “Join With Computer Audio” button. 2. Dial in my your location, find your local number at https://zoom.us/u/aw6COk4xD , Meeting ID: 866 686 947

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AGENDA for the GP call on May the 16th, 2019, 16:00UTC
by Mirjana Tasić May 14, 2019

May 14, 2019

Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. Any comments are welcome. Pitinan will send the remainder on time. I am asking you all to fill your findings on non-visual analysis of Latin code points in template for Appendix D<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi…>. We need this step in order that these findings could be inserted in Final Report. If you forgot what your findings where you can find your documents in REMAINDER at the end of this letter item no 3. Also, you can find links for all relevant working documents either in Action items table or at the end of this document in the section REMINDERS. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on May the 16th, 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Status of Action items 3. Further steps and priorities 4. Next meeting proposal May the 23rd , 2019, 16:00 5. AOB Action items from previous calls ACTION ITEM STATUS 1. Complete URL Underlining Analysis * Send spreadsheet with analysis for review by IP * Focus on clear-cut cases, but make a call for other cases as well * Consider incorporating “q” vs “g” in similarity section; mention URL underlining case * Bear in mind effect of transitivity when defining variants * Cedilla and Comma Below have historic relationship; good candidate for variants (even without URL underlining) 1.Dennis, started, 2.Meikal and Bill should provide table based on Denis proposal for further investigation of underlining-RESOLVED 3.Meikal an Bill offered excel sheets for evaluation 4. Table for rating underlined code points is HERE<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWE…> 5. All members to put marks in this table 2. Create clear guidelines for variant definition that can be used as references in the proposal 1.Dennis, Meikal, Bill 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report 3. Review “base character” analysis per assignments finish reviewing previous work 1. Finished reports could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna…> 2. Cannot find reports from Mats and Denis 4. Further input on German Eszett by German Registries 1. Michael. Text added in Final Report 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report 5. Write-up proposal to include 00B7 (Middle Dot) to support “l·l” (letter L + Middle Dot + letter L) for Catalan language -- 1. Michael, results from discussion with IP 2. Short report on this action should be included in Final report 6. Develop test label strategy 1. Mirjana gave Proposal<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LJpUJB2XfBc76O4LuDl9jmPqI7WCai_s-9szi6_…> 2. ALL – comments expected 7. Create test cases for dotless I vis-a-vis IDNA 2003 Compatibility issues 1. Mats 8. Complete section for IDNA2003 compatibility issues in next version 1. Dennis, Mats 9. Maintenance of list of cases for additional similarity review 1. Bill.-Table could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri…> 2. What are next steps? 10. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.docx) 1. Bill- Text could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD…> 2. Problem should be discussed by Panel 11. In script analysis on visual ground NOT STARTED YET 12. Discussion on filling final report with results of our analysis of In-script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis. Maikal gave the suggestion in Appendix D. We should decide how to fill final report with our results. 1. Meikal’s template for Appendix D<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi…> accepted 13. Filling Appendix D template<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi…> with findings from non-visual analysis 1. Finished : Mirjana, Meikal, Michael 2. Expecting (Mats, Bill, Denis, Hazzem) 14. Wordmark.it users, who needs them REMINDERS 1. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD… 1. Following In script Non visual base character analysis sent as .pdf.or word document could be found in Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna… · Hazzem · Mirjana · Bill · Meikal · Michael · Missing reports from: * Denis * Mats 1. IN Script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis (homework from Oct 2018 F2F meeting) · Michael https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6f_5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-AFnlkezJ9zwP20… · Mirjana https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ggZHyg35k_2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-M-Im1… · Bill https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nfm-1A8Keomj0DP_IJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1… · Hazem https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRF… · Meikal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fjxdwx_eRep94Xp5YcidiA_4svV73MFc8wLGM2z… · Dennis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0… · Mats, https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna… 1. Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi… 1. Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri… 1. Underlining analysis table (Bill’s version) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FZmntXOan_7LF0ckzKZNLrla0L8eC_GxWE…

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Underlining Analysis Spreadsheet
by Meikal Mumin May 9, 2019

