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Re: [lac-discuss-en] REMINDER: Teleconferencing of LACRALO: Thursday, Of The 22 UTC Of April 21:00
by joseluis＠barzallo.com April 21, 2010

April 21, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: REMINDER: Teleconferencing of LACRALO: Thursday, Of The 22 UTC Of April 21:00 From: joseluis(a)barzallo.com Dear Matthias Please confírmame if my direction in the list is working well because the messages have not arrived them that I sent. Health AEDIT www.aedit.org.ec Columbus 535 and 6 of December. Edif. Cristóbal Columbus Of. 602 Telf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 Fax: 593 2 2564530 Email: joseluis(a)barzallo.com Quito Ecuador Original -----Mensaje Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Sent: Monday, 19 of April of 2010 21:49 It stops: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: ICANN AT-Large Staff Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] REMINDER: Teleconferencing of LACRALO: Thursday, Of The 22 UTC Of April 21:00 [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] Subject: REMINDER: Teleconferencing of LACRALO: Thursday, Of The 22 UTC Of April 21:00 Of: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Wanted All, Comfortable reminder that the following teleconferencing of LACRALO to program for Thursday, the 22 of April of 2010 in the 21:00 UTC. The agenda (to be bought up to date) and the details of the call can to find in: https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?22_april_2010 If you cannot take care of the call she please sends an email that she indicates its absence and we will observe this information on laagenda. If you it please requires a dial-out between in contact with En-Grande provide with personnel in: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. -- Respect, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-Blanco, Marilyn Vernon, Kristina NordstrÃ¶m En-Grande personnel of ICANN email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Web site: www.atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ [ [ - - Original text (in) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/e7f36Ãª36b.html --]] _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/5c6541ad41.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ccTLD CO
by jumaropi＠yahoo.com April 20, 2010

