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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] ???????? = Q iso-8859-1 Invitaciones_a_reuniones_ / _Pr = F3X == iso-8859-1 q = F3n = ima_llamada_del_Grupo_de_Nivelaci
by Sergio Salinas Porto April 7, 2014
by Sergio Salinas Porto April 7, 2014
April 7, 2014
Estimos miebros del staff, necesito queme llamen al +54 223 4715948
Muchas Gracias!
*Sergio Salinas Porto
Presidente Internauta Argentina
Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet
<http://www.internauta.org.ar>/CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar>
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Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819*
*"Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que
humillan nuestra conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" Eduardo
Galeano*
El 7 de abril de 2014, 12:17, <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> escribió:
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> Asunto:???????? = Q iso-8859-1 Invitaciones_a_reuniones_ / _Pr = F3X ==
> iso-8859-1 q = F3n = ima_llamada_del_Grupo_de_Nivelaci
> De: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org
>
> Si NECESITA Una Llamada de salidapor favorecen PNGasa en contacto conel
> de personal de At-Large en:
> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org
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> ************
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> Estimados Todos,
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> En relacin Con La Encuesta Doodle, la prxima Llamada del Grupo de
> Nivelacin estprevista párrafo el Lunes 7 Abril 2014 a las 2200 UTC
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> Horarios Otros Pará:
> http://tinyurl.com/pgrkxco
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> El Proyecto de Programa (Actualizar POR) estdisponible en:
> https://community.icann.org/x/-TDRAg
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> Adobe Connect:
> http://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacralo
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> Si NECESITA Una Llamada de salidapor favorecen PNGasa en contacto conel
> de personal de At-Large en:
> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org
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> Gracias.
> Saludos,
> *******************
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> Queridos todos,
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>
> En relación con la encuesta de Doodle, la siguiente llamada del Grupo de
> nivelación está programada
> el lunes 07 de abril 2014 a las 2200 UTC
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> Para otras veces:
> http://tinyurl.com/pgrkxco
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> El proyecto de orden del día (por actualizar) está disponible en:
> https://community.icann.org/x/-TDRAg
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> Adobe Connect Sala:
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> http://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacralo
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> Si necesita una llamada de salida, por favor póngase en contacto con el
> personal de At-Large en:
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> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org
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> Gracias.
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> Saludos,
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> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie
> Peregrine y Terri Agnew
> El personal de ICANN Política en apoyo de ALAC
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> E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org
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Si necesita una llamada de salidapor favor póngase en contacto conel
personal de At-Large en:
staff(a)atlarge.icann.org
************
Estimados todos,
En relación con la encuesta Doodle, la próxima llamada del Grupo de
Nivelación está prevista para el lunes 7 abril 2014 a las 2200 UTC
Para otros horarios:
http://tinyurl.com/pgrkxco
El proyecto de programa (por actualizar) está disponible en:
https://community.icann.org/x/-TDRAg
Adobe Connect:
http://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacralo
Si necesita una llamada de salidapor favor póngase en contacto conel
personal de At-Large en:
staff(a)atlarge.icann.org
Gracias.
Saludos,
*******************
Dear All,
Further to the Doodle poll, the next call of the Leveling Group is scheduled
on Monday 7 April 2014 at 2200 UTC
For other times:
http://tinyurl.com/pgrkxco
The draft agenda (TO BE UPDATED) is available at:
https://community.icann.org/x/-TDRAg
Adobe Connect Room:
http://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacralo
If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at:
staff(a)atlarge.icann.org
Thank you.
Regards,
Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie
Peregrine and Terri Agnew
ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org
One World, One Internet
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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ??? = Iso-8859-1 q = Comentarios_P _Estrateg == FAblicos_-iso-8859-1 q = ia_de_las_Reuniones_de_ICANN?
by asoto@ibero-americano.org April 7, 2014
by asoto@ibero-americano.org April 7, 2014
April 7, 2014
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Subject: Re:??? = Iso-8859-1 q = Comentarios_P _Estrateg == FAblicos_-iso-8859-1 q = ia_de_las_Reuniones_de_ICANN?
From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org
Thanks for the Jos collaboration.
Aqulos links with other languages \u200b\u200bof our Regin:
Portuguese Course:
https://www.icann.org/pt/groups/board/participation/mswg/recommendations-25f
EB14-pt.pdf
English:
http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/participation/mswg/recommendations-25fe
b14-en.pdf
It is important to the view of all, I expect active participation.
Best Regards
Alberto Soto
----- Original Message -----
From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org
[Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Jos
Francisco Arce
Posted on: Monday, April 7, 2014 10:36 a.m.
To: LACRALO Espaol
Subject: [lac-discuss-es] Comments Pblicos - Strategy Meetings
ICANN
Dear Members
As I estabierto SABRN pblicos comment period on group
estratgico work of ICANN meetings
https://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/meetings-strategy-25feb14-en.ht
m
In turn, the document to be considered this in several languages \u200b\u200bincluding
Espaol:
https://www.icann.org/es/groups/board/participation/mswg/recommendations-25f
EB14-en.pdf
A member of the region, Sylvia Leite, is currently a member of the group,
who has worked very hard in this draft, along with the others
members.
I personally drafted a declaration for you to leave
as in the region, if there is no consensus, I estarsubindolo to
pblicos comments personally. The last day is April 25.
My comp:
https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=47264806
Regards
-
Arce, JosF.
http://lnkd.in/bPdTThz
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by josefranciscoarce@gmail.com April 7, 2014
by josefranciscoarce@gmail.com April 7, 2014
April 7, 2014
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Subject:?? = Iso-8859-1 q = Comentarios_P _Estrateg == FAblicos_-iso-8859-1 q = ia_de_las_Reuniones_de_ICANN??
From: josefranciscoarce(a)gmail.com
Dear Members
As I estabierto SABRN pblicos comment period on group
estratgico work of ICANN meetings
https://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/meetings-strategy-25feb14-en.h…
In turn, the document to be considered this in several languages \u200b\u200bincluding
Espaol:
https://www.icann.org/es/groups/board/participation/mswg/recommendations-25…
A member of the region, Sylvia Leite, is currently a member of the group,
who has worked very hard in this draft, along with the others
members.
I personally drafted a declaration for you to leave
as in the region, if there is no consensus, I estarsubindolo to
pblicos comments personally. The last day is April 25.
My comp:
https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=47264806
Regards
-
Arce, JosF.
http://lnkd.in/bPdTThz
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Re: [lac-discuss-en] RV: ICANN News Alert - ICANN Seeks Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention
by fatimacambronero@gmail.com April 6, 2014
by fatimacambronero@gmail.com April 6, 2014
April 6, 2014
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Subject: Re: RV: ICANN News Alert - ICANN Seeks Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention
From: fatimacambronero(a)gmail.com
Dear,
I was perusing their emails and explanations and in my opinion
there are some situations that ESTN overlapping and somewhat confused.
First I would like to remember the explanation we brindtbNL> Oscar Robles Garay within our Capacity Creation cycle,
quin who is clearly distinguishable and quhacen:
-Registry/Registries: It translates into Spanish as a record; who is who
manage the database and performs the publication of the zone file
(. TLD). They are contracts with ICANN, as both
registries and registrars are contractual parties (aqupueden review
GNSO structure).
-Register: It translates as registrars. Agreements are those with
of accreditation of Registrars (RAA) with ICANN, and those conducting the
accreditation of domain names with the Registry (Registry). Also
commercialization contracts held with Registrant
(Registrant / registrant).
-Registrant: Registrant translates / Registrant. They are
Registrants of domain names; is the client or user
end.
This explanation I have done is very simple, in order to serve us
to the subject we are dealing with. They can expand and other sources besides
they can find the presentation of Oscar Robles at the following link:
https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/LACRALO+Capacity+Building+Activ…
1) * About ICANN questpidiendo comments now? *
ICANN right now estrecibiendo comments on the following
inquiries:
(I) if the data items are described properly / Whether the data
Appropriately elements are described,
(Ii) if propsitos cited for the collection and retention are appropriate
and legtimas / Whether ministering purposes cited for the collection and retention are
Appropriate and legitimate, and
(Iii) if there are other purposes for potentially legtimos recoleccin
and retention of those data elements / Whether there are other
Potentially legitimate ministering purposes for collection and retention of data Such
elements.
The deadline is April 21, and must be sent to the following
e-mail address: comments-retention-21mar14(a)icann.org and
Sern published in the space below:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-retention-21mar14/
* Qudocumento be read to answer these queries? *
The document to be reviewed is the description of
Specifications data retention elements and propsitos
We legtimos for potentially recoleccin / data retention, which may
found at the following link:
http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/draft-data-retention-spec-…
This link podrn find Data Specification for retention,
although allno propsitos ESTN including for said
recoleccin / retention:
http://www.icann.org/es/resources/registrars/raa/approved-with-specs-27jun1… # data-retention
Aquse describe the data the Registrar recopilary mantendren
safely in their own electronic database.
