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Single character equivalent to two
by Mats Dufberg Oct. 11, 2018

Oct. 11, 2018

Swedish uses the following five non-ascii characters in its writing system: Unicode Glyph Name Transliteration in passports and tickets 00E4 ä LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS ae 00E5 å LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH RING ABOVE aa 00E9 é LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE e 00F6 ö LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DIAERESIS oe 00FC ü LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH DIAERESIS ue In Swedish passports the person's name appears twice. The first time including the non-ascii letters (if used in the name). The second time, in the bottom of the page, those letters are transliterated as above. If you buy a ticket from a company that does not support the non-ascii characters, then you have to use the transliterated form. Or "machine readable" format, as I have seen it referred to. Danish passports uses the following transliteration (besides where applicable above): Unicode Glyph Name Transliteration 00E6 æ LATIN SMALL LETTER AE ae 00F8 ø LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH STROKE oe I domain names in Sweden, however, the usual transliteration is not as above, but to just remove the diacritic: Unicode Glyph Name Usual transliteration in domain names unless IDN is used 00E4 ä LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS a 00E5 å LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH RING ABOVE a 00E9 é LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE e 00F6 ö LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DIAERESIS o 00FC ü LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH DIAERESIS u I am not sure if this should result in any variants. I just want to describe. Michael, can you describe the standards in German? Mats --- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist, IIS Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://www.iis.se/en/

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Re: [Latingp] [Ext] Presentations for ICANN63
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Oct. 10, 2018

Oct. 10, 2018

Pitinan, Please use the enclosed revised version of the presentation. I had to remove the variant relationship between 0115 and 04D7 on slide 20; 0115 was removed from the repertoire but we didn’t update the variant tables. Thanks, Dennis From: Latingp <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org> Date: Monday, October 8, 2018 at 1:14 PM To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs>, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Cc: Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] [Ext] Presentations for ICANN63 Dear Mirjana, Thank you for the files. We are confirming receipt. Regards, Pitinan From: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Date: Monday, October 8, 2018 at 23:54 To: Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org>, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Cc: Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Presentations for ICANN63 Dear Pitinan, Dear Sarmad, Please find enclosed presentations of Latin GP work for ICANN63 planned sessions. Regards Mirjana

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Request for inclusion three Latin letters in the next version of MSR
by Mirjana Tasić Oct. 10, 2018

Oct. 10, 2018

Dear IP, Latin GP requests that the following code points, PVALID in IDNA 2008, but not included in MSR-3 to be included in the upcoming version of MSR. They are planned to be included in our Latin LGR proposal. ḓ 1E13 LATIN SMALL LETTER D WITH CIRCUMFLEX BELOW ṋ 1E4B LATIN SMALL LETTER N WITH CIRCUMFLEX BELOW ṱ 1E71 LATIN SMALL LETTER T WITH CIRCUMFLEX BELOW All three code points are used in Venda, an EGIDS 1 language, a Bantu language spoken in South Africa and Zimbabwe. The need of the code points is attested in http://www.omniglot.com/writing/venda.htm In addition to the rating, relevant use of Venda today is also demonstrated by the Venda version of Wikipedia at https://ve.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayani. Best Regards Mirjana Tasić Latin GP chair

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Re: [Latingp] Single character equivalent to two
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Oct. 10, 2018