April 20, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: ccTLD CO From: jumaropi(a)yahoo.com Dear Erick Iriarte, Kind to its mail of dÃa of the date maintaining the following thing: âEl day of ccTLD co gave yesterday answer to this post of Ageia Densi. The message was published and soon it was borradoâ. It wanted to inform to him to you and to Mr. Eduardo Santoyo cÃ³mo works blog of Ageia Densi Colombia, and in general, great part of blogs. When a person does commentary to post, in subject ours blog estÃ to moderaciÃ³n of administrators (mainly comÃºn of people makes to avoid that messages posteen type Spam). Therefore when a visitor does commentary writes it, sees message that finishes writing but generally usually it leaves a legend type: âSu published sera commentary in breveâ. This was what sucediÃ³ with the commentary of Mr.. Eduardo Santoyo of dÃa of yesterday. ReciÃ©n at these same moments administrator estÃ reviewing the ndolos commentaries and publicÃ, to ALL. Ageia Densi Colombia defends the freedom of expresiÃ³n and the democracy in all its forms. Let us think that the bestway to grow and to construct as community is the diversity of opinions, specially when they are different from ours, because we are convinced that sÃ³lo from the diversity we can generate debate and from Ã©l, construct consensus. We were sorry from Ageia Densi Colombia that you have hurried to draw conclusions without before corroborating cÃ³mo happened really the facts. RED JUAN MANUEL P AGEIA DENSI Colombia ________________________________ Of: Erick Iriarte Ahon <eiriarte(a)alfa-redi.org> It stops: Juan Red Manuel <jumaropi(a)yahoo.com> CC: LACRALO EspaÃÂ±ol <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Envoy: sea, April 20, 2010 11:20:54 A.M. Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] ccTLD CO Hello to all The day of ccTLD co gave answer yesterday this post of Ageia Densi. The message was published and soon it was erased. The democracy is based on the unrestricted respect of the ideas of all, those that we do not like, thus we even are against any form of censorship in any form. But we copied aqui the answer of ccTLD co, like respect to the local and global community of Internet, and as a respect to the democraticosprocesses without censorship. beginning of message Some imprecisiones and absences to the truth in artÃÂculo published. PreocupaciÃÂ³n is mentioned reason why comodÃÂnÃ¢ÂÂ can be Ã¢ÂÂdominio and a vague and errÃÂ³nea argumental lÃÂnea is developed that suggests to illegal contributor one conclusiÃÂ³n to him on the subject. Certainly preocupaciÃÂ³n of the IANA, the ICANN, the MINTIC and CO Internet is one in which it could have represented the use of prÃ ctica of the Ã¢ÂÂWILDCARDÃ¢ÂÂ or well-known©tambiÃ n like of Ã¢ÂÂcomodÃÂnÃ¢ÂÂ in the space of CO. In effect these preoccupations cameto the light, first in the pÃÂºblica process of discusiÃÂ³n of the polÃÂtica and the process of contrataciÃÂ³n advanced by the MINTIC, andwere express object of manifestations on the part of ALL the agents before mentioned, leaving sure which we from a habÃÂamos principle same saying, which they are not podrÃÂan to execute prÃ cticas of Ã¢ÂÂcomodÃÂnÃ¢ÂÂ in ccTLD CO. Important MÃ s aÃÂºn is the following commentary of the contributor: Ã¢ÂÂAsÃÂ same, this process and new reality, already comenzÃÂ³ to being exploded commercially, without considering the voice of Colombia, its inhabitants and end users of Internet.Ã¢ÂÂ The recent thing of creaciÃÂ³n of asociaciÃÂ³n that sponsors artÃÂculo (April of 2010), or the absence of participaciÃÂ³n in the pÃÂºblicas and institutionalized activities of debate on the part of some, did not have to justify its ignorance on the development of the managements that in a pÃÂºblico process that tomÃÂ³ mÃ s of 10 aÃÂ±os, and equally pÃÂºblica way, served the National Government to define themodel of operations, the polÃÂticas of administraciÃÂ³n and selecciÃÂ³n of the organization in charge of administraciÃÂ³n. InformaciÃÂ³n on the process estÃ available in Internet for that wants it to consult in http://www.mintic.gov.co/mincom/faces/index.jsp?id=1279. Like conclusiÃÂ³n of all the process, we called atenciÃÂ³n in the saying allÃÂ to this pÃ rrafo in special: Ã¢ÂÂEl Ministry mantendrÃ under its responsibility definiciÃÂ³n of polÃÂtica, the activities of control and monitoring of recurso.co. Theattractive Domino.co serÃ for the registry, specially of compaÃÂ±ÃÂas at world-wide level, since recordaciÃÂ³n facilitates his, crucial element in the trade to travÃ©s of Internet and authorizes the registry of names of a way brief mÃ s. That is to say, a dominion namethat is today registered under a third level (empresa.com.co) in the future podrÃ to be registered in second level (empresa.co)Ã¢ÂÂ It consequently seems important to make a call to the care of the truth, the study of the concepts and the prudence of affirmations that they disinform to the national and international community of Internet. Thanks. Eduardo Santoyo VP, ccTLD Manager CO Internet SAS aim of the message Erick Iriarte Ahon General Manager - LACTLD http://www.lactld.org The 19/04/2010, to 09:10, Juan Red Manuel escribiÃÂ³: > Good days to all... > Envio the text of declaraciÃÂ³n on the part of AD Colombia. > > ccTLD co > and preocupaciÃÂ³n of Ageia Densi Colombia > > SegÃÂºn > parÃ meters of the in agreement norm of estandarizaciÃÂ³n ISO3166 and > to legislaciÃÂ³n domÃ©stica Colombian, like Law 1341 of 2009, and the ResoluciÃÂ³n > 1652 of 2008, to Colombia is identified to him territoriallyin the cyberspace > with ccTLD (Country Code Top Level Domain): co, Ageia Densi Colombia sees with distrust that this dominion is transformed into > Ã¢ÂÂdominio comodÃÂnÃ¢ÂÂ. GlobalizaciÃÂ³n of the different local commercial activities > is sÃÂ³lo permissible if acompaÃÂ±a of one Ã¢ÂÂnormalizaciÃÂ³nÃ¢ÂÂ that it integrates all > activities of the productive chain. Apparently economÃÂa of market can > mÃ s that good sense. > > That distant discusiÃÂ³n on the possibility of > that CO stopped being sÃÂ³lo territorial to become commercialis already one > inescapable certainty. ! The warnings of IANA (Internet Assigned were not enough > Numbers Authority) in its report of November of the 2009 on the dangers of > said comercializaciÃÂ³n. At this moment they exist around 50 paÃÂses that > tries to reserve to the dominion CO in registries of names that wish to use it > for commercial and related activities. > > TambiÃ©n exists trade studies that say > with pride that 75% of the people relate co to CompaÃÂ±ÃÂa or > CorporaciÃÂ³n and with other types of commercial activities. Ageia Densi Colombia > asks Ã cuÃ l interÃ©s > pÃÂºblico talks about the Ministry of TecnologÃÂas of the InformaciÃÂ³n and > Communications TIC, respect to the dominion co? > > Like > before we wrote down, IANA, has seÃÂ±alado, although not the ÃÂºnico, one of the great ones > risks in liberalizaciÃÂ³n of the Dominion co is Captura of dominions > nonexistent by substituciÃÂ³n, which is explained in the similarity between > dominions com and co. This s! ituaciÃÂ³n takes shape enough inthe possibility > real, of Ã¢! ÂÂescr ibirÃ¢ÂÂ directions registered in com but nonexistent in > co which serÃ taken advantage of by true Ã¢ÂÂpiratasÃ¢ÂÂ electrÃÂ³nicos stops > to redirigir this trÃ fico towards pÃ ginas of his interÃ©s. SegÃÂºn the company that > administers the dominion, Co Internet SAS, expresÃÂ³ his posiciÃÂ³n in recognizing that > the possibility of explotaciÃÂ³n of the dominion co like comodÃÂn was detrimental and > exponÃÂa negative consequences for the security and stability of the same one. > So posiciÃÂ³n is endorsed with expresiÃÂ³n of which proveerÃ n its greater effort > in implementaciÃÂ³n of good prÃ cticas international to avoid that such > situations appear. > > Existe > one narrows relaciÃÂ³n between the names of dominion and pÃÂºblico©interÃ s. Said > relaciÃÂ³n passes to be much important and significant mÃ s that a mere one > consagraciÃÂ³n state, that in the Colombian case adquiriÃÂ³ relevance in Ã mbitos > acadÃ©micos and th! at now returns to the arena, at moments in which its opening > widely indicates the imminence of materializaciÃÂ³n of a previous risk and > announced. > Ageia > Densi Colombia sees with preocupaciÃÂ³n that documents published by > Ministry TIC very little serves and much except the paper that is observed of > Advisory Advice for the AdministraciÃÂ³n of the Dominion co in definiciÃÂ³n of > parÃ meters of regulaciÃÂ³n. The possibility of arguing to favor or against > teorÃÂas as the Digital SoberanÃÂa and the complexity of the handling of resources like > ccTLDs, happens to background before prominent cases like the one of the dominion > tv. Other examples abounds by montÃÂ³n and seems to watch great polÃ©micas in > the case of co although many > wants to see it like great opportunities of business. > > Ageia > Densi Colombia estudiarÃ the true impact of decisiÃÂ³n to liberalize > dominion co at global level; what promises to be a possibility without pre! cedents > in the Network of Networks, can be in one situaciÃÂ! ³n confl icting and with serious > consequences for Colombia, specially as far as its SoberanÃÂa, to which > previous experiences in situations > particular does not report the best one to him of the auguries. > > AsÃÂ > same, this process and new reality, already comenzÃÂ³ to being exploded > commercially, without considering the voice of Colombia, its inhabitants and > end users of Internet. Ã¢ÂÂindependenciaÃ¢ÂÂ in administraciÃÂ³n of this > resource, is not seen but like an aspect that concerns a single company > prevailed. As he is frequent in Colombia, this type of decisions is banalizan to > to pass anÃ lisis of vital situations like this, by interÃ©s (egoÃÂsta) > of the turn governor. SucediÃÂ³ in the past (Licenses to MÃÂ³viles Operators) > happens and seguirÃ now happening in a future. > > RED JUAN MANUEL P > AGEIA DENSI Colombia > > -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > mQGiBD8OdRwRBACEr0/NPA88qp8f6KyIMMveLQ1FOuL! i0aDQDPybG7u1nrBoi3VI > tSRyfYcdExVxWQjTGd9qbShzXBw2DsxjA6YjiGzWKpVcqtj9uUDpSlylBaoadUzu > Sf3rÃkOHR2QJeC+9vÃ¬l30xy5XLMxDRbQYaSmfÃ»wTlIOUWNn118KpdawCgoNny > p4DR9EvRgCmY5z6IKHA2WscD/AhAKDVHCIAoZHzSB/puNOuVUSKRbIWNAqUAYosz > GRzYWb8O/3Ja4fNbÃMQ1gIsEcnUJFHnzID3pTjqWyiCId/NSX3fLuQxZHZE9n8P > PqlZIvqMrOfCT0RJQa0zTFcrgepnmnHLj7qmtXQZm+YkTvlihOZNtVA4JNzrxDrQ > egkqA/4hr0LezNJfkUhWnbW604p7AmmKK7Hi/ZixAfnxN0adgnV7oC3Q4VMÃ¥BÃ¬ > gReSuifluHiaJmf/WsA3KH4bdyLRbagz6dOPkXY8bQKy9yRxQzÃžYwudlluYoZXe > gSQI2Jle9UÃNefaÃžuvVlsB0he1qzF6VzHXAXpLsANt5smDh7Q0Q0EgQ2VydCBT > aWduaW5nIEF1dGhvcml0eSAoUm9vdCBDQSkgPGdwZ0BjYWNlcnQub3JnPohfBBMR > AgAfBQI/DnUcBQk4ZAkABAsHAwIDFQIDAxYCAQIeAQIXgAAKCRDSuw0BZdD9WEFX > AJ9C6WBcYfTYw1uvZ+N85TPGG5PMKQCcCM1tyULC5J6pfwevywS6cEwfagWÃg0E > Pw51MBAIANUbl1u0j+mnVJk1fKbJ+Ul6SAYpNtordfgrgrmlnOhMCFcROrCzsaaI > 1ehohxMbTnIj0RP0g/KotahAurqB98qzHIxXZMEJSzBEÃCNvlIXqUyT1jwhAUN6 > e71s084Lml84gD4cIr7+2YtwIu+6zrE+YdjfMT1NibM3vmiXaknrkÃ¢ADb02ZSÃ > iDeRstUO5PG7qVgÃ»mR0HZJÃk! 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Gustaria me to have a A! CUI position on the subject in the list. Not to see worries it to me. > > In the profile of Antonio Medina in Facebook I saw that subio a video recently and abstracts it in pantallazo. Sera this the ACUI position? > > http://twitpic.com/1gpeat > > Serious good for knowing it > > Greetings, > > Andres Piazza > > > From: joseluis(a)barzallo.com > > To: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] ccTLD CO > > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:01:42 -0500 > > > > Considered > > > > Our Antonio friend can help us with its commentaries fromits ÃÂ³ptica > > of Colombian user front to which it happens. > > > > gives a Antonio hand please Us? > > > > warm Greetings, > > > > JosÃ© Luis > > > > AEDIT > > www.aedit.org.ec > > > > ColÃÂ³n 535 and 6 of December. > > Edif. CristÃÂ³bal ColÃÂ³n Of. 602 > > Telf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 > > Fax: 59! 3 2 2564530 > > email: joseluis(a)barzallo.com > > Exempt ! Ecuador > > > > original -----Mensaje > > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of Andres > > Piazza > > Sent: Thursday, 08 of April of 2010 14:15 > > For: LACRALO EspaÃÂ±ol > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] ccTLD CO > > > > > > > > Considered, > > Something we talked in the teleconferencing passed about ccTLD CO and many > > of us we expressed ourselves on the individual. > > > > Aprovecho to copy aqui a chain of the ready Internet Governance > > Cactus. > > > > Hay to read the post office of down upwards following theThread. > > > > I must say that opinion of Carlos Afonso identifies to me. > > > > Greetings, > > > > Andres Piazza > > > > Forwarded message > > From: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa(a)gmail.com> > > > > Date: 2010/4/8 > > Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs > > To: govern! ance(a)lists.cpsr.org, David Goldstein > > <goldstein_david(a)yahoo.com.au> > > > > > > > > This may be interesting to many ace it dog serve ace marries study from the > > > > developing world: > > > > > > > > There plows many ccTLD disparities prevalent in the developing world. > > > > For example in the marries of Pakistan, the official ccTLD for pk was > > > > given in the Time of IANA to to Pakistani based in the U.S. who there are now > > > > eats back to Pakistan. The ccTLD www.pknic.net.pk was to under an IANA > > > > allocation and wasn't shifted to the new ICANN contracting. For a > > > > country of 170 million extra population the following plows the domain > > > > registration stats where only 29557 domains have been registered: > > > > > > > > stats for PKNIC > > > > 2010-04-07: > > > > domains: 29557 > > > > nameservers: 1179 > > > > > > ! > > There is to consumer in-confidence in PKNIC, people pl! owsreluc tant to take > > > > over-priced domains from PKNIC. PKNIC only registers domains for a > > > > period of two years for $25 to domain whereas to TLD for dog be acquired > > > > only $16 for two years. Each Time the debates on decentralization of > > > > PKNIC you eat up, PKNIC there are connection in the high up you please and is > > > > easily able to revoke such efforts. > > > > > > > > When we started raising these issues, PKNIC invited and included some > > > > of our Civil Society members to its board of advisers andthe members > > > > fell for it and felt under honoured to be included in theboard that they > > > > forgot what the present Internet Governance problems were. They still > > > > continue to participate in the IGC but plows prone to PKNIC interests > > > > which of course is to very big drawback. > > > > > > > > PKNIC there are occasionally broken down in its ! service with outages > > > > sometimes to over weeks. Our CS members have started gaining certain > > > > interests local from PKNIC which were publicly questionedby both the > > > > and international communities visible ace publicly here: > > > > http://public.icann.org/node/343. > > > > > > > > PKNIC's monopoly cannot be broken through to public-private partnership > > > > between civil society, academy, private sector and govt > > > > to multistakeholder collaboration. The result is that people plows dwells > > > > oriented to acquire TLD domains ace to per today the total TLD domains in > > > > the country stand AT approximately: > > > > > > > > Total Domains in Pakistan: 41,380 > > > > (Source:http://www.webhosting.info/registries/country_stats/PK) > > > > > > > > IF we look AT our neighbouring country India, to their ccTLD runs ace a > > > > to multistake! holder partnership due to which they have dwells than half a >! > > > million local domains. Similarly to their TLD registrations plows also AT > > > > the same to number: > > > > Total Domains in India: 559,213 > > > > (Source:http://www.webhosting.info/registries/country_stats/IN) > > > > > > > > This clearly shows that allowing ccTLD's to monopolize totheir positions > > > > in the country effect the citizens of those countries in the following > > > > ways: > > > > > > > > 1. Control not to over ccTLD monopolies > > > > 2. Access low-cost ccTLD > > > > 3. Have to buy dwells TLD instead of ccTLD > > > > 4. Less to consumer choices > > > > 5. Cost of entry to Internet/Web too high > > > > 6. Local Lesser opportunities for initiative growth (withrespect to > > > > building local online activities backed by local domains) > > > > 7. Threat to IDNs and GTLD operations when the same ccTLDoperator dog > > > > influence go! vt and to other groups to host to their GLTDs/IDNs to under the > > > > same infrastructure. > > > > > > > > Such monopolies have to be broken otherwise ICANN will only be > > > > benefiting to handful. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Fouad Bajwa > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 AT 4:37 A.M., David Goldstein > > > > <goldstein_david(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > Carlos, > > > > > > > > > > Any to register that registers DE domain names dog provide an address, even > > if for registrars outside Germany this dog be to headache. Nominet you have no > > restrictions I a.m. aware of. AuDA there are restrictionsthat say for com.au > > addresses the person or organisation must have an Australian business to number > > from the tax office and the name must have some relationship with to their > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > And w! hen there plows to over 13 million domains, such ace DE and to! over 8 million > > (UK) it * IS * much to harder to get your preferred Domain Name than say, if > > there plows to over one million (AU and CA). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Original Message > > > > > From: Carlos To Afonso <ca(a)cafonso.ca> > > > > > To: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org; David Goldstein > > <goldstein_david(a)yahoo.com.au> > > > > > Sent: Wed, 7 April, 2010 10:58:41 P.m. > > > > > Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs > > > > > > > > > > David, some additional comments below. > > > > > > > > > > -- c.a. > > > > > > > > > > David Goldstein wrote: > > > > > > Carlos ET to, > > > > > [... ] > > > > > > for Some have to requirement to the premises contact ace part of the > >! > > > > registration process, but this is often easily provided by a > > > > > > to register. And the given that world's to number oneccTLD and probably > > > > > > to number 2 ccTLD, DE and UK respectively, allow people from around > > > > > > the world to to register domain names in their ccTLDsand the world > > > > > > hasn't fails in, then it's not too big to problem. > > > > > > > > > > Not sure about any restrictions in Nominet (could not find specific > > > > > policy requirements in their Web site), but DENIC requires to legal > > > > > German address: "It is possible for individuals or institutions (that > > > > > have legal capacity) not located in Germany to to register de domains. > > > > > There is, to however, to condition, namely that they must appoint an > > > > > administrative contact who is resident in Germany and who you h! ave to postcard > > > > > possible address AT which ! it is to serve documents (i.e. not to mere P.O. > > > > > box). The administrative contact is then also the person formally > > > > > authorized by the domain to holder to receive service of official or court > > > > > documents (ZustellungsbevollmÃÂ€chtigter) within the meaning of the German > > > > > Code of Civil Procedure (Zivilprozessordnung) and the German Code of > > > > > Criminal Procedure (Strafprozessordnung). For The reason this measure is > > > > > to ensure that if any party there are to legal claim topursue, it is not made > > > > > dwells difficult for them by having to serve official or court documents > > > > > in another country, which is often to long, drawn-out process." > > > > > > > > > > Not sure about AuDA to either, but CIRA (Canada) does require proof of > > > > > legal Canadian citizenship or to address in Canada. > > > > > > > > ! > > > The main issue I see is that by opening up the ccTLD means it is > > > > > > to harder for residents to get to their own ccTLD domain. > > > > > > > > > > Not sure about this. Is think it might even become to easier, although they > > > > > will have to is incumbent on for certain addresses withglobal registrants. My > > > > > point is that this "internationalization" just to make money defeats the > > > > > original purpose of having ccTLDs national ace the realm of identities in > > > > > the Domain Name System. Otherwise, let U.S. all join GNSO:) > > > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > > > -- c.a. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Original Message From: Carlos To Afonso <ca(a)cafonso.ca> > ! > > > > > To: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org; McTim <d! ogwallah @gmail.com> Sent: Wed, > > > > > > 7 April, 2010 9:11:35 P.m. Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi McTim, I dog start by saying: cheap and quick way to get to gTLD... > > > > > >:) There is to business group which convinces to community (or to their > > > > > > government, ace I think Colombians have not had the opportunity to > > > > > > properly and widely debates this) that to their national identity on the > > > > > > Internet is not to longer relevant and let you take to over and convert > > > > > > to their ccTLD into to commodity for the international domain market. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the marries of Colombia, it is clears strange. It is to country with 44 > > > > > > million people, relatively high HDI and the third largest South > > > > > > A! merican economy -- hard to see how this is going to generate any > > > > > > significant amount of money to benefit Colombia -- this is Officers' Club of Revolutionary Armed Forces from > > > > > > being Tuvalu. On the to other hand, given the size ofthe economy and > > > > > > Internet penetration in the country, it is hard to see how a > > > > > > non-profit self-sustainable operation to keep to their ccTLD in the > > > > > > national commons would not succeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > But this is my view and I a.m. not to Colombian (justto Latin American), > > > > > > under... But it makes me sad to know that xyz.co not to longer points to a > > > > > > Colombian Internet space. > > > > > > > > > > > > frt rgds > > > > > > > > > > > > -- c.a. > > > > > > > > > > > > McTim wrot! e: > > >>>>> http://www.cointernet.co/ > > ! >>&g t;>> > > >>>>> Do we have any thing to say on this? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> This type of thing would be to fruitful workshop topic IMO. > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Carlos To Afonso > > > > > CGI.br (www.cgi.br) > > > > > Nupef (www.nupef.org.br) > > > > > ==================================== > > > > > new/nuevo/novo email: ca(a)cafonso.ca > > > > > ==================================== > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > You received this message ace to subscriber on the list: > > > > governance(a)lists.cpsr.org > > > > To be you remove from the list, send any message to: > > > > governance-unsubscribe(a)lists.cpsr.org > > > > > > > > For all list information and ! functions, see: > > > > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > > > > > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists > > icann.org > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-list… > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann! .org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-dis! cuss-es_ atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/002e7f83b0.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ccTLD CO
by eiriarte＠alfa-redi.org April 20, 2010

