April 2010 - lac-discuss-en

Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=�co=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=� =
by jmamodio＠gmail.com April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=Èco=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=È = From: jmamodio(a)gmail.com It does not have of which Andres, aqui goes then what motivatesand bases my it asks Daniel. Continuing a little with the cuestionamiento that proponia Alexander in answer to the message of Antonio, evidently one of the points but urticantes for some, are the similarity from CO with COM that certainly but alla that the Government of Colombia after a process that can or to be criticized has not decided to contract the administration of same to a commercial company, it generates an interesting situation in present universe of the dominion names. Lamentably, my opinion, the DNS has become a luck of Persian market, but that has given rise to a "estimated industry" in several trillions of dolares, to be generated many interests then and all want a small piece of the "cake". In my opinion the bottom question is that with the similarity between CO and COM is created a new space where certain reglas/politicas preexisting they fall in a gray land and the door is opened sothat potentially greater surely greater competition is created and controversy in the use of the DNS. A detail in individual to consider, is that although CO ccTLD comprises of ccNSO, CO is one of ccTLD that does not even have signed algun formal agreement or "accountability framework" with ICANN, nonmemory at this moment with exactitude if one has occurred in the past algun "to letter exchange". Then in this frame, and although they exist certain norms and processes that all have accepted in common and derivatives of the delegation of the administration of ccTLD on the part of IANA in the frame of the expressed thing in the RFC1591, we say that CO becomes then in "new COM" with a "regulatory frame" slightly different from which operates COM at the moment. (It is possible to notice that TV ccTLD it has not signed a formal agreement with ICANN either). Also it is possible to emphasize that in spite of not existing a formal agreement, in certain subjects as the resolution of disputes CO ccTLD has decided to follow the same process established by ICANN (UDRP) and in relation a protection of marks to create a period "sunrise". Some companies have not hoped too much to move, already can to visit http://www.microsoft.co /, that although the period of "sunrise" began 1ro of April already was registered from February 24, 2010. Other dominions like apple.co and google.co also they are or registered, peculiarly in the same date or a day antes/despues, is to say that preference has occurred him certain names previous at the beginning of the period "sunrise", possibly this surga of the Phase 1 or period of "apadrinamiento" where that already they counted on a dominion of third low level com.co, edu.co, etc, they could apply for a dominion of second level, but the detail is that this peridio comenzo 1ro of March, then as it is that Microsoft registry its dominion MICROSOFT.CO in February? (Part of the information on these periodos/procesos is in the titled document "CO Report Summarized for Holders of Marksand its Agents "http://www.cointernet.com.co/sites/default/files/documents/CO_propiedad_int…) Then returning to my initial question, that is what it is wanted "to avoid that he happens", under which "mandate", and on the part of who? Kind Greetings Jorge Co cctld member of ccnso _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/e1c9137114.html --]]

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Public Comment - Fellowship
by andrespiazzagpj＠hotmail.com April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Public Comment - Fellowship From: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com Considered, this mail simply is for telling them that in a personal view I have commented in the period on Travel Support http://forum.icann.org/lists/travel-support-2011 We already know that the subject of Travel Support is not nor must be a central axis of our debates, but in this case I am raising asubject about the Fellowship Program. In individual, and I say it in Spanish because the original message (whose connection I finish publishing) is in English, talks about to ask for ICANN that publish the names of the members of the Commission of Indepentiente Selection of the Fellowship Program as well as their CV, and the criteria to him of selection. Anyone of you can also think there. Greetings, Andrés Piazza President of LACRALO _________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/fa5dfdbe2f.html --]]

