August 2023 - lac-discuss-en

[lac-discuss-es] Internet en la cuenca del Amazonas
by apisanty＠gmail.com Aug. 13, 2023

Aug. 13, 2023

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Colleagues, this note is not directly relevant to ICANN but is in a way indirectly, especially for our community, due to historical continuity of the almost only subject of "policy" in which we have had an internal debate intense and expressions towards ICANN processes. To refresh the memory and introduce the theme to new members, since they are old themes, These were the closed gTLDs .amazon and .patagonia. The note is that the Lula government, in Brazil, is spreading fiber optics to the Amazon basin, a region singularly difficult to connect due to their physical conditions, lack of infrastructure including roads and electricity, geographical dispersion of its population, and others: https://dplnews.com/lula-inaugura-red-de-fibra-optica-para-carrer-internet-… According to the note, the connection will eventually reach Leticia, Colombia, also an isolated place and in which the complications of the physical geography and poverty are added some others in the limits of the legal framework. This action is given without even citing the multilateral organization of the governments of the countries of this basin, whose absence was also notorious in the gTLD process. Hopefully those who live in these countries have opportunities to take advantage of this news to attract the attention of your authorities as well as civil society and technical community for a vision integral and that supports the development of both the infrastructure for Internet as its use in all layers, and also for strengthen the tools of those who legitimately, and not just in name, are concerned about the environmental devastation that according to multiple news continues in the region, with high-risk global effects. Alejandro Pisanty -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Faculty of Chemistry UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Deadline para el Programa CROP
by alberto＠soto.net.ar Aug. 13, 2023

Aug. 13, 2023

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org ________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Deadline para el Programa CROP
by lac-discuss-es＠atlarge-lists.icann.org Aug. 13, 2023

Aug. 13, 2023

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Good day everyone, Normally I don't like to answer on this list because although I am part of the region, I prefer to be observant. However, there are several inaccuracies in Harold's answer that I'd like to clarify. 1. Harold's current position at CROP is Program Coordinator (PC). Said position is in charge of approving or not the correct application to the CROP slots, in accordance with the requirements demanded by the program and obviously with the LAC strategic plan. The latter is presented by the region and approved by our GSE team, Rodrigo (both). 2. CROP was created as a program to be able to carry out outreach and engagement in the region that applies. It has NEVER been said that it applies only to managers. That this has been done in the region does not mean that no other person can apply for it. In fact, the above would go against the principle of equity, according to my own point of view. 3. The PC positions were chosen, initially of their own free will, that is, who raised their hands when it was said that there was a new pilot program. In the case of our region it was Dev and me. So I think the same principle should be used to choose someone else to help Harold with that task. I was really surprised not to see my name on the list of contact persons to manage CROP in the region, as I had been doing for a long time. However, no one asked me if I wanted or could continue. The reality is that, even if I wanted to, I couldn't because as some of you already know, in a few months I'll be taking office as President in another place within ICANN. So the position would remain vacant anyway. I hope I have helped to clarify some concerns in this regard. Cordially, Juan Manuel Rojas Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 18:14, lilian ivette de luque bruges<lilidebru(a)hotmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org ________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Deadline para el Programa CROP
by lilidebru＠hotmail.com Aug. 12, 2023