April 20, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: ccTLD CO From: eiriarte(a)alfa-redi.org Hello to all The day of ccTLD co gave answer yesterday this post of Ageia Densi. The message was published and soon it was erased. The democracy is based on the unrestricted respect of the ideas of all, those that we do not like, thus we even are against any form of censorship in any form. But we copied aqui the answer of ccTLD co, like respect to the local and global community of Internet, and as a respect to the democraticosprocesses without censorship. beginning of message Some imprecisiones and absences to the truth in the published article. The preoccupation is mentioned reason why comodín can be a "dominion"and a vague and erroneous argumental line is developed that suggests to the contributor an illegal conclusion to him on the subject. Certainly there is a preoccupation of the IANA, the ICANN, the MINTIC and CO Internet in which it could have represented the use of the practice of the "WILDCARD" or also well-known like of "comodín" in the space of CO. In effect these preoccupations came to the light, first in the process of public discussion of the policy and the process of hiring advanced by the MINTIC, and were express object of manifestations on the part of ALL the agents before mentioned, leavingsure which we from a same principle were saying, which practices of "comodín" in ccTLD could not be executed CO. More important still it is the following commentary of the contributor: "Also, this process and new reality, already began to be operated commercially, without considering the voice of Colombia, its inhabitants and end users of Internet." The recent thing of the creation of the association that sponsors the article (April of 2010), or the absence of the participation in the public and institutionalized activities of debate on the part of some,did not have to justify its ignorance on the development of the managements that in a public process that took more than 10 years, andof equally public way, served the National Government to define the model of operations, the policies of administration and the selection of the organization in charge of the administration. The information on the process is available in Internet for that wantsit to consult in http://www.mintic.gov.co/mincom/faces/index.jsp?id=1279. There like conclusion of all the process, we called the attention in the saying to this paragraph in special: "the Ministry will maintain under its responsibility the policy definition, the activities of control and monitoring of recurso.co. The Domino.co will be attractive for the registry, specially of companies at world-wide level, since it facilitates his recordaciÃ³n, crucial element in the trade through Internet and authorizes the registry of names of one more a been brief way. That is to say, a dominion name that is registered today under a third level (empresa.com.co) in the future could be registered in second level (empresa.co)" It consequently seems important to make a call to the care of the truth, the study of the concepts and the prudence of affirmations that they disinform to the national and international community of Internet. Thanks. Eduardo Santoyo VP, ccTLD Manager CO Internet SAS aim of the message Erick Iriarte Ahon General Manager - LACTLD http://www.lactld.org The 19/04/2010, to 09:10, Juan Red Manuel wrote: > Good days to all... > Envio the text of declaration on the part of AD Colombia. > > ccTLD co > and the preoccupation of Ageia Densi Colombia > > According to > parameters of the norm of in agreement standardization ISO 3166 and > to the Colombian domestic legislation, like Law 1341 of 2009, and the Resolution > 1652 of 2008, to Colombia is identified to him territoriallyin the cyberspace > with ccTLD (Country Code Top Level Domain): co, Ageia Densi Colombia sees with distrust that this dominion is transformed into > "dominion comodÃn". The globalizaciÃ³n of the different local commercial activities > is only permissible if it is accompanied by a "normalization" that it integrates all > activities of the productive chain. Apparently the market economy can > more than good sense. > > That distant discussion on the possibility of > that CO stopped being only territorial to become commercial is already one > inescapable certainty. The warnings of IANA (Internet Assigned ! were not enough > Numbers Authority) in its report of November of the 2009 on the dangers of > this commercialization. At this moment they exist around 50 countries that > tries to reserve to the dominion CO in registries of names that wish to use it > for commercial and related activities. > > Also exists trade studies that say > with pride that 75% of the people relate co to Company or > Corporation and with other types of commercial activities. Ageia Densi Colombia > asks which interest > public talks about the Ministry of Technologies of the Information and > Communications TIC, respect to the dominion co? > > Like > before we wrote down, IANA, has indicated, although not the only one, one of the great ones > risks in the liberalization of the Dominion co is Captura ofdominions > nonexistent by substitution, which is explained in the similarity between > dominions com and co. This situation takes shape enough in the possibility > real, "to write" registered direction! s in com but nonexistent in > co which will be taken advantage! of by t rue "electronic pirates" stops > to redirigir this traffic towards pages of its interest. According to the company that > administers the dominion, Co Internet SAS, expressed its position in recognizing that > the possibility of operation of the dominion co like comodÃn was detrimental and > exposed negative consequences for the security and stabilityof the same one. > Such position is endorsed with the expression with which they will provide its greater effort > in the implementation of good international practices to avoid that such > situations appear. > > Existe > one narrows relation between the names of dominion and the public interest. Said > relation much more passes to be important and significant that a mere one > state consecration, that in the Colombian case acquired relevance in scopes > academic and that now returns to the arena, at moments in which its opening > widely indicates the imminence of materialization of a previous risk and > announced. > Ageia > ! Densi Colombia sees with preoccupation that the documents published by > Ministry TIC very little serves and much except the paper that is observed of > Advisory Advice for the Administration of the Dominion co inthe definition of > regulation parameters. The possibility of arguing to favor or against > theories as the Digital Sovereignty and the complexity of the handling of resources like > ccTLDs, happens to background before prominent cases like the one of the dominion > tv. Other examples abounds by pile and seems to watch great controversies in > the case of co although many > wants to see it like great opportunities of business. > > Ageia > Densi Colombia will study the true impact of the decision toliberalize > dominion co at global level; what promises to be a possibility without precedents > in the Network of Networks, can be in a conflicting situation and with serious > consequences for Colombia, specially as far as its Sovereignty, to which > previous experien! ces in situations > particular does not report the best one to! him of the auguries. > > Thus > same, this process and new reality, already began to be operated > commercially, without considering the voice of Colombia, itsinhabitants and > end users of Internet. "independence" in the administration of this > resource, is not seen but like an aspect that concerns a single company > prevailed. As he is frequent in Colombia, this type of decisions is banalizan to > to pass the analysis of vital situations like this, by the interest (egoistic) > of the turn governor. It happened in the past (Licenses to Movable Operators) > happens now and will continue happening in a future. > > RED JUAN MANUEL P > AGEIA DENSI Colombia > > -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > mQGiBD8OdRwRBACEr0/NPA88qp8f6KyIMMveLQ1FOuLi0aDQDPybG7u1nrBoi3VI > tSRyfYcdExVxWQjTGd9qbShzXBw2DsxjA6YjiGzWKpVcqtj9uUDpSlylBaoadUzu > Sf3rÃkOHR2QJeC+9vÃ¬l30xy5XLMxDRbQYaSmfÃ»wTlIOUWNn118KpdawCgoNny > p4DR9EvRgCmY5z6IKHA2WscD/AhAKDVHCIAoZHzSB/puNOuVUSK! 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Not to see worries it to me. > > In the profile of Antonio Medina in Facebook I saw that subio a video recently and abstracts it in pantallazo. Sera this the ACUI positio! n? > > http://twitpic.com/1gpeat > > Serious good for knowing it > > Greetings, > > Andres Piazza > > > From: joseluis(a)barzallo.com > > To: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] ccTLD CO > > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:01:42 -0500 > > > > Considered > > > > Our Antonio friend can help us with its commentaries fromits optics > > of Colombian user front to which it happens. > > > > gives a Antonio hand please Us? > > > > warm Greetings, > > > > Jose Luis > > > > AEDIT > > www.aedit.org.ec > > > > Columbus 535 and 6 of December. > > Edif. CristÃ³bal Columbus Of. 602 > > Telf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 > > Fax: 593 2 2564530 > > email: joseluis(a)barzallo.com > > Exempt Ecuador > > > > original -----Mensaje > > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.i! cann.org ] In name of Andres > > Piazza > > Sent: Thursd! ay, 08 o f April of 2010 14:15 > > For: Spanish LACRALO > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] ccTLD CO > > > > > > > > Considered, > > Something we talked in the teleconferencing passed about ccTLD CO and many > > of us we expressed ourselves on the individual. > > > > Aprovecho to copy aqui a chain of the ready Internet Governance > > Cactus. > > > > Hay to read the post office of down upwards following theThread. > > > > I must say that opinion of Carlos Afonso identifies to me. > > > > Greetings, > > > > Andres Piazza > > > > Forwarded message > > From: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa(a)gmail.com> > > > > Date: 2010/4/8 > > Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs > > To: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org, David Goldstein > > <goldstein_david(a)yahoo.com.au> > > > > > > > > This may be interesting to many ace it dog serve ace marries study from the > > > > developing world: > > > &g! t; > > > > There plows many ccTLD disparities prevalent in the developing world. > > > > For example in the marries of Pakistan, the official ccTLD for pk was > > > > given in the Time of IANA to to Pakistani based in the U.S. who there are now > > > > eats back to Pakistan. The ccTLD www.pknic.net.pk was to under an IANA > > > > allocation and wasn't shifted to the new ICANN contracting. For a > > > > country of 170 million extra population the following plows the domain > > > > registration stats where only 29557 domains have been registered: > > > > > > > > stats for PKNIC > > > > 2010-04-07: > > > > domains: 29557 > > > > nameservers: 1179 > > > > > > > > There is to consumer in-confidence in PKNIC, people plowsreluctant to take > > > > over-priced domains from PKNIC. PKNIC only registers domains for a > > > > period of two years for $25 to domain whereas t! o TLD for dog be acquired > > > > only $16 for two year! s. Each Time the debates on decentralization of > > > > PKNIC you eat up, PKNIC there are connection in the high up you please and is > > > > easily able to revoke such efforts. > > > > > > > > When we started raising these issues, PKNIC invited and included some > > > > of our Civil Society members to its board of advisers andthe members > > > > fell for it and felt under honoured to be included in theboard that they > > > > forgot what the present Internet Governance problems were. They still > > > > continue to participate in the IGC but plows prone to PKNIC interests > > > > which of course is to very big drawback. > > > > > > > > PKNIC there are occasionally broken down in its service with outages > > > > sometimes to over weeks. Our CS members have started gaining certain > > > > interests local from PKNIC which were publicly questionedby both the > > > > and international commu! nities visible ace publicly here: > > > > http://public.icann.org/node/343. > > > > > > > > PKNIC's monopoly cannot be broken through to public-private partnership > > > > between civil society, academy, private sector and govt > > > > to multistakeholder collaboration. The result is that people plows dwells > > > > oriented to acquire TLD domains ace to per today the total TLD domains in > > > > the country stand AT approximately: > > > > > > > > Total Domains in Pakistan: 41,380 > > > > (Source:http://www.webhosting.info/registries/country_stats/PK) > > > > > > > > IF we look AT our neighbouring country India, to their ccTLD runs ace a > > > > to multistakeholder partnership due to which they have dwells than half a > > > > million local domains. Similarly to their TLD registrations plows also AT > > > > the same to number: > > > > Total Domains in India: 559! ,213 > > > > (Source:http://www.webhosting.info/registr! ies/coun try_stats/IN) > > > > > > > > This clearly shows that allowing ccTLD's to monopolize totheir positions > > > > in the country effect the citizens of those countries in the following > > > > ways: > > > > > > > > 1. Control not to over ccTLD monopolies > > > > 2. Access low-cost ccTLD > > > > 3. Have to buy dwells TLD instead of ccTLD > > > > 4. Less to consumer choices > > > > 5. Cost of entry to Internet/Web too high > > > > 6. Local Lesser opportunities for initiative growth (withrespect to > > > > building local online activities backed by local domains) > > > > 7. Threat to IDNs and GTLD operations when the same ccTLDoperator dog > > > > influence govt and to other groups to host to their GLTDs/IDNs to under the > > > > same infrastructure. > > > > > > > > Such monopolies have to be broken otherwise ICANN will only be > > > > benefiting to hand! ful. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Fouad Bajwa > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 AT 4:37 A.M., David Goldstein > > > > <goldstein_david(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > > Carlos, > > > > > > > > > > Any to register that registers DE domain names dog provide an address, even > > if for registrars outside Germany this dog be to headache. Nominet you have no > > restrictions I a.m. aware of. AuDA there are restrictionsthat say for com.au > > addresses the person or organisation must have an Australian business to number > > from the tax office and the name must have some relationship with to their > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > And when there plows to over 13 million domains, such ace DE and to over 8 million > > (UK) it * IS * much to harder to get your preferred Domain Name than say, if > > there plows to over one million (AU and CA). > > > &gt! ; > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > &gt! ; > &gt ; > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Original Message > > > > > From: Carlos To Afonso <ca(a)cafonso.ca> > > > > > To: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org; David Goldstein > > <goldstein_david(a)yahoo.com.au> > > > > > Sent: Wed, 7 April, 2010 10:58:41 P.m. > > > > > Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs > > > > > > > > > > David, some additional comments below. > > > > > > > > > > -- c.a. > > > > > > > > > > David Goldstein wrote: > > > > > > Carlos ET to, > > > > > [... ] > > > > > > for Some have to requirement to the premises contact ace part of the > > > > > > registration process, but this is often easily provided by a > > > > > > to register. And the given that world's to number oneccTLD and probably > > > > > > to number 2 ccTLD, DE and! UK respectively, allow people from around > > > > > > the world to to register domain names in their ccTLDsand the world > > > > > > hasn't fails in, then it's not too big to problem. > > > > > > > > > > Not sure about any restrictions in Nominet (could not find specific > > > > > policy requirements in their Web site), but DENIC requires to legal > > > > > German address: "It is possible for individuals or institutions (that > > > > > have legal capacity) not located in Germany to to register de domains. > > > > > There is, to however, to condition, namely that they must appoint an > > > > > administrative contact who is resident in Germany and who you have to postcard > > > > > possible address AT which it is to serve documents (i.e. not to mere P.O. > > > > > box). The administrative contact is then also the person formally > > > > > authorized ! by the domain to holder to receive service of official or cour! t > > > > > documents (ZustellungsbevollmÃ€chtigter) within the meaning of the German > > > > > Code of Civil Procedure (Zivilprozessordnung) and the German Code of > > > > > Criminal Procedure (Strafprozessordnung). For The reason this measure is > > > > > to ensure that if any party there are to legal claim topursue, it is not made > > > > > dwells difficult for them by having to serve official or court documents > > > > > in another country, which is often to long, drawn-out process." > > > > > > > > > > Not sure about AuDA to either, but CIRA (Canada) does require proof of > > > > > legal Canadian citizenship or to address in Canada. > > > > > > > > > > > The main issue I see is that by opening up the ccTLD means it is > > > > > > to harder for residents to get to their own ccTLD domain. > > > > > > > > > > Not sure about this. Is t! hink it might even become to easier, although they > > > > > will have to is incumbent on for certain addresses withglobal registrants. My > > > > > point is that this "internationalization" just to make money defeats the > > > > > original purpose of having ccTLDs national ace the realm of identities in > > > > > the Domain Name System. Otherwise, let U.S. all join GNSO:) > > > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > > > -- c.a. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Original Message From: Carlos To Afonso <ca(a)cafonso.ca> > > > > > > To: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org; McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> Sent: Wed, > > > > > > 7 April, 2010 9:11:35 P.m. Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs > > > > > > > > > &! gt; > > > > > > > > Hi McTim, I dog start ! by sayin g: cheap and quick way to get to gTLD... > > > > > >:) There is to business group which convinces to community (or to their > > > > > > government, ace I think Colombians have not had the opportunity to > > > > > > properly and widely debates this) that to their national identity on the > > > > > > Internet is not to longer relevant and let you take to over and convert > > > > > > to their ccTLD into to commodity for the international domain market. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the marries of Colombia, it is clears strange. It is to country with 44 > > > > > > million people, relatively high HDI and the third largest South > > > > > > American economy -- hard to see how this is going to generate any > > > > > > significant amount of money to benefit Colombia -- this is Officers' Club of Revolutionary Armed Forces from > > > > > > being! Tuvalu. On the to other hand, given the size ofthe economy and > > > > > > Internet penetration in the country, it is hard to see how a > > > > > > non-profit self-sustainable operation to keep to their ccTLD in the > > > > > > national commons would not succeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > But this is my view and I a.m. not to Colombian (justto Latin American), > > > > > > under... But it makes me sad to know that xyz.co not to longer points to a > > > > > > Colombian Internet space. > > > > > > > > > > > > frt rgds > > > > > > > > > > > > -- c.a. > > > > > > > > > > > > McTim wrote: > > >>>>> http://www.cointernet.co/ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Do we have any thing to say on this? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> This type of thing would be to ! fruitful workshop topic IMO. > > >>>>> > >! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Carlos To Afonso > > > > > CGI.br (www.cgi.br) > > > > > Nupef (www.nupef.org.br) > > > > > ==================================== > > > > > new/nuevo/novo email: ca(a)cafonso.ca > > > > > ==================================== > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > You received this message ace to subscriber on the list: > > > > governance(a)lists.cpsr.org > > > > To be you remove from the list, send any message to: > > > > governance-unsubscribe(a)lists.cpsr.org > > > > > > > > For all list information and functions, see: > > > > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > > > > > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ______________________________________________! ___________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists > > icann.org > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-list… > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-list… > > http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/726ba078a4.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] REMINDER: Teleconferencing of LACRALO: Thursday, Of The 22 UTC Of April 21:00
by andrespiazzagpj＠hotmail.com April 20, 2010

