February 2009 - lac-discuss-en

Fwd: [LAC-Discuss] ICANN News Alert -- Governments and Country-Code Managers' Interest in the Fast Track Process
by Carlton Samuels Feb. 11, 2009

Feb. 11, 2009

This might be of interest to those from countries where minority language rights are at issue. Carlton Samuels LACRALO Secretariat ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ICANN News Alert <communications(a)icann.org> Date: Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:37 PM Subject: [LAC-Discuss] ICANN News Alert -- Governments and Country-Code Managers' Interest in the Fast Track Process To: lac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ICANN News Alert http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-10feb09-en.htm ________________________________ Governments and Country-Code Managers' Interest in the Fast Track Process 10 February 2009 Last year, ICANN sent letters to countries and territories informing them about the Fast Track process — where a limited number of internationalized domain names will be added to the Internet – and asked them to indicate their level of interest. This is an update on that process. A total of 252 letters were sent to national governments, and copied to country code top-level domain managers. So far we have received 74 responses and a small number of respondents requested confidentiality. Out of these (not counting confidential requests), 31 said they were interested in participating in the Fast Track process, representing a total of 15 different languages. The remaining expressed they were not interested in participating at this time or indicated that they would not be eligible to obtain an IDN ccTLD under the process. (It should be noted that it is not a requirement to reply to the letter in order for a country or territory to take participation in the Fast Track process.) Below this announcement is an updated overview of all non-confidential responses to date. The actual strings that the respondents are interested in obtaining have not been duplicated below but they can be seen by clicking the link to the PDFs for the actual replies. Receiving the information about the anticipated number of requests in the Fast Track Process along with the language specifics is very helpful in planning for implementation of the Fast Track Process. ICANN would like to thank those respondents for providing this information. If you have any questions concerning the information contained in this announcement please email ICANN at: idn-cctld-rfi(a)icann.org Related links Sample letter sent to all governments and ccTLD registries http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-02oct08-en.htm Earlier announcement on responses received http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-01nov08-en.htm For more details about the IDN ccTLD Fast Track Process: http://www.icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/ Responses from National Government: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-10feb09-en.htm#gov Responses from ccTLD Operators: http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-10feb09-en.htm#cctld ________________________________ Sign up for ICANN's Monthly Magazine http://www.icann.org/magazine/

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Support & Defense of Language Rights
by Carlton Samuels Feb. 11, 2009

Feb. 11, 2009

My Dear Friend Sergio: I believe you totally misunderstand my position in the teleconference of Summit WG1 yesterday. And it bothers me to be accused of discriminating against Spanish speakers. That is as far from the truth as you can get. But we can agree to disagree, agreeably. The question was whether it would be advantageous for the presiding officer - the Chair - of a Summit WG discussing the subject "*AT-Large Engagement in ICANN*" to be fluent multilingual, at least bilingual, in the major languages of discourse; Spanish, French and English. Every rational thought, experience - especially in ICANN meetings - and judgment that I have tells me YES, it would be an advantage for the Chair to be so disposed. I offered this as a criteria - one criteria - for selection of the Chairbecause in my opinion, this skill affords the Chair a facility to immediately access SOME of the cross-talk and side conversations that tells you more about the mood of the audience than any translator could possibly do, no matter how good they are. It makes sense in the context of a global group of participants from different language groups but usually having at least one of these language skills. It makes sense in the context of the globally-constituted WG organised with two Vice Chairs with no restrictions on language skills. It makes sense in the context of what might be a fast moving and contentious debate where nuance may elude the translation and cross-talk inevitable. Please don't forget that WG members are totally free to choose whomever they would wish to be Chair. I have but one vote to exercise. The irony in your suggestion of language discrimination is that from the beginning, I have worked diligently to be inclusive of Spanish speakers in an organisation that is relentlessly English-driven and at a time with very little vision as to why it should be multilingual at all levels. Save and except conscientious staff like Nick Ashton-Hart. The first meeting to organize LACRALO in Buenos Aires was conducted in Spanish. Caribbean nationals who are purely English speakers participated. The meeting that organized and voted the Operating Principles was conducted in Spanish with the official text in Spanish. Atlthough as the principal author, it was originally written in English. I believe without reservation in the unfettered right of everyone to exercise their cultural antecedents everywhere and everytime, including speaking your native language. My position *in that WG and for this purpose * was not aimed at any specific person but a principle that I have come to based on reason and my judgment. For it would be otherwise cruelly ironic since, no offense, my Spanish is about as fluent as your English. In the spirit of friendship, cooperation and common cause. Carlton On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:19 AM, <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > > Subject: Re: a supply of the novel -- to the supply of lanovela > From: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > > My dear friend Sends, as you say well, yesterday nobody dear confronting, > single is that he was > the way as it were wanted to impose a candidate by on another one what I > cause annoyances, in > our region never step something thus, never nobody - by questions > idiomáticas- was outside > of being chosen not to speak the Ingles language, always to chosen thinking > about the best thing > for the group of which we are part. The Latins that we were there we are > worried > of which this transforms into policies of discrimination and qualification > within ICANN, > where single they have representation and they occupy definition places > those that are > English-speakers or do not find arrived at superior levels of education > that finds to them > allowed to learn but of a language, that you will include/understand it so > that Dev Net works in > subject of Digital Breach in favored sectors less, and you know that any > man well of > this planet can be representing of its pairs. I insist, this was not a > problem inside > of the ALS, if no, by outside we, cannot seat a precedent in ICANN thus, by > the present that occupies to us and by the future of a true world-wide > government of Internet. > > Sergio Saline I carry > > > >

