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Response to IP letter from August the 9th
by Mirjana Tasić Sept. 18, 2019

Sept. 18, 2019

Dear GP members Please read the proposal for answering the letter received from IP on August the 9th. I need you to check if I made any mistake in preparation of response dealing with Latin Greek Variants. The proposal of response is at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hXTlULWnH_S6FnCadI_LmMYB8iZ8rPvx_H3zN9s… We shall discuss this letter as first item in our agenda for Thursday the 19th. Regards Mirjana

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Latin GP meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Sept. 18, 2019

Sept. 18, 2019

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AGENDA for the GP call on September the 19th, 2019, 16:00UTC
by Mirjana Tasić Sept. 17, 2019

Sept. 17, 2019

Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. Any comments are welcome. Pitinan will send the remainder on time. All links to relevant working documents could be found at the end of this document in the section REMINDERS. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on September the 19th, 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Response to IP on Latin Greek Variants https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hXTlULWnH_S6FnCadI_LmMYB8iZ8rPvx_H3zN9s… 3. Production of Report Version 5 till 10th of October * Asking all GP members to review their tasks on Trello board with In-script analysis items<https://trello.com/c/BoKkXTzF/1-in-script-variants-analysis> * How to organize finalization of Report V5, who will lead the process 4. Discussion on Dennis contribution Appendix: IDNA Compatibility – Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…>, IDNA2003 compatibility issues slides 8/1 <https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Pey1tE1q3KnvbKtiSjaUNsaVC_AXhwmaLgP…> 5. Finalization of the topic “Sharp s vs ss”, page 61 in the Report 6. Stacking with combining diacritics<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GKJ-NF5MnRllFiz7iaa5hsmyNpg5oxPxqBl2MNt…> - discussion 7. Next meeting proposal September the 26th, 2019, 16:00UTC 8. AOB REMINDERS 1. Latin GP – Report version 5 schedule<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1siFPKNqSr-YGj0DKurvS3hcoa8Y8eAJUBHp…> 2. Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi… Panel members contributions are in Appendix D<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13OI1Yb9RO2Z_l4C0hbFCZ8xVONxdwqBU> 1. Apendix D Merger<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nGIerPh21yxPHuuSyNo2uShanvFzD0MUb1ai6QV…> made by Meikal 2. Trello board with In-script analysis items<https://trello.com/c/BoKkXTzF/1-in-script-variants-analysis> 3. Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri… 4. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD… Google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GKJ-NF5MnRllFiz7iaa5hsmyNpg5oxPxqBl2MNt… 1. Dennis contribution Appendix: IDNA Compatibility – Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 2. IDNA2003 compatibility issues slides 8/1 <https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Pey1tE1q3KnvbKtiSjaUNsaVC_AXhwmaLgP…> produced by Dennis

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Latin GP meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Sept. 12, 2019

Sept. 12, 2019

Dear Latin GP member, This is a reminder for the Latin GP meeting on 12 September 2019, 16:00 UTC. The meeting is starting soon. Please connect to the meeting at https://icann.zoom.us/j/922577525. AGENDA for the GP call on September the 12th, 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Discussion on Dennis contribution Appendix: IDNA Compatibility – Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…>, IDNA2003 compatibility issues slides 8/1 [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presen…> 3. Finalization of the topic “Sharp s vs ss”, page 61 in the Report 4. Stacking with combining diacritics [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> - discussion 5. Next meeting proposal September the 19th, 2019, 16:00UTC 6. AOB Regards, Pitinan

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AGENDA for the GP call on September the 12th, 2019, 16:00UTC
by Mirjana Tasić Sept. 11, 2019

Sept. 11, 2019

Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. The agenda is almost the same as it was last seven calls, only dates of calls are changed. Any comments are welcome. Pitinan will send the remainder on time. All links to relevant working documents could be found at the end of this document in the section REMINDERS. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on September the 12th, 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Discussion on Dennis contribution Appendix: IDNA Compatibility – Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…>, IDNA2003 compatibility issues slides 8/1 <https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Pey1tE1q3KnvbKtiSjaUNsaVC_AXhwmaLgP…> 3. Finalization of the topic “Sharp s vs ss”, page 61 in the Report 4. Stacking with combining diacritics<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GKJ-NF5MnRllFiz7iaa5hsmyNpg5oxPxqBl2MNt…> - discussion 5. Next meeting proposal September the 19th, 2019, 16:00UTC 6. AOB REMINDERS 1. Latin GP – Report version 5 schedule<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1siFPKNqSr-YGj0DKurvS3hcoa8Y8eAJUBHp…> 2. Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi… Panel members contributions are in Appendix D<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13OI1Yb9RO2Z_l4C0hbFCZ8xVONxdwqBU> 1. Apendix D Merger<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nGIerPh21yxPHuuSyNo2uShanvFzD0MUb1ai6QV…> made by Meikal 2. Trello board with In-script analysis items<https://trello.com/c/BoKkXTzF/1-in-script-variants-analysis> 3. Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri… 4. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD… Google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GKJ-NF5MnRllFiz7iaa5hsmyNpg5oxPxqBl2MNt… 1. Dennis contribution Appendix: IDNA Compatibility – Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 2. IDNA2003 compatibility issues slides 8/1 <https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Pey1tE1q3KnvbKtiSjaUNsaVC_AXhwmaLgP…> produced by Dennis

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Sharp S and Allocatable vs Blocked
by Bill Jouris Sept. 9, 2019