Oct. 10, 2018

Understand. Thank you. From: Mats Dufberg <mats.dufberg(a)iis.se> Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 10:37 AM To: Dennis Tan Tanaka <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com>, "Latingp(a)icann.org" <Latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] Single character equivalent to two There are no variant management in .SE. You just apply for the name that you want, IDN or ASCII. If you transliterate your non-ASCII name to ASCII you transliterate as you wish. Mats --- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist, IIS Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://www.iis.se/en/ From: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com> Date: Wednesday, 10 October 2018 at 16:13 To: Mats Dufberg <mats.dufberg(a)iis.se>, ICANN Latin GP <Latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Latingp] Single character equivalent to two Hi Mats, Do we know what .SE’s IDN practices are? We could use their IDN table and that of others as data points for our analysis. -Dennis From: Latingp <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Mats Dufberg <mats.dufberg(a)iis.se> Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:54 AM To: ICANN Latin GP <Latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Latingp] Single character equivalent to two Swedish uses the following five non-ascii characters in its writing system: Unicode Glyph Name Transliteration in passports and tickets 00E4 ä LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS ae 00E5 å LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH RING ABOVE aa 00E9 é LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE e 00F6 ö LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DIAERESIS oe 00FC ü LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH DIAERESIS ue In Swedish passports the person's name appears twice. The first time including the non-ascii letters (if used in the name). The second time, in the bottom of the page, those letters are transliterated as above. If you buy a ticket from a company that does not support the non-ascii characters, then you have to use the transliterated form. Or "machine readable" format, as I have seen it referred to. Danish passports uses the following transliteration (besides where applicable above): Unicode Glyph Name Transliteration 00E6 æ LATIN SMALL LETTER AE ae 00F8 ø LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH STROKE oe I domain names in Sweden, however, the usual transliteration is not as above, but to just remove the diacritic: Unicode Glyph Name Usual transliteration in domain names unless IDN is used 00E4 ä LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS a 00E5 å LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH RING ABOVE a 00E9 é LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE e 00F6 ö LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DIAERESIS o 00FC ü LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH DIAERESIS u I am not sure if this should result in any variants. I just want to describe. Michael, can you describe the standards in German? Mats --- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist, IIS Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://www.iis.se/en/

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Re: [Latingp] Single character equivalent to two
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Oct. 10, 2018

Oct. 10, 2018

Hi Mats, Do we know what .SE’s IDN practices are? We could use their IDN table and that of others as data points for our analysis. -Dennis From: Latingp <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Mats Dufberg <mats.dufberg(a)iis.se> Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:54 AM To: ICANN Latin GP <Latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Latingp] Single character equivalent to two Swedish uses the following five non-ascii characters in its writing system: Unicode Glyph Name Transliteration in passports and tickets 00E4 ä LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS ae 00E5 å LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH RING ABOVE aa 00E9 é LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE e 00F6 ö LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DIAERESIS oe 00FC ü LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH DIAERESIS ue In Swedish passports the person's name appears twice. The first time including the non-ascii letters (if used in the name). The second time, in the bottom of the page, those letters are transliterated as above. If you buy a ticket from a company that does not support the non-ascii characters, then you have to use the transliterated form. Or "machine readable" format, as I have seen it referred to. Danish passports uses the following transliteration (besides where applicable above): Unicode Glyph Name Transliteration 00E6 æ LATIN SMALL LETTER AE ae 00F8 ø LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH STROKE oe I domain names in Sweden, however, the usual transliteration is not as above, but to just remove the diacritic: Unicode Glyph Name Usual transliteration in domain names unless IDN is used 00E4 ä LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS a 00E5 å LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH RING ABOVE a 00E9 é LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE e 00F6 ö LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DIAERESIS o 00FC ü LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH DIAERESIS u I am not sure if this should result in any variants. I just want to describe. Michael, can you describe the standards in German? Mats --- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist, IIS Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://www.iis.se/en/

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Re: [Latingp] ACTION NEEDED: Letter to IP to add 3 more letters to MSR4
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Oct. 10, 2018

Oct. 10, 2018

Just a couple minor edits, otherwise it looks fine to me. Thanks, D. From: Latingp <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Date: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 5:53 AM To: Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Latingp] ACTION NEEDED: Letter to IP to add 3 more letters to MSR4 Dear GP members, Mats has proposed the following letter to IP for adding three more code points to MSR. Please comment it till tomorrow 13:00UTC. After that time I shall send the letter to IP. Regards Mirjana. Dear IP, Latin GP requests that the following code points, PVALID in IDNA 2008, but not included in MSR-3 to be included in the upcoming version of MSR. They are planned to be included in our Latin LGR proposal. ḓ 1E13 LATIN SMALL LETTER D WITH CIRCUMFLEX BELOW ṋ 1E4B LATIN SMALL LETTER N WITH CIRCUMFLEX BELOW ṱ 1E71 LATIN SMALL LETTER T WITH CIRCUMFLEX BELOW All three code points are used in Venda, an EGIDS 1 language, a Bantu language spoken in South Africa and Zimbabwe. The need of the code points is attested in http://www.omniglot.com/writing/venda.htm

