January 2012 - lac-discuss-en

Re: [lac-discuss-en] LACRALO Proposal for FY13 ; multi-day workshop at LACIGF August 2012
by carlos dionisio aguirre Jan. 10, 2012

Jan. 10, 2012

Very Good, specially because no one made a different proposal. Well done Dev Enviado desde mi dispositivo inalámbrico BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 23:43:58 To: <lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [lac-discuss-en] LACRALO Proposal for FY13 ; multi-day workshop at LACIGF August 2012 Dear All, I've read the comments and I've come up with a proposal to have a multi-day workshop during the LACIGF conference on new gTLDs The intention is to have sessions throughout the 3 day LACIGF conference about the new gTLD program and its implications and a fourth day immediately after the conference for LACRALO ALS reps to meet F2F to discuss strategies to better collaborate within LACRALO to better contribute to ICANN policy discussions. I've done a draft proposal at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yKwnGdn37E_xVPOgDlS_zM2xsPslXgTfb3vupgo… using the prescribed form as required by ICANN Finance. Since the deadline IS today, immediate thoughts/comments appreciated. Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en

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SOPA & PIPA - Your Uncle Sam At at [Nasty] Piece of Work
by Carlton Samuels Jan. 10, 2012

Jan. 10, 2012

It is VERY important that you pay attention to these matters now in train in the U.S. Congress. The notions these bills seek to codify are undoubtedly of concern but what's included for remedy represent the most pernicious extra-territorial reach of the USG and an insufferable virtual land grab. Never mind Google and them being in opposition. What you should know is these bills represent a blight on your own prospects in the global digital economy. For those of you who in Jamaica who recall McDonald's [of Big Mac fame] attempt to frighten a small mom-and-pop eatery here, magnify that a million times. http://www.inc.com/eric-schurenberg/3-More-Reasons-SOPA-Ought-to-Scare-You.… - CAS ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================

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proposals for ALAC gTLD Objection Process notes and flowchart
by Dev Anand Teelucksingh Jan. 10, 2012

Jan. 10, 2012

Dear All, Please find attached two PDFs, one on notes regarding the proposed gTLD ALAC Objection Process and a 4 page flowchart of the proposed ALAC gTLD Objection Process for consideration by the new gTLD At-Large WG for their conference call on January 9 2012 at 1400 UTC (https://community.icann.org/x/6YbbAQ) Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA
by carlos dionisio aguirre Jan. 9, 2012

Jan. 9, 2012

Sometimes when somebody said the truth sounds bad or somebody think that is against his/her possitión, but things are not always like we want. I fully support what Jaqueline said. We need work to present a good proposal for 2012-2013 budget and wait the approval of it. Or find some sponsor who cover the expenses, of course that is very diFficult almost like achieve the ICANN support. My two cents. Enviado desde mi dispositivo inalámbrico BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 23:09:29 To: <lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA I think we need to agree to disagree on the value of face to face meetings. I don't personally see the need for General Assemblies funded by ICANN, and LACRALO is the only RALO asking for them regularly. However, if LACRALO wants one, it needs to have that put into the budget TOMORROW for 2012-2013. There was no budget item for a GA in the 2011-2012 budget. There WAS funding for 6 ALS reps plus the Officers of the RALO to go to Costa Rica in the 2011-2012 budget, and LACRALO gave up the funding to AFRALO for the Dakar meeting. I presumed when I saw that agreement on the list several months ago, that the idea of a GA in Costa Rica had been cancelled. I agree that it would be perfect for companies that make $$ off the Internet to support end-user participation, which is why I suggested months ago before we gave up the funding from ICANN that we did have, that we supplement ICANN's funding for our 6 + 5 representatives by getting sponsorship from such companies to bring the rest of the ALSes. That suggestion was not acted upon. I still believe that the showcase is a valuable undertaking, and it is budgeted for 2011-2012, so there is the small funding for that event remaining. Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 4:38 PM, <marcelotelez(a)internauta.org.ar> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re: RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA > From: marcelotelez(a)internauta.org.ar > > Happy 2012 for everyone s. > > > From surfer Argentina share what Sylvia as expressed by both > by JosOvidio. > > > Organizations that represent who they roll the tremendous > machinery of the global industry of software, hardware, services > the Internet, Telcos, ICANN & Co. to our use and consumption of goods > and > services have to be taken into account a bit more, so > we have to define as an issue of the Economic to the implemen Showcase > with the physical presence of the ALS of the upcoming meeting no less than > in Costa Rica (country that owes as much as a few of the Economic > Development > the opportunities from allle gave Intel and other companies > we are talking about) is deliberately distract discusin. > > > The development of a General Assembly in Large Structures > of the regions should be on the agenda if the Board of ICANN > is that they have due respect for the users / consumers / subjects > right to maintain the ICT industry > > > And estms it clear that players who are the strengths of this ms > business (entindase we talked about companies in the ICT sector) have > to be held accountable in realizing this type of event > ATTENDANCE, which strengthen and much the rest of the meetings and > Online constantly maintain this and other Organizations > Regional Outreach. > > > Those who use the issue as an excuse not to pursue budget for the > Assembly and defined in Dakar scheduled to be held this year in progress, > axis is only diverting the issue. > > > On the other hand fully agree with the point made by Sylvia > function of face meetings, in a world of bits and bytes is an > direct contact irreplaceable people. > > > Greetings to all s > > > Marcelo Telecast > Posadas, Misiones > Argentina republic > Vice Internauta > Argentina Argentina Association of Internet Users > http://www.internauta.org.ar > FLUI - Federacin Latin American Internet users > http://www.fuilatin.org > Facebook: Marcelo Telecast > Twitter: @ mtelez > Skype: omtelez > Mobile: +54 9 376 493-2799 > > > * "An economist there is nothing mysterious or inaccessible to the > understanding of > man in the street. If there is a mystery, lies in the hidden PURPOSE l > economist can pursue and that is none other than the disimulacin of > concrete interest that is served *. " > * Arturo Jauretche * > _______________________________________________ > > > > [[--Original text (es) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/a8ffe3a49d.html > --]] > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA
by marcelotelez＠internauta.org.ar Jan. 9, 2012

