December 2009 - lac-discuss-en

Re: [lac-discuss-en] ICANN Blog : Nick Ashton-Hart now Senior Director, Participation and Engagement
by Melody_Palmer＠heart-nta.org Dec. 8, 2009

Dec. 8, 2009

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Visa Issues for Nairobi Meeting
by Carlton Samuels Dec. 8, 2009

Dec. 8, 2009

Dear All: For those of us that are attending the Nairobi meeting, please pay close attention to the visa requirements. See this page for information: http://www.immigration.go.ke/index.php?id=46 Note carefully that depending on your schedule, you may need a transit visa as well. Visas are valid for between 1 - 3 months from the time of issue. Carlton Samuels

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LACRALO dashboard
by Dev Anand Teelucksingh Dec. 7, 2009

Dec. 7, 2009

Dear all, As LACRALO Secretariat, I have been working on a webpage for us to keep track of LACRALO activities and information about LACRALO. Here is the result so far : http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=r82Z8wLg9K4sGy8OPjLdofw&gid=4 At the top of the page, you will see several sections you can click on : 1) Stats This is a summary generated from the other sections 2) Action-Items These are action items that persons in LACRALO are working on. 3) ICANN-Policy-Issues These are the policy issues as read from the At-Large Policy Advice Development Schedule (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=rJKtp8gl3W5-ZcY_xMpPg5w) 4) ALSes A list of all the At-Large Structures (ALS) in LACRALO, sorted by country along with the ALS website, the ALS representative and the ALS representative email. 5) Countries Shows for each country in Latin America and the Caribbean, the number of ALSes in each territory (directly calculated from the ALSes section) and whether the country's ccTLD is in the ccNSO. This information will be useful for the upcoming ALS-ccNSO survey and for the next section 6) Country-breakdowns Using the information from the "ALSes" and "Countries" sections, a listing of countries grouped in several columns are dynamically generated. So we can see - countries with ALSes - countries with NO ALSes - countries whose ccTLD are in the ccNSO - countries whose ccTLD are NOT in ccNSO and combinations such as countries with NO ALSes and whose ccTLD are not in the ccNSO. Any ideas, comments or suggestions to improve this page? --- Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society, http://ttcsweb.org/ LACRALO Secretariat

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ALAC Director voting - teleconferece
by carlosaguirre62＠hotmail.com Dec. 7, 2009

Dec. 7, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: ALAC Director voting - teleconferece From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com Good Andres Work. It wanted to add something to your words. Participation is necessary but. REAL nonsingle PARTICIPATION and criticizes facil and vacia done by mail and despues nothing but. The participation must be done in the teleconferencings, WG`s or in documents. In the same order it is necessary that ALAC recognizes as well that isneeded synchronizes translation in Spanish for one better participation, recognizing that the Spanish is the third language in the network despues of ingles (for this is necessary to fight all the days. Somebody podria to make a document in Ingles???). my two cents. Carlos Dionisio Aguirreabogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 to www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar http://ar.ageiadensi.org _________________________________________________________________ To your BlackBerry him Messenger lack. Descargalo FREE here http://www.messengerentublackberry.com?ocid=WL_BB_LandPage_TagLine _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/9567e0f0d9.html --]]

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Fwd: [ALAC] Voting for At-Large Director
by Carlton Samuels Dec. 7, 2009

Dec. 7, 2009

I have copied my comments to the LACRALO discuss list for full and complete disclosure. Like all of you, I am very keen to have more participation. But my preference is for informed participation! This requires work....and attention....not just to the vote but before the vote. Carlton ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FWIW, I share the fundamental concerns outlined here by Alan. I have already outlined on this or other public list my own perceptions of what is important in deciding the At-Large Board seat; it begins with a thorough understanding of the role of the Board and the way Boards work in practice, followed by defining criteria fit to purpose of selecting candidates who are themselves fit for purpose. >From my working experience, it is highly desirable that all other things being equal, a Board member must have the wherewithal and room to shape decisions, even if your principal position is itself untenable or does not enjoy majority support. I know from experience that we have a fairly sizeable contingent of likely voters who tend to a more visceral decision-making routine; this is the stuff of the "heart" that was so ably encapsulated in argument this morning by Christopher Wilkinson. While I do not wish a "gamed" system, Tricia Drake's very sensible proposal for a hybrid voting system has some appeal for me because it gives us an opportunity to embrace the votes of the "heart" as well as those of the "head". And it also advances the idea I particularly share with Alan; the presumption that the vote is fair. I am also cheered that the Bigpulse expert thinks implementing a hybrid mechanism that addresses the issues I see is doable and in the short term. Carlton ================================================================================= On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: > > One of the issues that we must address in determining the overall process governing the selection of the At-Large Board Director is the adoption of a voting mechanism. > > It has been suggested that we use the Instant-Runoff voting as called for in our Rules of Procedure for other elections. I disagree (in fact I disagree that we should use it in the other elections, but that is not the subject of this discussion). > > I will present several separate arguments. > > First, I believe that the process is difficult for many people to get their mind around, unless they are VERY used to this process. With an Instant Runoff ballot, you need to rank the candidates in your order of preference. That sounds easy, but understanding HOW the votes will be ranked makes it a lot more difficult. Here is what you need to do: > > 1. To fill the first ballot position, put in the candidate that you want to win. That is easy. > 2. To fill the second candidate position, assume that the candidate that you put in above actually comes in dead last - who would you want to win in that case. > 3. To fill the third slot, assume that the after your first candidate came in dead last and was eliminated, your next choice above also came in dead last in the next round. > and so forth. > > I believe that the above process is very hard for people to actually think through. It is difficult to select the 2nd and 3rd candidate, having to accept that the candidate(s) that you REALLY want to win will come in at the bottom of the poll each time. > > > Second, if you look at the current Bylaws for the election of the GNSO and ccNSO Directors, you will find: > > GNSO: ... any such selection must have affirmative votes compromising sixty percent (60%) of all the respective voting House members. > > ccNSO: ... any such selection must have affirmative votes of a majority of all the members of the ccNSO Council then in office. > > Aside from the nicety of having a process which is in line with these two very visible ICANN bodies, I think that it is CRUCIALLY important that everyone and especially the other Board members know that the person put on the Board by At-Large was consciously and actively voted for by at least a majority of those eligible to vote. I do not believe that an Instant Runoff meets these criteria. > > > Third, the Instant Runoff voting method is convenient, but to quote Robert's Rules of Order, one of the authorities on such procedural matters: > > "...especially useful and fair in an election by mail if it is impractical to take more than one ballot. . . . In such cases it makes possible a more representative result than that under a rule that a plurality shall elect. . . . Preferential voting has many variations. [Instant runoff voting is the example given.] ...Although this type of preferential ballot is preferable to an election by plurality, it affords less freedom of choice than repeated balloting [the exhaustive ballot system], because it denies voters the opportunity of basing their second or lesser choices on the results of earlier ballots, and because the candidate in last place is automatically eliminated and may thus be prevented from becoming a compromise choice." > > In the case of the vote for At-Large Director, we are NOT under a particularly tight time constraint and we could allow for runoff ballots. Such runoffs not only allow a person to make an enlightened choice in the sure knowledge that their original choice has been disqualified, but ensures that the final choice was THE candidate selected by the majority (or more if we wish) of the voters in the final round. > > ============================= > > There will be a presentation and discussion of this at our teleconference - https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_call_at_…. > > You can find more information on Instant Runoffs at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_runoff. Note that the link within our Rules of Procedure is incorrect. > > Alan > > > _______________________________________________ > ALAC mailing list > ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org > ALAC Working Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac