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Fwd: [Governance] ICANN Meeting in Mexico
by Carlton Samuels Feb. 11, 2009

Feb. 11, 2009

You may find this thread interesting.....and fodder for the discussions at Mexico City. Carlton Samuels ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Norbert Klein <nhklein(a)gmx.net> Date: Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:45 AM Subject: Re: [governance] Re: [Coalition] ICANN Meeting in Mexico To: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org Cc: "Karl E. Peters" <kpeters(a)tldainc.org>, Ginger Paque <gpaque(a)gmail.com> On Wednesday, 11 February 2009 09:23:46 Karl E. Peters wrote: > Ginger and all, > There is currently an effort to organize a "Users" constituency to the > GNSO that meets strong resistance from many who are involved in a new > constituency for non-commercial domain name (SLD) owners. The person > coordinating both efforts on behalf of ICANN is Danny Younger, who deserves > a hearty thanks for a thankless job. Anyone wishing to learn more may join > the list for this effort or ask me if you need directions. Sincerely yours, > Karl E. Peters, President > Top Level Domain Association, Inc. > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [governance] Re: [Coalition] ICANN Meeting in Mexico > From: Ginger Paque <gpaque(a)gmail.com> > Date: Tue, February 10, 2009 1:34 pm > To: I G List <governance(a)lists.cpsr.org>, Public Voice > <coalition(a)mailman.thepublicvoice.org> > > I agree with Katitza, that we should be watching the development of the > proposed At Large summit at the upcoming ICANN meeting in Mexico. The > Summit objectives are: > > 4. Objectives > 4.1. An informed At-Large community that is better able to interact with > other ICANN constituencies, supporting organisations and advisory > committees. > 4.2. An informed At-Large community that clearly understands the issues > confronting ICANN and ICANN's roles and responsibilities therein. > 4.3. Increased involvement by At-Large in ICANN policy debate. > 4.4. An At-Large community that more clearly understands the global, rather > than merely regional, point of view on ICANN-related issues. > 4.5. A more engaged At-Large community that clearly understands the timing > and framework of various issues currently confronting ICANN > > Although I find one of the "Deliverables" to be even more interesting: > > 5.5. Work on a "Individual Internet Users" declaration. > > (Both of the above citations are from > https://st.icann.org/data/workspaces/summit-wg/attachments/documents:200802 >14104609-1-21013/original/14%2002%202008%20Summit%20proposal%20and%20budget. >pdf) > > Does anyone have more information on the "Individual Internet Users" > declaration? Any thoughts or opinions? > > Best, > Ginger Interesting – remembering the long history of discussions and decisions related to this field, I hope it will not ending in a dead end road because of a lack of clear definition of purpose – or better: of different purposes. Every person is also an "Individual Internet Users" – in addition to being a domain name seller, an ISP manager, a communications researcher etc. But until now, to focus on specific activities and concerns in ICANN, these "individuals" have found their place in the different "constituencies" according to specific task. Some individuals like myself found institutional and personal concerns well housed in the "Non-Commercial Users" constituency, other individuals have found their place within national At-Large structures, which are regionally clustered in RALOs, some individual businesspeople are in the "Commercial and Business Users" constituency of ICANN, etc. I am very much interested to know what a somewhat abstract "Individual Internet Users" declaration might be – if it is not a duplication of either the conceptual/functional or the national/regional groupings. In my understanding these relate on the one had to the existing constituencies, and on the other to the national and regional ALAC/RALO structures – but when it comes to "global, rather than merely regional, point of view on ICANN-related issues" I am at a loss to clearly understand what it means – I sounds a little bit like a douplication of ICANN. When the first round of an At-Large Users registration process was going on – up to the ICANN Accra meeting 2002, if I remember correctly, it was an unstructured global process: every individual Internet user can participate, and every individual Internet user can be a candidate to be voted into whatever offices to be created. It was as if all the US citizens would vote for the president, where every citizen could also be a presidential candidate - without any sub-structures, any parties, with their chapters, and no primaries. This would obviously lead nowhere – and so an effort of clarification of purpose started, which led to the present arrangements: conceptual/programmatic/operational concerns for institutions (and "Individual Internet Users" in them) found there place in the different ICANN constituencies, while the concerns of the "Individual Internet Users" with national and regional concerns organized themselves in the ALAC/RALO structures. This is my understanding, developed over the years. And this why I do not yet see how an "Individual Internet Users" structure would define its specificity – without ending up in the same spiral as it happened after Accra. So I am looking forward to how this this discussion develops. Norbert Klein -- If you want to know what is going on in Cambodia, please visit The Mirror, a regular review of the Cambodian language press in English. This is the latest weekly editorial: Not to Discuss Means Not to Clarify http://cambodiamirror.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/not-to-discuss-means-not-to-… (To read it, click on the line above.) 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HEAD OF CATTLE: HEAD OF CATTLE: in support to Sylvia
by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org Feb. 11, 2009