Jan. 9, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA From: marcelotelez(a)internauta.org.ar Happy 2012 for everyone s. From surfer Argentina share what Sylvia as expressed by both by JosOvidio. Organizations that represent who they roll the tremendous machinery of the global industry of software, hardware, services the Internet, Telcos, ICANN & Co. to our use and consumption of goods and services have to be taken into account a bit more, so we have to define as an issue of the Economic to the implemen Showcase with the physical presence of the ALS of the upcoming meeting no less than in Costa Rica (country that owes as much as a few of the Economic Development the opportunities from allle gave Intel and other companies we are talking about) is deliberately distract discusin. The development of a General Assembly in Large Structures of the regions should be on the agenda if the Board of ICANN is that they have due respect for the users / consumers / subjects right to maintain the ICT industry And estms it clear that players who are the strengths of this ms business (entindase we talked about companies in the ICT sector) have to be held accountable in realizing this type of event ATTENDANCE, which strengthen and much the rest of the meetings and Online constantly maintain this and other Organizations Regional Outreach. Those who use the issue as an excuse not to pursue budget for the Assembly and defined in Dakar scheduled to be held this year in progress, axis is only diverting the issue. On the other hand fully agree with the point made by Sylvia function of face meetings, in a world of bits and bytes is an direct contact irreplaceable people. Greetings to all s Marcelo Telecast Posadas, Misiones Argentina republic Vice Internauta Argentina Argentina Association of Internet Users http://www.internauta.org.ar FLUI - Federacin Latin American Internet users http://www.fuilatin.org Facebook: Marcelo Telecast Twitter: @ mtelez Skype: omtelez Mobile: +54 9 376 493-2799 * "An economist there is nothing mysterious or inaccessible to the understanding of man in the street. If there is a mystery, lies in the hidden PURPOSE l economist can pursue and that is none other than the disimulacin of concrete interest that is served *. " * Arturo Jauretche * _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/a8ffe3a49d.html --]]

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RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA
by sylvia＠prontocl.com.br Jan. 9, 2012