April 20, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: REMINDER: Teleconferencing of LACRALO: Thursday, Of The 22 UTC Of April 21:00 From: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com Considered, good day. We waited for in the east teleconferencing Thursday to them. I want toemphasize the period of publicos commentaries on WHOIS and the participation of ALAC alli, that this slope. It is a good opportunity to participate. We are on time and we have people who know well on this subject in the list. But mainly I want to emphasize that the construction of the AGENDA (always the Staff proposes and makes a good work) is collective! From my part, always I take myself a little while from preparation of that agenda and with Dev normally we do contributions to him, because it isour function! But NOTHING PREVENTS that any delegate of LACRALO can contribute things to the Agenda (as long as is pertinent). Serious good that Thursday we have good attendance in llamda. We waited for them, greetings, Andres > Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 02:48:51 +0000 > From: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] REMINDER: Teleconferencing of LACRALO: Thursday, Of The 22 UTC Of April 21:00 > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: REMINDER: Teleconferencing of LACRALO: Thursday, OfThe 22 UTC Of April 21:00 > Of: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > Wanted All, > > comfortable Reminder that the following teleconferencing of LACRALO to program for Thursday, the 22 of April of 2010 in the 21:00 UTC. > > the agenda (to be bought up to date) and the details of the call can be found in: > https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?22_april_2010 > > If you cannot take care of the call please sends an email that indicates its absence and we will observe this information on laagenda. If you please require a dial-out between in contact with En-Grande they provide with personnel in: staff@atlarge.! icann.org. > > > -- > Respect, > > Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-Blanco, Marilyn Vernon, Kristina Nordström > Personal En-Grande of ICANN > > email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > Web site: www.atlarge.icann.org > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/e7f36ê36b.html > --]] > > > _________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/9e92fe83de.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] REMINDER: Teleconferencing of LACRALO: Thursday, Of The 22 UTC Of April 21:00
by amedinagomez＠gmail.com April 20, 2010