Feb. 11, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: HEAD OF CATTLE: HEAD OF CATTLE: in support to Sylvia From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Dear Jose Luis, I am flattered by your words and your support! My idea is to be the real representative of all the regions independent of any conflict. Luckily I dominate to the Spanish and the Portuguese (since I am translator of both languages) and I understand enough the English. I want to bring Alac-Icann for my wanted Brazil, but without neglecting to Andean region, neither to the Caribbean, nor to the South region. I want to be the representative of all LACRALO and to bring for our region one union and special growth. Very many thanks AEDIT for its vote of confidence! Warm greetings to all, Sylvia Herlein Leite -----Mensagem original Of: Jose Luis Barzallo [ mailto:joseluis@barzallo.com ] Shipment command post: quarta-feira, 11 of fevereiro of 2009 10:18 It stops: ' sylvia-internautabrasil'; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: in support to Sylvia Like participant of the performances of Syvia, the support of the AEDIT to his postulation for the ALAC. As Andean Community we remained without representative but I am sure that who represent to us in those positions by us they will respondstops all. It seems to me opportune that if we need the time for the voting we doit looking for own space within the days that we will be. We are sure that will represent to us with the quality and the desire that put to him always. Warm greetings, Jose Luis Barzallo AEDIT www.aedit.org.ec Columbus 535 and 6 of December. Edif. Cristóbal Columbus Of. 602 Telf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 Fax: 593 2 2564530 Email: joseluis(a)barzallo.com Quito Ecuador Original -----Mensaje Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of sylvia-internautabrasil Sent: Friday, 06 of February of 2009 13:49 It stops: ' Scott S Robinson'; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: in support to Sylvia Dear Scott: I really must to him confess that I am very proud of all manifestations of support that I have had until now. They are all very amiable! All this support does not do more than to say me than I was right whenaccepting postulation done by Antonio Medina and jeopardizes to me before all the region in order to represent them as LACRALO deserves. Very many thanks for its support and the vote of VINCULART, A.C., not them I will defraud! I take advantage of the occasion to send my greetings to the members of its ALS with hope to shortly see them all! Greetings, Sylvia _____ Of: Scott S Robinson [ mailto:ssr@laneta.apc.org ] Shipment command post: sixth-feira, 6 of fevereiro of 2009 11:59 It stops: Javier Red Chandía - President Internauta Chile; ' alberto sotó; ' sylvia-internautabrasil'; ' Antonio Medina Gómez'; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: in support to Sylvia Colleagues, The enthusiasm expressed in favor of the candidacy is impressive of Sylvia Herlein Leite and in name of VINCULART, A.C./Mexico desire to guarantee also its postulation to the position of our representative before LACRALO. It will have an immediate task during the next meeting of ICANN here in Mexico before the urgent challenge to lead and to coordinate multiple interests of the users of Internet in the region as opposed to powerful dominant commercial interests. In Mexico it gives pain us to be a classic case of this fenómenoa regional level. Scott S. Robinson VINCULART, A.C. and www.alconsumidor.org <http://www.alconsumidor.org/> AT 08:07 p.m. 05/02/2009, Javier Red Chandía - President Internauta Chile wrote: Considered and considered The greeting very affectionately and I indicate that Chile Internaut supports totally the candidacy of Sylvia. It has given responsibility samples, proximity, commitment and affection that make creditor of being ours representative. Kindly Javier Red Chandía Chile Internaut Original -----Mensaje Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] In name of alberto grove Sent: Thursday, 05 of February of 2009 14:16 It stops: sylvia-internautabrasil; ' Antonio Medina Gómez'; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Proposal of ACUI: Selection of LACRALO-ALAC representative To please the IIISI yet accompanies the proposal affirmativelyso that Sylvia Herlein Leite replaces to our friend Jose Ovid Salgueiro. We have the security of which he will be an excellent representative and it will continue with also excellent performance of Jose Ovid. Dr Alberto Grove Director IIISI www.ibero-americano.org <http://www.ibero-americano.org/> Original Message From: "sylvia-internautabrasil" <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> To: "' Antonio Medina Gómez'" <amedinagomez(a)gmail.com>; <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:06 P.m. Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Proposal of ACUI:Selection of LACRALO-ALAC representative Dear Antonio and colleagues of LACRALO: Your proposal is really an honor and the acceptance willingly! Be sure that if I am chosen, I will represent all organizations with much pride and I will defend to the region as she corresponds. The acceptance with the idea to make a good one will be a great responsibility but work for the region. Very many thanks! Sylvia Herlein Leite _____ Of: Antonio Medina Go'mez [ mailto:amedinagomez@gmail.com <mailto:amedinagomez@gmail.com> ] Shipment command post: fifth-feira, 5 of fevereiro of 2009 14:32 It stops: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Proposal of ACUI: Selection of the LACRALO-ALAC representative 5 of February of 2009 Dear colleagues, receive a warm and special greeting to name of Colombian association of Users of Internet. In agreement with the communication recently received, related to conclusion of the period of work of Jose Ovid Salgueiro like Representative of Lacralo-ALAC, is a great honor for ACUI, topresent/display proposal of postulation to this position to Sylvia Herlein Leite de Internauta Brazil. Its descatacas performances in different scopes and the work made by Sylvia in the latinoamerica region, is their letter of presentation stops to develop to cabalidad this task. I want to make an invitation warm, dear colleagues, so that they offerhis positive vote to the present proposal. Kindly Antonio Medina Go'mez President Colombian association of Users of Internet presidencia(a)acui.org.co amedinagomez(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/4ea98e242f.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] HEAD OF CATTLE: in support to Sylvia
by joseluis＠barzallo.com Feb. 11, 2009