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Summary of the Teleconferencing
by andrespiazzagpj＠hotmail.com Dec. 7, 2009

Dec. 7, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Summary of the Teleconferencing From: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com Considered, finishing finalizing the teleconferencing of AT Large on the process of selection for a Voting Director: In the same one, whose Agenda can be verified here: https://st.icann.org/alac_docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_call_at_… I by the Region was present Carlton, Carlos, Sylvia, Dev and (in addition to Raimundo Beca, of Chile, member of the Board). The first substantial topic to consider, has to do with the possibility of the verification of the results (to perceive that it was a right selection). Respect to the possibility was discussed of choosing direct and indirect systems. And a hybrid model. It was confirmed with the people of Big Pulse that is no technical subject that it prevents that "Vote of Preference" cannot exist eithernor that can be valid the alternative that "all the credited ALS have a vote". It was considered desirable that pudieramos to have this finalized process before the process of the Nomcom begins, the next year the ideal stage would be meeting of Brussels. By the way, the words of Patrick Vande Walle are very interesting. If each ALS has a vote can be an effective way to reflect the "will of Community AT Large" and on the other hand to involve to us. Particularly I see very interesting Option 6 https://st.icann.org/working-groups/index.cgi?At-Large%20Draft%20Procedure%… after the Teleconferencing of today. At the same time, it talked it with parallel Carlos in chat. It decided with this vision and it had some reservations to do. In case it is decided on a mechanism in where the Representatives in ALAC and the Presidents of the Thin ones have vote, he has been spokenin Seoul, and whom we were there of the region we have a similar vision (Carlton is the one who better can reflect it). Finally, Cheryl proposed to form a Subcommittee with each one of whichit was in the Teleconferencing (a number that assured representation all the regions) to observe these questions and finally to process a "White Paper" for the 22 of December (the Teleconferencing of ALAC of December) and taking wiki and a discussion in List. This subcommittee was conformed. Warm Greetings, Andrés Piazza President of LACRALO _________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6ba2e93984.html --]]

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by andrespiazzagpj＠hotmail.com Dec. 7, 2009

