November 2008 - lac-discuss-en

Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] Draft ALAC Statement on the IDN Fast Track Draft Implementation Plan
by Carlton Samuels Nov. 4, 2008

Nov. 4, 2008

Dear Colleagues: For your advice. Carlton ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:30 AM Subject: [ALAC-Announce] Draft ALAC Statement on the IDN Fast Track Draft Implementation Plan To: "alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" < alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: idn-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Dear Community: As you may be aware, a public consultation has been opened on a draft Implementation Plan for Fast Track IDN deployment. The consultation may be found here: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-3-23oct08-en.htm In order to facilitate drafting, ALAC IDN Liaison Hong Xue has compiled a draft statement. It may be found here: https://st.icann.org/idn-policy/index.cgi?fast_track_idn_implementation_draf t_statement Comments from the wider At-Large community are welcomed and encouraged. The At-Large IDN Policy homepage is at https://st.icann.org/idn-policy/index.cgi?at_large_idn_policy. Anyone who is interested in getting involved in the At-Large IDN policy work may join the IDN Working Group list at http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/idn-wg_atlarge-lists.icann.o rg<http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/idn-wg_atlarge-lists.icann.…> . -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Marie-Helene Bouchoms ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ ALAC-Announce mailing list ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce_atlarge-lists… At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org

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FW: Actualizacion de politicas - Policy Updates
by Nick Ashton-Hart Nov. 4, 2008

Nov. 4, 2008

Carlos¹ email got discarded for some reason so I¹ve forwarded it to you. In particular you may want to look at the Monthly Policy Update. It is available in Spanish. You may also subscribe to it and receive it automatically. ------ Forwarded Message > From: carlos aguirre <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:23:28 -0800 > To: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: Actualizacion de politicas - Policy Updates > > Estimados Amigos: Dear Friends: > > I send to you a interesting document wich can improve your participation. > > Envio a Uds. un documento interesante y que puede servir para mejorar la > participacion. disponible en español. > > Best Regards . your humble servant > > lo mejor para Uds. - Vtro. humilde servidor > > http://www.icann.org/topics/policy/ > > > > > > > > > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > abogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - > *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 > www.sitioderecho.com.ar <http://www.sitioderecho.com.ar/> > www.densi.com.ar <http://www.densi.com.ar/> > > > > > Lo que hay dentro de ti es lo que cuenta - ¿Qué tipo de atleta eres? > <http://yourinnerathlete.windowslive.com?locale=es-ar&TXT_TAGLM_WLYIA_whicha… > lete_ar> ------ End of Forwarded Message

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Highlighed version of proposals for amending the ICANN Strategic Plan
by At-Large Staff Nov. 4, 2008

Nov. 4, 2008

Dear All: As you know, ICANN is embarking upon a review of the strategic plan of the organisation. This review is meant to be an evolution of the present strategic plan, which runs through 2012, rather than a new plan. We have requested and today received a version of the proposed amendments with highlighted sections showing which proposals are new or amendments to the existing plan. You may find this (in English only at the present time) at http://www.icann.org/en/strategic-plan/draft-strategic-plan-hilited-2009-201 2-en.pdf. You may find the strategic plan itself, in multiple languages, at http://www.icann.org/en/strategic-plan/ -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Marie-Helene Bouchoms ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] = to?iso-8859-1?q?Participaci=F3n_de_LACRALO_=28car = =?iso-8859-1?q?encia_de=29_-_RESUMEN =
by presidencia＠internauta.org.ar Nov. 3, 2008