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Could you clarify?
by carlosaguirre62＠hotmail.com April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Could you clarify? From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com Dear Antonio. Following the thought mentioned by Alex. Is also want asking you what is the ACUI position, when the co is now administrated by private company with very different interests than end users, without participation of end users in a National Bussiness,and How dog explain the fact that co will be uses like to cc (nationalidentification domain), and commercial identificator? I for a.m. really surprised your words AT the teleconference yesterday. Could youexplain to me? The situation is not to clear and I for a.m. worried your end users representation. Plows you participating or some to other end to user representative in co ccTLD desitions? What was the participation of Legal end users in definitions of structure of ccTLD (used also like gTLD)? In what way plows protected rights of end users? Do you (yourself or your ALS) receive some "contribution" from co administrator? Why you made propaganda of co in a facebook? Plows you interested in a company growth? and in t! his marries why? Carlos Aguirre _________________________________________________________________ With Hotmail and Calendario to organize meetings is very easy: enviá invitations and I received attendance confirmations. http://www.microsoft.com/latam/windows/windowslive/products/calendar.aspx _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/f5e20fb740.html --]]

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Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=�co=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=� =
by apisan＠servidor.unam.mx April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=Èco=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=È = From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx Antonio, but putting the things a little more in clear. When originally it proposed, ten years ago, that co could be used like alternative to com by the interested ones, the one was armed of San Quintín because "it was tried to sell the name of the Mother country "or something of which this affirmation is not a version very exaggerated. The process of the decade had like objective to create new rules for new operator and to replace the previous one. Now the new rules are being read because co can be used like alternative to com by the interested ones. How it explains ACUI or how ACUI reacts or how it denies like erroneous ACUI this interpretation, that indeed could be erroneous or incomplete? EYE: this question has meaning for the history of ccTLDs and by as much for the history and the culture of Internet in the region, and by possible extension of its criteria, in a species of Compared Right, a other countries, thus to include/understand the precedent are important. Not brother, respected deals with an attempt of interference of a country and wanted. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, [ ISO-8859-1 ] Antonio Medina Go'mez wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:18:04 -0500 > From: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] Antonio Medina Go'mez" <amedinagomez(a)gmail.com> > To: "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ Windows-1252 ] Dominio.co~E Aporte OF ACUI to > list. > > Dear friends > > From the Colombian Association of Users of Internet we have been kind > to the commentaries in relation to dominio.co and as ALS of Lacralo we want > to make the following contributions. > > Is of fundamental importance of mentioning that the evolution and development of > dominions in Colombia associated to co has lived a complex process but > also participativo. > > the interested ones in knowing some these aspects, can accede to > vestibule of the Ministry of the Technologies of Informationand the Communications > through the following connection > http://www.mintic.gov.co/mincom/faces/index.jsp?id=1279 > > the Colombian Association of Users of Internet in the development of th! is > process has participated actively in representation of the community of > usuary of Internet of Colombia. > > Is necessary to mention that a public process - at least of 10 was made > years -, in head of the Ministry of the Technologies of Information and > Communications, MINTIC, process that has been characterized - like many others > by being opened, transparent and participativo, and the different people and > organizations who participated, at their moment presented/displayed his publicly > points of view or written proposal, scene of > respect and of consensus. > > These processes allowed him, to in that then Ministry of > Communications, to establish, as much the model of management and administration like > the inherent policies to that administration and in individual the criteria > necessary for the evaluation and selection of the organization in charge of > administration. The last years, in this context a process was lived on > well-known Licitation and ope! nly socialized. > > In these processes ACUI participated makin! g the co rresponding contributions in > work meetings that helped the Ministry to define aspects > excellent and to help to obtain consensus, that is what finally it enriches > these discussions, all it in a democratic atmosphere. > > Is important then to remember that the Ministry of the Technologies > of Information and the Communications has under its responsibility > policy definition, the activities of control and monitoring of > dominio.co <http://domino.co/>. > > Hay to emphasize that today dominio.co offers more value forthe community of > Internet. It allows him to the users to be recognized and tobe located in Internet a > global level, to take advantage of a standard world-wide class, with clear rules and > nondiscretionary of a single person. And this also has enormous > benefits that are translated in efficiency, service, capacity and price. > > Today we have good, advisable, interesting the dominion and most important, > result of a participativo process. We must contin! ue the taskof > to work in an ambient transparency and of respect in order to obtain more and > better benefits usuary them and to support the decisions made in > consensus and right context. > > Antonio Medina Go'mez > President > Colombian Association of Users of Internet > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-list… > > http://www.lacralo.org > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/0f5580174f.html --]]

