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Re: [Latingp] Latin script RZ-LGR v.7 dated 15 Aug 2021
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Aug. 31, 2021

Aug. 31, 2021

Dear Latin GP members, We have further reviewed the XML and found that the version previously submitted needs a few more update. Please find attached the update XML and HTML. List of attachments: * proposal-latin-lgr-15aug21-en-updated.xml * proposal-latin-lgr-15aug21-en-updated.html Edit log: 1. Update the MSR from MSR-4 to MSR5 in multiple places. 2. Implement full transitivity. Therefore, the 50 variant sets are exactly the same as what listed in Table 17 of the proposal. As this is aligned with the proposal document signed off by the GP, we plan to forward these to the IP by tomorrow around this time (25 Aug, 15:00UTC). Please let us know if you have any concerns. Best Regards, Pitinan From: Latingp <latingp-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Pitinan Kooarmornpatana via Latingp <latingp(a)icann.org> Reply-To: Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo(a)icann.org> Date: Monday, August 16, 2021 at 6:20 AM To: "latingp(a)icann.org" <latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [Latingp] Latin script RZ-LGR v.7 dated 15 Aug 2021 Dear Latin GP members, Please find attached the package of Latin RZ-LGR version 7, dated 15 Aug 2021. List of document and change logs. Document Change log proposal-latin-lgr-15aug21 IP feedback has been incorporated. The changes can be found in the redline version (proposal-latin-lgr-15aug21-v7-vs-v6.docx). Appendix A - Updated MSR during Latin GP work No change from version 6. Appendix B - Table of Languages Used to Develop Latin Script Repertoire. List of languages are separated by commas. Appendix C - Repertoire Table Grouped by Glyph The table row’s numbers has been refreshed. Appendix D - Variants Analysis This a cover page for appendix D. The list of D.x has been added. Appendix D.1 - Shape of Base Characters Section D.1.15 has been added to include the analysis of newly added code points from Kpelle and Serer. Appendix D.2 - Spacing of Base Characters No change from version 6. Appendix D.3 - Shape of Diacritics No change from version 6. The variant analysis of the newly added code points is in Appendix D.1. Appendix D.4 - Stacking of Diacritics No change from version 6. Appendix D.5 - IDNA 2003 Compatibility The changes can be found in the redline version (Appendix D.5 - IDNA 2003 Compatibility-v7-vs-v6). Appendix D.6 - Underlining Evaluation Process An ‘a’ was added in the first paragraph. Appendix D.7 - Generic Glyphs Suggested editorial changes have been incorporated. Appendix D.8 - Caron Above Additional explanation on t,l,d with Caron has been added. The changes can be found in the redline version (Appendix D.8 - Caron Above-v7-vs-v6). Appendix D.9 - Cross-script Variants Editorial update in the introduction paragraph. Appendix E - Visually Confusable Glyphs Additional effects from new code points and Greek proposal have been added. The changes can be found in the redline version (Appendix E - Visually Confusable Glyphs-v7-vs-v6). latin-test-labels-15aug21-en.txt First submission of test labels file. proposal-latin-lgr-15aug21-en.xml proposal-latin-lgr-15aug21-en.html All feedback has been incorporated. Please note that the variant mapping comment “Glyphs nearly identical due to font design” is consistently applied. As per agreed on the call on 12 August. This package has been finalized during the meeting and ready to be shared with the IP. These are being shared with the IP accordingly. However, if you have any further feedback. Please feel free to let us know. Regards, Pitinan

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[Tentative] Latin GP Meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Aug. 19, 2021

Aug. 19, 2021

Dear Latin GP This is a placeholder for the Latin GP call on Thursday 9 September, 16:00UTC. Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/98435828760 Meeting ID: 984 3582 8760 Passcode: 1F$^iEkt$# Regards, Pitinan

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Latin script RZ-LGR v.7 dated 15 Aug 2021
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Aug. 15, 2021