April 20, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: REMINDER: Teleconferencing of LACRALO: Thursday, Of The 22 UTC Of April 21:00 From: amedinagomez(a)gmail.com Thank you very much Antonio Medina Go'mez President Colombian association of Users of Internet. ACUI presidencia(a)acui.org.co amedinagomez(a)gmail.com The 19 of April of 2010 21:48, <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> it wrote: > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: REMINDER: Teleconferencing of LACRALO: Thursday, OfThe 22 UTC Of April > 21:00 > Of: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > Wanted All, > > comfortable Reminder that the following teleconferencing of LACRALO to program > for Thursday, the 22 of April of 2010 in the 21:00 UTC. > > the agenda (to be bought up to date) and the details of the call can > to find in: > https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?22_april_2010 > > If you cannot take care of the call please sends an email that it indicates > its absence and we will observe this information on laagenda. If you > please requires a dial-out between in contact with En-Grandeprovide with > personal in: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. > > > -- > Respect, > > Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-Blanco, > Marilyn Vernon, Kristina Nordström > Personal En-Grande of ICANN > > email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > Web site: www.atlarge.icann.org > _________________! ______________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/e7f36�ª36b.html > --]] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-list… > > http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ba713f181d.html --]]

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REMINDER: LACRALO Teleconference: Thursday, 22 April 21:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff April 19, 2010

April 19, 2010

Dear All, Friendly reminder that the next LACRALO teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, 22 April 2010 at 21:00 UTC. The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?22_april_2010 If you are unable to attend the call please send an email indicating your absence and we will note this information on the agenda. If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. -- Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-White, Marilyn Vernon, Kristina Nordström ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org website: www.atlarge.icann.org

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LACRALO Officer Positions 2010
by Dev Anand Teelucksingh April 19, 2010

April 19, 2010

Dear all, The last LACRALO general assembly was in March 2009 in Mexico when the election of chair and secretariat took place. According to the LACRALO operating principles and the Rules of Procedure, (https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?ralo_organising_documents) the term of the President of LACRALO and the secretariat of LACRALO is one year each. The current president is Andres Piazza from AGEIA DENSI, and is willing to serve another term. The current secretariat is Dev Anand Teelucksingh from Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society and is willing to serve another term. While there was discussion at last year's general assembly and in the recent LACRALO teleconference on February 18th, 2010 to having such officers serve for a two year term, it is necessary to confirm with the LACRALO membership any such change in the terms of office. Since these officers can only be elected by a LACRALO general assembly, it is the intention to have a virtual assembly if there is any other representative from an accredited ALS in LACRALO who wishes to stand for either - the post of LACRALO president. or - the post of LACRALO secretariat. These candidates MUST email the secretariat at admin(a)ttcsweb.org within two weeks from the date of this posting. If there are no other candidates, then the president and secretariat will be considered re-elected to serve another year from the date of this posting and the virtual assembly would not be held. ---- Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ccTLD CO
by jumaropi＠yahoo.com April 19, 2010