Aug. 12, 2023

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Dear Harold, Thank you very much for answering the email and for making all these clarifications because the crop is a concept that the vast majority of the region is unaware of, so I appreciate your response on that aspect. Regarding the conflict of interests, you are right, reviewing the other thin lines, there is no problem, it is good that you can continue in that role. As I told you, this question arises from the lack of knowledge we have about this crop mechanism. But what I do not thank you with all due respect, is that you have answered something that I asked you informally 15 days ago on WhatsApp privately here publicly on this mailing list, I would have been very grateful if you had answered me at WhatsApp because it was something informal that I have not even defined or specified nor was it simply a concern that I have and that for now is not of general interest. Best regard, Lilian Ivette De Luque Bruges Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: alberto(a)soto.net.ar <alberto(a)soto.net.ar> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 5:41:40 PM To: Harold Arcos <harold.arcos(a)gmail.com> Cc: lilian ivette de luque bruges <lilidebru(a)hotmail.com>; lac-discuss-es(a)icann.org <lac-discuss-es(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Deadline para el Programa CROP Alberto Harold, desde cuándo y quién definió que el Crop es para ser utilizado por el liderazgo? Gracias Alberto El 12 ago 2023 19:31, Harold Arcos <harold.arcos(a)gmail.com> escribió: Hola Lilian, espero estés bien. Estoy regresando a la ciudad desde esta mañana que salí temprano. En efecto como comentas, es una buena oportunidad para aclarar algunos conceptos. Como Juan Manuel y yo hemos explicado anteriormente, nosotros, ni alguien más en esas mismas funciones, puede o no aprobar el uso de un crop. La función de ese rol es revisar las formas, es decir, desde errores ortográficos, las fechas de la actividad, las fechas de salida y regreso, hasta los datos del evento y que el evento esté previsto dentro del plan que GSE-LAC (Parra, Saucedo) han discutido con el Liderazgo activo de la región (Presidente y Secretaria). En ningún caso la revisión permite "dar permiso" para ir a una actividad o no. Entonces también queda respondida tu consulta sobre: "sí puedes ir a Lacnic2023?". Pues ni Juan ni yo aprobamos o negamos el uso de crop. En su oportunidad, este año Claire informó en una presentación durante reunión mensual a dónde iría ella a representar la región y a cuáles actividades iríamos Sergio y mi persona. Puedo asumir que hará lo propio para dar a conocer en otra reunión el uso de otro crop. El crop no es "manejado" por alguien, es un esfuerzo de coordinación entre el equipo GSE-LAC y el liderazgo activo de la región para garantizar la participación de lacralo en actividades importantes de Difusión y Compromiso donde Icann tiene presencia. Históricamente, el liderazgo activo (presidencia y secretaría) de todos los períodos anteriores a Claire y Augusto han utilizado el crop para representarnos en actividades de GSE-LAC, Lacnic, Foros, etc etc. También han coordinado para que otros miembros puedan participar de Foros importantes como lo fue la asistencia a Cuba, de la cual hoy día tenemos el genial resultado de tenerlos como ALS acreditada. Son muchos los desafíos para invitar más países que aún no están registrados en Lacralo y dentro de ellos contactar con grupos que estén comprometidos con el trabajo que hay que hacer dentro de Icann, a saber, los PDP. Sobre la renuncia de Juan a su rol de revisor de crop, lo desconocía y estoy seguro de que será un gran tutor, como sabe serlo, del próximo miembro regional que podamos asignar. Juan ya estaba como revisor-aprobador de crop cuando yo fui asignado siendo secretario regional y aprendí mucho de él. En esa función de Revisor existen el 1er consultante; persona que revisa primero y el 2do consultante, como deducirás, es la persona que revisa de segundo. Entre Juan y este servidor, recuerdo que hemos alternado esa función. Sobre tu opinión, de que existe un conflicto de interés por ser revisor de crop, te la respeto pero no la comparto y luego de aclararte algunos conceptos espero que veas que no tiene fundamento alguno, ni por la función de revisar el registro de crop, ni por mi actual rol, ni por mi futuro rol. Seguimos en contacto, Saludos Harold ___________ sent from my H device sorry for the typos and brevity On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 1:30 PM lilian ivette de luque bruges <lilidebru(a)hotmail.com<mailto:lilidebru@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hola Alberto y todos. Es bueno que pongas el tema sobre la mesa, porque desde el 28 de Julio le hice una consulta a Harold sobre esto y aún estoy esperando respuesta, así que no es por falta de interés y se la tuve que hacer a él porque a Juan Manuel lo sacaron del crop sin siquiera tener la delicadeza de informarle, igual iba a renunciar, pero él se da cuenta porque yo le hago la consulta cuando él va a averiguar observa que ya él no está manejando el crop solo está Harold y creo que cuando Harold sea el presidente debería dar un paso al costado porque abría como un conflicto de intereses y procederíamos nosotros la comunidad informalmente por consenso escoger las dos personas que lo van a manejar. Hasta donde sé se aprobó un crop para Claire de un evento en el Caribe. Sí cometo alguna imprecisión agradezco aclarar. Es mi opinión. Cordial saludo, Lilian Ivette De Luque Bruges Obtener Outlook para Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es <lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of alberto(a)soto.net.ar<mailto:alberto@soto.net.ar> <alberto(a)soto.net.ar<mailto:alberto@soto.net.ar>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 12:31:11 PM To: lac-discuss-es(a)icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es@icann.org> <lac-discuss-es(a)icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es@icann.org>> Subject: [lac-discuss-es] Deadline para el Programa CROP Estimados, no se ha hablado nada aún, pero quiero recordar que el deadline para propuestas es el 01 Sepiembre 2023. Saludos cordiales Alberto Soto _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Deadline para el Programa CROP
by alberto＠soto.net.ar Aug. 12, 2023