Dec. 7, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=Á_elecci=F3n_directa_individ = =?iso-8859-1?q?ual_o_no_-_LACRALO_-_punto_sustantivo_para_la_teleconferen= =?iso-8859-1?q?cia = From: andrespiazzagpj(a)hotmail.com Sylvia Thanks, I understand that the agreement is by options 4 and 5 (they arenot úlimas, since option 6 is strongly being also considered, as I commented in the summary mail). Greetings, Andrés > From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > To: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx > Date: Mon, 7 DEC 2009 07:01:27 -0200 > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: individual direct selection or not - LACRALO - point noun for the teleconferencing > > > Loved Alexander, > Coincido with you and inclusively already habiamos spoken onthis command post Seul. > All we know the dificil that is to obtain the participation of all when > we organized the ALAC Summit de Mexico. > Reason why I consider that the best thing would be not to consider the 2 last ones > options to conciderar them unproductive and of dificil accomplishment. And me > gustaria to add desnecesarias, since each Thin one already has chosen his > representing and its authorities for this type of desicionesamong others > things. > Greetings, > Sylvia > _________________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > Latin America & Re! gional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > > > > -----Mensagem original > Of: Alexander Pisanty [ mailto:apisan@servidor.unam.mx ] > Shipment command post: Sunday, 6 of dezembro of 2009 17:58 > For: sylvia@prontocl > Cc: ' alberto sotÃ³; ' Jose Ovid SalgueirÃ³; > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: individual direct selection or - LACRALO - point noun does not stop > the teleconferencing > > Hello, > > in forecast in which, by trip, it cannot participate in the session of > teleconferencing of this Monday, permÃtanme to paortar an opinion that I request to them > to transmit. If they agree in addition I invite to them to support it. > > Reviewing the document in > https://st.icann.org/working-groups/index.cgi?At-Large%20Draft%20Procedure%2 > 0for%20Appointment%20of%20a%20Director > that talks about the procedures to choose a member of the Council > Director of ICANN from the AT-Large, I notice in line 53 of the table, >! Option 5, that sets out the option of which all individual th! at expre sses his > interest to do it can emit a vote. > > This has been tried before and unequivocally demonstrated tolead to > dehorns. > > a selection cannot be better than its registry of voters. Itdoes not exist > registry of users of Internet, nor of individuals interestedin > AT-Large, nor no other that a registry of the population constitutes > preexisting to the selections. > > Consequently, the selection that we would have ahead would consist not of > to divide the electorate between the different options by which it can > to vote, but in attracting voters, with any argument, to additself to > register and to vote. This is analogous to loq ue has in thehistory of many > paÃeses Latin American: caciques/candidatos raising hills by > farmers to take them to the squares with the instruction andcertainty that > will vote by "the correct" candidate. > > This procedure already presntÃ³ in the AT-Large, the selections of the year > 2000. It was called on to me to very follow ! them close by like part of the Committee of Nominations > (today equivalent to the one of Selection of Candidates) andlike member of the Board of > ICANN. The faults derived from the criterion described in the previous paragraph > votes by nationality, captures corporative, votes were multiple - of > clubs - and although they did not take to the cancellation of the selection and produced to > less three valuable directors competentesy, showed all > vulnerabilities of this process. > > Therefore the direct selection in this case, that to many itcan pareccer to us in > principle and by our traditions most democratic, becomes > perversely the most undemocratic option. > > then Reitero my request: > > 1. to who is in favor present of the region I request to transmit the previous criterion; > > 2. to those who are convinced of these arguments I request to them to express his > support so that this one also is transmitted in the teleconferencing. > > Warm greeting. > > Alex! ander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .! . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org. . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > On Sun, 6 DEC 2009, sylvia@prontocl wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 6 DEC 2009 11:42:02 -0200 > > From: "sylvia@prontocl" <sylvia(a)prontocl.com.br> > > To: ' alberto sotÃ³ <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org>, > > "[ iso-8859-1 ] ' Jose Ovid SalgueirÃ³" <salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com> > > Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] HEAD OF CATTLE: INVITATION stops > TELECONFERENCING > >! respect to the process of selection AT-Large Director -07of December a > > > 0800 UTC > > > > Wanted Alberto and Jose, > > According to I understand this Teleconferencing is for all the thin ones. He is not um > > internal subject of the LACRALO, but that is for all the thin ones. Between > > all we must decide which is the best method to choose to > > future director who will represent the ALAC and who will be part of the Board. > > This director will act and represent all the thin ones and will leave > > anyone of them or until is not necessary that it is part of uma of > > the thin ones if she is that between all we decided that the best person stops > > to represent to us is not part of a thin one then. They are many > > possibilities... And this teleconferencing is for giving more form him to > > that comes discussing since we knew on this new approved position > by the Board, the 27 of August 2009. > > Tenemos to de! cide on metodolgia, quÃenes votarian, etc, etc. > > FÃjen! se that members of other thin ones already were made similarquestions > > and placed their positions command post wiki, > > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm (although is command post > ingles). > > > > Aqui estan the opinions on the selection process and voting that > > made the NARALO and it placed it to consideration of all, > > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm > > > > is outro Here wiki ocn more doubts, and the staff committed itself to look for > > the answers or to direct the doubt to that corresponds. Remember that > > in spite of being command post ingles, you can write Spanish command post; > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?questions_about_legal_or_othe > > r_issu > > is > > > > and is the requirements necessary here to postulate itself like candidate, > > according to the ICANN laws, > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?draft_candidate_requirements > > > > ! Any thing, does not doubt command post to ask to me! I will participate in > > teleconferencing tomorrow morning... > > Greetings, > > Sylvia > > _________________________________________________________ > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > > alberto Sent grove command post: Saturday, 5 of dezembro of 2009 18:57 > > For: ' Jose Ovid SalgueirÃ³; sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-es]INVITACION