Nov. 3, 2008

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: = to?iso-8859-1?q?Participaci=F3n_de_LACRALO_=28car = =?iso-8859-1?q?encia_de=29_-_RESUMEN = From: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Wanted jackeline, ingles will try to look for the email of you in language and traducire Spanish, to be able to answer what you this commanding. The translation to the Spanish of which it is written in ingles is pesima. It is not managed to understand single parrafo of which you write. Also I believe to understand that you this worried about the participation of LACRALO in ICANN, I understand that it leaves from the answer this in the problem that we have at this moment. A very great greeting, shortly (if with himself its text in ingles) answers to him. Sergio PS: if you are so amiable to send his to me emails (in language ingles) to my direction personnel agradeceria asi I can be read them and be emitted myopinion on the subject. to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Again the greeting. Sergio not Original Message From: <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> To: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:54 P.m. Subject: Re: Participation of LACRALO (deficiency of) - SUMMARY > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Re: Participation of LACRALO (deficiency of) - SUMMARY > Of: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com > > Since I am not obtaining to any volunteers for the Spanish to the English > translation of my previous email, I will try to summarize the pipe > the ends and hope that the automatic translation improves estevez: > > ICANN's Thin was created to provide the user of the end entered > ICANN > Process of the policy of the names and the numbers of Internet. > > LACRALO was first the THIN one created in DEC 2006. > > Trabaje' very hardly so that LACRALO is created. > > Trabaje' very hardly so that LACRALO obtains the access to some of the resources > necessary to participate. For example simultaneous interpretation, document > the translation is some items notches and I worked ignition when it was in the ALAC. > After leaving to the ALAC the last year, I have continued participating. > > LACRALO in 2 years has commented very little! (measured counting the list > traffic) in editings of policy of ICANN that have come for above for > using of the end > information entrance. This is uniform in where there are been the documents > translated professionally. > Envie' an email 6 weeks ago it suggested the editings which ICANN requested > ignited entrance of information, to be discussed. I receivedan email in the substance of > editings. > > Hay at the moment many of the discussion in widest in great around > requisite of the participation. There were some answers to that in > the LACRALO list, so it looked like as if the editing was ofinterest. > > Taking all the this in the consideration, I asked for the ignited discussion: > > 1) in the great minimum requirements of the participation and must LACRALO > thinks to put such in execution? > > the 2) aspects of the education of exceed - sugerenciaeso isnobody > can be added to are rising that? > > 3) provides with personnel efforts towards providing to the re! sources paraexcede. > > Is important that the region so that o! ur entra nce of information is done. For years > there > has been one or 2 people who commentd out all. I worked to create > LACRALO to increase the number of the people who had a voiceinside > international processes. I am disappointed that the voice continues being so > little in nobodies of the 6 official languages of the regionof the LACQUER. And it is > important to use it or to lose it. > > and desemejante of the last time, I tried to raise policy editings, when > Sergio, you sent a repugnant email and offensive of cualno she referred ANYONE > the noun publishes, but tried to attack to me in my personnel > capacity... that is not going to happen again. I gave a lastone him of the freebie > the time, but if you falsify the facts and lies again on me,I no > you let pass this time to him. Pegúese to substantivas editings and has a > productive discussion. > > Jacqueline > > > > to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar wrote: > [ [ - - translatedtext (is - >)--]] of in > > > ! > subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?La_participaci=F3n_de_LACRALO_=28 > ==?iso-8859-1?q?carencia_de=29_publica = > of: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > > > wanted Jackelyn, I do not understand what you mean, ustedpuedo to be but clear? > the no. of the translator > he admits that the tin of comprenderte clearly and I no > we wished to answer before without being strong box of > what your you say, pídele to some > companion ours of the Hispanic speech that translates it if > is difficult so that > you can hacerlo. > > I am thanked for to you > > Sergio > > > > > > > > > Original Message > of: <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> > a: > <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > sent: Domingo, 02 of November Of 2008 9:20 > Tomorrow > subject: The participation of LACRALO (deficiency of) publishes > > > > > [ [ - - text translated (in - > is)--]] > > > subject: The participation of > LAC! RALO (deficiency of) publishes > of: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.c! om > > Envie ' that > the email down quoted to the LACQUER I absolutely discuss the list I do > awhile > unfortunately, has still not seen any improvement! > in this situation, as > a single post has still not been made to thelist to encualquier > person of > the substantivas editings of the policy that I enumerated > without > embargo, has been certain discussion on the participation of the minute > of > ALAC procedures > * > * also I observe that I have not heard much in > minimum of LACRALO > the participation that to me is a great question for the discussion > > opaque leading of the discussion of the participation of ALAC: > > * how > little participation if