Jan. 9, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA From: sylvia(a)prontocl.com.br Exactly Fatima, serams expensive (as it should be taken into account extra cost of ALS members estn and process costs within ICANN normal and Fellow). The purpose of matching the general assemblies of the meetings ICANN is to give an opportunity for the ALS to know how the world works ICANN, exactly the same PURPOSE Fellowship program that ttbNL> know so well. On the other hand, according to the results of the survey respondents the ALS LACRALO about their relationship with their ccTLDs, we know that it is very low or nonexistent, and therefore not sde where the idea that ccTLDs are willing to give financial support to our Assembly General. Regards Sylvia ----- Mensagem original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome fatimacambronero(a)gmail.com Posted in: Sunday, January 8, 2012 14:02 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] LACRALO GENERAL ASSEMBLY 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA [[- Translated text (in -> is )--]] Subject: Re: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA A from: fatimacambronero(a)gmail.com Jacqueline, This could be a good idea if we can not make our General Assembly in Costa Rica. But in this case the necessary resources may be greater than necessary General Assembly in Costa Rica. Maybe we can start working for the AG in conjunction with LACIGF this year (usually done in August and we will be facing a new ICANN fiscal year, and maybe we can have your financial support). It is a plan B that may be worth considering .... Thanks Jacquie. FÃ¡tima 01/07/2012 Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> > I think it's committed, but it depends on what is considered > commitment... there's been a lot of $$ input into ways for online > activity, for translations of documents (more needed, but a BIG > improvement from 5 years ago), the Fellowship programme and access to > ICANN processes for a lot of people from the developing world. The GA > is important to LACRALO, but it isn't contracted, nor is it a request > from other RALOs as far as I know. > > You know there is a negative perception with regard to travel support > from many people outside ALAC - the idea of participating in ICANN, > via working groups, mailing lists etc vs "getting a paid holiday". And > with the Accountability and Transparency issues, it's important for > ICANN to look at perception. (The Dakar hotel PR fiasco didn't do much > to make the At Large look accountable and responsible) > > Also, a GA at an ICANN meeting will have LACRALO ALSes in their own > meeting, separate and distinct from the ICANN meeting, at least for > the 2-3 days of the GA. So why does the GA have to coincide with the > regional ICANN meeting? The LACIGF always has representatives of the > ALSes, we could piggyback the GA onto that next year, or in 2013 and > spend time and energy getting funding and organising it as a major > regional end-user event! > > It's as important for us to show commitment to ICANN and to IG policy > development in the region as it is for us to see that ICANN is > committed to us. > > > Jacqueline A. Morris > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and > Free. (after Chris Lehmann ) > > > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Fatima Cambronero > <fatimacambronero(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes, Jacquie, LACRALO is the largest RALO (38 members), BUT more > > than > half > > of ALSs, are inactive ALSs. > > > > Seem that we are expert in Outreach but not in participation, > > engagement > and > > outcomes. > > > > Do we know how many ALSs are attending to Costa Rica meeting without AG? > > > > We are committed to LACRALO but, is ICANN committed to us?? > > > > > > Fatima > > > > > > > > > > 2012/1/7 Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> > >> > >> Given that the deadline for ICANN Travel forms is MONDAY, I doubt > >> that there will be all ALSes attending, and hence a LACRALO GA. But > >> I think that it would be a wasted opportunity to cancel the > >> Showcase, as it is a great opportunity to let the ICANN community > >> know that LACRALO is the largest RALO (38 members) and has been > >> instrumental in the creation and ongoing growth of ICANN's translation > >> > >> Jacqueline A. Morris > >> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible > >> and Free. (after Chris Lehmann ) > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 11:46 AM, <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> wrote: > >> > > >> > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > >> > > >> > Subject: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA > >> > From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > >> > > >> > LACRALO Dear companions: > >> > > >> > > >> > New year, renewed energies, many achievements to conquer. > >> > > >> > > >> > We are in January and the upcoming San Josde Meeting of Costa Rica. > >> > > >> > > >> > I would like to know how we go with the preparations for the > >> > Assembly as expected General LACRALO. > >> > > >> > > >> > We talked a lot about this, but so far we have no > >> > definicin-response from ICANN. > >> > > >> > > >> > Someone may tell? > >> > > >> > > >> > I still insist that there will make sense to make a LACRALO > >> > Showcase, without estn all ALS present as was the case of > >> > Cartagena, and is informacinrpida why we need so that the same > >> > may prepare the material as necessary. > >> > > >> > > >> > Greetings to all, > >> > > >> > > >> > Sylvia > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Described: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/f126045d4c.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA
by salgueiro.jo＠gmail.com Jan. 9, 2012