for TELECONFERENCING respect > > of the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 > > UTC > > > > Considered, I have t! he same restlessness that Jose Ovid Salgueiro, > > I belie! ve that they ameritan an aclamation, including a rectification. > > warm Greetings > > > > Dr Alberto Grove > > Director IIISI > > > > original -----Mensaje > > Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > > Jose Ovid Sent Salgueiro: Saturday, 05 of December of 2009 05:38 > p.m. > > For: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-es]INVITACION for TELECONFERENCING respect > > of the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 > > UTC > > > > Entiendo qie is a world-wide conference but qusiera they clarified two to me > > things if it is possible: > > > > 1. So that a subject which I understand internal of Lacralo has > > to discuss itself at this level 2. Even being a subject of the interest of ours > > Thin is in ingles and to one hour so inconvenie! nt for theregion > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > JOS > > > > the 05/12/09, sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> > > wrote: > > > Loved Jose: > > > I do not know if I have the correct answer for that question, but have > > understood > > > that the teleconferencing will be world-wide, for all the regions... without > > > no type of interpretation... It is why they are possible to be done > > > questions command post wiki command post any language and the staff will be in charge of > > to translate them... > > > Greetings, > > > Sylvia > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > > > Of: Jose Ovid Salgueiro [ mailto:salgueiro.jo@gmail.com] Shipment command post: > > > sixth-feira, 4 of dezembro of 2009 19:23 > > > For: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org; > > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Assunto: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] INVITATION for TELECONFE! RENCING > > > respect to the process of selection AT-La! rge Dire ctor -07 of December a > > > the 0800 UTC > > > > > > I have a question. So that the teleconferencing must bein > > > English > > if > > > Latin America is majority as much in ALSs as in I number of users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jose Ovid Salgueiro A. > > > salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > original -----Mensaje > > > Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > > > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Sent: Friday, 04 of December of > > > 2009 > > > 01:02 p.m. > > > For: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] INVITATION for TELECONFERENCING respect to > > > process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 UTC > > > > > > Considered members of LACRALO, > > > ! Monday that comes (7 of December to the 8UTC), will take place uma > > > teleconferencing to discuss the rough draft on like deberia being > > process > > > of selection of the new position that has been created:the one of um director > > > chosen > > by > > > the ALAC that will be part of the Board and therefore will have right to vote. > > > As they will be able to imagine east Director will be uma very important person > > > stops > > > > > ALAC and for the end users of Internet, of there the importance > > > to choose the person certain to hold this position. > > > Before the meeting of Seul and in the same one already treated east subject and > > reason > > > of this teleconferencing of Monday is for combining opinions since command post > > > May > > of > > > 2010 will be due to choose that new director. > > > the teleconferencing will be command post ingles, but they are! all guests a > > > to send questions and ideas to the ! list or its representatives so that > > > of this > > way > > > also can participate. If they want they can participatedirectly > > > using this Link, > > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_ca > > > l (CAN WRITE SPANISH command post THAT the STAFF WILL BE IN CHARGE OF > > > TO TRANSLATE IT) > > > > > > For but data enters aqui (command post inlges) > > > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm > > > Details of the teleconferencing: > > > > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_cal > > l_at_l > > > arge_director_appointment_process > > > > > > Greetings to all and does not doubt command post to write to me if they have some question! > > > Sylvia > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > > > Lati! n America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > > > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > > > > Of: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > [ mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > > > Sent > ICANN AT-Large Staff command post: quarta-feira,2 of dezembro of 2009 > > > > 08:40 > > > > For: alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > Cc: Jean-Jacques Subrenat; Mike Silber; jonne.soininen(a)nsn.com; > > > > George Sadowsky; Tricia Drakes; Raimundo Beca > > > > Assunto: [ ALAC-Announce ] INVITATION: Community Callon AT-Large > > > > Director Appointment Process 07 December 0800 UTC > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > You plows invited to to teleconference on the AT-Large Director > > > > Appointment ! Process on Monday, 7 December 2009 AT 0800 UTC. Please > >! > &g t; find the agenda, participation instructions and background > > > > information on the AT-Large Director appointment process to under: > > > > > > > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_c > > > > a > > > > l > > > > l_at_l > > > > arge_director_appointment_process > > > > > > > > ALAC Chair Cheryl Langdon-Orr highlighted the importance of broad > > > > input from all five AT-Large regions to the AT-Large Director > > > > Appointment Process and would like to request regionsto submit > > > > to their input to either > > > > > > > > > > > > * via the regional representatives confirmed ace attending the meeting > > > > * via the Comments section on the meeting page > > > > * via an email to the AT-Large list (cc'ing Cheryl Langdon-Orr and > > > Staff > > > > to make sure to t! heir comments plows recorded > > > > > > > > The members of the Board Structural Improvements Committee and > > > > Tricia Drakes plows also invited to join this discussion. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella > > > > Gruber-White ICANN AT-Large Staff > > > > > > > > email: staff AT atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > ALAC-Announce mailing list > > > > ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce_atlarge-lists. > > > > icann.org > > > > > > > > AT-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.or! g > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______! ________ ________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge > > - lists > > > icann.org > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Jose Ovid Salgueiro A. > > salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge > > - lists > > icann.org > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge > > - lists > > icann.org > &gt! ; > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge > > - lists.icann.org > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-list… > > http://www.lacralo.org _________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/91a73592a2.html --]]