LACRALO allows before applying > the internal sanctions (is > to say before ALAC reaches the stage where > - certificara ' of a ALS)? that is - > of which > of the participation is requisite minimum LACRALO? Observe that! > > > > > > the participation of! the minute of ALAC > the requirements is enlínea in > > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/framework.htm#minimumcriteria - > and espocas > enough! > * must have minimum requirements of the participation? > * if it is not > participating a ALS representative, what broad LACRALO does> indicates to the ALS that his > representing is risking its ALS perhaps > > > the certification and suggests strongly cambioathe person? > > > is 2 years. There is some ALSes like which it watches to parahaber fallen extinguished > > expensive of the Earth since sao Paulo - I have not heard, the nobodies seen, obtained > > indication of its existence since then. I am safe that equalit maintains shutdowns > > other regions > so > more questions for the discussion: >> * seamejor > to have little active ALSes listsreleases that one of > theinactive ones? > * how it does > this affects exceeds efforts - it must in great changing > exceeds anyway stops > to obtain ALSes to which > is more probable participates, and through these lines, how > in a study to determine > the characteristics of the organizations who are > participated > successfully and works in ways to any person: > or > approaches and recruits "conjectured more than to the right" the groups as > or create > p! rocesses to obtain to all asp! > irings of ALS "even conjectured to the right > way of the participation" - perhaps > "a training rolls" p! > rogram or > mentoring modelof > organization... > > but in lavista of the session passed over the report of > consultation of Midâ?point of > the group of the operationof the reacondicionamiento of > committee ALAC of the government of the card in > ALAC > improvements - the participation of > ALSes is important to correct in > success or incident of the ALAC model, is urgent > and vital that this one > considérese in the FINE level of> > ICANN is one > organization who now is fixing the policy. LACRALO is > notto provide to > entrance of the information in those policies. The final whole number, and > ONLY > > indicates, of being a ALS is to provide to the entrance of the information in those processes of > > politician > if LACRALO does not do this, more ahead all the work that I did > attempt to fix > along with paraantedicho (Sebastian, E! > rick, Jacob and Pablo) would hav! e been lost > > now, admi! > to that h > to there are been commentary and discussion many > in the reasons of the deficiency of > participation in thepast! > >, being centered mainly > around the latraducción deficiency! > Spanish and Portuguese > s to >. Others > the problem are education eneditings. > without > embargo, with respect to the education publishes, I quesaythat are > solved by > less partially, at least of the face deICANN, since the information is > > (in multiple languages and clasifiado) in the plus ofthese > editings, and > questions can be done in the list of the discussion > of the clarification, of > explanation, of the etc. I doubt something that informed > the members into the list (or > personal of ICANN) before the interior to delrechazaríanasistir > to explain the ends more > darker technicians or (or still most of basic > the ends) IF > ASKS FOR > > with respect to the language publis! hes, although the translations and > > interpretation is h! igh in t he agenda of ICANN's, are sidomuchos there of > > requests of the personnel for the aid of express and s! > ucio the community re > cetera translations ET. Nevertheless, there have been few > answers of the public to > this - there have been some translations of th done > community that corrected! > in > is (based on the number ofposts) ready wing > to interest certain, > but is not many > > also would add that there was > an invitation of personnelof ICANN (Doug and > Denise) to comunidadde to hook a > a discussion on the participation, > what people think thatshe needs, who > requires what resources. That > the invitation was translated the a the French and Spanish. > Still does not have been > responded to > > the LACRALO has been in place a > to start off of 2006 - for FINE oldest, of than > false bitten to they will refrán of > maintains - we it is learning, we is new, we > we is > > now beginning... must a f! irst nonterminal one of FINE component? > > > Jacqueline to Morris > > > Jacqueline to Morris wrote: &g! > t; > LACRALO is interesting has not had no > discus! > ion sobr > and the list in nobodies of editings > puts to the ALAC for> the commentaries, by > fast example > flux > the RAA amendments > the activities of > > transference of the secretary and degracia of the period ofthe rescue > of improvements of > GNSO > IDN > and! > gt; Track > ayunan IPv6 for ccTLDs front operation > of the D! > Na of omain > > I > > the geographic regions > DNSSEC and the correction of > envenenamiento of the DNS > > but > we have many of the discussion on > reductions of the route and > selection > > what makes thatopinion in interest and > priorities of LACRALÓs? > > Jacqueline > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > &g! t; >[ [ - - > original text (inside) > http://mm2.icann! .org/tra nsbot_archive/6e'e596ëa.html > > --]] > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [[ - - original text (it is) > > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/d98da'e49a.html > --]] > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > list thatit sends > lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-list… > > > > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/fca26e7987.html > --]] > > > > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/bfc99ff3a0.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?La_participaci=F3n_de_LACRALO_=28 = =?iso-8859-1?q?carencia_de=29_publica =
by presidencia＠internauta.org.ar Nov. 2, 2008