Feb. 11, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: HEAD OF CATTLE: in support to Sylvia From: joseluis(a)barzallo.com Like participant of the performances of Syvia, the support of the AEDIT to his postulation for the ALAC. As Andean Community we remained without representative but I am sure that who represent to us in those positions by us they will respond stops all. It seems to me opportune that if we need the time for the voting we doit looking for own space within the days that we will be. We are sure that will represent to us with the quality and the desire that put to him always. Warm greetings, Jose Luis Barzallo AEDIT www.aedit.org.ec Columbus 535 and 6 of December. Edif. Cristóbal Columbus Of. 602 Telf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 Fax: 593 2 2564530 Email: joseluis(a)barzallo.com Quito Ecuador Original -----Mensaje Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of sylvia-internautabrasil Sent: Friday, 06 of February of 2009 13:49 It stops: ' Scott S Robinson'; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: in support to Sylvia Dear Scott: I really must to him confess that I am very proud of all manifestations of support that I have had until now. They are all very amiable! All this support does not do more than to say me than I was right whenaccepting postulation done by Antonio Medina and jeopardizes to me before all the region in order to represent them as LACRALO deserves. Very many thanks for its support and the vote of VINCULART, A.C., not them I will defraud! I take advantage of the occasion to send my greetings to the members of its ALS with hope to shortly see them all! Greetings, Sylvia _____ Of: Scott S Robinson [ mailto:ssr@laneta.apc.org ] Shipment command post: sixth-feira, 6 of fevereiro of 2009 11:59 It stops: Javier Red Chandía - President Internauta Chile; ' alberto sotó; ' sylvia-internautabrasil'; ' Antonio Medina Gómez'; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: in support to Sylvia Colleagues, The enthusiasm expressed in favor of the candidacy is impressive of Sylvia Herlein Leite and in name of VINCULART, A.C./Mexico desire to guarantee also its postulation to the position of our representative before LACRALO. It will have an immediate task during the next meeting of ICANN here in Mexico before the urgent challenge to lead and to coordinate multiple interests of the users of Internet in the region as opposed to powerful dominant commercial interests. In Mexico it gives pain us to be a classic case of this fenómenoa regional level. Scott S. Robinson VINCULART, A.C. and www.alconsumidor.org <http://www.alconsumidor.org/> AT 08:07 p.m. 05/02/2009, Javier Red Chandía - President Internauta Chile wrote: Considered and considered The greeting very affectionately and I indicate that Chile Internaut supports totally the candidacy of Sylvia. It has given responsibility samples, proximity, commitment and affection that make creditor of being ours representative. Kindly Javier Red Chandía Chile Internaut Original -----Mensaje Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] In name of alberto grove Sent: Thursday, 05 of February of 2009 14:16 It stops: sylvia-internautabrasil; ' Antonio Medina Gómez'; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Proposal of ACUI: Selection of LACRALO-ALAC representative To please the IIISI yet accompanies the proposal affirmativelyso that Sylvia Herlein Leite replaces to our friend Jose Ovid Salgueiro. We have the security of which he will be an excellent representative and it will continue with also excellent performance of Jose Ovid. Dr Alberto Grove Director IIISI www.ibero-americano.org <http://www.ibero-americano.org/> Original Message From: "sylvia-internautabrasil" <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> To: "' Antonio Medina Gómez'" <amedinagomez(a)gmail.com>; <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:06 P.m. Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Proposal of ACUI: Selection of LACRALO-ALAC representative Dear Antonio and colleagues of LACRALO: Your proposal is really an honor and the acceptance willingly! Be sure that if I am chosen, I will represent all organizations with much pride and I will defend to the region as she corresponds. The acceptance with the idea to make a good one will be a great responsibility but work for the region. Very many thanks! Sylvia Herlein Leite _____ Of: Antonio Medina Go'mez [ mailto:amedinagomez@gmail.com <mailto:amedinagomez@gmail.com> ] Shipment command post: fifth-feira, 5 of fevereiro of 2009 14:32 It stops: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Proposal of ACUI: Selection of the LACRALO-ALAC representative 5 of February of 2009 Dear colleagues, receive a warm and special greeting to name of Colombian association of Users of Internet. In agreement with the communication recently received, related to conclusion of the period of work of Jose Ovid Salgueiro like Representative of Lacralo-ALAC, is a great honor for ACUI, topresent/display proposal of postulation to this position to Sylvia Herlein Leite de Internauta Brazil. Its descatacas performances in different scopes and the work made by Sylvia in the latinoamerica region, is their letter of presentation stops to develop to cabalidad this task. I want to make an invitation warm, dear colleagues, so that they offerhis positive vote to the present proposal. Kindly Antonio Medina Go'mez President Colombian association of Users of Internet presidencia(a)acui.org.co amedinagomez(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/ded0925e16.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] a supply of the novel -- to the supply of lanovela
by presidencia＠internauta.org.ar Feb. 11, 2009