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Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=�co=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=� =
by andrespiazzagpj＠hotmail.com April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=Èco=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=È = From: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com Thanks again, Alexander and Jorge. > Surely the young people and enthusiastic members of this list and > participant of the discussion will give body in the same one to which it adjusts > to the MoU and other normative documents. Every time the MoU and derivatives > applies to organizations first of all certified, is called onthese to decide how > unloads their responsibilities. Until now preoccupation has been only pronounced and it has been triedto know the position the local ALS in Colombia. It is not tried to exceed the frame the MoU. > If they are mistaken, or we were mistaken, will be at least in a discussion on > ICANN matter. Happily the participants of this list have been very > sparing in being against completely to the processing of other people's subjects, like > judgments from the foreigner to the actions of introduction of goods and > computer science services in the educative sector of a country, of which > luckyly arose very interesting and plural voices. > Your experience nobody ignores it nor questions. And it will continue being welcome! Greetings, Andrés _________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/9d58aac130.html --]]

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Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=�co=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=� =
by andrespiazzagpj＠hotmail.com April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=Èco=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=È = From: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com You won to me of hand, Alex. I also answer here > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 02:58:18 +0000 > From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx > To: jmamodio(a)gmail.com > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; to info(a)techlaw.com.ar > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Dominio.co... Contribution OFACUI to the list. > > Jorge, > > the mandate only worries those who represents (we represented) > organizations whose members us grant it, and is within the mission > of the ALAC. Each one has a surrender of accounts with its associate in > terms of the writings or incorporation papers of its associations > (some with more than 15 years of proven activity), its statutes, and > internal mechanisms of them. > > Espero that a careful reading of the message that I sent in answer to the one of > Daniel satisfies your necessity with precisions in this respect. > > If your question to Daniel is more specific or accompanies others > considerations I believe that all the delay has been had left of > to know them. > > If you are in this list of di! scussion without representing organization > some is possible that it agrees to take care of the obligations first of all of > that yes does it, given the constitution of ALAC and LACRALOlike > groupings of organizations. A explanation in this point. LACRALO IS a grouping of organizations and each one of those represents and must render accounts to its members. But also it accepts, it encourages and it promotes the participation of individuals. These individual today they straight have the same one to promote initiatives, to engage in a dialog in thelist, to participate in the teleconferencings. They do not vote, because in the Assembly in that we created LACRALO we did not find mechanisms so that they do it, but that must also change (I am determined to that thus it must be and am going to promote a form of vote for individuals in the next Assembly). > > If the cuestionamiento that beams to the affirmation of Daniel can > to extend to that you make a contribution on the substance of happiness > affirmation, the preoccupation between "stakeholders" of theregion motivated by > the evolution of the administration of ccTLD also of the region, I am > surely of which this contribution will be meditated, based on experience, > expressed with clarity, and formulated with consideration towards the others > participant, and for that reason positive and welcome. I believe that I have listened to a meditated contribution, cradle in experience leaves from Jorge in dialogues privados.Entiendo who talks about the lack of organicidad of some ALS. And we recognize that all does not have the same level of work, trajectory, public recognition and commitment towards the Internet users. If that is the affirmation,the installment. > > seems that in the subsequent interchange to the note of Daniel to whom > interpelas are elements that allow to determine that there is matter of > discussion and even contributes to need it. Hopefully that small effort > smoothes the way to your contribution in the terms of the previous paragraph. > > Warm greeting. > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Jorge ! Amodio wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:43:49 -0500 > > From: Jorge Amodio <jmamodio(a)gmail.com> > > To: to info(a)techlaw.com.ar > > Cc: Alexander Pisanty <apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx>, > > "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Subject: > > Windows-1252?Q?Re=A'_=5Blac=2Ddiscuss=2Des=5D_Dominio=Ãco=85_Aporte_DE_AC > > UI_a _ = [ Windows-1252 ] the list. > > > > 2010/4/22 Daniel Monastersky <danielmonastersky(a)gmail.com>: > > > I add Me to the preoccupation of Alex. We must intervene in the affair and > > > to notice that our mandate is exactly for avoiding that facts happen > > > like the one of CO > > > > Mandate on the part of that or representatndo to those who? > > > > Greetings > > Jorge > > _________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/c202b55491.html --]]