* QuharICANN these comments received? *
What ICANN intentarrealizar these reviews is "reaching a
mutually acceptable solution exencin requests "to this
recolecciny data retention.
Aques where we analyze whether these data elements to be
collect and retain Registrars (registrars) or violate the laws
of data protection and data retention laws of our
passes, to see if we are faced with a situation in which it is
may request a exencina this recolecciny data retention.
* How should we proceed? *
In my view, this is not a subject on which we must speak as
THIN, as some of our countries do not have laws on protection
and retention of data (although some points may be covered by
general privacy) laws, and those who Stienen while still
Model EU rules on data protection, have some
differences.
I believe this is a matter in which the ALS group together deberamos
are part of the same country, to make the necessary analysis
under the provisions of our respective laws, and send
comments like this.In this case, we take to serve you
service to users of our passes, you informndoles cules of
data recorders ESTN requesting them go against our
laws, so that those users are not required to provide these
data or that they are retained and are able to
perform the corresponding procedure to request the exencina
recolecciny retention of this data.
I understand that this is not the usual way of working in our THIN and
so it may have opposing views on this proposal. Qu
reviewers? It seems feasible to work this issue in this way? They have
any other suggestions?
Best Regards,
Fatima Cambronero
On April 3, 2014, 23:06, Aida Noblia <aidanoblia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Gracias Alberto, estaba dudando de enviar esto porque no tenía claro el
> plazo,. Me alegro pueda ser útil a la comunidad
>
> Saludos a todos
>
>
> El 3 de abril de 2014, 20:55, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org>escribió:
>
> Impecable Aída. El plazo que yo había dicho era para poder discutir en la
>> lista, pero hasta este momento solo hubo tres comentarios. El plazo de los
>> comentarios públicos estará abierto hasta las 23:59 UTC del 21 de Abril.
>>
>> Gracias y felicitaciones por tu dedicación!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Alberto Soto
>>
>>
>>
>> *De:* Aida Noblia [mailto:aidanoblia@gmail.com]
>> *Enviado el:* jueves, 03 de abril de 2014 08:36 p.m.
>>
>> *Para:* Alberto Soto
>> *CC:* Fatima Cambronero; LACRALO Español
>> *Asunto:* Re: [lac-discuss-es] RV: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert --
>> ICANN Seeks Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data
>> Elements and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention
>>
>>
>>
>> Hola a todos:
>>
>>
>>
>> Gracias Alberto por la amplia información. También para no aburrir y que
>> tengan una información directa, dejo el link del sitio gubernamental donde
>> encuentran la legislación nacional y alguna de la iberoamericana y
>> jurisprudencia nacional www.datospersonales.gub.uy.
>>
>> Si bien el plazo que fijaste está vencido no se si el plazo para
>> comentarios o al menos entiendo que como decías el tema es muy importante.
>>
>> Por eso y porque no puedo enviar a wiki esto porque no puedo entrar
>> debido a los problemas que hubo con la wiki, les envío esto que venía
>> redactando
>>
>> Un par de comentarios, que son previos al enfoque concreto solicitado
>> sobre la declaración:
>>
>> Por un lado estos derechos nuevos a datos personales y acceso a
>> información, todavía no están incorporados en los paradigmas de la gente,
>> es muy asimétrico el proceso, muchos ni la conocen, son derechos humanos de
>> nueva generación, de la Era Digital, se van insertando en la conciencia de
>> las personas.
>>
>> En distintos países la brecha real es tan grande, que muchas personas no
>> entienden que estos sean sus derechos, porque están reclamando por otras
>> urgencias: seguridad en las calles, cese a la violencia, al hambre, derecho
>> a la salud, etc.
>>
>> Entiendo que desde el punto de vista de ICANN es bueno conocer estas
>> disposiciones, tema que ya se ha estudia desde hace un tiempo en el EWG
>> según mencionó Carlton en B. Aires el año pasado.
>>
>> Por otro lado: las mismas disposiciones legales tienen excepciones,
>> bastante estrictas y limitadas, incluso respecto a la comunicación o
>> períodos de conservación de los datos, en que hay otros intereses de la
>> comunidad prioritarios, por ejemplo datos que figuran en fuentes públicas o
>> listados, o la Base de Datos del Banco Central sobre datos crediticios,
>> o con las caracteristicas determinadas por la ley. Por la excepción se
>> hacen públicos los datos de su responsabilidad crediticia de las personas
>> (incumplimientos, etc) por un período determinado, para protección de la
>> estabilidad del mercado financiero. También hay otras respecto a
>> determinados ámbitos , pero para focalizarnos en el tema omitimos, están en
>> las leyes.
>>
>> En el caso concreto planteado de la declaración, la exención se produce
>> para proteger intereses particulares de los registros, dadas sus
>> dificultades en cumplir las normas legales, según lo expuesto por los
>> interesados.
>>
>> Creo que desde el punto de vista de ICANN es bueno conocer las
>> legislaciones, tema que ya se ha estudiado el EWG según mencionó Carlton en
>> B. Aires el año pasado.
>>
>> Pero es necesario tener en cuenta también que el motivo concreto y el
>> objetivo propuesto es un problema particular, al que se refiere la
>> Declaración que trata del tema de establecer una adecuada política de
>> ICANN a nivel global, que pueda contemplar las necesidades de los servicios
>> que brinda, sin desconocer legislaciones, pero sin asumir responsabilidades
>> por cuestiones que legalmente no le corresponden y sin que las exenciones,
>> en el caso concreto, perjudiquen la confiabilidad, estabilidad y seguridad
>> del servicio que ICANN brinda a la comunidad. Las nuevas RAA establecen las
>> responsabilidades del solicitante y registrador, de las cuales, mediante el
>> procedimiento de exención al que refiere la Declaración en estudio, se
>> libera al registro al liberarlo de la conservación de los datos.
>>
>> Aquí hay un problema concreto a resolver que no solo queda en esta
>> Declaración al respecto sobre la que se hacen estos comentarios. ICANN no
>> puede liberar a las partes de una obligación legal porque no tiene
>> potestades para eso. Intenta resolver el problema para mantener su servicio
>> de manera confiable y segura, máxime con los nuevos riesgos que implican
>> los nuevos gTLD. Pero no es ni nunca fue el propietario de la base ni el
>> que recibe y controla los datos o los mantiene.
>>
>>
>>
>> Esa era una obligación hacia el solicitante, quien paga para que se le
>> gestione el dominio y tiene derecho a reclamar que se le preste en forma
>> legal. También el solicitante tiene a su vez obligación de proporcionar
>> datos y actualizarlos. Aquí el sistema "bottom-up" se aplica respecto a la
>> responsabilidad y como cooperación para el funcionamiento del sistema
>> global, porque quien es el titular de los datos es el que está protegido
>> por el sistema, normalmente el más interesado en proteger sus datos, y el
>> que más directamente puede aportarlos en el mínimo tiempo.
>>
>>
>>
>> En cuanto al tema de la responsabilidad, que es el que está en juego en
>> el caso de los Registros que estamos viendo, es muy claro quiénes son los
>> responsables y de qué. Está en las nuevas RAA (Acuerdos de Registración)
>>
>>
>>
>> En otros casos de exenciones incluso legales a la conservación de datos
>> personales, por ejemplo en Uruguay, en lo relativo a la central de riesgos
>> crediticios que mencioné antes, se establece expresamente que las personas
>> físicas y jurídicas del sistema de intermediación financiera que
>> suministren la información contenida en la Central de Riesgos Crediticios a
>> cargo del Banco Central del Uruguay serán las únicas responsables por la
>> veracidad y actualización de la misma.
>>
>>
>>
>> La base de datos la lleva el Banco Central, que es un tercero, pero queda
>> claro que no es el responsable del contenido de la base porque solo
>> mantiene un sistema informático en base a datos que se le proporcionan. Es
>> esta la responsabilidad que está en juego, que se rige por la lógica de la
>> justicia de responder por los actos propios o de los dependientes. El Banco
>> responde del buen funcionamiento del sistema informático que sostiene la
>> base de datos en línea.
>>
>>
>>
>> Entiendo que en el caso de ICANN, de hacerse alguna exención, debe quedar
>> expresamente establecido que ICANN no asume responsabilidad, por cualquier
>> reglamación que pudiera surgir al respecto. Esto lo considero de suma
>> importancia para ICANN en la defensa del interés público y del cumplimiento
>> de sus propios fines.
>>
>>
>>
>> El problema surge a raíz de la complejidad agregada por la incorporación
>> de los nuevos gTLD, que incrementa de manera exponencial la administración
>> y manejo de una cantidad mucho mayor de datos, lo que implica recepción,
>> control de calidad de los datos, conservación, procesos de modificación
>> cuando corresponda, o de cancelación en su caso. El modo en que se regula
>> ahora mejorará indidablemente la calidad de los datos y el servicio en
>> general.