Feb. 11, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: a supply of the novel -- to the supply of lanovela From: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar My dear friend Sends, as you say well, yesterday nobody dear confronting, single is that he was the way as it were wanted to impose a candidate by on another one what I cause annoyances, in our region never step something thus, never nobody - by questions idiomáticas- was outside of being chosen not to speak the Ingles language, always to chosen thinking about the best thing for the group of which we are part. The Latins that we were there we are worried of which this transforms into policies of discrimination and qualification within ICANN, where single they have representation and they occupy definition places those that are English-speakers or do not find arrived at superior levels of education that finds to them allowed to learn but of a language, that you will include/understand it so that Dev Net works in subject of Digital Breach in favored sectors less, and you know that any man well of this planet can be representing of its pairs. I insist, this was not a problem inside of the ALS, if no, by outside we, cannot seat a precedent in ICANN thus, by the present that occupies to us and by the future of a true world-wide government of Internet. Sergio Saline I carry Original Message From: <lhinds(a)gol.net.gy> To: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:30 A.M. Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] a supply of the novel -- to the supply of lanovela > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Re: a supply of the novel -- to the supply of the novel > Of: lhinds(a)gol.net.gy > > is observed the suggestion of Jacqueline. Also I do not think that any person is > interested > in a confrontation. He is useful to observe that in the pastnevertheless > ALS of the Caribbean has voted by our Latin American colleagues was > hesitation, fear or favor. We could hope at the moment only to that one of us > would obtain a similar level of the consideration. > > Lanza, DevNet > > Original Message > Of: lac-discuss-in-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-in-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] Toname of > Jacqueline To Morris > Envoy: Tuesday, 10 of February Of 2009 9:40 P.M. >: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in ] a supply of the novel -- to the supply of > novel > > the easy way is to have 1 representative of the Caribbean and 1 of Latin America > (Spa! nish/Portuguese) always. So if we have 1 voted by of, > vote for the candidate of the Caribbean the next time. > My small contribution. > Jacqueline > Envoy of my device® without threads of the zarzamora available of bmobile. > > Original Message > Of: ssr(a)laneta.apc.org > > Date: Tue, The 10 Of February 2009 Of 17:01:18 >: <lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: [ lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in ] a supply of the novel --to laoferta of > novel > > > > [ [ - - translated text (is - >)--]] of in > > > Subject: a supply of the novel -- to the supply of the novel > Of: ssr(a)laneta.apc.org > > Colleagues, > > the point in the immediate horizon worries to me what on great circus ICANN > like another gratuitous confrontation between the representatives of users > in > Latin America and others in anglófona of the Caribbean of the region. > > As we can avoid this? We cannot make a mechanism > that avoids the imposition of the latinamericana of simple demographic m! ajority? > > For how we fitted the present rules of the ICANN ! regions or > to share the positions or to negotiate a rotation that satisfies to all? He > has > will of a to obtain it? > > > My translation -- nonmachine today, thanks! > > Colleagues, > > Ím talked about to us altar the change towards a gratuitousother andEnergy-sapping > American Latin of speech of the confrontation between the Spanish/Portuguese > FINE Members and those of the anglófonos countries of the Caribbean. > > Dog we avoided this? To the plows we able design to mecanismoque avoids > imposition of dominant the Latin states demographic? Alos plowed able we > fits, the present rules of the region of twist ICANN in a toeven share of > the direction > > or mechanism of the rotation with which we all the alive dog? We have will a > hooks > in this task? > > Scott S. Robinson > www.vinculart.org.mx > www.alconsumidor.org > www.uam-antropologia.info > Mexico, DF > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - original text (it is) > http://mm2.icann.or! g/transbot_archive/17f9dë'à.html > --]] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/93dbc4cc1b.html > --]] > > > > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/02a3faac80.html --]]

