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Re: [AFRI-Discuss] AFRI-Discuss Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2
by BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE Aug. 5, 2008

Aug. 5, 2008

my refering phone number is: 00243998983491 Baudouin 2008/8/5 <afri-discuss-request(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Send AFRI-Discuss mailing list submissions to > afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > afri-discuss-request(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > afri-discuss-owner(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AFRI-Discuss digest..." > > > Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this > list are more accurate: > http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#… > - - - - - > > Today's Topics: > > 1. AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th > (Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole) > 2. Re: AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th (Matthias Langenegger) > 3. Re: AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th (Khaled KOUBAA) > 4. meeting and raison d'?tre (Alan Levin) > 5. Re: AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th (Mohamed EL Bashir) > 6. Re: AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th (Philemon) > 7. [Reminder] AFRALO Monthly Teleconference @ Wed 6 Aug 13:00 ? > 14:00 () (Google Calendar) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:06:22 +0100 > From: "Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole" <dkasole(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [AFRI-Discuss] AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th > To: <afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Cc: At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > Message-ID: <489809FD.000010.03584@YOUR-8B0DB5E2CA> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Dear AfRALO memebers > > Please find next telconference agenda for your comment: > > Adoption of the agenda > Roll Call Apologies from the Members (if any) > Designation of a Chair for the meeting > Welcom to MACIS > Staff announcements > Improving regional communications ( ALS in Africa) > Interactions with Other RALOS > Review of the Action Items : Discussions ALAC review > > I hope some of you are already conted for telephone number confirmation, > number to dial, code etc... > > Kind regards > > Didier R Kasole > AfRALO Sec. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 01:35:31 -0700 > From: Matthias Langenegger <matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org> > Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th > To: Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole <dkasole(a)gmail.com>, > "afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" > <afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Cc: At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > Message-ID: <C4BDDD73.5C71%matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org<C4BDDD73.5C71%25matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thank you for the agenda, Didier. > > Dear AFRALO members, > > You find below a list with the phone numbers we will call tomorrow a couple > of minutes before the start of the AFRALO teleconference at 1300 UTC. Please > get in contact with me if you will not be reachable at one of the provided > numbers tomorrow. > > French Channel: > Hawa Diakit?, +223 221 20 58, +223 221 08 04, +223 674 35 72 > Fatimata Seye Sylla, +221 33 864 42 84, +221 33 639 31 95 > Didier Kasole, +243 999 912 911, +212 53 35 35 68 > Abdelaziz Hilali. + 212 37 77 83 08 , + 212 37 71 33 63 > Arnold Mulenda Yamukandu, +243 9900 20 922 > Mr. Gabriel Bombambo + 353879184739 > > English Channel: > Mohmammed El Bashir, +24 9183766729, +24 9912148139 > Ciza Victor, +25 778 839 000 > Alyoce Menda, +255 755 789 468 > > Talk to you soon! > > Best Regards, > -- > Matthias Langenegger > At-Large Coordination Officer > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > Email: matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org > Main Tel: +41 (79) 644 65 35 > Fax: +41 (22) 594 85 44 > Skype ID: matthiaslangenegger > > > > > > On 05/08/2008 10:06, "Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole" <dkasole(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Dear AfRALO memebers > > > > Please find next telconference agenda for your comment: > > > > Adoption of the agenda > > Roll Call Apologies from the Members (if any) > > Designation of a Chair for the meeting > > Welcom to MACIS > > Staff announcements > > Improving regional communications ( ALS in Africa) > > Interactions with Other RALOS > > Review of the Action Items : Discussions ALAC review > > > > I hope some of you are already conted for telephone number confirmation, > number to dial, code etc... > > > > Kind regards > > > > Didier R Kasole > > AfRALO Sec. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:56:22 +0200 > From: Khaled KOUBAA <khaled.koubaa(a)topnet.tn> > Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th > To: Matthias Langenegger <matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org> > Cc: "afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" > <afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, At-Large Staff > <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > Message-ID: <489815B6.3040407(a)topnet.tn> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Matthias, > Please add my phone number : +216 98 270 025 / +216 25 166 060 > But unfortunatly I will not be able to reach you tomorrow as I have > already scheduled a conference call at 12pm UK Time and it will take > more than one hour. > Regards, > > Khaled KOUBAA > President ISOC Tunisia > > Matthias Langenegger a ?crit : > > Thank you for the agenda, Didier. > > > > Dear AFRALO members, > > > > You find below a list with the phone numbers we will call tomorrow a > couple of minutes before the start of the AFRALO teleconference at 1300 UTC. > Please get in contact with me if you will not be reachable at one of the > provided numbers tomorrow. > > > > French Channel: > > Hawa Diakit?, +223 221 20 58, +223 221 08 04, +223 674 35 72 > > Fatimata Seye Sylla, +221 33 864 42 84, +221 33 639 31 95 > > Didier Kasole, +243 999 912 911, +212 53 35 35 68 > > Abdelaziz Hilali. + 212 37 77 83 08 , + 212 37 71 33 63 > > Arnold Mulenda Yamukandu, +243 9900 20 922 > > Mr. Gabriel Bombambo + 353879184739 > > > > English Channel: > > Mohmammed El Bashir, +24 9183766729, +24 9912148139 > > Ciza Victor, +25 778 839 000 > > Alyoce Menda, +255 755 789 468 > > > > Talk to you soon! > > > > Best Regards, > > -- > > Matthias Langenegger > > At-Large Coordination Officer > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > > > Email: matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org > > Main Tel: +41 (79) 644 65 35 > > Fax: +41 (22) 594 85 44 > > Skype ID: matthiaslangenegger > > > > > > > > > > > > On 05/08/2008 10:06, "Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole" <dkasole(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear AfRALO memebers > > > > > > > > Please find next telconference agenda for your comment: > > > > > > > > Adoption of the agenda > > > > Roll Call Apologies from the Members (if any) > > > > Designation of a Chair for the meeting > > > > Welcom to MACIS > > > > Staff announcements > > > > Improving regional communications ( ALS in Africa) > > > > Interactions with Other RALOS > > > > Review of the Action Items : Discussions ALAC review > > > > > > > > I hope some of you are already conted for telephone number confirmation, > > number to dial, code etc... > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > > > Didier R Kasole > > > > AfRALO Sec. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AFRI-Discuss mailing list > > AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > > > Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org > > > > Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this > list are more accurate: > http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#… > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:47:37 +0200 > From: Alan Levin <alan(a)futureperfect.co.za> > Subject: [AFRI-Discuss] meeting and raison d'?tre > To: "All Accredited At Large Structures ((ALS)) in Africa" > <afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, At-Large Staff > <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > Message-ID: <02149E06-EC36-45D0-AE7D-B89349A6CF6E(a)futureperfect.co.za> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Hi All, > > Firstly, my apologies that I cannot attend the meeting tomorrow. I > have a standing appointment at work for Wednesday afternoons at 3pm, > so I appeal that the next meeting is not set for the same time and > day. Any other day and time should be fine. > > Secondly my apologies for what is going to appear to be a rant. I will > be honest, I do not think it is useful to have an organization that > does nothing besides talk about itself all the time. If we continue in > this vain, I cannot understand what is our (Afralos) raison d'?tre. > (i.e. In the last 35 emails to the list they have contained ONLY > information about who are members, thanks and blank or forwarded > emails. The one exception is Nicks email asking 'why are we existing' > which seems to be the question in hand). > > Some comments inline wrt agenda (which is consistent with all other > comms): > > On 05 Aug 2008, at 10:06 AM, Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole wrote: > > Please find next telconference agenda for your comment: > > Please can you ensure that the agenda is distributed at least a few (2 > or more) days before the meeting so that people can comment and > contribute. My sense is that it need not be huge, just that it always > has at least a draft agenda, date and time of the meeting plus > information about how to join. > > > Adoption of the agenda > > Roll Call Apologies from the Members (if any) > > Designation of a Chair for the meeting > > Welcom to MACIS > > Staff announcements > > These seem to all be formalities.... IMHO this could all be sent and > completed via email (well as much as possible). It shouldn't take more > than 2 minutes on the telephone call if it is to be productive. > > > Improving regional communications ( ALS in Africa) > > I do not think that this is the purpose of the AfRALO. I am already a > member of 8 other lists where African Internet (and ICANN) issues are > discussed. In addition there are regular African meetings at ICANN > events. My sense is that the communications