April 19, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: ccTLD CO From: jumaropi(a)yahoo.com Good day to all... Envio the text of declaraciÃ³n on the part of AD Colombia. ccTLD co and preocupaciÃ³n of Ageia Densi Colombia SegÃºn parÃ meters of the in agreement norm of estandarizaciÃ³n ISO 3166 and to legislaciÃ³n domÃ©stica Colombian, like Law 1341 of 2009, and the ResoluciÃ³n 1652 of 2008, to Colombia are identified to him territorially in the cyberspace with ccTLD (Country Code Top Level Domain): co, Ageia Densi Colombia sees with distrust that this dominion is transformed into âdominio comodÃnâ. GlobalizaciÃ³n of the different local commercial activities sÃ³lo is permissible if acompaÃ±a of one ânormalizaciÃ³nâ that it integrates all activities of the productive chain. Apparently economÃa of market can mÃ s that good sense. That distant discusiÃ³n on the possibility of that CO stopped being sÃ³lo territorial to become commercial is already one inescapable certainty. The warnings of IANA (Internet Assignedwere not enough Numbers Authority) in its report of November of the 2009 on the dangers of said comercializaciÃ³n. At this moment they exist around 50 paÃses that they try to reserve to the dominion CO in registries of names that wish to use it for commercial and related activities. TambiÃ©n exists trade studies that say with pride that 75% of the people relate co to CompaÃ±Ãa or CorporaciÃ³n and with other types of commercial activities. Ageia Densi Colombia it asks Â cuÃ l interÃ©s pÃºblico talks about the Ministry of TecnologÃas of the InformaciÃ³n and Communications TIC, respect to the dominion co? Like before we wrote down, IANA, has seÃÂ±alado, although not the ÃÂºnico, one of the great ones risks in liberalizaciÃÂ³n of the Dominion co is Captura of dominions nonexistent by substituciÃÂ³n, which is explained in the similarity between dominions com and co. This situaciÃÂ³n takes shape enough in the possibility real, of Ã¢ÂÂescribirÃ¢ÂÂ directions registered in com but nonexistent in co which serÃ taken advantage of by true Ã¢ÂÂpiratasÃ¢ÂÂ electrÃÂ³nicos stops to redirigir this trÃ fico towards pÃ ginas of his interÃ©s. SegÃÂºn the company that it administers the dominion, Co Internet SAS, expresÃÂ³ his posiciÃÂ³n in recognizing that the possibility of explotaciÃÂ³n of the dominion co like comodÃÂn was detrimental and exponÃÂa negative consequences for the security and stability of the same one. So posiciÃÂ³n is endorsed with expresiÃÂ³n of which proveerÃ n its greater effort in implementaciÃÂ³n of good prÃ cticas international to avoid that such situations appear. It exists one narrows relaciÃÂ³n between the names of dominion and pÃÂºblico©interÃ s. Said relaciÃÂ³n passes to be much important and significant mÃ s that a mere one consagraciÃÂ³n state, that in the Colombian case adquiriÃÂ³ relevance in Ã mbitos acadÃ©micos and that now returns to the arena, at moments in which its opening it widely indicates the imminence of materializaciÃÂ³n of a previous risk and announced. Ageia Densi Colombia sees with preocupaciÃÂ³n that documents published by Ministry TIC very little serves and much except the paper thatis observed of Advisory advice for the AdministraciÃÂ³n of the Dominion co in definiciÃÂ³n of parÃ meters of regulaciÃÂ³n. The possibility of arguing to favor or against teorÃÂas as the Digital SoberanÃÂa and the complexity of the handling of resources like ccTLDs, happens to background before prominent cases like the one of the dominion tv. Other examples abound by montÃÂ³n and seem to watch great polÃ©micas in the case of co although many want to see it like great opportunities of business. Ageia Densi Colombia estudiarÃ the true impact of decisiÃÂ³n to liberalize dominion co at global level; what promises to be a possibilitywithout precedents in the Network of Networks, situaciÃÂ³n can be in one conflicting and with serious consequences for Colombia, specially as far as its SoberanÃÂa,to which previous experiences in situations individuals do not report the best one to him of the auguries. AsÃÂ same, this process and new reality, already comenzÃÂ³ to being exploded commercially, without considering the voice of Colombia, its inhabitants and end users of Internet. Ã¢ÂÂindependenciaÃ¢ÂÂ in administraciÃÂ³n of this resource, is not seen but like an aspect that concerns a single company prevailed. As he is frequent in Colombia, this type of decisions is banalizan to to pass anÃ lisis of vital situations like this, by interÃ©s (egoÃÂsta) of the turn governor. SucediÃÂ³ in the past (Licenses to MÃÂ³viles Operators) seguirÃ happens now and happening in a future. RED JUAN MANUEL P AGEIA DENSI Colombia -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) mQGiBD8OdRwRBACEr0/NPA88qp8f6KyIMMveLQ1FOuLi0aDQDPybG7u1nrBoi3VI tSRyfYcdExVxWQjTGd9qbShzXBw2DsxjA6YjiGzWKpVcqtj9uUDpSlylBaoadUzu Sf3rÃkOHR2QJeC+9vÃ¬l30xy5XLMxDRbQYaSmfÃ»wTlIOUWNn118KpdawCgoNny p4DR9EvRgCmY5z6IKHA2WscD/AhAKDVHCIAoZHzSB/puNOuVUSKRbIWNAqUAYosz GRzYWb8O/3Ja4fNbÃMQ1gIsEcnUJFHnzID3pTjqWyiCId/NSX3fLuQxZHZE9n8P PqlZIvqMrOfCT0RJQa0zTFcrgepnmnHLj7qmtXQZm+YkTvlihOZNtVA4JNzrxDrQ egkqA/4hr0LezNJfkUhWnbW604p7AmmKK7Hi/ZixAfnxN0adgnV7oC3Q4VMÃ¥BÃ¬ gReSuifluHiaJmf/WsA3KH4bdyLRbagz6dOPkXY8bQKy9yRxQzÃžYwudlluYoZXe gSQI2Jle9UÃNefaÃžuvVlsB0he1qzF6VzHXAXpLsANt5smDh7Q0Q0EgQ2VydCBT aWduaW5nIEF1dGhvcml0eSAoUm9vdCBDQSkgPGdwZ0BjYWNlcnQub3JnPohfBBMR AgAfBQI/DnUcBQk4ZAkABAsHAwIDFQIDAxYCAQIeAQIXgAAKCRDSuw0BZdD9WEFX AJ9C6WBcYfTYw1uvZ+N85TPGG5PMKQCcCM1tyULC5J6pfwevywS6cEwfagWÃg0E Pw51MBAIANUbl1u0j+mnVJk1fKbJ+Ul6SAYpNtordfgrgrmlnOhMCFcROrCzsaaI 1ehohxMbTnIj0RP0g/KotahAurqB98qzHIxXZMEJSzBEÃCNvlIXqUyT1jwhAUN6 e71s084Lml84gD4cIr7+2YtwIu+6zrE+YdjfMT1NibM3vmiXaknrkÃ¢ADb02ZSÃ iDeRstUO5PG7qVgÃ»mR0HZJÃkÃ7Kdjaekzzlm0q/vYMZKTYX37NkZRUU0QFLsM tACEaZnwKf9hMAWJwG1OFyJeLVH8xvzCkIÃ+fpAvAQj6LVAh41SHl7EivH6SiTp /+61idoz/CGqeLBxuex6Z+Y5Ãº54FmcAAwUH/2chzBs1YWFX5LuLGEW3RÃW/wDb RnYpsSR+pnMBVh18WS0nF08R/SXtb12RsqN5H+GtELOZng6IWL5hhgNaYvF1F4sW Ezm2nyVmTsu7/DtHLmXtzz1oNLQ9pzJkoqP2pGtPYQKvmiuoNbt+l1prwjt5zn1D slLn8w0+9/PP1YdKpuZ/189yQP6iYsLHxBxg/50MbSzoFwiT2Ã JCdF+OJ7zRwDy GhjnfV7HVwdEDV5rvb7aRolRmZZFÃADSPu52BWT4PI0nVnewAgivyELqVU3Zc3P aWqmH5BAh22MjbsbXrWZXK/WOfZCNlPVdfHxwFGxnlwsHgmyrkPAs3szJGiITAQY EQIADAUCPw51MAUJOGQJAAAKCRDSuw0BZdD9WMwÃJwIVUzB2WQJGAbf/aXzCABn QWdKwACdEWUSf69RZiJgpÃŽMfXMx0fDEhÃ = = OaPO -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK ________________________________ Of: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com> It stops: joseluis(a)barzallo.com; LACRALO EspaÃÂ±ol <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Envoy: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:00:21 p.m. Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] ccTLD CO Jose thanks Luis to raise these preoccupations... Already the habiamos done. Gustaria me to have a ACUI position on the subject in the list. Not to see worries it to me. In the profile of Antonio Medina in Facebook I saw that subio a video recently and abstracts it in pantallazo. Sera this the ACUI position? http://twitpic.com/1gpeat Serious good for knowing it Greetings, Andres Piazza > From: joseluis(a)barzallo.com > To: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] ccTLD CO > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:01:42 -0500 > > Considered > > Our Antonio friend can help us with its commentaries from its ÃÂ³ptica > of Colombian user front to which it happens. > > gives a Antonio hand please Us? > > warm Greetings, > > JosÃ© Luis > > AEDIT > www.aedit.org.ec > > ColÃÂ³n 535 and 6 of December. > Edif. CristÃÂ³bal ColÃÂ³n Of. 602 > Telf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 > Fax: 593 2 2564530 > email: joseluis(a)barzallo.com > Exempt Ecuador > > original -----Mensaje > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of Andres > Piazza > Envoy: Thursday, 08 of April of 2010 14:15 > For: LACRALO EspaÃÂ±ol > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] ccTLD CO > > > > Considered, > Something we talked in the teleconferencing passed about ccTLD CO ! and many > of us we expressed ourselves on the individual. > > Aprovecho to copy aqui a chain of the ready Internet Governance > Cactus. > > Hay to read the post office of down upwards following the Thread. > > I must say that opinion of Carlos Afonso identifies to me. > > Greetings, > > Andres Piazza > > Forwarded message > From: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa(a)gmail.com> > > Date: 2010/4/8 > Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs > To: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org, David Goldstein > <goldstein_david(a)yahoo.com.au> > > > > This may be interesting to many ace it dog serve ace marries study from the > > developing world: > > > > There plows many ccTLD disparities prevalent in the developing world. > > For example in the marries of Pakistan, the official ccTLD for pk was > > to to Pakistani given in the Time of IANA based in the U.S.who there are now > > eats back to Pakistan. The ccTLD www.pknic.net.pk was to under an IANA > > allocation and wasn't shifted to! the new ICANN contracting.For a > > country of 170 million e! xtra pop ulation the following plowsthe domain > > registration stats where only 29557 domains have been registered: > > > > stats for PKNIC > > 2010-04-07: > > domains: 29557 > > nameservers: 1179 > > > > There is to consumer in-confidence in PKNIC, people plows reluctant to take > > over-priced domains from PKNIC. PKNIC only registers domains for a > > period of two years for $25 to domain whereas to TLD for dog be acquired > > only $16 for two years. Each Time the debates on decentralization of > > PKNIC you eat up, PKNIC there are connection in the high upyou please and is > > easily able to revoke such efforts. > > > > When we started raising these issues, PKNIC invited and included some > > of our Civil Society members to its board of advisers and the members > > fell for it and felt under honoured to be included in the board that they > > forgot what the present Internet Governance problems were. They still > > continue to participate in the IGC but plows! prone to PKNICinterests > > which of course is to very big drawback. > > > > PKNIC there are occasionally broken down in its service with outages > > sometimes to over weeks. Our CS members have started gaining certain > > interests local from PKNIC which were publicly questioned by both the > > and international communities visible ace publicly here: > > http://public.icann.org/node/343. > > > > PKNIC's monopoly cannot be broken through to public-privatepartnership > > between civil society, academy, private sector and govt > > to multistakeholder collaboration. The result is that people plows dwells > > oriented to acquire TLD domains ace to per today the total TLD domains in > > the country stand AT approximately: > > > > Total Domains in Pakistan: 41,380 > > (Source:http://www.webhosting.info/registries/country_stats/PK) > > > > IF we look AT our neighbouring country India, to their ccTLD runs ace a > > to multistakeholder partnership due to whic! h they have dwells than half a > > million local domains. Sim! ilarly t o their TLD registrationsplows also AT > > the same to number: > > Total Domains in India: 559,213 > > (Source:http://www.webhosting.info/registries/country_stats/IN) > > > > This clearly shows that allowing ccTLD's to monopolize to their positions > > in the country effect the citizens of those countries in the following > > ways: > > > > 1. Control not to over ccTLD monopolies > > 2. Access low-cost ccTLD > > 3. Have to buy dwells TLD instead of ccTLD > > 4. Less to consumer choices > > 5. Cost of entry to Internet/Web too high > > 6. Local Lesser opportunities for initiative growth (with respect to > > building local online activities backed by local domains) > > 7. Threat to IDNs and GTLD operations when the same ccTLD operator dog > > influence govt and to other groups to host to their GLTDs/IDNs to under the > > same infrastructure. > > > > Such monopolies have to be broken otherwise ICANN will onlybe > > benefiting to handful. > > > > Best R! egards > > Fouad Bajwa > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 AT 4:37 A.M., David Goldstein > > <goldstein_david(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > Carlos, > > > > > > Any to register that registers DE domain names dog provide an address, even > if for registrars outside Germany this dog be to headache. Nominet you have no > restrictions I a.m. aware of. AuDA there are restrictions that say for com.au > addresses the person or organisation must have an Australian business to number > from the tax office and the name must have some relationship with to their > work. > > > > > > > And when there plows to over 13 million domains, such aceDE and to over 8 million > (UK) it * IS * much to harder to get your preferred Domain Name than say, if > there plows to over one million (AU and CA). > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > Original Message > > > From: Carlos To Afonso <ca(a)cafonso.ca> > > > To: governance@li! sts.cpsr.org; David Goldstein > <goldstein_david(a)yahoo.com.au>! > > &g t; Sent: Wed, 7 April, 2010 10:58:41 P.m. > > > Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs > > > > > > David, some additional comments below. > > > > > > -- c.a. > > > > > > David Goldstein wrote: > > > > Carlos ET to, > > > [... ] > > > > for Some have to requirement to the premises contact ace part of the > > > > registration process, but this is often easily providedby a > > > > to register. And the given that world's to number one ccTLD and probably > > > > to number 2 ccTLD, DE and UK respectively, allow peoplefrom around > > > > the world to to register domain names in their ccTLDs and the world > > > > hasn't fails in, then it's not too big to problem. > > > > > > Not sure about any restrictions in Nominet (could not find specific > > > policy requirements in their Web site), but DENIC requires to legal > > > German address: "It is possible for individuals or instituti! ons (that > > > have legal capacity) not located in Germany to to register de domains. > > > There is, to however, to condition, namely that they mustappoint an > > > administrative contact who is resident in Germany and whoyou have to postcard > > > possible address AT which it is to serve documents (i.e. not to mere P.O. > > > box). The administrative contact is then also the person formally > > > authorized by the domain to holder to receive service of official or court > > > documents (ZustellungsbevollmÃÂ€chtigter) within the meaning of the German > > > Code of Civil Procedure (Zivilprozessordnung) and the German Code of > > > Criminal Procedure (Strafprozessordnung). For The reason this measure is > > > to ensure that if any party there are to legal claim to pursue, it is not made > > > dwells difficult for them by having to serve official or court documents > > > in another country, which is often to long, drawn-out pr! ocess." > > > > > > Not sure about AuDA to either, but! CIRA (C anada) does require proof of > > > legal Canadian citizenship or to address in Canada. > > > > > > > The main issue I see is that by opening up the ccTLD means it is > > > > to harder for residents to get to their own ccTLD domain. > > > > > > Not sure about this. Is think it might even become to easier, although they > > > will have to is incumbent on for certain addresses with global registrants. My > > > point is that this "internationalization" just to make money defeats the > > > original purpose of having ccTLDs national ace the realm of identities in > > > the Domain Name System. Otherwise, let U.S. all join GNSO:) > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > -- c.a. > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Original Message From: Carlos To Afonso <ca(a)cafonso.ca> > > > > To: governance(a)lists.cpsr.org; McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> Sent: Wed, > >! > > 7 April, 2010 9:11:35 P.m. Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi McTim, I dog start by saying: cheap and quick way toget to gTLD... > > > >:) There is to business group which convinces to community (or to their > > > > government, ace I think Colombians have not had the opportunity to > > > > properly and widely debates this) that to their national identity on the > > > > Internet is not to longer relevant and let you take to over and convert > > > > to their ccTLD into to commodity for the international domain market. > > > > > > > > In the marries of Colombia, it is clears strange. It isto country with 44 > > > > million people, relatively high HDI and the third largest South > > > > American economy -- hard to see how this is going to generate any > > > > significant amount of money to benefit Colombia -- thisis Officers' Club of Revol! utionary Armed Forces from > > > > being Tuvalu. On the! to othe r hand, given the size of the economy and > > > > Internet penetration in the country, it is hard to see how a > > > > non-profit self-sustainable operation to keep to their ccTLD in the > > > > national commons would not succeed. > > > > > > > > But this is my view and I a.m. not to Colombian (just to Latin American), > > > > under... But it makes me sad to know that xyz.co not tolonger points to a > > > > Colombian Internet space. > > > > > > > > frt rgds > > > > > > > > -- c.a. > > > > > > > > McTim wrote: > > > > > http://www.cointernet.co/ > > > > > > > > > > Do we have any thing to say on this? > > > > > > > > > > This type of thing would be to fruitful workshop topic IMO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Carlos To Afonso > > > CGI.br (www.cgi.br) > > > Nupef (www.nupef.org.br) ! > > > ==================================== > > > new/nuevo/novo email: ca(a)cafonso.ca > > > ==================================== > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message ace to subscriber on the list: > > governance(a)lists.cpsr.org > > To be you remove from the list, send any message to: > > governance-unsubscribe(a)lists.cpsr.org > > > > For all list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > _________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists > icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > > _________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/8ebbe010ee.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] The Official of LACRALO Coloca 2010
by andrespiazzagpj＠hotmail.com April 19, 2010