Sept. 9, 2019

I guess my response to the point about other cases with Variants being first-come-first-served would be that other cases involve different words and perhaps different languages. The case we have here involves, potentially, the same word and the same language. (That, after all, is why we even were considering making this particular variant Allocatable.) My take is that this constitutes a significant difference, and thus makes a different approach reasonable. Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct)

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Summary of Latin GP Meeting on 5 September 2019
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Sept. 5, 2019

Sept. 5, 2019

Dear Latin GP members, Please find attached the summary of the Latin GP meeting on 5 September 2019. Please let us know if you would like to suggest any edits or additions. Action Items S. No.Action ItemsOwner 1Organize the Latin GP meeting with IP session during ICANN66 as discussed by the GP.PK 2Continue discussing the disposition of SSà ß on the mailing listALL This summary and the recording are also posted at the Latin Wiki Page at https://community.icann.org/display/croscomlgrprocedure/Latin+GP Regards, Pitinan

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Underlining
by Bill Jouris Sept. 5, 2019

Sept. 5, 2019

Dear colleagues, As requested, I have updated the Proposal (Section 6.7.1) with our decisions for Variants Due To Underlining. I would like to note one small inconsistency in our results. Basic letters are considered variants of the same letter with a cedilla for letters K, L, N, S, and T. But not for letters C, M, and O. It seems to me that we really ought to be consistent in this. (As we are for Dot Below, Macron Below, Circumflex Below, Ogonek, etc.) Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct)

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Latin GP meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Sept. 5, 2019

Sept. 5, 2019

Dear Latin GP member, This is a gentle reminder for the Latin GP meeting today, Thursday 5 September 2019, 16:00 UTC. Please connect to the meeting at https://icann.zoom.us/j/922577525. AGENDA for the GP call on September the 5th, 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Planning meeting with Integration Panel during ICANN-Montreal on Mon, 4 Nov. (15:15-16:45) 3. Discussion on Dennis contribution Appendix: IDNA Compatibility - Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…>, IDNA2003 compatibility issues slides 8/1 [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presen…> 4. Finalization of the topic "Sharp s vs ss", page 61 in the Report 5. Stacking with combining diacritics [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> - discussion 6. Next meeting proposal September the 12th, 2019, 16:00UTC 7. AOB REMINDERS 1. Latin GP - Report version 5 schedule [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spread…> 2. Meikal's Template for Appendix D on Variants https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi… [onedrive.live.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onedrive.live.com_view…> Panel members contributions are in Appendix D [drive.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_drive…> 3. Apendix D Merger [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> made by Meikal 4. Trello board with In-script analysis items [trello.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__trello.com_c_BoKkXTzF_…> 5. Bill's table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri… [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> 6. Bill's finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD… [dropbox.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dropbox.com_previe…> Google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GKJ-NF5MnRllFiz7iaa5hsmyNpg5oxPxqBl2MNt… [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 7. Dennis contribution Appendix: IDNA Compatibility - Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 8. IDNA2003 compatibility issues slides 8/1 [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_presen…> produced by Dennis Regards, Pitinan

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AGENDA for the GP call on September the 5th, 2019, 16:00UTC
by Mirjana Tasić Sept. 4, 2019

Sept. 4, 2019

Dear GP members. Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next telephone conference. The agenda is almost the same as it was last six calls, only dates of calls are changed. Any comments are welcome. Pitinan will send the remainder on time. All links to relevant working documents could be found at the end of this document in the section REMINDERS. Regards Mirjana ___________________________________________ AGENDA for the GP call on September the 5th, 2019, 16:00UTC 1. Roll call 2. Planning meeting with Integration Panel during ICANN-Montreal on Mon, 4 Nov. (15:15-16:45) 3. Discussion on Dennis contribution Appendix: IDNA Compatibility – Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…>, IDNA2003 compatibility issues slides 8/1 <https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Pey1tE1q3KnvbKtiSjaUNsaVC_AXhwmaLgP…> 4. Finalization of the topic “Sharp s vs ss”, page 61 in the Report 5. Stacking with combining diacritics<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GKJ-NF5MnRllFiz7iaa5hsmyNpg5oxPxqBl2MNt…> - discussion 6. Next meeting proposal September the 12th, 2019, 16:00UTC 7. AOB REMINDERS 1. Latin GP – Report version 5 schedule<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1siFPKNqSr-YGj0DKurvS3hcoa8Y8eAJUBHp…> 2. Meikal’s Template for Appendix D on Variants https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=10C636851F7DD403!612296&ithint=fi… Panel members contributions are in Appendix D<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13OI1Yb9RO2Z_l4C0hbFCZ8xVONxdwqBU> 1. Apendix D Merger<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nGIerPh21yxPHuuSyNo2uShanvFzD0MUb1ai6QV…> made by Meikal 2. Trello board with In-script analysis items<https://trello.com/c/BoKkXTzF/1-in-script-variants-analysis> 3. Bill’s table with code points collected for visual similarity analysis https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-%20In-Scri… 4. Bill’s finding on Stacking with Combining Diacritics (Attachment: Combining Diacritics and Stacking.pdf) Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Latin%20GP/InScriptVariants/Bill-CombiningD… Google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GKJ-NF5MnRllFiz7iaa5hsmyNpg5oxPxqBl2MNt… 1. Dennis contribution Appendix: IDNA Compatibility – Latin Small Letter Sharp S (ß) 00DF [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> 2. IDNA2003 compatibility issues slides 8/1 <https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Pey1tE1q3KnvbKtiSjaUNsaVC_AXhwmaLgP…> produced by Dennis

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