Aug. 12, 2023

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org ________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Deadline para el Programa CROP
by harold.arcos＠gmail.com Aug. 12, 2023

Aug. 12, 2023

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Hello Lilian, I hope you are well. I'm coming back to the city from this I left early tomorrow. Indeed, as you say, it is a good opportunity to clarify some concepts. As Juan Manuel and I have previously explained, neither we nor anyone More on those same functions, you may or may not approve of using a crop. The function of this role is to review the forms, that is, from errors spelling, the dates of the activity, the departure and return dates, to the event data and that the event is scheduled within the plan that GSE-LAC (Parra, Saucedo) have discussed with the active Leadership of the region (President and Secretary). In no case does the review allow "giving permission" to go to an activity or not. Then your query about: "yes you can go to Lacnic2023?". Well, neither Juan nor I approve or we deny the use of crop. In her opportunity, this year Claire reported in a presentation during monthly meeting where she would go to represent the region and which activities Sergio and I would go. I can assume that it will do the same to make known in another meeting the use of another crop. the crop is not "managed" by someone, it is a coordination effort between the team GSE-LAC and the active leadership of the region to guarantee participation of lacralo in important Outreach and Engagement activities where Icann has presence. Historically, the active leadership (presidency and secretariat) of all periods before Claire and Augusto have used the crop to represent us in activities of GSE-LAC, Lacnic, Forums, etc etc. Also have coordinated so that other members can participate in Forums important as was the assistance to Cuba, of which today we have the great result of having them as an accredited ALS. The challenges are many to invite more countries that are not yet registered in Lacralo and within them to contact groups that are committed to the work that is to do within Icann, namely the PDPs. About Juan's resignation from his role as crop reviewer, he was unaware and I am sure that he will be a great tutor, as he knows how to be, of the next regional member that we can assign. Juan was already like crop reviewer-approver when I was assigned as regional secretary and I learned a lot from him. In this role of Reviewer there are the 1st consultant; person who checks first and the 2nd querent, as You will deduce, it is the person who checks second. Between Juan and this server, I remember we have toggled that role. Regarding your opinion, that there is a conflict of interest for being a reviewer of crop, I respect it but I don't share it and after clarifying some concepts I hope you see that it has no foundation, nor because of the function to review the crop log, neither for my current role, nor for my future role. Keep in touch, Greetings Harold ___________ sent from my H device sorry for the typos and brevity On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 1:30 PM lilian ivette de luque bruges < lilidebru(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Hola Alberto y todos. > > Es bueno que pongas el tema sobre la mesa, porque desde el 28 de Julio le > hice una consulta a Harold sobre esto y aún estoy esperando respuesta, así > que no es por falta de interés y se la tuve que hacer a él porque a Juan > Manuel lo sacaron del crop sin siquiera tener la delicadeza de informarle, > igual iba a renunciar, pero él se da cuenta porque yo le hago la consulta > cuando él va a averiguar observa que ya él no está manejando el crop solo > está Harold y creo que cuando Harold sea el presidente debería dar un paso > al costado porque abría como un conflicto de intereses y procederíamos > nosotros la comunidad informalmente por consenso escoger las dos personas > que lo van a manejar. Hasta donde sé se aprobó un crop para Claire de un > evento en el Caribe. > > Sí cometo alguna imprecisión agradezco aclarar. > > Es mi opinión. > > Cordial saludo, > > Lilian Ivette De Luque Bruges > > Obtener Outlook para Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> > ------------------------------ > *From:* lac-discuss-es <lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > on behalf of alberto(a)soto.net.ar <alberto(a)soto.net.ar> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 10, 2023 12:31:11 PM > *To:* lac-discuss-es(a)icann.org <lac-discuss-es(a)icann.org> > *Subject:* [lac-discuss-es] Deadline para el Programa CROP > > > Estimados, no se ha hablado nada aún, pero quiero recordar que el deadline > para propuestas es el 01 Sepiembre 2023. > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your > personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance > with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and > the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can > visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or > disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Deadline para el Programa CROP
by lilidebru＠hotmail.com Aug. 10, 2023