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a novel proposal -- to novel proposal
by ssr＠laneta.apc.org Feb. 11, 2009

Feb. 11, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: a novel proposal -- to novel proposal From: ssr(a)laneta.apc.org Colleagues, Dot in the immediate horizon worries to me what about Great Circus ICANN like another gratuitous confrontation between the representatives of users in Latin America and others in the Caribbean region anglófona. As we can avoid this? We cannot make a mechanism that it avoids the latinamericana imposition by simple demographic majority? How we fit the present rules of the regions of ICANN for or to share the positions or to negotiate a rotation that satisfies to all? It has a will to obtain it? My translation -- not machine today, thank you! Colleagues, Ím concerned we plows moving toward to another gratuitous andEnergy-sapping confrontation speaking Latin American between the Spanish/Portuguese THIN members and those from the Anglophone Caribbean countries. Dog we avoid this? To plows we able design to mechanism that avoids the imposition of the demographically dominant Latin states? To plows we able adjust, the even twist current ICANN region rules into to leadership sharing or rotation mechanism that we all dog live with? Do we have the will to engage in this task? Scott S. Robinson www.vinculart.org.mx www.alconsumidor.org www.uam-antropologia.info Mexico, DF _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/17f9d53e2a.html --]]

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Fwd: Feria de las ALS - material promocional e instrucciones - translated from English
by Carlton Samuels Feb. 11, 2009