>>
>>
>>
>> La posición de los registros ante esto es tratar de liberarse de la
>> complejidad y en el caso de la obligación de conservación de datos así no
>> tenemos estos problemas ni estas responsabilidades, pero por más delegación
>> que haya, ICANN no es y nunca fue el dueño de la base de datos, son como
>> antes, los registros los responsables tanto de la recolección como de la
>> conservación.
>>
>>
>>
>> El interés de ICANN, no es el mismo que el de los Registros, pues es más
>> general, administrar adecuadamente y en forma segura y confiable la
>> Internet y todos los los dominios. Debe ser contemplar los intereses y
>> necesidades de todas las partesy involucradas, en eso consiste su propia
>> función y finalidad. En este caso, ICANN necesita desempeñar bien la
>> función que tiene en bien de la comunidad de Internet, no en su beneficio
>> particular, trabaja para la seguridad misma de la red y que se genere la
>> menor cantidad posible de conflictos: datos exactos, adecuados, no
>> excesivos, en tiempo y forma... calidad y cantidad de datos, eliminar datos
>> erróneos, extemporáneos, conservar los necesarios por el tiempo necesario
>> para cumplir mejor su función.
>>
>>
>>
>> Los registros siguen siendo los responsables de la base como siempre, de
>> lo que pueden manejar en la recolección y mantenimiento de los datos, pero
>> con un servicio especializado que les apoya para que puedan cumplir mejor
>> su función en la nueva Era y con estos nuevos dominios. Lo que se terceriza
>> para mejorar es una parte de su trabajo, que forma parte de *su *negocio.
>> Esto no es una crítica, sino simplemente es la situación de hecho lo que
>> estamos expresando.
>>
>>
>>
>> Por eso entiendo que está bien la Declaración, estoy de acuerdo con ella
>> y con tratar de que quienes son responsables y tienen su ventaja económica
>> en la actividad que prestan, también cumplan con las normas como
>> corresponde, y que en caso de que ICANN los exonere en lo interno de la
>> relación, de surgir algún perjuicio, ICANN no se hace de ningún modo
>> responsable del mismo, subsistiendo la responsabilidad en quienes la tienen
>> legalmente. aunque les implique mayores pero costos.* Entiendo que esto
>> debería quedar expresamente establecido y firmado por ambas partes.*
>>
>>
>>
>> De lo contrario terceros perjudicados podrían entender que al exonerar
>> ICANN a los registradores de esa responsabilidad, se estarían subrogando en
>> las consecuencias jurídicas que podría aparejar para los registradores el
>> hecho de no cumplir con la conservación de los datos.
>>
>> Saludos a todos
>>
>>
>>
>> El 27 de marzo de 2014, 0:58, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org>
>> escribió:
>>
>> Aída y todos. Nuestras leyes (Uruguay y Argentina), están inspiradas en
>> la LSI española, así que pueden diferir algo en la forma, pero no en el
>> fondo. La Ley Argentina de Protección de Datos Personales no habla de
>> retención de datos en comunicaciones. Sí, hubo una ley sobre este último
>> tema, pero fue dejada en "suspensión" por las numerosas críticas recibidas.
>>
>> La Ley argentina es la Nro 25326, que también define datos personales
>> (información de cualquier tipo referida a personas físicas o de existencia
>> ideal determinadas o determinables; y Datos sensibles ( Datos personales
>> que revelan origen racial y étnico, opiniones políticas, convicciones
>> religiosas, filosóficas o morales, afiliación sindical e información
>> referente a la salud o a la vida sexual).
>>
>> También define "Tratamiento de datos: Operaciones y procedimientos
>> sistemáticos, electrónicos o no, que permitan la recolección, conservación,
>> ordenación, almacenamiento, modificación, relacionamiento, evaluación,
>> bloqueo, destrucción, y en general el procesamiento de datos personales,
>> así como también su cesión a terceros a través de comunicaciones,
>> consultas, interconexiones o transferencias."
>>
>> Respecto de la seguridad de la información, nuestra Ley dice: 1. El
>> responsable o usuario del archivo de datos debe adoptar las medidas
>> técnicas y organizativas que resulten necesarias para garantizar la
>> seguridad y confidencialidad de los datos personales, de modo de evitar su
>> adulteración, pérdida, consulta o tratamiento no autorizado, y que permitan
>> detectar desviaciones, intencionales o no, de información, ya sea que los
>> riesgos provengan de la acción humana o del medio técnico utilizado.
>>
>> 2. Queda prohibido registrar datos personales en archivos, registros o
>> bancos que no reúnan condiciones técnicas de integridad y seguridad.
>>
>> Respecto de la confidencialidad: 1. El responsable y las personas que
>> intervengan en cualquier fase del tratamiento de datos personales están
>> obligados al secreto profesional respecto de los mismos. Tal obligación
>> subsistirá aun después de finalizada su relación con el titular del archivo
>> de datos.
>>
>> 2. El obligado podrá ser relevado del deber de secreto por resolución
>> judicial y cuando medien razones fundadas relativas a la seguridad pública,
>> la defensa nacional o la salud pública.
>>
>> Respecto de la Cesión de Datos: 1. Los datos personales objeto de
>> tratamiento sólo pueden ser cedidos para el cumplimiento de los fines
>> directamente relacionados con el interés legítimo del cedente y del
>> cesionario y con el previo consentimiento del titular de los datos, al que
>> se le debe informar sobre la finalidad de la cesión e identificar al
>> cesionario o los elementos que permitan hacerlo.
>>
>> Luego de esta larga introducción, debo coincidir contigo prácticamente en
>> todo.
>>
>> Entiendo que tanto un Registrador como un Registrante, tienen (o deberían
>> tener!) una infraestructura tecnológica adecuada a las necesidades. Es
>> decir que tienen un adecuado sistema de seguridad de la información, con
>> separaciones entre sus servidores de áreas administrativas y de producción,
>> inclusive de desarrollo de sistemas si es que tienen esta área. Además de
>> su red interna de comunicaciones, separadas y sin posibilidad de acceso
>> entre las diferentes áreas, elemental en un prestador de servicios de
>> internet. Esto, además de ajustarse a las leyes locales de protección de
>> datos personales.
>>
>> Esto implicaría, por ejemplo, que los elementos de datos descriptos en
>> los puntos 1.1.8 (Procesamiento de pagos recurrentes); y el 1.2.1.
>> (Información relativa a pagos concurrentes), están resguardados en un lugar
>> diferente a los elementos de datos del Whois, con lo cual el acceso a los
>> mismos es solo posible, libre para este último, y por personal interno del
>> registrador o registrante a la información de los precitados ítems, que
>> contienen asociados nombres, tarjetas de crédito, domicilios, etc. Se
>> afirma que si se suprime la fuente de información de pago, un registrante
>> no tendrá manera de evaluar los reclamos de disputa de facturación o
>> devoluciones del cargo del proceso. Que en muchos casos en disputa con
>> tarjetas de crédito o cargos bancarios.
>>
>> Esto está relacionado con la legislación de cada país. En Argentina, las
>> tarjetas de crédito y los bancos tienen la obligación de guardar este tipo
>> de información durante muchos años; en este momento no recuerdo si son
>> siete o diez años. De ser así, existen al menos dos lugares con la
>> información necesaria.
>>
>>
>>
>> Con respecto a los temas de hackeo, venta irregular de dominio por engaño
>> del comprador,etc., se habla de un año o más de retención de datos. Este
>> plazo tiene que tener relación con la prescripción del delito cometido,
>> porque si prescribe a los dos años, no debo guardarlos por tres años.
>>
>> Entiendo que no se fijen plazos de retención, porque este tema ha sido y
>> sigue siendo muy discutido por que requiere almacenamiento, medidas de
>> seguridad adicionales, etc. Y más aún siendo datos de tráfico.
>>
>>
>>
>> Espero no haber aburrido
>>
>> Saludos cordiales
>>
>>
>>
>> Alberto Soto
>>
>>
>>
>> *De:* Aida Noblia [mailto:aidanoblia@gmail.com]
>> *Enviado el:* miércoles, 26 de marzo de 2014 04:55 p.m.
>> *Para:* Alberto Soto
>> *CC:* Fatima Cambronero; LACRALO Español
>>
>>
>> *Asunto:* Re: [lac-discuss-es] RV: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert --
>> ICANN Seeks Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data
>> Elements and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention
>>
>>
>>
>> Fátima, Alberto, Alejandro y todos:
>>
>>
>>
>> Entiendo que sí es un tema muy importante, complejo y también en las
>> legislaciones, no pude asistir a la mesa redonda que mencionó Fátima, se
>> puede escuchar alguna grabación? todavía queda algo de plazo para
>> comentarios ? no tengo claro cuál es la fecha de cierre de comentarios.
>>
>>
>>
>> Las legislaciones nacionales sobre protección de datos personales son
>> bastante estrictas, también las de derecho de acceso a la información
>> pública, porque ahí estaría el límite necesario para saber lo que se puede
>> y debe publicar y lo que no, con qué extensión, por cuánto tiempo, quiénes
>> pueden hacerlo, qué datos se pueden publicar líbremente y cuáles requieren
>> el consentimiento libre, expreso, escrito, del titular...