April 19, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: The Official of LACRALO Coloca 2010 From: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com Thanks very much to you, Cheryl. For Hope to do our best the next period. Regards, Andrés Piazza LACRALO Chair > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 06:12:51 +0000 > From: langdonorr(a)gmail.com > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; Staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] the Official of LACRALO Coloca 2010 > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Re: The Official of LACRALO Coloca 2010 > Of: langdonorr(a)gmail.com > > To name of ALAC also wanted to proffer our congratulations in his > reappointment and we are watching ahead absolutely at a yearnext with great > between coming from the LACRALO in-great ALSes and. > > Cheryl Langdon-Orr > (CLO) > > > > 2010/4/16 In The Great Personnel <Staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > > Wanted All, > > theEn-Grande personnel congratulates with Andres taste and the revealer in its re-election like, > > respectively, president and secretary! We watched ahead tocontinue > aid of offer of the personnel to them in its pape! rs dela LACRALO. direction > > the regional pagination of the LACRALO officials has been bought up to date to reflect its new > terms: > https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?regional_leaders. > > respect, > > Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-Blanco, > Marilyn Vernon, Kristina NordstrÃ¶m > Personal En-Grande of ICANN > > email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org > Web site: www.atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > Original message > of: lac-discuss-in-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-in-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] to name of therevealer > Anand Teelucksingh > sent: Thursday, 15 of April Of 2010 9:56 > a: List of the LACRALO discussion > subject: Re: [ lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in ] the LACRALO official places 2010 > > dear all, > > the term for the appointments for president and l! > to secretarÃÂa of LACRALO > the positions was mi! Ã©rcoles, 14 of April of 2010, > > aside from the ! appointm ents of > - Seat of Andres of AGEIA DENSI for rmino other©tÃ like LACRALO president> and > - revealing Anand Teelucksingh of the society of the computer of Trinidad and Trinidad and Tobago for > rmino other©tÃ like secretarÃÂa of LACRALO > > not recibiÃÂ³ no other appointments > > therefore, since not habÃÂa other candidates: > > - the Seat of Andresof AGEIA DENSI reelects as LACRALO president > - the revealer Anand Teelucksingh of the society of the computer of Trinidad and Trinidad and Tobago is > reelected like secretarÃÂa of LACRALO > > for tÃ©rmino of aÃÂ±o of the one of April 14 of 2010, segÃÂºn our LACRALO > operation principles and rules of the procedure, > (https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?ralo_organising_documents) > >> > respect, > > Revealing Anand Teelucksingh > SecretarÃÂa of LACRALO> > > in Wed, of march the 31 of! > 2010 in 10:36, revealer Anand Te! elucksingh > <admin@ttcsweb.! > org > esc > ribiÃÂ³: > > wanted all, > > > > the General Assembly passed of LACRALO was in march of 2009 in xico©MÃ when > > elecciÃÂ³n of the chair and secretarÃÂa ocurriÃÂ³. > > > > segÃÂºn the principles of operation of LACRALO and the rules of the procedure, > > (https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?ralo_organising_documents) > >tÃ©rmino of the president of LACRALO and secretarÃÂa of LACRALO> > is aÃÂ±o by each one > > > > the present president is Seat of Andres of > > AGEIA DENSI, and estÃ arranged to serve to another one tÃ©rmino. > > secretarÃÂa present is the revealer Anand Teelucksingh of > > the society of the computer of Trinidad and Trinidad and Tobago and estÃ had to serve to another one > tÃ©rmino. > > > > whereas habÃÂa discusiÃÂ³n in the General Assembly as aÃÂ±o last and in > r! ecent > > teleconferencing LACRALO 18 as February as 201! 0 to hav e such officials > service > > to tÃ©rmino of two aÃÂ±! > you, is necessary to confirm with the LACRALO > quality of member > > any change in tÃ©rminos of the office > > > > since these officials can be only chosen by a General Assembly of LACRALO, > > is intenciÃÂ³n to have a virtual assembly if > is any representing other >of a ALS credited in LACRALO to which > wishes > support for anyone > > - the post of the LACRALO. president > > or > > - the post of secretarÃÂa of LACRALO. > > > > these candidates MUST to email secretarÃÂa in admin(a)ttcsweb.org inside > > two weeks as of the date of this fijaciÃÂ³n. > > > > if there are no other candidates, then the president and secretarÃÂa > > serÃ considered reelected to serve to another one aÃÂ±o as of the date as > > does not celebrarÃÂan fijaciÃÂ³nthis and to the virtual assembly > > > &gt! ; > > > > respect, > > > > Revealing Anand Teelucksingh > > SecretarÃÂa of LACRALO >! > > _______________________________________________ > list that! > envÃÂa > lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-list… icann.org > > > _______________________________________________ > list that envÃÂa lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-list… > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6bf672bdd7.html > --]] > > > _________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/de32538139.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] El Oficial de LACRALO Coloca 2010
by Andres Piazza April 19, 2010