May 9, 2019

Dear colleagues, As discussed, I have assigned code points to different members as first and second reviewer, and have shared editing access to the spreadsheet directly with Mirjana, Mats, Michael, Dennis, Bill, and Hazzem. Kindly let me know if I accidentally forgot someone or something. The URL is https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RhJCVVYlEGBnUfoyVT6NHLb41r39M2TTKZy… Best, Meikal

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AGENDA for the GP call on May the 9nd, 2019, 16:00UTC
by Mirjana Tasić May 9, 2019

May 9, 2019

Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. Any comments are welcome. Pitinan will send the remainder on time. I have tried to collect all our findings for In-script Variants. I put all working documents found in two places: some in DROPBOX and some in GOOGLE DOCS. You will find links for every piece of working papers I found in the table with ACTION ITEMS. Please review the list and give me some feedback, have I missed something. Also I ask you to fill template for Appendix D<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi…> with your findings in order that these findings could be inserted in Final Report. If you forgot what your findings where you can find your documents in REMAINDER at the end of this letter item no 3. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on May the 9nd, 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Status of Action items 3. Further steps and priorities 4. Next meeting proposal May the 16th, 2019, 16:00 5. AOB Action items from previous calls ACTION ITEM STATUS 1. Complete URL Underlining Analysis * Send spreadsheet with analysis for review by IP * Focus on clear-cut cases, but make a call for other cases as well * Consider incorporating “q” vs “g” in similarity section; mention URL underlining case * Bear in mind effect of transitivity when defining variants * Cedilla and Comma Below have historic relationship; good candidate for variants (even without URL underlining) 1.Dennis, started, 2.Meikal and Bill should provide table based on Denis proposal for further investigation of underlining-RESOLVED 3.Meikal prepared table. 4.PROPOSAL: Every GP member should process 28 code points 14 as Reviewer 1 and 14 as Reviewer 2. Meikal should grant access for editing 2. Create clear guidelines for variant definition that can be used as references in the proposal 1.Dennis, Meikal, Bill 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report 3. Review “base character” analysis per assignments finish reviewing previous work 1. Finished reports could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna…> 2. Cannot find reports from Mats and Denis 4. Further input on German Eszett by German Registries 1. Michael. Text added in Final Report 2. ALL-Resolve comments in Final Report 5. Write-up proposal to include 00B7 (Middle Dot) to support “l·l” (letter L + Middle Dot + letter L) for Catalan language -- 1. Michael, results from discussion with IP 2. Resolved 6. Develop test label strategy 1. Mirjana gave Proposal<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LJpUJB2XfBc76O4LuDl9jmPqI7WCai_s-9szi6_…> 2. ALL – comments expected 7. Create test cases for dotless I vis-a-vis IDNA 2003 Compatibility issues 1. Mats 8. Complete section for IDNA2003 compatibility issues in next version 1. Dennis, Mats 9. Maintenance of list of cases for additional similarity review 1. Bill.-Table could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri…> 2. What are next steps? 10. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.docx) 1. Bill- Text could be found HERE<https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD…> 2. Problem should be discussed by Panel 11. In script analysis on visual ground NOT STARTED YET 12. Discussion on filling final report with results of our analysis of In-script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis. Meikal gave the suggestion in Appendix D. We should decide how to fill final report with our results. 1. Meikal’s template for Appendix D<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi…> accepted 13. Filling Appendix D template<https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi…> with findings from non-visual analysis 1. Finished : Mirjana, Meikal, Michael 2. Expecting (Mats, Bill, Denis, Hazzem) 14. Wordmark.it users, who needs them REMINDER 1. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD… 1. Following In script Non visual base character analysis sent as .pdf. or word document could be found in Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna… · Hazem · Mirjana · Bill · Meikal · Michael · Missing reports from: * Denis * Mats 1. IN Script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis (homework from Oct 2018 F2F meeting) · Michael https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6f_5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-AFnlkezJ9zwP20… · Mirjana https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ggZHyg35k_2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-M-Im1… · Bill https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nfm-1A8Keomj0DP_IJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1… · Hazem https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRF… · Meikal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fjxdwx_eRep94Xp5YcidiA_4svV73MFc8wLGM2z… · Dennis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0… · Mats, https://www.dropbox.com/home/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/InScriptVariantAna… 1. Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi… 1. Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri…

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Latin GP meeting on 9 May 2019 UTC1600
by Sarmad Hussain May 9, 2019