>>
>>
>>
>> En Uruguay la ley 18331 y sus decretos reglamentarios refieren a la
>> protección de datos personales (calificados en dos tipos (sensibles o no)
>> ,como un derecho humano amparado por la constitución de la República. Se
>> otorga al titular de los datos personales los derechos ARCO, sigla que a
>> nivel de las legislaciones incluye derecho de Acceso a la base de datos,
>> Rectificación de los datos erróneos o modificados en la realidad,
>> Corrección de datos erróneos o inexactos y Oposición a que se haga lo que
>> la ley llama "tratamiento" de los datos que es en general cualquier uso de
>> esos datos personales, sin el consentimiento escrito y expreso de su
>> titular.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hay una Unidad Reguladora de Registro y Control de esos datos a cargo de
>> la Agencia del Gobierno Electrónico, que lleva el Registro de las Bases
>> que contienen datos personales, obligatorio para todo el que tiene una
>> base, ya sea de personas públicas o privadas, controla, realiza
>> procedimientos y auditorías y sanciona a los infractores con multas e
>> incluso clausura de la base de datos.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hay un responsable de la base y un encargado de llevarla en la práctica
>> por cuenta de terceros o la suya propia. La ley regula sus
>> responsabilidades. El propietario de la base, persona física o jurídica es
>> el que responde por el uso o tratamiento de los datos personales al
>> titular de esos datos.
>>
>>
>>
>> Aún cuando se puedan usar o tratar en determinadas circunstancias, con
>> consentimiento del titular o en los casos de datos que se admita su
>> tratamiento sin él, los datos personales no pueden ser usados para otros
>> fines que para los que el titular su uso permitió.
>>
>>
>>
>> El responsable de la base es su propietario o quien decide su uso: Los
>> datos personales son recolectados para una finalidad y deben ser
>> eliminados una vez que se cumplió la finalidad para la que se recolectaron,
>> se pueden trasmitir solo en determinadas condiciones.. etc. Es ese
>> responsable de la base, que puede ser persona física o jurídica, a quien el
>> titular de los datos puede exigir el cumplimiento o las sanciones que
>> puedan corresponder.
>>
>>
>>
>> Con variantes, esto se repite en las legislaciones. En caso de
>> transferencia internacional de datos se aplica el derecho internacional, y
>> por tanto habrá que analizar cuál es la ley aplicable y la jurisdicción
>> competencia.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> En el caso de ICANN, el propietario de la base de datos *no* es ICANN,
>> por tanto, *no *es responsable legalmente del tratamiento que se realice
>> de los datos personales.
>>
>>
>>
>> Según pude ver, en el sistema del nuevo acuerdo, el servicio se
>> terceriza, para mejorarlo en cuanto a la calidad de los datos y también
>> respecto a su tratamiento, pero eso no implica el cambio de propietario.
>>
>>
>>
>> Entonces, ICANN consiente la "excención" de retención de datos, en
>> algunos casos puntuales que analiza y mediante un procedimiento especial,
>> pero perjudicando el servicio que se pretendía mejorar a los usuarios por
>> este nuevo medio.
>>
>>
>>
>> Esto se hace a pedido de los registros para quedar liberados de su
>> responsabilidad legal porque al no tener que conservar los datos según el
>> acuerdo con ICANN ya no tienen que responder ante la ley por su
>> conservación, deterioro, mal uso, etc. Se insiste en la exigencia de la
>> buena fe por parte del propietario o titular de la base de datos (registro)
>> que contiene dichos datos, aunque esta buena fe es un asunto de difícil
>> prueba cierta.
>>
>>
>>
>> Además, al no conservar estos datos, se impide que haya posibilidades
>> cumplir las funciones de ICANN en estos casos, respecto a la prevención de
>> daños que se puedan ocasionar por uso indebido de nombres de dominio y
>> similares.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> El tema es analizar en cada caso de estas solicitudes, si realmente la
>> retención de estos datos es necesaria para la prestación del servicio que
>> se brinda a través del Registro o si ella constituye una violación de la
>> ley. En el blog que se mencionan los casos que se pueden dar y no parecen
>> tan raros. Y la posición de los registradores es claramente buscar que se
>> les facilite su tarea. pero en este caso podría ser contra la efectividad y
>> certeza del servicio que brinda ICANN. De lo que ya se ha dado y se puede
>> ver en la web, parece que predomina la seguridad. Pero más allá de los
>> requisitos de presentación que tiene el caso (con informes de abogado , etc
>> ) debería estudiarse muy bien en que casos se da y no tanto presumir la
>> buena fe como forma de resolver estos casos.
>>
>>
>>
>> De otro modo por dar un respaldo a los propietarios de los Registros los
>> libera de responsabilidades legales, con riesgo de afectar el cumplimiento
>> de otras obligaciones, todo a afectar otras obligaciones que tiene el
>> Registro y su propietario como dueño o quien trata los datos.
>>
>>
>>
>> Como decían me parece un asunto de interés.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Saludos
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-22 20:59 GMT-03:00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org>:
>>
>>
>>
>> Fátima, solo serán las 04:00 AM en Buenos Aires... Pero prometo participar.
>>
>> Gracias!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Alberto Soto
>>
>>
>>
>> De: Fatima Cambronero [mailto:fatimacambronero@gmail.com]
>> Enviado el: sábado, 22 de marzo de 2014 08:54 p.m.
>> Para: Alberto Soto
>> CC: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch; LACRALO Español
>> Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RV: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- ICANN
>>
>> Seeks Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data
>> Elements
>> and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention
>>
>> Alejandro, Alberto,
>>
>>
>>
>> Comparto la opinión de que estamos frente a un tema interesante que
>> deberíamos poder analizar y pronunciarnos desde nuestra región.
>>
>>
>>
>> El día lunes 24 a las 15 hs. local de Singapur está prevista una Mesa
>> Redonda sobre Servicios de Directorio de Registro: presente y futuro. Si
>> bien este tema concretamente no está incluido en la agenda de la reunión,
>> es
>> un tema muy relacionado que quizás aparezca en los debates.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sería bueno participar en esta Mesa Redonda para escuchar y discutir los
>> comentarios que pueda haber al respecto. Entiendo que en el horario de
>> nuestros países queda en una franja un poco complicada. Yo voy a estar
>> atendiendo a dicha reunión. Si hay algún comentario o consulta que quieran
>> hacer llegar, me ofrezco para transmitirlos.
>>
>>
>>
>> Este es el enlace a la agenda de esta Mesa Redonda:
>>
>> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Roundtable+on+Registrat
>> ion+Directory+Services%3A+Now+and+the+Future+-+2014.03.24+-+Singapore<https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Roundtable+on+Registra…>
>>
>>
>>
>> Aquí el enlace al Adobe Connect:
>> https://icann.adobeconnect.com/sin49-vip/
>> (este es el mismo para todas las reuniones de At-Large de la semana).
>>
>>
>>
>> Saludos cordiales,
>>
>> Fatima Cambronero
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-21 23:40 GMT-03:00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org
>>
>> <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> >:
>>
>>
>> Creo que el interés debe ser suficiente. Es justamente uno de los temas
>> que
>> hacen a la existencia de entidades orientadas al usuario final de
>> Internet,
>> es decir, NOSOTROS.
>> Con seguridad hay distintas legislaciones para cada país, al menos en
>> algunos ítems sustanciales. Aunque hay países que aún no tienen
>> legislación.
>> Hay 30 días para comentarios, es poco tiempo para la importancia del
>> tema.
>> Sugiero que muy rápidamente las respectivas ALSs de cada país de nuestra
>> Región, lea los antecedentes de esta referencia, y luego informen la
>> legislación vigente en su respectivo país, con comentarios. También
>> sugiero
>> que para esta primera fase, la fecha límite sea el próximo viernes
>> 28/03/2014.
>> También sugiero que quienes están participando en Singapur, sean eximidos
>> de
>> participar, tienen cosas muy importante que hacer por nosotros.
>>
>> Saludos cordiales
>>
>> Alberto Soto
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>
>> [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>
>> <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] En nombre de
>> Dr.
>> Alejandro Pisanty Baruch
>> Enviado el: viernes, 21 de marzo de 2014 11:25 p.m.
>> Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>
>> <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>
>> Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] RV: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- ICANN
>> Seeks
>>
>> Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements and
>> Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention
>>
>> Colegas,
>>
>> el llamado anexo puede tener implicaciones legales apreciables en nuestra
>> región. Convoquemos a los expertos en protección de datos personales y
>> otros
>> temas relacionados con la retención de datos (cómputo forense, leyes de
>> telecomunicaciones, Marco Civil en el caso particular de Brasil) para
>> conformar una opinión sólida, si hay el interés suficiente.