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Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=�co=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=� =
by andrespiazzagpj＠hotmail.com April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=Èco=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=È = From: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com Alexander, Jorge, Daniel, who rich contributions! I am going to be a little disordered because I want to respond underneath some commentaries in each mail, and will arrive some post office. Here I go. > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:01:09 +0000 > From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx > To: to info(a)techlaw.com.ar > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Dominio.co... Contribution OFACUI to the list. > > Daniel, > > would introduce a shade. > > we can to neither it touches us like community, nor it touches to ICANN, to take part in > the internal subjects of any country. We must have this VERY PRESENT premise. We cannot advise to the Board that takes part. Particularly they remember that > agreements of the World-wide Summit on the Society of the Information > contains an agreement, that fought to blood and fire, that no indicates that > country can take part in the administration of ccTLD of another one. > > the responsibility that is unquestionable and inclaudicable is the one to discuss, > to define, to spread and to return object from dialogue the conjunction of interests of > the local community of Internet (LIC) and global (GIC) before which > gives the responsibility of ccTLD. This is clear in the RFC 1519 and others > documents. This is our function. To count on 1 sóla ALS in Colombia is not the ideal situation but he is something. A pity that Antonio has retired of the Teleconferencing of yesterday when questions were made him on the matter. > > cannot be compatible with that responsibility an argumentation that no > gives certainty about the policies of ccTLD "stakeholders". > > To risk of happening to me of didactic for some, is necessary to remember that > "stakeholders" is "to which the subject goes to them in something", life, honor, > business, I interest, principles. He is never others, Alexander. It advanced! > > To the companies, institutions and organizations of our countries > must worry that a TLD arises (cc or g) that is lent to registries of > names that force them to defensive registries. >From AT Large, little we can say on the defensive registries, since they are not a so deep preoccupation of the users, although must know it. To registrars, ISPs, > etc. of the region worries the risk to them about confusion of its users and > everything what he forces to them to adapt his instructive ones, guides, documents and > operations (including antiSpam, phishing, etc.) This IF it is a central subject for us. > > and to all worries to us that bad examples spread. If something is not it, that > is clear. > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Daniel Monastersky wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:46:05 -0300 > > From: Daniel Monastersky <danielmonastersky(a)gmail.com> > > Reply-To: to info(a)techlaw.com.ar > > To: Alexander Pisanty <apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx> > &g! t; Cc: "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Subject: > > Windows-1252?Q?Re=A'_=5Blac=2Ddiscuss=2Des=5D_Dominio=Ãco=85_Aporte_DE_AC > > UI_a _ = [ Windows-1252 ] the list. > > > > I add Me to the preoccupation of Alex. We must intervene in the affair and > > to notice that our mandate is exactly for avoiding that facts happen > > like the one of CO > > > > > > Daniel > > > > > > > > > > Dr Daniel Monastersky > > Partner > > Techlaw | Lawyers > > to www.techlaw.com.ar > > > > CEO & Founder > > Robbed Identity > > www.identidadrobada.com > > > > > > > > day 22 of April of 2010 19:27, Alexander Pisanty > > <apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx> it wrote: > > > AndrÃ©s, Antonio, all, > > > > > > thousand excuses by not being able to participate in the today teleconferencing; my > > > plans was frustrated minute in the last. > > > > > &gt! ; Hopefully the subject that is in discussion, on co, allows u! s to exp lore > > > many to which it is related and is object of preoccupation and action of > > > our organizations, each one in individual and all altogether. > > > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > > > > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 > > > > > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > > > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > ! > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Andres Piazza wrote: > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:11:22 +0000 > > > > From: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com> > > > > To: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx, amedinagomez(a)gmail.com > > > > Cc: "[ Spanish Windows-1252 ] LACRALO" > > > > <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > > Subject: [ Windows-1252 ] RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] Dominio.co~E Aporte OF ACUI a > > > > > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Alexander, in the Teleconferencing that this happening in this > > > > same moment, I ask myself to him Antonio on this subject. > > > > Just tapeworm that to go away, asi that could not respond. > > > > > > > > Your I raise summarizes the preoccupation that habia raised and, also > > > > mia. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the contrib! ution. > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > &gt! ; > > > > > Andres > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:48:34 +0000 > > > > > From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx > > > > > To: amedinagomez(a)gmail.com > > > > > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Dominio.co... Contribution OF ACUI to the list. > > > > > > > > > > Antonio, > > > > > > > > > > but putting the things a little more in clear. Whenoriginally > > > > > proposed, ten years ago, that co could be used likealternative a > > > > > com > > > > > by the interested ones, armed the one of San QuintÃn because "it was tried > > > > > to sell > > > > > the name of the Mother country "or something of which this affirmation is not one > > > > > version > > > > > very exaggerated. > > > > > > > > > > the! process of the decade had like objective to create new rules for > > > > > new operator and to replace the previous one. > > > > > > > > > > Now the new rules is being read because co can be used > > > > > like alternative to com by the interested ones. > > > > > > > > > > How it explains ACUI or how ACUI reacts or how it denies like erroneous > > > > > ACUI this interpretation, that indeed could be erroneous or > > > > > incomplete? > > > > > > > > > > EYE: this question has meaning for the history of ccTLDs and by > > > > > as much for the history and the culture of Internetin the region, and by > > > > > possible extension of its criteria, in a species ofCompared Right, > > > > > a > > > > > other countries, thus to include/understand the precedent is important. Not > > > > > deals with an att! empt of interference of a country brother, respected and > &gt! ; > & gt; > wanted. > > > > > > > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > >. > > > > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > > > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > > > > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > > > > > > > > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > > > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > > > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > > > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 > > > > > > > > > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > > > > > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > > > > >! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > >. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, [ ISO-8859-1 ] Antonio Medina Go'mez wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:18:04 -0500 > >>>>> From: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] Antonio Medina Go'mez" <amedinagomez(a)gmail.com> > >>>>> To: "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" > >>>>> <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > >>>>> Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ Windows-1252 ] Dominio.co~E Aporte OF ACUI a > >>>>> > >>>>> list. > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear friends > >>>>> > >>>>> From the Colombian Association of Users of Internet we have been > >>>>> kind > >>>>> to the commentaries in relation to dominio.co and like ALS of Lacralo > >>>>> we want > >>&g! t;>> to make the following contributions. > >>>! >> > >>>>> Is of fundamental importance of mentioning that the evolution and development of > >>>>> > >>>>> dominions in Colombia associated to co has lived a complex process but > >>>>> also participativo. > >>>>> > >>>>> the interested ones in knowing some these aspects, can accede to > >>>>> vestibule of the Ministry of the Technologies of Information and > >>>>> Communications > >>>>> through the following connection > >>>>> http://www.mintic.gov.co/mincom/faces/index.jsp?id=1279 > >>>>> > >>>>> the Colombian Association of Users of Internet in thedevelopment of > >>>>> this > >>>>> process has participated actively in representation of the community of > >>>>> usuary of Internet of Colombia. > >>>>> > >>>>> Is necessary t! o mention that a public process was made at least - > >>>>> of 10 > >>>>> years -, in head of the Ministry of the Technologies of Information and > >>>>> Communications, MINTIC, process that has been characterized - like many > >>>>> others > >>>>> by being opened, transparent and participativo, and the different people > >>>>> and > >>>>> organizations who participated, at their moment presented/displayed publicly > >>>>> his > >>>>> points of view or written proposal, scene of > >>>>> respect and of consensus. > >>>>> > >>>>> These processes allowed him, to in that then Ministryof > >>>>> Communications, to establish, as much the model of management and administration > >>>>> like > >>>>> the inherent policies to that administration and in individual ! > >>>>> criteria > >>>>> necessa! ry for t he evaluation and selection of the organization in charge of > >>>>> administration. The last years, in this context a process was lived > >>>>> of > >>>>> well-known Licitation and openly socialized. > >>>>> > >>>>> In these processes ACUI participated making the corresponding contributions > >>>>> in > >>>>> work meetings that helped the Ministry to define aspects > >>>>> excellent and to help to obtain consensus, that is what finally > >>>>> enriches > >>>>> these discussions, all it in a democratic atmosphere. > >>>>> > >>>>> Is important then to remember that the Ministry of > >>>>> Technologies > >>>>> of Information and the Communications has under its responsibility > >>>>> policy definition, the activities of control and monitoring of > >>! >>> dominio.co <http://domino.co/>. > >>>>> > >>>>> Hay to emphasize that today dominio.co offers more value for > >>>>> community of > >>>>> Internet. It allows the users to be recognized and tobe located in > >>>>> Internet a > >>>>> global level, to take advantage of a standard world-wide class, with clear rules > >>>>> and > >>>>> nondiscretionary of a single person. And this also has enormous > >>>>> benefits that are translated in efficiency, service, capacity and price. > >>>>> > >>>>> Today we have a good, advisable, interesting dominionand the plus > >>>>> important, > >>>>> result of a participativo process. We must continue the task > >>>>> of > >>>>> to work in an ambient transparency and of respect in order to obtain more and > &gt! ;>>>> better benefits usuary them and to support t! he made decisions > >>>>> in > >>>>> consensus and right context. > >>>>> > >>>>> Antonio Medina Go'mez > >>>>> President > >>>>> Colombian Association of Users of Internet > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> lac-discuss-is mailing list > >>>>> lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>>>> > >>>>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-list… > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.lacralo.org > >>>>> > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/ma! ilman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dr Daniel Monastersky > > Partner > > Techlaw | Lawyers > > to www.techlaw.com.ar > > > > CEO & Founder > > Robbed Identity > > www.identidadrobada.com > > _________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/f2b95872dc.html --]]