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by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org Dec. 7, 2009

Dec. 7, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=Á_elecci=F3n_directa_individ = =?iso-8859-1?q?ual_o_no_-_LACRALO_-_punto_sustantivo_para_la_telec = =?iso-8859-1?q?onferencia = From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Dear Alexander, I agree with you and inclusively already habiamos spoken on this command post Seul. All we know the dificil that is to obtain the participation of all when we organized the ALAC Summit de Mexico. Reason why I consider that the best thing would be not to consider the2 last ones options to conciderar them unproductive and of dificil accomplishment. And me gustaria to add desnecesarias, since each Thin one already has chosen his representatives and their authorities for this type of desiciones among others things. Greetings, Sylvia _________________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein Leite LACRALO-ALAC Liaison Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org -----Mensagem original Of: Alexander Pisanty [ mailto:apisan@servidor.unam.mx ] Shipment command post: Sunday, 6 of dezembro of 2009 17:58 It stops: sylvia@prontocl Cc: ' alberto sotó; ' Jose Ovid Salgueiró; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: individual direct selection or - LACRALO - point noundoes not stop the teleconferencing Hello, in forecast in which, by trip, it cannot participate in the session of teleconferencing of this Monday, permítanme to paortar an opinion that I request to them to transmit. If they agree in addition I invite to them to support it. Reviewing the document in https://st.icann.org/working-groups/index.cgi?At-Large%20Draft%20Procedure%2 0for%20Appointment%20of%20a%20Director that one talks about the procedures to choose a member of the Council Director of ICANN from the AT-Large, I notice in line 53 of the table, Option 5, that sets out the option of which all individual that expresses his interest to do it can emit a vote. This has been tried before and unequivocally demonstrated to lead to dehorn. A selection cannot be better than its registry of voters. It does not exist registry of users of Internet, nor of individuals interested in AT-Large, nor no other that a registry of the population constitutes preexisting to the selections. Consequently, the selection that we would have ahead would consist notof to divide the electorate between the different options by which it can to vote, but in attracting voters, with any argument, to add itself to register and to vote. This is analogous to loq ue has in the history of many Latin American paÃeses: caciques/candidatos raising hills by farmers to take them to the squares with the instruction and certainty that they will vote by "the correct" candidate. This procedure already presntÃ³ in the AT-Large, the selections of theyear 2000. It was called on to me to very follow them close by likepart of the Committee of Nominations (today equivalent to the one of Selection of Candidates) and like member of the Board of ICANN. The faults derived from the criterion described in the previous paragraph votes by nationality, captures corporative, votes were multiple - of clubs - and although they did not take to the cancellation of the selection and produced to less three valuable directors competentesy, showed all vulnerabilities of this process. Thus the direct selection in this case, that to many it can pareccer to us in principle and by our traditions most democratic, becomes perversely the most undemocratic option. I reiterate then my request: 1. to who is in favor present of the region I request to transmit the previous criterion; 2. to those who are convinced of these arguments I request to them to express his support so that this one also is transmitted in the teleconferencing. Warm greeting. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Sun, 6 DEC 2009, sylvia@prontocl wrote: > Date: Sun, 6 DEC 2009 11:42:02 -0200 > From: "sylvia@prontocl" <sylvia(a)prontocl.com.br> > To: ' alberto sotÃ³ <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org>, > "[ iso-8859-1 ] ' Jose Ovid SalgueirÃ³" <salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com> > Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] HEAD OF CATTLE: INVITATION stops TELECONFERENCING > respect to the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 ofDecember a > 0800 UTC > > Wanted Alberto and Jose, > According to I understand this Teleconferencing is for all the thin ones. He is not um > internal subject of the LACRALO, but that is for all the thin ones. Between > all we must decide which is the best method to choose to > future director who will represent the ALAC and who will be part of the Board. > This director will act and represent all the thin ones and will leave > anyone of them or until is not necessary that it is part of uma of > the thin ones if she is that between all we decided that thebest person stops > to represent to us is not part of a thin one then. They aremany > possibilities... And this teleconferencing is for giving more form him to > that comes discussing since we knew on this new approved position by the Board, the 27 of August 2009. > Tenemos to decide on metodolgia, quÃenes votarian, etc, etc. > FÃjense that members of other thin ones already were made similar questions > and wiki placed their positions command post, > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm (althoughis command post ingles). > > Aqui estan the opinions on the selection process and votingthat > made the NARALO and it placed it to consideration of all, > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm > > is outro Here wiki ocn more doubts, and the staff committeditself to look for > the answers or to direct the doubt to that corresponds. Remember that > in spite of being command post ingles, you can write Spanish command post; > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?questions_about_legal_or_othe > r_issu > is > > and is the requirements necessary here to postulate itself like candidate, > according to the ICANN laws, > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?draft_candidate_requirements > > Any thing, does not doubt command post to ask to me! I willparticipate in > teleconferencing tomorrow morning... > Greetings, > Sylvia > _________________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large O! rganization > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > alberto Sent grove command post: Saturday, 5 of dezembro of2009 18:57 > For: ' Jose Ovid SalgueirÃ³; sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-es]INVITACION for TELECONFERENCING respect > of