Feb. 11, 2009

Dear Colleagues: Please discard the previous mail and see the *revised* mail and the attachment on the poster competition. Our apologies. Carlton Samuels LACRALO Secretariat =============================================================== Estimados/as participantes, El siguiente mensaje procura informárles sobre el desarrollo de la sesión prevista en la cumbre de Méjico, cuya sesión se títula 'Feria de muestra de las ALS - los stands y la presentación de carteles' y está programada para el sábado 28 de febrero de 2009 entre las 19 :30 y las 21 :30. Más información sobre esto en el anexo. Sin embargo, quisiera sobrayar algunos aspectos esenciales: !Uds son los que van a organizar y dirigir esta sesión para hacer del evento un éxito! Se trata de ilustrar la variedad presente en las ALS y en las RALO de la comunidad. Uds van a representar al organismo que les ha nombrado para su representación en la cumbre, utilizando para ello, los folletos, catálogos y carteles de sus ALS, de modo interactivo. Como se desprende del título de esta sesión, no se trata de una reunión formal ou de una sesión con un tema específico sino de una feria en la cual cada uno expone el trabjo que su ALS desencadena en sus actividades. día tras día. Se tendrá lugar un breve discurso de apertura a la feria. Luego, Uds podrán presentar su documentación al público y discutir con los visitantes del mundo entero. Es un acontecimiento amical en el que los unos y los otros aprenderán a conocerse e intercambiarán sus experiencias. También servirá para ampliar su red de contactos e intercambiar datos. Este evento, en fin, es importantísimo para ampliar la red de las ALS de las RALO y para que aprovechemos la ocasión que nos ofrece esta primera cumbre At-Large/ICANN de los usuarios individuales de Internet (mas información sobre esto en el anejo). Por lo tanto, les invito a llevar consigo todo lo que les parezca de interés (sin embargo, no está previsto reembolsar los gastos por exceso de peso del equipaje – el límite de peso del equipaje es de 20 kilos J) Necesitamos saber cuanto antes necesitarán un material técnico específico (ademas de lo previsto y detallado en el anexo) para sus presenctaciones durante esta feria. Las mesas, los tablones de anuncios para colgar los carteles y otro material standard serán ya a su disposición. Cualquier requisito suplementario en cuanto al material técnico debe llégarme antes del 11 de febrero a lo más tarde (de este modo, podré transméterselo al equipo encargado con la preparación del soporte técnico en nuestra cumbre) Nos da mucha ilusión poder encóntrarnos otra vez con Uds en México Muy atentamente, W Ludwig

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Feria_de_las_ALS_-_instrucciones _ = =?iso-8859-1?q?materiales_del_promocionale_-_traducido_de_ingl=E9s =
by staff＠atlarge.icann.org Feb. 10, 2009

Feb. 10, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Feria_de_las_ALS_-_instrucciones _ = =?iso-8859-1?q?materiales_del_promocionale_-_traducido_de_ingl=E9s = From: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Considered, Nótanse please that ³Feria of sample of the ALS² will be Sunday, day one of March instead of Saturday. Sincerely, Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White, Marie-Helene Bouchoms ICANN AT-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org On 10/02/2009 22:12, "carlton.samuels(a)uwimona.edu.jm" <carlton.samuels(a)uwimona.edu.jm> wrote: > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Fwd: Fair of the ALS - material instructions of promocionale - > translated of English > Of: carlton.samuels(a)uwimona.edu.jm > > Dear Colleagues: > Deseche please the previous mail and sees * reviewed * the mail and > connection in the competition of the poster. Our vindications. > > Carlton Samuels > Secretariat of LACRALO > =============================================================== > > Participant of Estimados/as, > > On the development of the session of informing them to them into tries of the message > of the following one of > summit of Mexico, fair of sample of of the the one of in of the anticipated one of títula > of of the session of whose ' > the ALS - they are stopped them the programmed paragraph of is of and of and > presentation of posters > Saturday of the 28 the 2009 of between of of February of 19 the 21 de:30 y:30. > > Annexed of THE ONE of in of the this of on of the information o! f More. Embargo of > sin, wanted to sobrayar > essential of the aspects of some: > > van of which of those of the son of los!Uds a session to organize paragraph > to do of the event of this of directing of and > success of! > > to illustrate It of the THIN one of of in of the ALS and of in of the present of > variety of the the one of the one of of deals with > community. Van of You his to represent of paragraphs delnombrado of is it > of them of which of the organism of the a > summit of the the one of in of the representation, it of paragraphs of using, > pamphlets of, catalogues and > posters of its ALS, interactive of of way. > > > > Session of this of As it is come off the title of, no reuniónde treats > of one > the formal one of in of the fair of specific but of one of temadel of with > of the session of ou of one as > day of the its activities of in of triggers of the its ALS of which of trabjo > of THE ONE of exposes of the one of each > day of after. Speech o! f opening will have a brief place of to the fair > of. Soon, >! to pres ent/display will be able Them of with of discussing of the public and the a the one of > documentation of his of You > whole of visitors of the world. A amical of those of quedel THE ONE of in > of the event of Is > experiences will interchange will learn of his of knowing themselves and the others > of those of and. > Data to interchange red of of contacts and his extending of párrafosdel > will serve as Also. This > event, fin of in, red the THIN one of of the ALS of of extending it of > paragraphs of the most important one of is > summit of first of this of offers of which no. of the occasion of the the one of > we take advantage of which of and paragraph > Individual of Internet (information of AT-Large/ICANN of theusers of > but > attached of THE ONE of in of the this of on). > > As much under By, I invite of them that under seem to them of interest of > everything to take of with himself > (embargo of the sin, none of reimbursing of by excess of weight of the expenses! > of those of the anticipated one of is > luggage - luggage is of of the one of the one of the limit of weight 20 kilos of J) > > > > Specific material will need the technician of of before the whatever of > saber of We needed > (annexed low of THE ONE of in of the detailed one of the predicted one and of the one of of ademas) > presenctaciones of his of paragraphs > fair of this of during. Tables of, to hang them of planks of > announcements paragraph > already will be standard material of the other of the posters and a disposition of his. > Nobody > before material of llégar me of must of the technician of the a the one of the whatever of in > of the additional one of the requirement > of the 11 of February late under the pluses (a way of of this, to the one of > to transméter it to it of I will be able > summit of ours of in of the technician of the preparation of the support of with > of the one in charge of the equipment) > > In Mexico of You of with of the time o! f the other of encóntrar to us of the power of > illusion of t! he much of gives of No. > > Kindly of Very, > > > > W Ludwig > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/06e4630ê1.html > --]] > > > > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/74bc35e762.html --]]