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>>
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>> 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data Elements and Legitimate
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>> ________________________________
>> ICANN Seeks Public Comment on 2013 RAA Data Retention Specification Data
>> Elements and Legitimate Purposes for Collection and Retention
>>
>> 21 March 2014
>>
>> ICANN has been in discussions with a number of Registrars regarding data
>> retention waiver requests ("Waiver Requests") submitted under the 2013
>> Registrar Accreditation Agreement (the "2013 RAA"). Some Registrars are
>> seeking an exemption from certain collection and/or retention requirements
>> under the Data Retention Specification (the "Specification") of the 2013
>> RAA. Section 2 of the Data Retention Specification sets forth requirements
>> regarding the written materials a Registrar must submit in support of its
>> good faith determination that the collection and/or retention of any data
>> element specified in the Specification violates applicable law, and
>> provides
>> that following notice to ICANN of the Waiver Request, ICANN and the
>> applicable Registrar shall discuss the matter in good faith in an effort
>> to
>> reach a mutually acceptable resolution of the matter. An update on the
>> 2013
>> RAA and the data retention waiver process can be found here:
>>
>> http://blog.icann.org/2014/02/update-on-2013-raa-and-data-retention-waiver-p
>>
>> <
>> http://blog.icann.org/2014/02/update-on-2013-raa-and-data-retention-waiver-
>> process/>
>>
>> rocess/
>>
>> ICANN understands that personal data should be treated in accordance with
>> applicable data protection laws, which generally permit gathering and
>> retention of personal data for legitimate purpose(s). ICANN also
>> understands
>> that the law may vary from country to country as to (i) what is
>> considered a
>> legitimate purpose, (ii) whether the personal data is adequate, relevant
>> and
>> not excessive in relation to the legitimate purpose for which they are
>> collected and (iii) for how long certain data elements may be retained. In
>> other words, what is considered a legitimate purpose for collection of
>> certain data in one country may not be considered a legitimate purpose in
>> another country.
>>
>> During ICANN's discussions in an effort to reach a mutually acceptable
>> resolution of the matter, some Registrars have requested that ICANN (a)
>> clarify and better define certain data elements described in the Data
>> Retention Specification that the Registrars maintain are not clearly
>> defined; and (b) describe potentially legitimate purposes for collection
>> and
>> retention of each data element that would help provide guidance for
>> Registrars both as to whether such elements may be lawfully collected,
>> and,
>> if so, for how long such elements might lawfully be retained.
>>
>> In response to these requests from some Registrars, ICANN is posting for
>> public comment a document seeking to clarify what is meant by certain data
>> elements described in the Data Retention Specification and describing
>> potentially legitimate purposes for collection and retention of those data
>> elements. That document can be found
>> here<
>> http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/draft-data-retention-s
>>
>> <
>> http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/draft-data-retention-spec-
>> elements-21mar14-en.pdf<http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/draft-data-retention-spec-…>
>> >
>>
>> pec-elements-21mar14-en.pdf> [PDF, 116 KB]. The document will be posted
>> for
>> a period of thirty (30) days to seek feedback and input from the community
>> on (i) whether the data elements are appropriately described, (ii) whether
>> the cited purposes for collection and retention are appropriate and
>> legitimate, and (iii) whether there are other potentially legitimate
>> purposes for collection and retention of such data elements. After the
>> thirty (30) day period following this posting has expired, ICANN will
>> consider all feedback and input received in connection with ICANN's
>> ongoing
>> discussions to reach a mutually acceptable resolution of Waiver Requests.
>> In
>> the interim, ICANN will continue its ongoing discussions to reach a
>> mutually
>> acceptable resolution of Waiver Requests with individual Registrars with
>> the
>> goal of granting additional Waiver Requests as and when appropriate.
>>
>> A public comment period will remain open until 23:59 p.m. PDT/California,
>> 21
>> April 2014. Public comments will be available for consideration by ICANN
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Re: [lac-discuss-en] VOTE RESULTS: 2014 Manager-At-Large Board (Seat # 15) Selection Process
by carlton.samuels@gmail.com April 6, 2014
by carlton.samuels@gmail.com April 6, 2014
April 6, 2014
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Subject: Re: VOTE RESULTS: 2014 Manager-At-Large Board (Seat # 15) Selection Process
From: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com
When I See .... this thread I do not know why Robin Crawford comes top of
mind ......
To my mind the issue is acerca culture moreso than any one voting member.
ICANN is an American corporation; shorthand for saying it is acculturated
in a specific way. Its world view, decision model and management practices
Un Certain springs from a philosophical base. In this framework Un certain
interests are inherently constrained. Some sentient ones Understand This
and so now, some moves are in play to address This. Time will tell Whether
They are fit to purpose or not.
On the balance of fact, understanding of dynamics and Cultural Board
stasis, I'm not so sure another "At-Large Board Member" will deliver what
Most of us believe to be good and Necessary, absent a culture shift.
-Carlton
==============================
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=============================
On Fri, April 4, 2014 at 6:29 PM, <ocl(a)gih.com> wrote:
>
> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
>
> Subject: Re: VOTE RESULTS: 2014 Director-At-Large Board (Seat # 15)
> Selection Process
> From: ocl(a)gih.com
>
> Dear Wolfgang,
>
>
> thank you for this reminder of the history.
>
>
> I'd like to hear more from our Community on Whether They Should we think
> be pushing for a second manager position now that we've had another
> successful round of selection of a Board director.
>
>
> Fadi Chehadmentioned today in the At-Large Election When speaking
> about the multi-stakeholder model at the Hudson Institute
>
> http://www.hudson.org/events/1144-the-future-of-internet-governance-a-discu…
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> Olivier
>
>
> On 30/03/2014 11:32, "Kleinwchter, Wolfgang" wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I also want to join the many thanks to Sebastian (great job), to Rinalia
> (great challenge) and Roberto and Tijani (well done). Nothing more to add
> what Veronica has said so nicely and well structured.
> >
> > I this context: DonŽt forget the History. In the present NTIA transition
> discussion a lot of "orginal ideas" from 1998 are remembered. One orginal
> idea was to give the At Large Membership nine voting seats. Article V,
> Section 4 of the Orginal Bylaws (November 6, 1998) said in para. iv: "Nine
> (9) At Large Directors, selected pursuant to a process to be established by
> a majority vote of all the At Large Board members of the Initial Board".
> > http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws/bylaws-06nov98-en.htm#V
> >
> > We know the history. Five voting directors were elected in 2000 for two
> years. In November 2001 the At Large Membership Committee, chaired by Carl
> Bildt, recommended the establishment of an At Large Supporting Organisation
> (ALSO) with the right to send six voting directors to the board.
> >
> http://archive.icann.org/en/committees/at-large/final-report-05nov01.htm#_t…
> >
> > In 2002, as part of the general ICANN reform process the ideas of an At
> Large elections and the establishment of an ALSO with six regional councils
> were abolished and were substituted by an "At Large Advisory Committee"
> (ALAC) with five RALOs, a certification process for ALSs and the
> establishment of a NomCon which now sends eight directors to the board. The
> NomCom got five voting At Large Members. The chair of ALAC was invited to
> serve as a non-votong liaison in the Board (similar to the chair of the
> GAC).
> >
> > In the preparation for ATLAS I in Mexico in 2008 we were calling for two
> voting ALAC Board members. We got one. Now ATLAS II is at the horizon. We
> need a strong message from ATLAS II that the multistakeholder model - which
> is now under tough discussion and has to face its "moment of truth" - will
> work only, if you have a strong civil society role in policy development
> and decision making.
> >
> > Here we have to invest more how to do this and to go out of our silos
> both within the broader CS community (in particular with NCUC and NPOC) as
> well as in cross constituency communication, coordination and collaboration
> with private sector, technical community and governments. A big
> challenge.
> >
> > Wolfgang
> >
> >
> >
> > wolfgang
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > Von: euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org im Auftrag von
> Veronica Cretu
> > Gesendet: Sa 29.03.2014 15:55
> > An: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
> > Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org;
> lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org;
> euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org;
> ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org;
> apac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; At-Large Worldwide;
> na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] [At-Large] VOTE RESULTS: 2014 At-Large Board
> Director (Seat #15) Selection Process
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear colleagues, dear Olivier - thanks for this message and to echo and
> > build up on it, I would also like to:
> >
> > - Thank *Sebastian* for the work done in his capacity as a member of the
> > Board and wish him success in the upcoming new roles and initiatives. We
> > all continue building on our previous experiences, so this process should
> > be a continuous exercise and include those who can learn from us - so, I
> am
> > sure Sebastian will find good ways to share the wealth of expertise
> gained
> > in his role as a Board member and continue serve the community in the
> best
> > possible ways.
> >
> > - Congratulate *Rinalia* for being elected to the Board and wish her much
> > luck in this interesting, yet, challenging new role. These are important
> > times for ICANN which will require several key competences, and awareness
> > of geo-political realities in different parts of the world. I trust
> Rinalia
> > will be able to deliver on the expectations on the community-at-large.