the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 > UTC > > Considered, I have the same restlessness that Jose Ovid Salgueiro, > I believe that they ameritan an aclamation, including a rectification. > warm Greetings > > Dr Alberto Grove > Director IIISI > > original -----Mensaje > Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > Jose Ovid Sent Salgueiro: Saturday, 05 of December of 2009 05:38 p.m. > For: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-es]INVITACION for TELECONFERENCING respect > of the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 > UTC > > Entiendo qie is a world-wide conference but qusiera they clarified two to me > things if it is possible: > > 1. So that a subject which I understand internal of Lacralohas > to discuss itself at this level 2. Even being a subject of the interest of ours > Thin is in ingles and to one hour so inconvenient for the region > > Thanks, > > > JOS > > the 05/12/09, sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> > wrote: > > Loved Jose: > > I do not know if I have the correct answer for that question, but have > understood > > that the teleconferencing will be world-wide, for all theregions... without > > no type of interpretation... It is why they are possible to be done > > questions command post wiki command post! any language andthe staff will be in charge of > to translate them... > > Greetings, > > Sylvia > > > > -----Mensagem original > > Of: Jose Ovid Salgueiro [ mailto:salgueiro.jo@gmail.com ]Shipment command post: > > sixth-feira, 4 of dezembro of 2009 19:23 > > For: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org; > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Assunto: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] INVITATION for TELECONFERENCING > > respect to the process of selection AT-Large Director -07of December a > > the 0800 UTC > > > > I have a question. So that the teleconferencing must be in > > English > if > > Latin America is majority as much in ALSs as in I number of users. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jose Ovid Salgueiro A. > > salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > original -----Mensaje > > Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > ! > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Sent: Friday, 04 of December ! of > &gt ; 2009 > > 01:02 p.m. > > For: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] INVITATION for TELECONFERENCING respect to > > process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to0800 UTC > > > > Considered members of LACRALO, > > Monday that comes (7 of December to the 8UTC), will take place uma > > teleconferencing to discuss the rough draft on like deberia being > process > > of selection of the new position that has been created: the one of um director > > chosen > by > > the ALAC that will be part of the Board and therefore will have right to vote. > > As they will be able to imagine east Director will be uma very important person > > stops > > > ALAC and for the end users of Internet, of there the importance > > to choose the person certain to hold this position. > > Before the meeting of Seul and in the same one already treated east subject and > reason > > of this teleconferencing of M! onday is for combining opinions since command post > > May > of > > 2010 will be due to choose that new director. > > the teleconferencing will be command post ingles, but they are allguests a > > to send questions and ideas to the list or its representatives so that > > of this > way > > also can participate. If they want they can participate directly > > using this Link, > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_ca > > l (CAN WRITE SPANISH command post THAT the STAFF WILL BE IN CHARGE OF > > TO TRANSLATE IT) > > > > For but data enters aqui (command post inlges) > > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm > > Details of the teleconferencing: > > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_cal > l_at_l > > arge_director_appointment_process > > > > Greetings to all and does not doubt command post to writeto me if they have some question! > > Sylvia! > > > > _______________________________________________! ________ __ > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > > > Of: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > [ mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > > Sent > ICANN AT-Large Staff command post: quarta-feira, 2of dezembro of 2009 > > > 08:40 > > > For: alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Cc: Jean-Jacques Subrenat; Mike Silber; jonne.soininen(a)nsn.com; > > > George Sadowsky; Tricia Drakes; Raimundo Beca > > > Assunto: [ ALAC-Announce ] INVITATION: Community Call on AT-Large > > > Director Appointment Process 07 December 0800 UTC > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > You plows invited to to teleconference on the AT-Large Director > > > Appointment Process on Monday, 7 December ! 2009 AT 0800 UTC. Please > > > find the agenda, participation instructions and background > > > information on the AT-Large Director appointment process to under: > > > > > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_c > > > a > > > l > > > l_at_l > > > arge_director_appointment_process > > > > > > ALAC Chair Cheryl Langdon-Orr highlighted the importance of broad > > > input from all five AT-Large regions to the AT-Large Director > > > Appointment Process and would like to request regions to submit > > > to their input to either > > > > > > > > > * via the regional representatives confirmed ace attending the meeting > > > * via the Comments section on the meeting page > > > * via an email to the AT-Large list (cc'ing Cheryl Langdon-Orr and > > Staff > > > to make sure to their comments plows recorded > > > > > > The m! embers of the Board Structural Improvements Committee and > &! gt; > Tricia Drakes plows also invited to join this discussion. > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > > > > Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella > > > Gruber-White ICANN AT-Large Staff > > > > > > email: staff AT atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ALAC-Announce mailing list > > > ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce_atlarge-lists. > > > icann.org > > > > > > AT-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge > - lists > > icann.org > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Jose Ovid Salgueiro A. > salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge > - lists > icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discus! s-es_atlarge > - lists > icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge > - lists.icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/fd55f6b307.html --]]