Aug. 10, 2023

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Hello Alberto and everyone. It's good that you put the issue on the table, because since July 28 I asked Harold about this and I'm still waiting for an answer, so it's not for lack of interest and I had to ask him because Juan Manuel they took him out of the crop without even having the decency to inform him, he was going to resign anyway, but he realizes because I ask him the question when he goes to find out he observes that he is no longer managing the crop there is only Harold and I think that when Harold The president should step aside because it would open up a conflict of interest and we, the community, would proceed informally by consensus to choose the two people who are going to manage it. As far as I know, a crop for Claire from an event in the Caribbean was approved. If I make any inaccuracies, I appreciate clarifying. It is my opinion. Best regard, Lilian Ivette De Luque Bruges Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es <lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of alberto(a)soto.net.ar <alberto(a)soto.net.ar> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 12:31:11 PM To: lac-discuss-es(a)icann.org <lac-discuss-es(a)icann.org> Subject: [lac-discuss-es] Deadline para el Programa CROP Estimados, no se ha hablado nada aún, pero quiero recordar que el deadline para propuestas es el 01 Sepiembre 2023. Saludos cordiales Alberto Soto

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[lac-discuss-es] Deadline para el Programa CROP
by alberto＠soto.net.ar Aug. 10, 2023

Aug. 10, 2023

[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Dear friends, nothing has been said yet, but I want to remind you that the deadline for proposals is September 1, 2023. Kind regards Alberto Soto

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Meeting invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 13:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Aug. 10, 2023

Aug. 10, 2023

**If you require a dial out or need to state an apology, please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number*** Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call is scheduled for Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 13:00 UTC for 90 mins, For other times: https://tinyurl.com/bdcv2jk5 The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/woFEDw<https://community.icann.org/x/iICCDg> Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566?pwd=UTJCdWRSZVdJNEhOYW02OVBqQVQ1Zz09 / Passcode: #CPWG2345* Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN, ES & FR: 3535 (subject to availability) Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: https://www.adigo.com/icann At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG)
by ICANN Policy Calendar Aug. 10, 2023

Aug. 10, 2023

**If you require a dial out or need to state an apology, please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number*** Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call is scheduled for Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 13:00 UTC for 90 mins, For other times: https://tinyurl.com/bdcv2jk5 The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/woFEDw<https://community.icann.org/x/iICCDg> Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566?pwd=UTJCdWRSZVdJNEhOYW02OVBqQVQ1Zz09 / Passcode: #CPWG2345* Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN, ES & FR: 3535 (subject to availability) Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: https://www.adigo.com/icann At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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