April 19, 2010

Thanks very much to you, Cheryl. Hope to do our best for the next period. Regards, Andrés Piazza LACRALO Chair > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 06:12:51 +0000 > From: langdonorr(a)gmail.com > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; Staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] El Oficial de LACRALO Coloca 2010 > > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > > Tema: Re: El Oficial de LACRALO Coloca 2010 > De: langdonorr(a)gmail.com > > A nombre de ALAC también quisiera proffer nuestras felicitaciones en su > el reappointment y nosotros estamos mirando adelante absolutamente a un año a continuación con grande > entre venir del LACRALO ALSes y en-grande. > > Cheryl Langdon-Orr > (CLO) > > > > 2010/4/16 En El Personal Grande <Staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > > Querido Todos, > > el personal En-Grande felicita con gusto Andres y el revelador en su reelección como, > ¡> respectivamente, presidente y secretaria! Miramos adelante para continuar > ayuda de ofrecimiento del personal a ellos en sus papeles dela dirección de LACRALO. > > la paginación regional de los oficiales de LACRALO se ha puesto al día para reflejar su nuevo > términos: > https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?regional_leaders. > > respeto, > > Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-Blanco, > Marilyn Vernon, Kristina Nordström > Personal En-Grande de ICANN > > email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org > Web site: www.atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > mensaje Original > de: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] a nombre del revelador > Anand Teelucksingh > envió: Jueves, 15 de Abril De 2010 9:56 > a: Lista de la discusión de LACRALO > tema: Re: [ laca-discutir-lac-discuss-en ] El oficial de LACRALO coloca 2010 > > querido todos, > > el plazo para los nombramientos para el presidente y l! > a secretarÃa de LACRALO > las posiciones eran miÃ©rcoles, 14 de abril de 2010. > > aparte de los nombramientos de > - Plaza de Andres de AGEIA DENSI para otro tÃ©rmino como presidente de LACRALO > y > - revelador Anand Teelucksingh de la sociedad del ordenador de Trinidad y de Trinidad y Tobago para > otro tÃ©rmino como secretarÃa de LACRALO > > no se recibiÃ³ ningunos otros nombramientos. > > por lo tanto, puesto que no habÃa otros candidatos: > > - la Plaza de Andres de AGEIA DENSI se reelige como presidente de LACRALO > - el revelador Anand Teelucksingh de la sociedad del ordenador de Trinidad y de Trinidad y Tobago es > reelegido como secretarÃa de LACRALO > > para un tÃ©rmino de un aÃ±o del de abril 14 de 2010, segÃºn nuestro LACRALO > principios de funcionamiento y reglas del procedimiento, > (https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?ralo_organising_documents) > > > > respeto, > > Revelador Anand Teelucksingh > SecretarÃa de LACRALO > > > en Wed, de marcha el 31 de! > 2010 en 10:36, revelador Anand Teelucksingh > <admin@ttcsweb.! > org> esc > ribiÃ³: > > querido todos, > > > > la Asamblea General pasada de LACRALO estaba en marcha de 2009 en MÃ©xico cuando > > la elecciÃ³n de la silla y de la secretarÃa ocurriÃ³. > > > > segÃºn los principios de funcionamiento de LACRALO y las reglas del procedimiento, > > (https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?ralo_organising_documents) > > el tÃ©rmino del presidente de LACRALO y de la secretarÃa de LACRALO > > es un aÃ±o por cada uno. > > > > el presidente actual es Plaza de Andres de > > AGEIA DENSI, y estÃ¡ dispuesto a servir otro tÃ©rmino. > > la secretarÃa actual es el revelador Anand Teelucksingh de > > la sociedad del ordenador de Trinidad y de Trinidad y Tobago y estÃ¡ dispuesta a servir otra > tÃ©rmino. > > > > mientras que habÃa discusiÃ³n en la Asamblea General del aÃ±o pasado y en > reciente > > teleconferencia de LACRALO 18 de febrero de 2010 a tener tales oficiales > servicio > > para un tÃ©rmino de dos aÃ±! > os, es necesario confirmar con el LACRALO > calidad de miembro > > cualquier cambio en los tÃ©rminos de la oficina. > > > > puesto que estos oficiales pueden ser elegidos solamente por una Asamblea General de LACRALO, > > es la intenciÃ³n tener un ensamblaje virtual si hay cualquier otro > > representante de un ALS acreditado en LACRALO a el cual desea > > soporte para cualquiera > > - el poste del presidente de LACRALO. > > o > > - el poste de la secretarÃa de LACRALO. > > > > estos candidatos DEBEN email la secretarÃa en admin(a)ttcsweb.org dentro > > dos semanas a partir de la fecha de esta fijaciÃ³n. > > > > si no hay otros candidatos, entonces el presidente y la secretarÃa > > serÃ¡ considerado reelegido para servir otro aÃ±o a partir de la fecha de > > no celebrarÃan la fijaciÃ³n esto y al ensamblaje virtual. > > > > > > > > respeto, > > > > Revelador Anand Teelucksingh > > SecretarÃa de LACRALO >! > > _______________________________________________ > lista que! > envÃa > laca-discutir-lac-discuss-en > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-lists > icann.org > > > _______________________________________________ > lista que envÃa laca-discutir-lac-discuss-en > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-list… > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [[--Original text (en) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6bf672bdd7.html > --]] > > > _________________________________________________________________

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