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Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=�co=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=� =
by apisan＠servidor.unam.mx April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=Èco=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=È = From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx Jorge, thank you very much. Surely the young people and enthusiastic members of this list and participants of the discussion will give body in the same one to which she adjusts to the MoU and other normative documents. Every time the MoU and derivatives they apply to organizations first of all certified, is called on these to decide how they unload its responsibilities. If they are mistaken, or we were mistaken, it will be at least in a discussion on ICANN matter. Happily the participants of this list have been very sparing in being against completely to the processing of otherpeople's subjects, like judgments from the foreigner to the actions of introduction ofgoods and computer science services in the educative sector of a country, of which luckyly very interesting and plural voices arose. Your experience nobody ignores it nor questions. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Jorge Amodio wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:35:00 -0500 > From: Jorge Amodio <jmamodio(a)gmail.com> > To: Alexander Pisanty <apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx> > Cc: "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: > Windows-1252?Q?Re=A'_Re=A'_=5Blac=2Ddiscuss=2Des=5D_Dominio=Ãco=85_Aporte > _ DE_ACU = [ Windows-1252 ] I to the list. > > Dear Alexander, > > my question this motivated essentially by my curiosity in dealing with > to understand as > is the surroundings of dicusion of a particular subject likethe transition of > the administration > of ccTLD of Colombia. > > In that context and returning to the message of Daniel my interest is in > to know with greater > clarity as is the concrete facts and low the mandate of which organizacion or > grouping of organizations LACRALO must or not assume an executive position that > to my to understand not this defined in the signed MoU with ICANN or the document of > Operative Principles of LACRALO. > > For your informa! tion, I participate in this list, asi like in others > ready opened and you publish > of ICANN like individual user, at the moment I do not represent any > organizacion > in individual and my opinions is personal cradles in almost 30 years > of experience > in the sector of tecnologias of the information and telecommunications. > > Warm Greeting > Jorge > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/69ec4626c3.html --]]