Aug. 15, 2021

Dear Latin GP members, Please find attached the package of Latin RZ-LGR version 7, dated 15 Aug 2021. List of document and change logs. Document Change log proposal-latin-lgr-15aug21 IP feedback has been incorporated. The changes can be found in the redline version (proposal-latin-lgr-15aug21-v7-vs-v6.docx). Appendix A - Updated MSR during Latin GP work No change from version 6. Appendix B - Table of Languages Used to Develop Latin Script Repertoire. List of languages are separated by commas. Appendix C - Repertoire Table Grouped by Glyph The table row’s numbers has been refreshed. Appendix D - Variants Analysis This a cover page for appendix D. The list of D.x has been added. Appendix D.1 - Shape of Base Characters Section D.1.15 has been added to include the analysis of newly added code points from Kpelle and Serer. Appendix D.2 - Spacing of Base Characters No change from version 6. Appendix D.3 - Shape of Diacritics No change from version 6. The variant analysis of the newly added code points is in Appendix D.1. Appendix D.4 - Stacking of Diacritics No change from version 6. Appendix D.5 - IDNA 2003 Compatibility The changes can be found in the redline version (Appendix D.5 - IDNA 2003 Compatibility-v7-vs-v6). Appendix D.6 - Underlining Evaluation Process An ‘a’ was added in the first paragraph. Appendix D.7 - Generic Glyphs Suggested editorial changes have been incorporated. Appendix D.8 - Caron Above Additional explanation on t,l,d with Caron has been added. The changes can be found in the redline version (Appendix D.8 - Caron Above-v7-vs-v6). Appendix D.9 - Cross-script Variants Editorial update in the introduction paragraph. Appendix E - Visually Confusable Glyphs Additional effects from new code points and Greek proposal have been added. The changes can be found in the redline version (Appendix E - Visually Confusable Glyphs-v7-vs-v6). latin-test-labels-15aug21-en.txt First submission of test labels file. proposal-latin-lgr-15aug21-en.xml proposal-latin-lgr-15aug21-en.html All feedback has been incorporated. Please note that the variant mapping comment “Glyphs nearly identical due to font design” is consistently applied. As per agreed on the call on 12 August. This package has been finalized during the meeting and ready to be shared with the IP. These are being shared with the IP accordingly. However, if you have any further feedback. Please feel free to let us know. Regards, Pitinan

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Re: [Latingp] Latin GP meeting
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Aug. 12, 2021

Aug. 12, 2021

Apologies as I can’t attend today. Best, Dennis From: pitinan.koo(a)icann.org When: 12:00 PM - 1:00 PM August 12, 2021 Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Latingp] Latin GP meeting Location: https://secure-web.cisco.com/17ippZgP6wmVDBtu-Z-_oISvK97os0gqDYFBhvEcnepElT… Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Dear Latin GP members, This is a gentle reminder for the Latin GP call on Thursday 12 August 2021 at 16:00UTC. Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/98435828760<https://secure-web.cisco.com/17ippZgP6wmVDBtu-Z-_oISvK97os0gqDYFBhvEcnepElT…> Meeting ID: 984 3582 8760 Passcode: 1F$^iEkt$# Agenda for the Latin GP meeting on 12 August 2021, 16:00UTC 1. Review the updated text in Appendix D.5 by Mats 2. Next steps Regards, Pitinan

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Latin GP meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Aug. 12, 2021

Aug. 12, 2021

Dear Latin GP members, This is a gentle reminder for the Latin GP call on Thursday 12 August 2021 at 16:00UTC. Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/98435828760 Meeting ID: 984 3582 8760 Passcode: 1F$^iEkt$# Agenda for the Latin GP meeting on 12 August 2021, 16:00UTC 1. Review the updated text in Appendix D.5 by Mats 2. Next steps Regards, Pitinan

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Call on 12 August 2021
by Mirjana Tasić Aug. 12, 2021

Aug. 12, 2021

Dear GP members, We can meet today to see if there is any comments to the changes Mats proposed and Denis agreed. That will be a very short call. If it appears that we have no quorum, Pitinan will send the new version of the Report with changes Mats made to the IP. I am travelling today, and I should be at home for the time of the call. Regards Mirjana

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Re: [Latingp] Updated text on dotless and dotted I (IDNA 2003)
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Aug. 9, 2021

Aug. 9, 2021

Hi Mats, Thank you for going through the comments… I have one follow up suggestion in the doc for your consideration. The rest looks good to me. Thanks. Dennis From: Mats Dufberg <mats.dufberg(a)internetstiftelsen.se> Date: Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 3:14 PM To: Dennis Tan Tanaka <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com>, ICANN Latin GP <Latingp(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Updated text on dotless and dotted I (IDNA 2003) Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Dennis, if you have the possibility, please review the updates I have done since many of them are in response to comments made by you. In the main document, I have added a reference to "locale" to decrease the risk that the readers will think that it is just a misspelling of "local". The reference point to text in Wikipedia. In section 6.4.2.2: I have added a pointer to the reference. In section D.5.2 (appendix D.5): I have tried to address the comments by Dennis. I have also updated how we talk about "locale" to be in line with the updated text in 6.4.2.2. I have done some small changes of the text to make it clearer. I have added text about the informal tests that we conducted with web browsers under Turkish locale. Please review. Mats -- --- Mats Dufberg mats.dufberg(a)internetstiftelsen.se Technical Expert Internetstiftelsen (The Swedish Internet Foundation) Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://internetstiftelsen.se/

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Updated text on dotless and dotted I (IDNA 2003)
by Mats Dufberg Aug. 7, 2021