Jan. 9, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: RES: RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA From: salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com E agree with Sylvia that reinforces my point. Let's do a showcase to demonstrate that ICANN incomplete given PARTICIPATION users when we really do not take into account and so convalidaramos the position of ICANN to the detriment of public our position. Otherwise, looking at the page of RALO and ready. No doubt many aparecerna when traveling, it happened Mjico, but There are those who have participated over the years and deserve to be present at the general assembly and the reunin RALO ICANN. We mainly civil society organizations do not have funds to travel to this type of event. Whatever situacin filed with the Dakar hotel MUST NOT be excuse not to conduct this meeting. If there is real reason ALGN transparent and say it. I think the relationship should be ICANN-users two-way JOS ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of sylvia(a)prontocl.com.br Posted on: Monday, January 9, 2012 11:23 a.m. To: 'Vanda UOL'; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] RES: RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA Dear Wanda, I'm sorry, but I can not agree with you. No representatives of the ALS, the representativeness nica is the same show can be found online in the man page LACRALO. True representation is shown as it did in Dakar AFRALO the greatest of his ALS present (conocindose between them and having the opportunity to see the world Icann) The reasons for not making the showcase without ALS present is simple: 1) not spend so few resources available to the Ralos ICANN. 2) We did one in December 2010 in Cartagena. Regards Sylvia ----- Mensagem original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome UOL Vanda Posted in: Monday, January 9, 2012 12:13 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: [lac-discuss-en] RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA I agree com Jaqueline. We must continue to sample com, Ascom's Dems did in their regions. We have much to present. I see no reason to not! It is an opportunity for the Dems know that LACRALO has representativeness hugs ----- Mensagem original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com Posted in: Saturdays, 7 de janeiro, 2012 14:19 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] LACRALO GENERAL ASSEMBLY 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA [[- Translated text (in -> is )--]] Subject: Re: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA A from: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com Given that the closing date for forms is the ICANN Travel Monday, I do not think habrtodos those attending ALS, and therefore, a LACRALO GA. But I think that will be a missed opportunity to cancel Sample, as it is a great opportunity for the ICANN community known to be most RALO LACRALO (38 members) and has been instrumental in the continued growth creaciny program translation of ICANN ... Jacqueline A. Morris The technology should be like oxygen: ubiquitous, necessary, and Invisible Free. (AfterChris Lehmann) On Thu, January 7, 2012 at 11:46 AM, <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA > From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > LACRALO Dear companions: > > > New year, renewed energies, many achievements to conquer. > > > We are in January and the upcoming San Josde Meeting of Costa Rica. > > > I would like to know how we go with the preparations for the Assembly > as expected > General LACRALO. > > > We talked a lot about this, but so far we have no > definicin-response from ICANN. > > > Someone may tell? > > > I still insist that there will make sense to make a LACRALO Showcase, > without estn all ALS present as was the case of Cartagena, and is > informacinrpida why we need so that the same may > prepare the material as necessary. > > > Greetings to all, > > > Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Described: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil > > > > > > > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/5383f57787.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA
by fatimacambronero＠gmail.com Jan. 9, 2012

Jan. 9, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: RES: RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA From: fatimacambronero(a)gmail.com Vanda, Sylvia, all With respect to the Showcase, personally I agree with Sylvia. I plantieste item at the first conference we had on the Showcase. I do not think that makes sense to do a showcase, to be of all ALS in Regina, when in Costa Rica will be a very few ALS represented. In addition, tell us that there are no resources to make the AG .... but sto make a Showcase? I think there are other things more important resources quusar our region. Regards, Fatima On January 9, 2012 12:52, <sylvia(a)prontocl.com.br> escribitbNL> > Estimada Vanda, lo siento, pero no puedo estar de acuerdo contigo. > Sin los representantes de las ALSs, la única representatividad que > mostraremos es la misma que se puede encontrar en Internet en la página de > LACRALO. > La verdadera representatividad se muestra como lo hizo AFRALO en Dakar con > la mayoría de sus ALSs presentes ( conociéndose entre ellos y teniendo la > oportunidad de conocer el mundo Icann ) > Las razones para no hacer el showcase sin las ALSs presentes es simple: 1) > no gastar los tan escasos recursos que ICANN dispone para las Ralos. > 2) hicimos uno en diciembre 2010 en Cartagena. > > Saludos > Sylvia > > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de Vanda > UOL > Enviada em: lunes, 09 de enero de 2012 12:13 > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: [lac-discuss-es] RES: LA ASAMBLEA GENERAL LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, > COSTA RICA > > Estoy de acuerdo com Jaqueline. Debemos seguir com la muestra, así como los > demás hicieron en sus regiones. Tenemos mucho a presentar. No veo razón > para > no hacerlo! Es una oportunidad para que los demás sepan que LACRALO tiene > representatividad abrazos > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de > jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com Enviada em: sábado, 7 de janeiro de 2012 14:19 > Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] LA ASAMBLEA GENERAL LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, > COSTA RICA > > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > Asunto: Re: LA ASAMBLEA GENERAL LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA A > partir de: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com > > Teniendo en cuenta que la fecha límite para las formas de viaje ICANN es > el > lunes, no creo que habrá todos los que asisten a ALS, y por lo tanto, una > GA LACRALO. Pero creo que que sería una oportunidad perdida para cancelar > la Muestra, ya que es una gran oportunidad para que la comunidad de ICANN > sabe que es LACRALO la mayor RALO (38 miembros) y ha sido instrumental en > el creación y el crecimiento continuo del programa de traducción de ICANN > ... > > > Jacqueline A. Morris > La tecnología debe ser como el oxígeno: ubicua, necesaria, Invisible y > Libre. (AfterChris Lehmann) > > > > > > > El Jue, 07 de enero 2012 a las 11:46 AM, <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> > escribió: > > > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > > > Subject: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA > > From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > > > LACRALO Dear companions: > > > > > > New year, renewed energies, many achievements to conquer. > > > > > > We are in January and the upcoming San Josde Meeting of Costa Rica. > > > > > > I would like to know how we go with the preparations for the Assembly > > as expected > > General LACRALO. > > > > > > We talked a lot about this, but so far we have no > > definicin-response from ICANN. > > > > > > Someone may tell? > > > > > > I still insist that there will make sense to make a LACRALO Showcase, > > without estn all ALS present as was the case of Cartagena, and is > > informacinrpida why we need so that the same may > > prepare the material as necessary. > > > > > > Greetings to all, > > > > > > Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Described: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/1da94a7924.html --]]