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Fwd: Feria de las ALS - material promocional e instrucciones - translated from English
by Carlton Samuels Feb. 10, 2009

Feb. 10, 2009

Dear All: For your advice and response to the Summit WG. Carlton Samuels LACRALO Secretariat =============================================================================== Estimados/as participantes, El siguiente mensaje procura informárles sobre el desarrollo de la sesión prevista en la cumbre de Méjico, cuya sesión se títula 'Feria de muestra de las ALS - los stands y la presentación de carteles' y está programada para el sábado 28 de febrero de 2009 entre las 19 :30 y las 21 :30. Más información sobre esto en el anexo. Sin embargo, quisiera sobrayar algunos aspectos esenciales: !Uds son los que van a organizar y dirigir esta sesión para hacer del evento un éxito! Se trata de ilustrar la variedad presente en las ALS y en las RALO de la comunidad. Uds van a representar al organismo que les ha nombrado para su representación en la cumbre, utilizando para ello, los folletos, catálogos y carteles de sus ALS, de modo interactivo. Como se desprende del título de esta sesión, no se trata de una reunión formal ou de una sesión con un tema específico sino de una feria en la cual cada uno expone el trabjo que su ALS desencadena en sus actividades. día tras día. Se tendrá lugar un breve discurso de apertura a la feria. Luego, Uds podrán presentar su documentación al público y discutir con los visitantes del mundo entero. Es un acontecimiento amical en el que los unos y los otros aprenderán a conocerse e intercambiarán sus experiencias. También servirá para ampliar su red de contactos e intercambiar datos. Este evento, en fin, es importantísimo para ampliar la red de las ALS de las RALO y para que aprovechemos la ocasión que nos ofrece esta primera cumbre At-Large/ICANN de los usuarios individuales de Internet (mas información sobre esto en el anejo). Por lo tanto, les invito a llevar consigo todo lo que les parezca de interés (sin embargo, no está previsto reembolsar los gastos por exceso de peso del equipaje – el límite de peso del equipaje es de 20 kilos J) Necesitamos saber cuanto antes necesitarán un material técnico específico (ademas de lo previsto y detallado en el anexo) para sus presenctaciones durante esta feria. Las mesas, los tablones de anuncios para colgar los carteles y otro material standard serán ya a su disposición. Cualquier requisito suplementario en cuanto al material técnico debe llégarme antes del 11 de febrero a lo más tarde (de este modo, podré transméterselo al equipo encargado con la preparación del soporte técnico en nuestra cumbre) Nos da mucha ilusión poder encóntrarnos otra vez con Uds en México Muy atentamente, W Ludwig

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