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Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=�co=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=� =
by jmamodio＠gmail.com April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=Èco=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=È = From: jmamodio(a)gmail.com Dear Alexander, my question this motivated essentially by my curiosity in dealing with to understand as it is the surroundings of dicusion of a particular subject likethe transition of the administration of ccTLD of Colombia. In that context and returning to the message of Daniel my interest it is in to know with greater clarity as is the concrete facts and low the mandate of which organizacion or grouping of organizations LACRALO must or not assume an executive position that to my to understand not this defined in the signed MoU with ICANN or the document of Operative principles of LACRALO. For your information, I participate in this list, asi like in others open lists and you publish of ICANN like individual user, at the moment I do not represent any organizacion in individual and my opinions they are personal cradles in almost 30 years of experience in the sector of tecnologias of the information and telecommunications. Warm Greeting Jorge _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6e2a02299e.html --]]

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Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=�co=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=� =
by apisan＠servidor.unam.mx April 23, 2010

April 23, 2010

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?windows-1252?q?Dominio=Èco=85_Aporte_DE_ACUI _ = =?windows-1252?q?a_la_lista=È = From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx Jorge, the mandate only worries those who represents (we represented) organizations whose members us grant it, and are within the mission of the ALAC. Each one has a surrender of accounts with its associate in terms of the writings or incorporation papers of its associations (some with more than 15 years of proven activity), its statutes, and internal mechanisms of them. I hope that a careful reading of the message that I sent in answer to the one of Daniel satisfies your necessity with precisions in this respect. If your question to Daniel is more specific or they accompany others considerations I believe that all the delay has been had left of to know them. If you are in this list of discussion without representing organization some is possible that it agrees to take care of the obligations first of all of who yes do it, given the constitution of ALAC and LACRALO like groupings of organizations. If the cuestionamiento that beams to the affirmation of Daniel can to extend to that you make a contribution on the substance of happiness affirmation, the preoccupation between "stakeholders" of the region motivated by the evolution of the administration of ccTLD also of the region, I am surely of which this contribution will be meditated, based on experience, expressed with clarity, and formulated with consideration towards the others participants, and for that reason positive and welcome. It seems that in the subsequent interchange to the note of Daniel to whom interpelas are elements that allow to determine that there is matter of discussion and even contributes to need it. Hopefully that small effort smooth the way to your contribution in the terms of the previous paragraph. Warm greeting. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Jorge Amodio wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:43:49 -0500 > From: Jorge Amodio <jmamodio(a)gmail.com> > To: to info(a)techlaw.com.ar > Cc: Alexander Pisanty <apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx>, > "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: > Windows-1252?Q?Re=A'_=5Blac=2Ddiscuss=2Des=5D_Dominio=Ãco=85_Aporte_DE_AC > UI_a _ = [ Windows-1252 ] the list. > > 2010/4/22 Daniel Monastersky <danielmonastersky(a)gmail.com>: > > I add Me to the preoccupation of Alex. We must intervene in the affair and > > to notice that our mandate is exactly for avoiding that facts happen > > like the one of CO > > Mandate on the part of that or representatndo to those who? > > Greetings > Jorge > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ed5163f5b6.html --]]

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