> >
> > - Thank *Roberto* for the wonderful leadership of the BCEC - it has been
> > for me, personally, a great experience. Like in any experience there are
> > always things to learn from and improve based on the input from members.
> >
> > On this note, hope everyone attending ICANN 49 managed to return home
> safe
> > & sound, otherwise, wishing you safe travels back home!
> >
> > With very best,
> > Veronica
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl(a)gih.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> I wanted to extend my congratulations to Rinalia Abdul Rahim in what was
> >> a very balanced election that required many rounds to differentiate the
> >> candidates.
> >>
> >> Rinalia has been selected by our community to sit on the Board at a
> >> moment that is not only crucial for At-Large but also crucial for ICANN
> >> as a whole. She will take her seat at the 2014 ICANN Annual General
> >> Meeting - the last meeting of the year - which will take place in Los
> >> Angeles.
> >>
> >> Thanks to all of the candidates who have run for the position. It is
> >> through a wide candidate list that we can assure a wider choice of
> >> options for the future of our community.
> >>
> >> Thanks to Roberto Gaetano and the Board Candidate Evaluation Committee.
> >> Their work has been crucial in providing a first class short-list of
> >> candidates.
> >>
> >> Thanks to Tijani Ben Jemaa and the Board Member Selection Process
> >> Committee for their stewardship of a process that has been challenging
> >> due to the multiple instances of Ties.
> >>
> >> The work of these Committees is not over. They will analyse lessons
> >> learnt and work together to provide the ALAC with an updated set of
> >> recommendations to improve the selection process next time around.
> >>
> >> Finally, I would like to remind you that until the 2014 ICANN AGM, the
> >> Board Member selected by At-Large is Sébastien Bachollet and would like
> >> to reaffirm the full support of our community in the challenging months
> >> ahead of us. We are well aware that he is not on the Board to "represent
> >> us" but as a candidate from our community selected to the Board by our
> >> community, he has proven himself to share his experience of Internet End
> >> Users with his Board Colleagues and we are grateful of his continued
> >> involvement in all matters of ICANN.
> >>
> >> Kindest regards,
> >>
> >> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
> >> ALAC Chair
> >>
> >> On 26/03/2014 15:06, ICANN At-Large Staff wrote:
> >>> Dear All,
> >>>
> >>> Tijani Ben Jemaa, Chair of the Board Member Selection Process Committee
> >> (BMSPC) 2014, has asked that an announcement on the final vote results
> of
> >> the Board Director (Seat #15) selected by the ALAC/At-Large for
> 2015-2017
> >> (to take their seat at the 2014 AGM) be published.
> >>> This is to inform you that the 2014 At-Large Board Director (Seat #15)
> >> Selection Process was completed on 25-March-2014.
> >>> Below is the list of candidates (listed in alphabetical order of the
> >> family name) who ran for the position:
> >>> * Rinalia Abdul Rahim
> >>> * Sébastien Bachollet
> >>> * Alan Greenberg
> >>> * Evan Leibovitch
> >>> * Jean-Jacques Subrenat
> >>>
> >>> After the FIRST ROUND VOTE and the SECOND ROUND's first vote, tie
> >> breaking vote, and second (final) vote, the candidate who is selected as
> >> the Board Director (Seat #15) by ALAC/At-Large for 2015-2017 is: Rinalia
> >> Abdul Rahim.
> >>> You may review the results, as well as the detailed information about
> >> the selection procedure, under: https://community.icann.org/x/WinRAg.
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie
> >> Peregrine and Terri Agnew
> >>> ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> >>> E-mail: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org%
> 3cmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>
> >> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org
> >>
> <applewebdata://68497759-1B04-4F9B-84B7-B9445B8F305F/Regards,%20Heidi%20Ullrich,%20Silvia%20Vivanco,%20Matt%20Ashtiani,%20Ariel%20Liang,%20Gisella%20Gruber,%
> >>
> 20Nathalie%20Peregrine%20and%20Julia%20Charvolen%20ICANN%20Policy%20Staff%20in%20support%20of%20ALACmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org
> >>>
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> > --
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> >
> >
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> >
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> >*
> >
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> > *To the Internet Governance Forum (IGF)*
> >
> > *http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/1549
> > <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/>*
> >
> > *Member of the Nominating Committee of ICANN*
> > *(Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbering)*
> >
> > *http://www.icann.org/en/groups/nomcom/2014/members <
> http://www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> >*
> >
> >
> >
> > *Email: veronicacretu(a)gmail.com <veronicacretu(a)gmail.com> and/or
> > veronica(a)cretu.md <veronica(a)cretu.md>Skype: veronicacretu Phone: 373
> > 067435000*
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> >
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> >
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [lac-discuss-en] VOTE RESULTS: 2014 Director-At-Large Board (Seat # 15) Selection Process
by ocl@gih.com April 6, 2014
by ocl@gih.com April 6, 2014
April 6, 2014
[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
Subject: Re: VOTE RESULTS: 2014 Director-At-Large Board (Seat # 15) Selection Process
From: ocl(a)gih.com
Dear Wolfgang,
thank you for this reminder of the history.
I'd like to hear more from our Community on Whether They Should we think
be pushing for a second manager position now that we've had another
successful round of selection of a Board director.
Fadi Chehadmentioned today in the At-Large Election When speaking
about the multi-stakeholder model at the Hudson Institute
http://www.hudson.org/events/1144-the-future-of-internet-governance-a-discu…
Kind regards,
Olivier
On 30/03/2014 11:32, "Kleinwchter, Wolfgang" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I also want to join the many thanks to Sebastian (great job), to Rinalia (great challenge) and Roberto and Tijani (well done). Nothing more to add what Veronica has said so nicely and well structured.
>
> I this context: DonŽt forget the History. In the present NTIA transition discussion a lot of "orginal ideas" from 1998 are remembered. One orginal idea was to give the At Large Membership nine voting seats. Article V, Section 4 of the Orginal Bylaws (November 6, 1998) said in para. iv: "Nine (9) At Large Directors, selected pursuant to a process to be established by a majority vote of all the At Large Board members of the Initial Board".
> http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws/bylaws-06nov98-en.htm#V
>
> We know the history. Five voting directors were elected in 2000 for two years. In November 2001 the At Large Membership Committee, chaired by Carl Bildt, recommended the establishment of an At Large Supporting Organisation (ALSO) with the right to send six voting directors to the board.
> http://archive.icann.org/en/committees/at-large/final-report-05nov01.htm#_t…
>
> In 2002, as part of the general ICANN reform process the ideas of an At Large elections and the establishment of an ALSO with six regional councils were abolished and were substituted by an "At Large Advisory Committee" (ALAC) with five RALOs, a certification process for ALSs and the establishment of a NomCon which now sends eight directors to the board. The NomCom got five voting At Large Members. The chair of ALAC was invited to serve as a non-votong liaison in the Board (similar to the chair of the GAC).
>
> In the preparation for ATLAS I in Mexico in 2008 we were calling for two voting ALAC Board members. We got one. Now ATLAS II is at the horizon. We need a strong message from ATLAS II that the multistakeholder model - which is now under tough discussion and has to face its "moment of truth" - will work only, if you have a strong civil society role in policy development and decision making.
>
> Here we have to invest more how to do this and to go out of our silos both within the broader CS community (in particular with NCUC and NPOC) as well as in cross constituency communication, coordination and collaboration with private sector, technical community and governments. A big challenge.
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
>
> wolfgang
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Von: euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org im Auftrag von Veronica Cretu
> Gesendet: Sa 29.03.2014 15:55
> An: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
> Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; apac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; At-Large Worldwide; na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] [At-Large] VOTE RESULTS: 2014 At-Large Board Director (Seat #15) Selection Process
>
>
>
> Dear colleagues, dear Olivier - thanks for this message and to echo and
> build up on it, I would also like to:
>
> - Thank *Sebastian* for the work done in his capacity as a member of the
> Board and wish him success in the upcoming new roles and initiatives. We
> all continue building on our previous experiences, so this process should
> be a continuous exercise and include those who can learn from us - so, I am
> sure Sebastian will find good ways to share the wealth of expertise gained
> in his role as a Board member and continue serve the community in the best
> possible ways.
>
> - Congratulate *Rinalia* for being elected to the Board and wish her much
> luck in this interesting, yet, challenging new role. These are important
> times for ICANN which will require several key competences, and awareness
> of geo-political realities in different parts of the world. I trust Rinalia
> will be able to deliver on the expectations on the community-at-large.
>
> - Thank *Roberto* for the wonderful leadership of the BCEC - it has been
> for me, personally, a great experience. Like in any experience there are
> always things to learn from and improve based on the input from members.
>
> On this note, hope everyone attending ICANN 49 managed to return home safe
> & sound, otherwise, wishing you safe travels back home!
>
> With very best,
> Veronica
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl(a)gih.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I wanted to extend my congratulations to Rinalia Abdul Rahim in what was
>> a very balanced election that required many rounds to differentiate the
>> candidates.