are pretty good. The thing > I do not understand is where are all the policy discussions that > relate to African Internet Users, please advise me. > > > Interactions with Other RALOS > > IMHO, this is the job of the AfRALO representatives and we should get > some written feedback from them about these. It still does not address > any material issues that relate to our purpose: Where are all the > policy discussions that relate to African Internet Users? > > > Review of the Action Items : Discussions ALAC review > > I'm interested to see what comes up here (in the ALAC review). > > I recently read on one of the lists where they actually discuss policy > that relates to end users. As a stub for discussion on policy issues > that relate to our members, and proposed agenda item, I ask the > following questions about: > > The GNSO reform > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > There is a GNSO reform underway. My understanding is that the GNSO is > where the work is done that goes to the Board for decision making. It > also is responsible for a great deal of the inter-constituency debate > and recommendations that come from that. > > One of the reasons for the reform was that the GNSO was not balanced > wrt interests being represented. Initially the business constituencies > controlled 9 out of 10 votes (the other one was the non-commercial > constituency which is the closest to end user or public interests). > Later, registries and registrars were given some voting, which > balanced the commercial groups but industry suppliers had too much > control. > > In Paris a small working group was established to review the GNSO > structure. They appear to be in agreement that there should be a > balanced number of votes between commercial and non-commercial > interests in the GNSO. (I expect that we all see end users as non- > commercial). Unfortunately it has become clear that the ALAC > representative in this group does not appear supportive of this > proposed balance. This seems completely wrong, can anyone (ideally one > of our elected representatives on the ALAC) please explain why this is > the case? Surely it is our mandate to ensure that users have a voice > in the GNSO? > > Apparently the ALAC representative on the working group is a Nomcom > appointee and was mainly concerned with retaining Nomcom appointed > seats. I am not sure if we agree with that. In my opnion, if we > (Afralo) were operating efficiently, it may be better for us to > appoint the GNSO representative in place of the Nomcom. What do you > think? > > The feelings I've expressed in this email are not only my perception, > even those not involved in the ALAC at all are saying: "we see ALAC > bogged down in its own internal politics and somewhat disconnected > from the larger issues". > > I look forward to reading any comments. > > Sincerely, > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:00:16 +0300 > From: Mohamed EL Bashir <admin(a)isoc.sd> > Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th > To: Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole <dkasole(a)gmail.com> > Cc: afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org, At-Large Staff > <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > Message-ID: <489824B0.8030804(a)isoc.sd> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dear Didier > > Due to a unplanned travel unfortuntely i won't be able to attend tomorrow > AfRALO meeting . > > my Apologies . > > Regards, > Mohamed > > Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole wrote: > | > | Dear AfRALO memebers > | > | Please find next telconference agenda for your comment: > | > | Adoption of the agenda > | Roll Call Apologies from the Members (if any) > | Designation of a Chair for the meeting > | Welcom to MACIS > | Staff announcements > | Improving regional communications ( ALS in Africa) > | Interactions with Other RALOS > | Review of the Action Items : Discussions ALAC review > | > | I hope some of you are already conted for telephone number confirmation, > | number to dial, code etc... > | > | Kind regards > | > | Didier R Kasole > | AfRALO Sec. > | > | > | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > | > | _______________________________________________ > | AFRI-Discuss mailing list > | AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > | > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > | > | Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org > | > | Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this > list are more accurate: > > http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#… > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iQEVAwUBSJgksFf5+cz7DKK3AQKtiwgAgf8lCz7FUbrhhHcWJI/yRmdRv3CyAAgP > isxwrZt5aGFnzjITxye18aOlQgNmyhGqCAMX1N/rQm39CO7khJplMM1FA6nizIwN > IltQ5Kxs+9QADpNJt96Of1nWBbnlXqu8RAqbFhyLKa9Kh7VWOf+77CPJFt/u+y6i > VS0TZePL/RUclYB257U1o3V9pfJSlz/AezgyyI8Hzeeuiqnn74hU2LlOKcCylVsT > XloXDXGt0CUvMgZNUKaUZQSxiTBdlWEGq8C/UqIWoFC45s5V0VO824eUMkJF9hd8 > qgPEYmL6/TPWtAitDx5MkFgF+ZuEKpiAYyiy4g9eEdU68Qrd0ns8ag== > =LDjA > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:23:40 +0100 > From: "Philemon" <philemon(a)drtvnet.cg> > Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th > To: "'Matthias