Nov. 2, 2008

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?La_participaci=F3n_de_LACRALO_=28 = =?iso-8859-1?q?carencia_de=29_publica = From: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Dear Jackelyn, I do not understand what you mean, you can be but clear? the translator no he allows that comprenderte can clearly and I do not want to answer before without being safe of what your you say, pídele to some companion ours of Hispanic speech that translates it if it is difficult for you to be able to do it. I am thankful to you Sergio Original Message From: <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> To: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:20 A.M. Subject: The participation of LACRALO (deficiency of) publishes > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: The participation of LACRALO (deficiency of) publishes > Of: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com > > Envie' the email down quoted to the LACQUER I absolutely discuss the list does awhile. > Unfortunately, I have still not seen any improvement in this situation, like > a single post still has not been made to the list in anyone of > substantivas editings of policy that I enumerated. > Nevertheless, has been a certain discussion on the participation of ALAC minute > procedures. > * > * Also I observe that I have not heard much on minimum of LACRALO > participation that to me is a great question for the discussion > dull leading of the discussion of the participation of ALAC: > > * How little participation if LACRALO allows before applying > internal sanctions (is to say before it reaches the stage where ALAC > of-certificara' a ALS)? that is - which are the minimum of LACRALO > requisite of the participation? Observe that the ! participation of ALAC minute > the requirements are in line in > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/framework.htm#minimumcriteria - > and is few enough ones! > * Must have minimum requirements of the participation? > * If a ALS representative is not participating, what tin LACRALO does > indicates to the ALS that his representative is risking his ALS perhaps > the certification and suggests strongly change to the person? > > is 2 years. There is some ALSes that looks like to have fallen extinguished > the Earth face since sao Paulo - I have not heard, seen, obtained nobodies > indication of its existence since then. I am safe that equalit maintains stops > other regions. > So > More questions for the discussion: > > * Would be better to have little active ALSes that one listsreleases of > the inactive ones? > * How it does this affects exceed efforts - it must in great changing > anyway exceeds to obtain ALSes to that it is more probable > participates, and throughout these lines, how on a study to determine itself > the characteristics of the organizations who have participated > successfully and work on ways to anyone: > or approaches and recruit more "guessed right" groups like > or creates processes to obtain to all the aspirings of ALS "even guessed right > way of the participation "- perhaps" a training rolls "p! rogram or > a model mentoring of the organization... > > But in view of the session passed over the report of the consultation of Midâ?point of > the group of operation of the overhaul of committee ALAC of the government of the card in > ALAC > Improvements - the participation of the ALSes is an important editing in > success or incident of the ALAC model, is urgent and vital that this > considérese in the level of THIN. > > ICANN is an organization who is fixing the policy now. LACRALO is > not to provide to the entrance of information in those policies. The whole end, and > ONLY > indicates, of being a ALS is to provide to the entrance of information in those processes of > political. > If LACRALO does not do this, later all the work that I made try to fix > for above (along with Sebastian, Erick, Jacob and Pablo) would have been lost. > > Now, I admit that there has been commentary and discussion many > in the reasons of the deficiency of the participation in thepast! , being centered mainly > around the deficiency of translation! s to the Spanish and Portuguese. Others > the problem is education in editings. > Nevertheless, with respect to the education publishes, I I would saythat they are > solved at least partially, at least of the face deICANN, since there is > the information (in multiple languages and filed) in most ofthese > the editings, and questions can be done in the list of the discussion > clarification, explanation, etc. I doubt rather that informed > the members of the list (or the personnel of ICANN) to rechazaríanasistir inside > to explain the most technical or darker ends (or still most basic > ends) IF IT IS REQUESTED. > > With respect to the language publishes, although the translations and > the interpretation is high in agenda of ICANN's, are sidomuchos there of > requests of the personnel for the aid of fast and dirty the community re > translations et cetera. Nevertheless, there have been few public answers a > this - there have been some translations of the editing community done th! at > is determined interesting (based on the number of posts) ready wing, > but is not many. > > Also would add that there was an invitation of the personnelof ICANN (Doug and > Denise) to the community to hook to a discussion on the participation, > what people think she needs, require what resources. That > the invitation was translated to the French and Spanish. Still it does not have been > responded a. > > the LACRALO has been in place from 2006 - for THIN the oldest one, that > false bitten to keep saying - we are learning, we are new, we > we are > now beginning... must first the THIN one not lead? > > Jacqueline To Morris > > > Jacqueline To Morris wrote: > is interesting > LACRALO has not had no > discussion on the list on nobodies of editings > puts to the ALAC for > commentaries, for example > Fast Flux > Amendments of RAA >activities of > transference of the secretary and period degracia of the rescue > Improvements of GNSO > IDN > &! gt; IPv6 ayunan track for ccTLDs > front operation of the D! omain Na me > > geographic regions > DNSSEC and the correction of the envenenamiento of the DNS > > but > we has many of the discussion on the reductions of the route and > selection. > > what makes that opinion on interest and priorities of LACRALÓs? >> Jacqueline > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/6e'e596ëa.html > --]] > > > > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/d98d3ae49a.html --]]