>>
>> Rinalia has been selected by our community to sit on the Board at a
>> moment that is not only crucial for At-Large but also crucial for ICANN
>> as a whole. She will take her seat at the 2014 ICANN Annual General
>> Meeting - the last meeting of the year - which will take place in Los
>> Angeles.
>>
>> Thanks to all of the candidates who have run for the position. It is
>> through a wide candidate list that we can assure a wider choice of
>> options for the future of our community.
>>
>> Thanks to Roberto Gaetano and the Board Candidate Evaluation Committee.
>> Their work has been crucial in providing a first class short-list of
>> candidates.
>>
>> Thanks to Tijani Ben Jemaa and the Board Member Selection Process
>> Committee for their stewardship of a process that has been challenging
>> due to the multiple instances of Ties.
>>
>> The work of these Committees is not over. They will analyse lessons
>> learnt and work together to provide the ALAC with an updated set of
>> recommendations to improve the selection process next time around.
>>
>> Finally, I would like to remind you that until the 2014 ICANN AGM, the
>> Board Member selected by At-Large is Sébastien Bachollet and would like
>> to reaffirm the full support of our community in the challenging months
>> ahead of us. We are well aware that he is not on the Board to "represent
>> us" but as a candidate from our community selected to the Board by our
>> community, he has proven himself to share his experience of Internet End
>> Users with his Board Colleagues and we are grateful of his continued
>> involvement in all matters of ICANN.
>>
>> Kindest regards,
>>
>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
>> ALAC Chair
>>
>> On 26/03/2014 15:06, ICANN At-Large Staff wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Tijani Ben Jemaa, Chair of the Board Member Selection Process Committee
>> (BMSPC) 2014, has asked that an announcement on the final vote results of
>> the Board Director (Seat #15) selected by the ALAC/At-Large for 2015-2017
>> (to take their seat at the 2014 AGM) be published.
>>> This is to inform you that the 2014 At-Large Board Director (Seat #15)
>> Selection Process was completed on 25-March-2014.
>>> Below is the list of candidates (listed in alphabetical order of the
>> family name) who ran for the position:
>>> * Rinalia Abdul Rahim
>>> * Sébastien Bachollet
>>> * Alan Greenberg
>>> * Evan Leibovitch
>>> * Jean-Jacques Subrenat
>>>
>>> After the FIRST ROUND VOTE and the SECOND ROUND's first vote, tie
>> breaking vote, and second (final) vote, the candidate who is selected as
>> the Board Director (Seat #15) by ALAC/At-Large for 2015-2017 is: Rinalia
>> Abdul Rahim.
>>> You may review the results, as well as the detailed information about
>> the selection procedure, under: https://community.icann.org/x/WinRAg.
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie
>> Peregrine and Terri Agnew
>>> ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
>>> E-mail: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org%3cmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>
>> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org
>> <applewebdata://68497759-1B04-4F9B-84B7-B9445B8F305F/Regards,%20Heidi%20Ullrich,%20Silvia%20Vivanco,%20Matt%20Ashtiani,%20Ariel%20Liang,%20Gisella%20Gruber,%
>> 20Nathalie%20Peregrine%20and%20Julia%20Charvolen%20ICANN%20Policy%20Staff%20in%20support%20of%20ALACmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org
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>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large
>>>
>>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org <http://atlarge.icann.org/>
>>>
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>
>
> --
> *Veronica Cretu *
>
>
> *President, Open Government Institute**Republic of Moldova
> - http://opengov.si.md/ <http://opengov.si.md/>*
>
> *Member of the Steering Committee, *
> *Open Government Partnership (OGP);*
> *http://www.opengovpartnership.org/about/steering-committee/role-and-current-membership
> <http://www.opengovpartnership.org/about/steering-committee/role-and-current…>*
>
> *Member of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group*
> *To the Internet Governance Forum (IGF)*
>
> *http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/1549
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/>*
>
> *Member of the Nominating Committee of ICANN*
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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ? = Iso-8859-1 q = F3n_de_Sufragio = enlargement?
by asoto@ibero-americano.org April 6, 2014
by asoto@ibero-americano.org April 6, 2014
April 6, 2014
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Subject: Re:? = Iso-8859-1 q = F3n_de_Sufragio = enlargement?
From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org
Dear, to begin discussing and I think without delay.
Best Regards
Alberto Soto
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Subject: Re: enlargement of Suffrage
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Subject: Re: enlargement of Suffrage
From: toml(a)communisphere.com
Ariel,
I'm going to send this message to discuss the six THIN According lists
his petition.
Tom
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Hi Thomas, I hope the day went well. May you please come back
to
post titled The extension of suffrage to discuss the six THIN
mail
lists? I accentually
the message and will allow the message to go to this Travs
time.
Apologize for the inconvenience. Thanks, Ariel
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Olivier,
Wolfgang appreciate to raise the matter of the position of At-Large in
of the governance structure of ICANN (see below), and extending
an invitation to comment.
In a paper presented to NETmundial
<http://www.coactivate.org/projects/campaign-for.nyc/blog/2014/03/08/260/>
approach the Cuestin suffrage in governance processes of ICANN.
We look at the right to vote in the ICANN today and draw a parallel to
Latin in 1787, when 3% of the population was eligible to vote:
basically large agrcolas owners (no blacks, women, or
bad).
Our paper propona we take a first step in extending
ICANN suffrage to return to the selection of the 5 board members
by At-Large, one member from each region. Permtanme
reiterate, this is "one step" with ms suffrage extensions
Required.
The document
<http://www.coactivate.org/projects/campaign-for.nyc/blog/2014/03/08/260/>
Also a formal role for cities proposed in the process of
governance of ICANN.
Best,
Tom Lowenhaupt
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Connecting.nyc Inc.
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On 04/04/2014 19:28 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
> Dear Wolfgang,
>
> thank you for this reminder of the history.
>
> I'd like to hear more from our Community on whether they think we should
> be pushing for a second director position now that we've had another
> successful round of selection of a Board Director.
>
> Fadi Chehadé mentioned today the Election in At-Large when speaking
> about the multi-stakeholder model at the Hudson Institute
>
sion-with-icann-s-ceo-the-head-of-the-ntia-and-more42014
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> On 30/03/2014 11:32, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I also want to join the many thanks to Sebastian (great job), to Rinalia
Veronica what you said so nicely and well structured.
>>
I this >> context: Dont forget the History. In the present NTIA transition
a lot of discussion "orginal ideas," from 1998 are remembered. Orginal One
thought was to give the At Large Membership nine voting seats. Article V,
Section 4 of the Bylaws Orginal (November 6, 1998) said in for. iv: "Nine
(9) At Large Directors, selected pursuant to a process to be established by
a majority vote of all the Board At Large members of the Initial Board ".
Http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws/bylaws-06nov98-en.htm >> # V
>>
>> We know the history. ELECTED Were Five directors voting in 2000 for two
years. In November 2001 the At Large Membership Committee, chaired by Carl
Bildt, recommended the establishment of an At Large Supporting Organisation
(ALSO) With the right to send six voting directors to the board.
>>
http://archive.icann.org/en/committees/at-large/final-report-05nov01.htm # _to
c523422641
>>
>> In 2002, as part of the overall reform process ICANN the thoughts of an At
Large elections and the establishment of an ALSO with six regional councils
Were Were Abolished and Substituted by an "At Large Advisory Committee"
(ALAC) WITH five RALOs, a certification process for ALS and the
establishment of a setName Which now sends eight directors to the board. The
NomCom got five voting Members At Large. The chair of ALAC was invited to
serve as a non-votong liaison in the Board (similar to the chair of the
GAC).
>>
>> In preparation for the ATLAS I in Mexico in 2008 we where calling for two
ALAC voting Board members. We got one.Now ATLAS II is at the horizon. We
need a strong message from ATLAS II That the multistakeholder model - which
Tough is now under discussion and has to face its "moment of truth" - will
work only, if you have a strong civil society role in policy development and
decision making.
>>
Here >> info we have to invest more how to do this and to go out of our silos
Within the Broader Both CS community (in particular, with NCUC and NPOC) as
well as in cross constituency communication, coordination and collaboration
with private sector technical community and Governments. A big
challenge.
>>
Wolfgang >>
>>
>>
>>
Wolfgang >>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________ >>
>>
>> Von: euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org im Auftrag von Veronica
Cretu
>> Gesendet: Sa 29.03.2014 15:55
An >> Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
>>
Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann
. Org; euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.o
rg; ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; apac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.or
g; At-Large Worldwide; na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] [At-Large] VOTE RESULTS: At-Large Board 2014
Director (Seat # 15) Selection Process
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear colleagues, dear Olivier - thanks for this message and to cast and
>> Build up on it, I would also like to:
>>
>> - * Sebastian * Thank for the work done in his capacity as a member of the
Board and wish him >> success in the upcoming new roles and Initiatives.We
All >> continue building on our previous experiences, So This Should process
Be a continuous exercise >> and include Those who can learn from us - so, I
am
Sebastian >> sure will find good ways to share the wealth of expertise
Gained
In his role as >> Board member and continue to serve the community in the
best
Possible >> ways.