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Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=�_INVITACION_para_TELECONFER = =?iso-8859-1?q?ENCIA_respecto_del_proceso_de_elecci=F3n_At-Large_D = =?iso-8859-1?q?irector_-07_de_diciembre_a_las_0800_UTC =
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org Dec. 7, 2009

Dec. 7, 2009

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=Á_INVITACION_para_TELECONFER = =?iso-8859-1?q?ENCIA_respecto_del_proceso_de_elecci=F3n_At-Large_D = =?iso-8859-1?q?irector_-07_de_diciembre_a_las_0800_UTC = From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Thanks for the Silvia explanations! These aspects are clear. specific of the conference, they will be interesting to fix that policy. Warm greetings Dr. Aberto Grove Director IIISI Original -----Mensaje Of: Aislan Vargas [ mailto:aislan@uol.com.br ] Sent: Domingo, 06 of December of 2009 11:19 a.m. He stops: sylvia@prontocl; lac-discuss-he is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; ' alberto sotó; ' Jose Ovid Salgueiró CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Head of cattle: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: INVITATION for TELECONFERENCING respect of the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 UTC Interessante its Sylvia elucidations. I am thankful because also a they certain tapeworm doubt. I will try to also participate. In proxima week podriamos to discuss on the commentaries of the Monday conference. Att., Aislan Vargas Basilio Ageia Densi Brazil -----Original Message From: "sylvia@prontocl" <sylvia(a)prontocl.com.br> Date: Sun, 6 DEC 2009 11:42:02 To: ' alberto sotó<asoto(a)ibero-americano.org>; ' JosÃ© Ovid Salgueiró<salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com> Cc: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: INVITATION for TELECONFER ENCIA respect to the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 UTC Wanted Alberto and Jose, According to I understand this Teleconferencing is for all thethin ones. Subject is not um internal of the LACRALO, but that is for all the thin ones. Between all we have that to decide which is the best method to choose to the future director whom it will represent the ALAC and that will be part of the Board.This director will act and he will represent all the thin ones and he will leave anyone of them or until he is not necessary that it is part of uma of the thin ones if is that between all we decided that the best person to represent to us is not part of a thin one in that moment. The possibilities are many... And this teleconferencing is stops to give more form him to which one comes discussing since we knew on this new position approved by the Board, the 27 of August 2009. We must decide on metodolgia, quÃenes votarian, etc, etc. FÃjense that members of other thin ones already were made similar questions and they placed its positions command post wiki, http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm (although they are command post ingles). Aqui estan the opinions on the selection process and voting that did NARALO and placed it to consideration of all, http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm Here wiki is outro ocn more doubts, and the staff committed itself to look for answers or to direct the doubt to that corresponds. Remember that to weighing to be command post ingles, you can write Spanish command post; https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?questions_about_legal_or_other_issu he is And here they are the requirements necessary to postulate itself like candidate, according to the ICANN laws, https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?draft_candidate_requirements Any thing, does not doubt command post to ask to me! I will participate in teleconferencing tomorrow morning... Greetings, Sylvia _________________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein Leite LACRALO-ALAC Liaison Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org -----Mensagem original Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of alberto grove Shipment command post: Saturday, 5 of dezembro of 2009 18:57 It stops: ' Jose Ovid SalgueirÃ³; sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-es]INVITACION for TELECONFERENCING respect to process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800UTC Considered, I have the same restlessness that Jose Ovid Salgueiro, I believe that they ameritan an aclamation, including a rectification. Warm greetings Dr Alberto Grove Director IIISI Original -----Mensaje Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of Jose Ovid Sent Salgueiro: Saturday, 05 of December of 2009 05:38 p.m. It stops: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-es]INVITACION for TELECONFERENCING respect to process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800UTC I understand qie is a world-wide conference but qusiera they clarified two things to me if it is possible: 1. So that a subject which I understand internal of Lacralo must discuss a this level 2. Being a subject of the interest of our Thin one it even is in ingles and to one hour so inconvenient for the region Thanks, JOS The 05/12/09, sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> it wrote: > Loved Jose: > I do not know if I have the correct answer for that question, but have understood > that the teleconferencing will be world-wide, for all the regions... without > no type of interpretation... It is why they are possible tobe done > questions command post wiki command post any language and the staff will be in charge of to translate them... > Greetings, > Sylvia > > -----Mensagem original > Of: Jose Ovid Salgueiro [ mailto:salgueiro.jo@gmail.com ] Shipment command post: > sixth-feira, 4 of dezembro of 2009 19:23 > For: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org; > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] INVITATION for TELECONFERENCING respect > of the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 > UTC > > I have a question. So that the teleconferencing must be in > English if > Latin America is majority as much in ALSs as in I number ofusers. > > > > > > Jose Ovid Salgueiro A. > salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com > > > > original -----Mensaje > Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Sent: Friday, 04 of December of > 2009 > 01:02 p.m. > For: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] INVITATION for TELECONFERENCINGrespect to > process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 UTC > > Considered members of LACRALO, > Monday that comes (7 of December to the 8UTC), will take place uma > teleconferencing to discuss the rough draft on like deberiabeing process > of selection of the new position that has been created: theone of um director > chosen by > the ALAC that will be part of the Board and therefore will have right to vote. > As they will be able to imagine east Director will be uma very important person > stops > ALAC and for the end users of Internet, of there the importance > to choose the person certain to hold this position. > Before the meeting of Seul and in the same one already treated east subject and reason > of this teleconferencing of Monday is for combining opinions since command post > May of > 2010 will be due to choose that new director. > the teleconferencing will be command post ingles, but they are all guests to send > questions and ideas to the list or its representatives so that of this way > also can participate. If they want they can participate directly > using this Link, > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_cal > (THEY CAN WRITE SPANISH COMMAND POST THAT THE STAFF WILL BEIN CHARGE TO TRANSLATE IT) > > For but data enters aqui (command post inlges) > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm > Details of the teleconferencing: > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_call_at_l > arge_director_appointment_process > > Greetings to all and do not doubt command post to write to me if they have some question! > Sylvia > >_________________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > > Of: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [ mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > Sent > ICANN AT-Large Staff command post: quarta-feira, 2 of dezembro of 2009 > > 08:40 > > For: alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Cc: Jean-Jacques Subrenat; Mike Silber; jonne.soininen(a)nsn.com; > > George Sadowsky; Tricia Drakes; Raimundo Beca > > Assunto: [ ALAC-Announce ] INVITATION: Community Call on AT-Large > > Director Appointment Process 07 December 0! 800 UTC > > > > Dear All, > > > > You plows invited to to teleconference on the AT-Large Director > > Appointment Process on Monday, 7 December 2009 AT 0800 UTC. Please > > find the agenda, participation instructions and background > > information on the AT-Large Director appointment process to under: > > > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_ca > > l > > l_at_l > > arge_director_appointment_process > > > > ALAC Chair Cheryl Langdon-Orr highlighted the importance of broad > > input from all five AT-Large regions to the AT-Large Director > > Appointment Process and would like to request regions to submit to their > > input to either > > > > > > * via the regional representatives confirmed ace attending the meeting > > * via the Comments section on the meeting page > > * via an email to the AT-Large list (cc'ing Cheryl Langdon-Orr and > Staff > > to make sure to their c! omments plows recorded > > > > The members of the Board ! Structur al Improvements Committee and Tricia > > Drakes plows also invited to join this discussion. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella > > Gruber-White ICANN AT-Large Staff > > > > email: staff AT atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>_______________________________________________ > > ALAC-Announce mailing list > > ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce_atlarge-lists. > > icann.org > > > > AT-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > > > > >_______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists > icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > > -- Jose Ovid Salgueiro A. salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ff7d5377ec.html --]]