Aug. 7, 2021

Dennis, if you have the possibility, please review the updates I have done since many of them are in response to comments made by you. In the main document, I have added a reference to "locale" to decrease the risk that the readers will think that it is just a misspelling of "local". The reference point to text in Wikipedia. In section 6.4.2.2: I have added a pointer to the reference. In section D.5.2 (appendix D.5): I have tried to address the comments by Dennis. I have also updated how we talk about "locale" to be in line with the updated text in 6.4.2.2. I have done some small changes of the text to make it clearer. I have added text about the informal tests that we conducted with web browsers under Turkish locale. Please review. Mats -- --- Mats Dufberg mats.dufberg(a)internetstiftelsen.se Technical Expert Internetstiftelsen (The Swedish Internet Foundation) Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://internetstiftelsen.se/

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Latin GP Meeting
by Pitinan Kooarmornpatana Aug. 5, 2021

Aug. 5, 2021

Dear Latin GP This is a gentle reminder for the Latin GP call on Thursday 5 August 2021 at 16:00UTC. Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/98435828760 Meeting ID: 984 3582 8760 Passcode: 1F$^iEkt$# Regards, Pitinan Agenda for the Latin GP meeting on 5 August 2021, 16:00UTC 1. Conclusion - which term to use for Sharp s in the Report 2. Reviewing each document with feedback incorporated. (Pitinan, please remove the items we finalized) * Appendix D.5 (IDNA2003 Compatibility: Review the additional introduction paragraph) * Appendix D.8 (Caron Above: Review the last paragraph explaining why the t,l,d with Caron are not variant with t,l,d apostrophe) * Appendix D.9 (Cross-Script Variant: Review the introduction paragraph to explain that the new code points are already taken into account of variant analysis ) 3. Status of test data set

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Agenda for the Latin GP meeting on 5 August 2021, 16:00UTC
by Mirjana Tasić Aug. 5, 2021

Aug. 5, 2021

Dear GP members, Here is the agenda proposal for the next call. Comments and suggestions are the most welcome. Regards Mirjana ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda for the Latin GP meeting on 5 August 2021, 16:00UTC 1. Conclusion - which term to use for Sharp s in the Report 2. Reviewing each document with feedback incorporated. (Pitinan, please remove the items we finalized) * Main Report - 6.4.2.1 i 6.4.2.2 (IDNA2003 Compatibility: Review the revised text by Bill) * Main Report – 6.5 (Transitivity: Review the IP’s suggested transitivity description in paragraph 2 and 3) * Main Report – 6.6 (Additional Discussion on Variants: Review text on Fula by Bill) * Main report - 6.7 (Complete Variant Sets: Review Table 17 and Mats suggestions) * Main report – 7 (WLE and Contextual rules: Review the added pointer to ‘action’ description) * Appendix D.5 (IDNA2003 Compatibility: Review the additional introduction paragraph) * Appendix D.8 (Caron Above: Review the last paragraph explaining why the t,l,d with Caron are not variant with t,l,d apostrophe) * Appendix D.9 (Cross-Script Variant: Review the introduction paragraph to explain that the new code points are already taken into account of variant analysis ) Note: Appendix D.2 and D.4 are not listed here as there is no further feedback on them. Also Pitinan and me, we accepted all editorial changes which need not to be discussed. 1. Status of test data set

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Fwd: Auto-response for your message to the "Comments-lgr-proposal-greek-script-15jul21" mailing list
by Mirjana Tasic Aug. 2, 2021

Aug. 2, 2021

Dear GP members, I have submitted our publi comment to Greek LGR proposal. Regards Mirjana > Begin forwarded message: > > From: comments-lgr-proposal-greek-script-15jul21-bounces(a)icann.org > Subject: Auto-response for your message to the "Comments-lgr-proposal-greek-script-15jul21" mailing list > Date: 2 August 2021 at 18:11:07 CEST > To: tasmirjana(a)gmail.com > > Thank you for participating in an ICANN Public Comment proceeding. > Your submission has been received by the ICANN organization (ICANN > org). > > The full text of your submission, including your comment, along with > your name and email address, will be published in the Public Comment > archive on ICANN org's website. Note: The publication of submissions > may be delayed until after a mailing list moderator reviews the > submission in order to reduce off-topic messages and unsolicited > commercial advertisements. > > By submitting your personal data, you agree that your personal data > will be processed in accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy, and you > agree to abide by the website Terms of Service. > > ICANN Privacy Policy: https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy > > Terms of Service: https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos > > If you did not intend to submit a public comment or if you have any > questions, please contact public-comment(a)icann.org.

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U+00DF LATIN SMALL LETTER SHARP S
by Mats Dufberg Aug. 2, 2021

Aug. 2, 2021

I think it should be LATIN SMALL LETTER SHARP S. See https://codepoints.net/U+00DF and https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0080.pdf (page 4) Mats -- --- Mats Dufberg mats.dufberg(a)internetstiftelsen.se Technical Expert Internetstiftelsen (The Swedish Internet Foundation) Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://internetstiftelsen.se/

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