Langenegger'" <matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org>, > "'Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole'" <dkasole(a)gmail.com>, > <afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Cc: 'At-Large Staff' <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > Message-ID: <005701c8f6e5$54b26420$7e01a8c0@DRTVnet1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Matthias/Didier > > If it is not late, please add me on the list for the French channel. > Sorry for the delay. > > Philemon +242 5360396 > > E-talk to you soon > > Cheers > > Philemon (ISOC-CONGO) > > -----Original Message----- > From: afri-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of > Matthias > Langenegger > Sent: mardi 5 ao?t 2008 09:36 > To: Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole; afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: At-Large Staff > Subject: Re: [AFRI-Discuss] AfRALO Teleconference agenda august 6th > > Thank you for the agenda, Didier. > > Dear AFRALO members, > > You find below a list with the phone numbers we will call tomorrow a couple > of minutes before the start of the AFRALO teleconference at 1300 UTC. > Please > get in contact with me if you will not be reachable at one of the provided > numbers tomorrow. > > French Channel: > Hawa Diakit?, +223 221 20 58, +223 221 08 04, +223 674 35 72 > Fatimata Seye Sylla, +221 33 864 42 84, +221 33 639 31 95 > Didier Kasole, +243 999 912 911, +212 53 35 35 68 > Abdelaziz Hilali. + 212 37 77 83 08 , + 212 37 71 33 63 > Arnold Mulenda Yamukandu, +243 9900 20 922 > Mr. Gabriel Bombambo + 353879184739 > > English Channel: > Mohmammed El Bashir, +24 9183766729, +24 9912148139 > Ciza Victor, +25 778 839 000 > Alyoce Menda, +255 755 789 468 > > Talk to you soon! > > Best Regards, > -- > Matthias Langenegger > At-Large Coordination Officer > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > Email: matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org > Main Tel: +41 (79) 644 65 35 > Fax: +41 (22) 594 85 44 > Skype ID: matthiaslangenegger > > > > > > On 05/08/2008 10:06, "Didier Rukeratabaro Kasole" <dkasole(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Dear AfRALO memebers > > > > Please find next telconference agenda for your comment: > > > > Adoption of the agenda > > Roll Call Apologies from the Members (if any) > > Designation of a Chair for the meeting > > Welcom to MACIS > > Staff announcements > > Improving regional communications ( ALS in Africa) > > Interactions with Other RALOS > > Review of the Action Items : Discussions ALAC review > > > > I hope some of you are already conted for telephone number confirmation, > number to dial, code etc... > > > > Kind regards > > > > Didier R Kasole > > AfRALO Sec. > > _______________________________________________ > AFRI-Discuss mailing list > AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss_atlarge-lists.i > cann.org<http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss_atlarge-lists.…> > > Homepage for the region: http://www.afralo.org > > Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this > list are more accurate: > > http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a > nexo1<http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#…> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:00:13 -0700 > From: Google Calendar <calendar-notification(a)google.com> > Subject: [AFRI-Discuss] [Reminder] AFRALO Monthly Teleconference @ Wed > 6 Aug 13:00 ? 14:00 () > To: afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Message-ID: <001485f91c4063d8ea0453b6099d(a)google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org, this is a reminder for > > Title: AFRALO Monthly Teleconference > Time: Wed 6 Aug 13:00 ? 14:00 (Time zone: GMT (no daylight saving)) > Where: Adigo - Teleconference > Calendar: > Description: 1300 UTC start. Please find all the information on this > Teleconference under the following URL: > https://st.icann.org/afralo/index.cgi?monthly_teleconferences > > You can view this event at > http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=anJoNTUycWNjYXIwYm1vYj… > > > > You are receiving this courtesy email at the account > afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org because you are an attendee of this > event. > > To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. > Alternatively, you can sign up for a Google account at > http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for > your entire calendar. > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > AFRI-Discuss mailing list > AFRI-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/afri-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > Homepage for the region: www.afralo.org > > Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent to this > list are more accurate: > http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#… > - - - - - > > > End of AFRI-Discuss Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2 > ******************************************* > -- SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN COORDONNATEUR NATIONAL REPRONTIC COORDONNATEUR SOUS REGIONAL ACSIS/AFRIQUE CENTRALE MEMBRE FACILITATEUR GAID AFRIQUE Tél:+243998983491 email:b.schombe@gmail.com <email%3Ab.schombe(a)gmail.com> http://akimambo.unblog.fr

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