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RES: RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA
by sylvia＠prontocl.com.br Jan. 9, 2012

Jan. 9, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: RES: RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA From: sylvia(a)prontocl.com.br Dear Wanda, I'm sorry, but I can not agree with you. No representatives of the ALS, the representativeness nica is the same show can be found online in the man page LACRALO. True representation is shown as it did in Dakar AFRALO the greatest of his ALS present (conocindose between them and having the opportunity to see the world Icann) The reasons for not making the showcase without ALS present is simple: 1) not spend so few resources available to the Ralos ICANN. 2) We did one in December 2010 in Cartagena. Regards Sylvia ----- Mensagem original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome UOL Vanda Posted in: Monday, January 9, 2012 12:13 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: [lac-discuss-en] RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA I agree com Jaqueline. We must continue to sample com, Ascom's Dems did in their regions. We have much to present. I see no reason to not! It is an opportunity for the Dems know that LACRALO has representativeness hugs ----- Mensagem original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com Posted in: Saturdays, 7 de janeiro, 2012 14:19 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] LACRALO GENERAL ASSEMBLY 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA [[- Translated text (in -> is )--]] Subject: Re: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA A from: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com Given that the closing date for forms is the ICANN Travel Monday, I do not think habrtodos those attending ALS, and therefore, a LACRALO GA. But I think that will be a missed opportunity to cancel Sample, as it is a great opportunity for the ICANN community known to be most RALO LACRALO (38 members) and has been instrumental in the continued growth creaciny program translation of ICANN ... Jacqueline A. Morris The technology should be like oxygen: ubiquitous, necessary, and Invisible Free. (AfterChris Lehmann) On Thu, January 7, 2012 at 11:46 AM, <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA > From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > LACRALO Dear companions: > > > New year, renewed energies, many achievements to conquer. > > > We are in January and the upcoming San Josde Meeting of Costa Rica. > > > I would like to know how we go with the preparations for the Assembly > as expected > General LACRALO. > > > We talked a lot about this, but so far we have no > definicin-response from ICANN. > > > Someone may tell? > > > I still insist that there will make sense to make a LACRALO Showcase, > without estn all ALS present as was the case of Cartagena, and is > informacinrpida why we need so that the same may > prepare the material as necessary. > > > Greetings to all, > > > Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Described: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil > > > > > > > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/158cd6358e.html --]]

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RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA
by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org Jan. 9, 2012