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LACRALO (lack of ) participation issues
by Jacqueline A. Morris Nov. 2, 2008

Nov. 2, 2008

I sent the below quoted email to the LAC discuss list quite a while ago. Unfortunately, I haven't yet seen any improvement in this situation, as not a single post has yet been made to the list on any of the substantive policy issues that I listed. However, there has been some discussion on the ALAC min participation procedures. * *I do also note that I haven't heard much about LACRALO minimum participation - that to me would be a great question for discussion leading off of the ALAC participation discussion: * How little participation should LACRALO allow before applying internal sanctions (i.e. Before it reaches the stage where ALAC will de-certify an ALS)? that is - what are the LACRALO minimum participation requirements? Note that the ALAC min participation requirements are online at http://www.atlarge.icann.org/en/framework.htm#minimumcriteria - and they are few enough! * Should there be ANY minimum participation requirements? * If an ALS rep is not participating, what can LACRALO do to indicate to the ALS that their rep is risking their ALS certification and maybe strongly suggest that the person be changed? It's been 2 years. There are some ALSes that seem to have dropped off the face of the earth since Sao Paulo - I haven't heard, seen, got any indication of their existence since. I am sure that the same holds for other regions. So More questions for discussion: * Would it be better to have fewer active ALSes than a long list of inactive ones? * How does this affect outreach efforts - should At Large change outreach in any way to get ALSes that are more likely to participate, and along these lines, how about a study to determine the characteristics of organisations that have participated successfully and work on ways to either: o Approach and recruit more groups like the "successful" ones o Create processes to get all ALS applicants to a "successful participation" mode - maybe a "training wheels" programme or a mentoring organisation model... But considering the last session on the Mid‐point Consultation Report of the Board Governance Committee ALAC Review Working Group on ALAC Improvements - the participation of the ALSes is a major issue in the success or failure of the ALAC model, it is urgent and vital that this be considered at the RALO level. ICANN is an organisation that is setting policy right now. LACRALO is not providing input into those policies. The whole point, and the ONLY point, of being an ALS is to provide input into those policy processes. If LACRALO doesn't do this, then all the work that I did trying to set it up (along with Sebastian, Erick, Jacob and Pablo) would have been wasted. Now, I admit that there has been a great deal of comment and discussion on reasons for lack of participation in the past, mostly centering around the lack of translations into Spanish and Portuguese. Another problem is education on the issues. However, with regard to the education issues, I would say that they are at least partially resolved, at least from the ICANN side, as there are the briefings (in multiple languages and archived) on most of these issues, and questions can be asked on the discussion list for clarification, explanation, etc. I doubt that the more knowledgeable members of the list (or ICANN staff) would refuse to assist in explaining the more technical or obscure points (or even the more basic points) IF ASKED. With regard to the language issues, even though translations and interpretation are high on ICANN's agenda, there have been a lot of requests from staff for assistance from the community re quick and dirty translations and so on. However, there have been few public responses to this - there have been some community translations done on issues that are particularly interesting (based on the number of posts) to the list, but it's not many. I would also add that there was an invitation from ICANN staff (Doug and Denise) to the community to engage in a discussion about participation, what people think they need, what resources are required. That invitation was translated into French and Spanish. It hasn't yet been responded to. The LACRALO has been in place since 2006 - so as the oldest RALO, it's a bit disingenuous to keep saying - we are learning, we are new, we are now starting... should the first RALO not be leading? Jacqueline A. Morris Jacqueline A. Morris wrote: > It's interesting. > LACRALO hasn't had any discussion on the list about any of the issues > put to the ALAC for comments, such as > Fast Flux > RAA Amendments > Registrar transfer activities and redemption grace period > GNSO Improvements > IDN Fast track for ccTLDs > IPv6 > Domain name front running > Geographic regions > DNSSEC and the DNS poisoning patch > > But we did have a lot of discussion about the travel cutbacks and the > election. > What does that say about LACRALO's interest and priorities? > > Jacqueline > >> > >

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ALAC 2nd Session – Community Leaders Accountability & Participation Obligations
by Jacqueline A. Morris Nov. 2, 2008

Nov. 2, 2008

For those who may be interested in participating remotely, or in sending their ideas, comments etc in advance - *04 November 2008 <https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?04_november_2008> 0900- - 1030* /San Souci II/ *ALAC 2nd Session – Community Leaders Accountability & Participation Obligations Jacqueline *

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