May 9, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, Please find updated meeting information below. 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Canceled: Latin GP weekly meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana May 9, 2019

May 9, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, We are changing the meeting link. I'm cancelling this invitation and Sarmad will share the link for today's meeting soon. Regards, Pitinan

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Diacritics Below
by Bill Jouris May 8, 2019

May 8, 2019

Dear colleagues, I would like to show why I think the various diacritics below (not just dot and macron) ought to be accounted variants as well. And I thought I'd do it as an email, because that's likely to be the way (along with links on web pages) that most people will get links. By way of example, consider one of the original TLDs: .mil www.teștexampļe1.milwww.testexampḽe2.mil www.testexample3.miḽwww.tesțexample4.miļ Can you honestly say that you can tell which cases of .mil have diacritcs under the L? And if you think you can, did you notice which cases of "testexample" had them? And which diacritic? Because I sure can't. Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct)

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Latin GP weekly meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana May 2, 2019

May 2, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, This is a gentle reminder for the Latin GP meetings in the top of the hour, 16:00 UTC. How to join Zoom Meeting: https://icann.zoom.us/j/866686947 Audio options 1. Join with Computer Audio by clicking the “Join With Computer Audio” button. 2. Dial in my your location, find your local number at https://zoom.us/u/aw6COk4xD , Meeting ID: 866 686 947 AGENDA for the GP call on May the 2nd, 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Status of Action items 3. Further steps and priorities 4. Next meeting proposal May the 9th, 2019, 16:00 5. AOB Action items from previous calls Item no ACTION 1. Complete URL Underlining Analysis * Send spreadsheet with analysis for review by IP * Focus on clear-cut cases, but make a call for other cases as well * Consider incorporating “q” vs “g” in similarity section; mention URL underlining case * Bear in mind effect of transitivity when defining variants * Cedilla and Comma Below have historic relationship; good candidate for variants (even without URL underlining) Dennis, started, Meikal and Bill should provide table based on Denis proposal for further investigation of underlining 2. Create clear guidelines for variant definition that can be used as references in the proposal Dennis, Meikal, Bill 3. Review “base character” analysis per assignments finish reviewing previous work Everyone. If some reports are missing, we should try to find them 4. Further input on German Eszett by German Registries Michael. written report expected 5. Write-up proposal to include 00B7 (Middle Dot) to support “l·l” (letter L + Middle Dot + letter L) for Catalan language -- Michael, results from discussion with IP 6. Develop test label strategy Mats 7. Create test cases for dotless I vis-a-vis IDNA 2003 Compatibility issues Mats 8. Complete section for IDNA2003 compatibility issues in next version Dennis, Mats 9. Maintenance of list of cases for additional similarity review Bill 10. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment:Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) Bill 11. In script analysis on visual ground 12. Discussion on filling final report with results of our analysis of In-script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis. Maikal gave the suggestion in Appendix D. We should decide how to fill final report with our results. 13. Filling the template with findings from non-visual analysis Finished (Mirjana, Meikal, Michael), Expecting (Mats, Bill, Denis, Hazzem) 14. Wordmark.it users, who needs them REMINDER Reports from all in script variants investigation. Please review and correct!!!!!: 1. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) 2. In script analysis on visual ground (Homework from Feb2019 F2F meeting) Hazzem (Attachment: Letter Analysis - Hazem.pdf) Mirjana (Attachment: Opene-e-analysis-Mirjana.pdf) Bill (Attachment: Variant homework II - Bill.pdf) Is anything missing here? 3. IN Script Non-Visual Variant Discovery Analysis (homework from Oct 2018 F2F meeting) Michael https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6f_5JK5YIaoHeYSAQYJfXrW-AFnlkezJ9zwP20… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> Mirjana https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ggZHyg35k_2eplhrGA0wy34U5TeUMi6FM-M-Im1… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> Bill https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nfm-1A8Keomj0DP_IJcgJm62EFdUJRq7HP0CHV1… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> Hazem https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXM4xL5xh9My1QYIVwWrJqJ6djfRr7Ncz0IyNRF… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> Meikal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fjxdwx_eRep94Xp5YcidiA_4svV73MFc8wLGM2z…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> Dennis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> Mats, (kindly provide again) Regards, Pitinan …………….

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