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Att., Aislan Vargas Basilio Ageia Densi Brazil -----Original Message From: "sylvia@prontocl" <sylvia(a)prontocl.com.br> Date: Sun, 6 DEC 2009 11:42:02 To: ' alberto sotó<asoto(a)ibero-americano.org>; ' JosÃ© Ovid Salgueiró<salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com> Cc: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: INVITATION for TELECONFER ENCIA respect to the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 UTC Wanted Alberto and Jose, According to I understand this Teleconferencing is for all thethin ones. Subject is not um internal of the LACRALO, but that is for all the thin ones. Between all we have that to decide which is the best method to choose to the future director whom it will represent the ALAC and that will be part of the Board.This director will act and he will represent all the thin ones and he will leave anyone of them or until he is not necessary that it is part of uma of the thin ones if is that between all we decided that the best person to represent to us is not part of a thin one in that moment. The possibilities are many... And this teleconferencing is stops to give more form him to which one comes discussing since we knew on this new position approved by the Board, the 27 of August 2009. We must decide on metodolgia, quÃenes votarian, etc, etc. FÃjense that members of other thin ones already were made similar questions and they placed its positions command post wiki, http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm (although they are command post ingles). Aqui estan the opinions on the selection process and voting that did NARALO and placed it to consideration of all, http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm Here wiki is outro ocn more doubts, and the staff committed itself to look for answers or to direct the doubt to that corresponds. Remember that to weighing to be command post ingles, you can write Spanish command post; https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?questions_about_legal_or_other_issu he is And here they are the requirements necessary to postulate itself like candidate, according to the ICANN laws, https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?draft_candidate_requirements Any thing, does not doubt command post to ask to me! I will participate in teleconferencing tomorrow morning... Greetings, Sylvia _________________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein Leite LACRALO-ALAC Liaison Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org -----Mensagem original Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of alberto grove Shipment command post: Saturday, 5 of dezembro of 2009 18:57 It stops: ' Jose Ovid SalgueirÃ³; sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-es]INVITACION for TELECONFERENCING respect to process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800UTC Considered, I have the same restlessness that Jose Ovid Salgueiro, I believe that they ameritan an aclamation, including a rectification. Warm greetings Dr Alberto Grove Director IIISI Original -----Mensaje Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of Jose Ovid Sent Salgueiro: Saturday, 05 of December of 2009 05:38 p.m. It stops: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-es]INVITACION for TELECONFERENCING respect to process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800UTC I understand qie is a world-wide conference but qusiera they clarified two things to me if it is possible: 1. So that a subject which I understand internal of Lacralo must discuss a this level 2. Being a subject of the interest of our Thin one it even is in ingles and to one hour so inconvenient for the region Thanks, JOS The 05/12/09, sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> it wrote: > Loved Jose: > I do not know if I have the correct answer for that question, but have understood > that the teleconferencing will be world-wide, for all the regions... without > no type of interpretation... It is why they are possible to be done > questions command post wiki command post any language and the staff will be in charge of to translate them... > Greetings, > Sylvia > > -----Mensagem original > Of: Jose Ovid Salgueiro [ mailto:salgueiro.jo@gmail.com ] Shipment command post: > sixth-feira, 4 of dezembro of 2009 19:23 > For: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org; > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] INVITATION for TELECONFERENCING respect > of the process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 > UTC > > I have a question. So that the teleconferencing must be in > English if > Latin America is majority as much in ALSs as in I number ofusers. > > > > > > Jose Ovid Salgueiro A. > salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com > > > > original -----Mensaje > Of: lac-discuss-he is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Sent: Friday, 04 of December of > 2009 > 01:02 p.m. > For: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] INVITATION for TELECONFERENCINGrespect to > process of selection AT-Large Director -07 of December to 0800 UTC > > Considered members of LACRALO, > Monday that comes (7 of December to the 8UTC), will take place uma > teleconferencing to discuss the rough draft on like deberiabeing process > of selection of the new position that has been created: theone of um director > chosen by > the ALAC that will be part of the Board and therefore will have right to vote. > As they will be able to imagine east Director will be uma very important person > stops > ALAC and for the end users of Internet, of there the importance > to choose the person certain to hold this position. > Before the meeting of Seul and in the same one already treated east subject and reason > of this teleconferencing of Monday is for combining opinions since command post > May of > 2010 will be due to choose that new director. > the teleconferencing will be command post ingles, but they are all guests to send > questions and ideas to the list or its representatives so that of this way > also can participate. If they want they can participate directly > using this Link, > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_cal > (THEY CAN WRITE SPANISH COMMAND POST THAT THE STAFF WILL BEIN CHARGE TO TRANSLATE IT) > > For but data enters aqui (command post inlges) > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/wg/engagement-en.htm > Details of the teleconferencing: > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_call_at_l > arge_director_appointment_process > > Greetings to all and do not doubt command post to write to me if they have some question! > Sylvia > >_________________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > > Of: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [ mailto:alac-announce-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > Sent > ICANN AT-Large Staff command post: quarta-feira, 2 of dezembro of 2009 > > 08:40 > > For: alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Cc: Jean-Jacques Subrenat; Mike Silber; jonne.soininen(a)nsn.com; > > George Sadowsky; Tricia Drakes; Raimundo Beca > > Assunto: [ ALAC-Announce ] INVITATION: Community Call on AT-Large > > Director Appointment Process 07 December 0! 800 UTC > > > > Dear All, > > > > You plows invited to to teleconference on the AT-Large Director > > Appointment Process on Monday, 7 December 2009 AT 0800 UTC. Please > > find the agenda, participation instructions and background > > information on the AT-Large Director appointment process to under: > > > > https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?7_december_2009_community_ca > > l > > l_at_l > > arge_director_appointment_process > > > > ALAC Chair Cheryl Langdon-Orr highlighted the importance of broad > > input from all five AT-Large regions to the AT-Large Director > > Appointment Process and would like to request regions to submit to their > > input to either > > > > > > * via the regional representatives confirmed ace attending the meeting > > * via the Comments section on the meeting page > > * via an email to the AT-Large list (cc'ing Cheryl Langdon-Orr and > Staff > > to make sure to their c! omments plows recorded > > > > The members of the Board ! Structur al Improvements Committee and Tricia > > Drakes plows also invited to join this discussion. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella > > Gruber-White ICANN AT-Large Staff > > > > email: staff AT atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>_______________________________________________ > > ALAC-Announce mailing list > > ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce_atlarge-lists. > > icann.org > > > > AT-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > > > > >_______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists > icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > > -- Jose Ovid Salgueiro A. salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/9fc83ff8ad.html --]]

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