Jan. 9, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: RES: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org I follow the line of opinion of JosOvidio. Users organizations have to prove anything more of everything they have done in these 5 years of volunteering. How much business SLAs, who live on the contributions of the ysICANN Internet users, as administrator of the names and numbers of world domination. We are Internet users, as a society civil msdbil at the Economic, quin need help together 38 representatives. Or quizs to those who may be less participate and was exactly why sugerque be held one LACRALO survey in October, to know the number of ALS real assets which can participate in the upcoming General Assembly, but not did! The general meetings of LACRALO estn stipulated in the MOU from the 2006! (No need to say anything more about this). No doubt we have improved and this muchsimo is the work of all "Officers" who passed through and the wonderful staff LACRALO ICANN coloctbNL> to serve the region. Personally when I was "responsible" for organizing the General Assembly for the Cartagena meeting, ICANN's response was that it not be possible make at the time but sen 2012. Now we are in 2012, and some 2013 members suggest!??. Again I have to agree with Jose Ovidio when he says that it seems that "we are a figurehead" in the model ICANN's multistakeholder. Hablms enough already about the problems we faced those who stayed at the hotel Les Almadies in Dakar and the LACRALO which 2 members had to leave before the end of the dating. Only that it is irnico In addition to support 7 days in totally unpleasant conditions and without connexin Internet who does not I stayed at this hotel using this theme and this is also why and the excuse to deny what is due Regin. Ralos Estdemostrado other that when they come face to ALS face (and the last example is more than obvious AFRALO), the Regina advances InReach much. And even be most economical means of outreach. You can not understand the topic BUDGET, is the reason that LACRALO can not perform its General Assembly since 2009. Greetings to all, Sylvia Leite Herlein ----- Mensagem original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com Posted in: Saturdays, January 7, 2012 19:27 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] LACRALO GENERAL ASSEMBLY 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA [[- Translated text (in -> is )--]] Subject: Re: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA A from: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com I think it is compromised, but it depends on what is considered to compromise ...there has been a Montner from $ $ input as line activity to the translation of documents (you need more, but has a huge one improvement for 5 years), the scholarship program and access to ICANN processes for a large number of people across the developing world. LACRALO The GA is important, but not hired, nor is a request for RALO others what I s. You know there's a negative about percepcin trips support of many people outside ALAC - the idea of \u200b\u200bparticipating in ICANN, to travs of working groups, mailing lists, etc. vs "get some paid vacation. "And with the themes of responsibility and Transparency is important for ICANN to view percepcin. (The Dakar Hotel Public Relations fiasco did little to make the A look great responsibilities and accountability) In addition, a GA in a gathering of ICANN tendrALSes LACRALO in their own reunin, separate and distinct from reunin ICANN, at least for the 2-3 give the General Assembly.Sickened by quel GA has to match the regional reunin ICANN? The LACIGF always have representatives of the ALS, we piggyback the General Assembly that the AOO upcoming in 2013 and devote time and energy to get financiacin and the organization as a major regional user final event! It is so important for us to show commitment to ICANN and the IG policy development in the region as it is for us to see that ICANN is committed to us. Jacqueline A. Morris The technology should be like oxygen: ubiquitous, necessary, and Invisible Free. (AfterChris Lehmann) On Thu, January 7, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Fatima Cambronero <fatimacambronero(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, Jacquie, LACRALO is the largest RALO (38 members), BUT more than > half of ALSs, are inactive ALSs. > > Seem that we are expert in Outreach but not in participation, > engagement and outcomes. > > Do we know how many ALSs are attending to Costa Rica meeting without AG? > > We are committed to LACRALO but, is ICANN committed to us?? > > > Fatima > > > > > 2012/1/7 Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> >> >> Given that the deadline for ICANN Travel forms is MONDAY, I doubt >> that there will be all ALSes attending, and hence a LACRALO GA. But I >> think that it would be a wasted opportunity to cancel the Showcase, >> as it is a great opportunity to let the ICANN community know that >> LACRALO is the largest RALO (38 members) and has been instrumental in >> the creation and ongoing growth of ICANN's translation programme... >> >> Jacqueline A. Morris >> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible >> and Free. (after Chris Lehmann ) >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 11:46 AM, <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> wrote: >> > >> > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] >> > >> > Subject: GENERAL ASSEMBLY LACRALO 2012 - SAN JOSE, COSTA RICA >> > From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org >> > >> > LACRALO Dear companions: >> > >> > >> > New year, renewed energies, many achievements to conquer. >> > >> > >> > We are in January and the upcoming San Josde Meeting of Costa Rica. >> > >> > >> > I would like to know how we go with the preparations for the >> > Assembly as expected >> > General LACRALO. >> > >> > >> > We talked a lot about this, but so far we have no >> > definicin-response from ICANN. >> > >> > >> > Someone may tell? >> > >> > >> > I still insist that there will make sense to make a LACRALO >> > Showcase, >> > without estn all ALS present as was the case of Cartagena, and is >> > informacinrpida why we need so that the same may >> > prepare the material as necessary. >> > >> > >> > Greetings to all, >> > >> > >> > Sylvia >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Described: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/105f218d2c.html --]]

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