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Re: [Latingp] in-script analysis homework
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Oct. 9, 2018

Oct. 9, 2018

I’m glad the document is useful. Still keen to listen from Meikal about my “stacking” question. @Meikal Mumin<mailto:meikal.mumin@uni-koeln.de> Please check my question below. Thanks! From: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Date: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 4:02 PM To: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com>, Dennis Tan Tanaka <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com>, "latingp(a)icann.org" <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] in-script analysis homework I have used your template and I made some analysis. It was helpful to me to remember what kind of analysis we have to do. Regards Mirjana From: Latin GP <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Bill Jouris <bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com> Reply-To: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com> Date: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 19:34 To: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com>, Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Latingp] in-script analysis homework I like the general format. Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris(a)insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct) ________________________________ From: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis via Latingp" <latingp(a)icann.org> To: "latingp(a)icann.org" <latingp(a)icann.org> Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 2:30 PM Subject: [Latingp] in-script analysis homework Meikal, et al Can I get your feedback on my homework? Just want to make sure I’m doing what I am supposed to do. Please review my working document at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GgawEKKwrvC8P0UAuB5DAka1P13s98HEvp2kxn0… Also, I have a question regarding the Stacking cases. I remember we said let’s do all possible combinations… but If it is clear that the “stacking” is perfectly aligned on the first case, then we shouldn’t need to capture all possible combinations, right? See the two examples in my document. In the first iteration (with letter A) it is clear that the stacking of Circumflex and Tilde is perfect. This alignment is not dependent of the letter that follows. Thanks in advance for your input. Dennis _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list Latingp(a)icann.org<mailto:Latingp@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp

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Action Items from Brussels Workshop
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Oct. 9, 2018

Oct. 9, 2018

I have compiled all noted action items into one single list to ease their tracking. The list starts on page 30 of the document: Review of Variants for the Proposed Latin LGR dated 2018-09-10 located at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WtUcHnlIMJ9qvH4HJ3_nAqH8E2wVp74H-fX1l0q… From here, we need to 1) confirm these are all the action items we captured during the workshop, and 2) assign owners. Please review the list of action items for completeness by Friday 12. If I missed any, go ahead, add a row and complete the information. While you are reviewing the list, if you feel comfortable taking on a given action item, sign-up your name. We’ll appreciate it. Thanks, Dennis

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ACTION NEEDED: Letter to IP to add 3 more letters to MSR4
by Mirjana Tasić Oct. 9, 2018

Oct. 9, 2018

Dear GP members, Mats has proposed the following letter to IP for adding three more code points to MSR. Please comment it till tomorrow 13:00UTC. After that time I shall send the letter to IP. Regards Mirjana. Dear IP, Latin GP request that the following code points, PVALID in IDNA 2008, but not included in MSR-3 to be included in upcoming version of MSR. They are planned to be included in our Latin LGR proposal. ḓ 1E13 LATIN SMALL LETTER D WITH CIRCUMFLEX BELOW ṋ 1E4B LATIN SMALL LETTER N WITH CIRCUMFLEX BELOW ṱ 1E71 LATIN SMALL LETTER T WITH CIRCUMFLEX BELOW All three code points are used in Venda, an EGIDS 1 language, a Bantu language spoken in South Africa and Zimbabwe. The need of the code points is attested in http://www.omniglot.com/writing/venda.htm

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Re: [Latingp] [Ext] Presentations for ICANN63
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Oct. 8, 2018

Oct. 8, 2018

Dear Mirjana, Thank you for the files. We are confirming receipt. Regards, Pitinan From: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic(a)rnids.rs> Date: Monday, October 8, 2018 at 23:54 To: Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org>, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain(a)icann.org> Cc: Latin GP <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Presentations for ICANN63 Dear Pitinan, Dear Sarmad, Please find enclosed presentations of Latin GP work for ICANN63 planned sessions. Regards Mirjana

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