>>
>> - Congratulate Rinalia * for * being ELECTED to the Board and wish her much
In this interesting >> luck, yet, challenging new role. These are important
Which >> times for ICANN will require several key competences, and awareness
>> Geo-political realities of in different parts of the world. I trust
Rinalia
Will be >> able to deliver on the expectations on the community-at-large.
>>
>> - * Roberto * Thank for the wonderful leadership of the BCEC - it has-been
>> For me, personally, a great experience. Like in any experience there are
>> Always things to learn from and based on the Improve input from members.
>>
On this >> note, hope everyone attending ICANN 49 managed to return home
safe
& >> Sound, Otherwise, wishing you safe travels back home!
>>
With >> very best,
Veronica >>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Olivier MJ
Crepin-Leblond <ocl(a)gih.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
I >>> wanted to extend my congratulations to Rinalia Abdul Rahim in what was
A very balanced election >>> That many rounds required to differentiate the
>>> Candidates.
>>>
Rinalia >>> has-been selected by our community to sit on the Board at a
Moment >>> That is not only crucial for At-Large But Also crucial for ICANN
As a whole >>>. She will take her seat at the 2014 ICANN Annual General
Meeting >>> - the last meeting of the year - which will take place in Los
>>> Angeles.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all of the candidates Who Have run for the position. It is
Through a wide >>> That candidate list we can a wider choice of ECOG
>>> Options for the future of our community.
>>>
Thanks to Roberto Gaetano >>> and the Board Candidate Evaluation Committee.
Their work >>> has-been crucial in providing a first class short-list of
>>> Candidates.
>>>
Thanks to >>> Tijani Ben Jemaa and the Board Member Selection Process
Their >>> Committee for stewardship of a process That has-been challenging
>>> Due to the multiple instances of Ties.
>>>
The work >>> of These Committees is not over. They will analyze lessons
Learnt >>> and work together to Provide the ALAC With An updated set of
Recommendations to >>> Improve the selection process next time around.
>>>
>>> Finally, I would like to remind you That ICANN until the 2014 AGM, the
Selected by >>> Board Member At-Large is Sbastien Bachollet and would like
>>> To reaffirm the full support of our community in the challenging months
>>> Ahead of us.We are well aware That I is not on the Board to "represent
>>> Us "but as a candidate from our community selected to the Board by our
>>> Community, I've proven himself to share his experience of Internet End
Board Members >>> With His Colleagues and we are grateful of his continued
Involvement in all matters >>> of ICANN.
>>>
>>> Kindest regards,
>>>
Olivier MJ >>> Crpin-Leblond
ALAC Chair >>>
>>>
>>> On 03/26/2014 15:06, ICANN At-Large Staff wrote:
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
Tijani Ben Jemaa >>>>, Chair of the Board Committee Member Selection Process
>>> (BMSPC) 2014 That has asked an announcement on the Final vote results
of
The Board Manager >>> (Seat # 15) selected by the ALAC / At-Large for
2015-2017
>>> (To take Their seat at the 2014 AGM) be published.
This is to inform >>>> You That the 2014 Director-At-Large Board (Seat # 15)
Selection Process >>> was completed on 25-March-2014.
Below is the >>>> list of candidates (listed in alphabetical order of the
>>> Family name) who ran for the position:
* Abdul Rahim Rinalia >>>>
* Sbastien Bachollet >>>>
* >>>> Alan Greenberg
* Evan Leibovitch >>>>
* Jean-Jacques >>>> Subrenat
>>>>
After the FIRST ROUND >>>> VOTE and the SECOND ROUND's first vote, tie
>>> Breaking vote, and second (final) vote, the candidate who is selected as
The Board Manager >>> (Seat # 15) by ALAC / At-Large for 2015-2017 is: Rinalia
Abdul Rahim >>>.
You May >>>> review the results, as well as the detailed information about The
The >>> selection procedure, under: https://community.icann.org/x/WinRAg.
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
Heidi Ullrich >>>> Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie
Peregrine and Terri Agnew >>>
ICANN Policy Staff >>>> in support of ALAC
>>>>
E-mail: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org%3cmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>
Staff(a)atlarge.icann.org >>>
>>>
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At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>
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<http://atlarge.icann.org/>
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Re: [lac-discuss-en] R: R: VOTE RESULTS: 2014 Director-At-Large Board (Seat # 15) Selection Process
by apisanty@gmail.com April 5, 2014
by apisanty@gmail.com April 5, 2014
April 5, 2014
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Subject: Re: R: R: VOTE RESULTS: 2014 Director-At-Large Board (Seat # 15) Selection Process
From: apisanty(a)gmail.com
Veronica,
this only Brings in more bureaucracy with little value added, esp. if the
Assessed groups are to be defensive. The wrong incentives are in place.
Alejandro Pisanty
On Sat, April 5, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Cretu Veronica <veronicacretu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear colleagues, greetings!
>
> I find this exchange of ideas, views and reflections extremely valuable! I
> can only imagine what a wonderful face-to-face activity this might be with
> at-large members brainstorming and 'designing' the future through the prism
> of the history and current developments:)!
>
> Few reflections on some of the aspects, based on my experience of being on
> this years' NomCom (and part of 2013 NomCom):
>
> - When it comes to the competency level of NomCom members (as this aspect
> has been touched upon by Adam and Alejandro), I think it might be worth for
> the NomCom to have a capacity/competency assessment tool that would allow
> for a 'scanning' of what competencies are there within the committee
> itself, and what competencies are needed. Before any 'new' NomCom is
> appointed/selected, this evaluation has to be made, and appointments of the
> new members would be in line with some of the missing
> elements/competencies, etc.
>
> Each and every single member of NomCom brings in certain knowledge,
> skills/expertise and experiences per different sectors (not only ICANN/IG
> related). The degree to which NomCom manages to create or build synergy
> between these valuable 'attributes' of the members, determines the quality
> of the selection process indeed.
>
> - The same kind of assessment/approach should take place at the level of
> the Board - without a clear picture of the key areas and competencies
> needed, it is difficult to bring in the 'right fit' for the given context,
> given realities and the type of future one aims at building/creating
> for/within ICANN's ecosystem.
>
> So, having a Board Capacity Assessment Tool and a NomCom Capacity
> Assessment Tool would indeed ensure the continuity of the structures, and
> would continue on bringing in the 'right fits' whenever necessary.
> Institutionalizing the approach could take 2-3 years, after some pilot
> phase results would be available.
>
> A great weekend ahead everyone!
>
> With very best,
> Veronica
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Adam Peake <ajp(a)glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alejandro,
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2014, at 2:30 AM, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>>
>> > Adam,
>> >
>> > this reply of mine will only go to some lists (it is too much
>> cross-posted.)
>> >
>>
>> And there still is. It's quite a collection of addresses.
>>
>>
>> > Your admission in the last sentence is the key to simplifying this
>> discussion of the ICANN NomCom and giving it some realistic focus.
>> >
>> > You say that you often felt inadequate in judging the merits of
>> candidates who were way above your capacity. You should have resigned at
>> that very moment but let's skip that part and go into a more general
>> statement.
>> >
>>
>>
>> I didn't quite say what you have interpreted me as saying. But it was a
>> throw-away comment, and you got my meaning below:
>>
>>
>> > The design of the NomCom foresaw an implementation in which every
>> community that designates members of the NomCom would send a "senior
>> statesperson", someone who would exert stewardship over the greater good,
>> without disregarding that communities' own interests and driving
>> principles. In practice this failed to happen. Instead frequently the
>> communities designated non-independent, junior people who had to prove
>> their merit to the community in the NomCom and could hope for some reward
>> later on.
>> >
>>
>>
>> To a degree yes, too often I felt the NomCom delegate position wasn't
>> much of priority to the sending group -- perhaps only welcome when someone
>> realized it meant an extra person from their group being funded to attend a
>> couple of meetings. On the other hand, there's usually a smattering of
>> former board members or people with some equal experience in each
>> committee. Though very few have experience in high-level recruitment,
>> evaluation etc.
>>
>> People I've served with took their role seriously, worked hard, were
>> honest, and produced overall good results. The process has improved over
>> the years. This year's committee had a bit of training in a few relevant
>> HR techniques (should have started years ago). NomCom membership needs an
>> urgent reworking, other than that, I think it does what it's asked.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>> > This breakdown in trust and resignation of stewardship has been toxic.
>> There is nothing that can be written in the rules that can cause change
>> towards a stewardship and earning-trust model. It has to be the action of
>> the community itself that begins thinking less of how to get a larger size
>> of the pie and more of how to make the pie better.
>> >
>> > Therefore I think that this is the worst of times for a major rethink
>> of the NomCom and other processes that get Directors to the Board. Change
>> may be needed, though what change is needed is a very open discussion. But
>> the thing to focus on right now is the substitution of the NTIA's function,
>> nothing more. If that implies other changes these must be very convincing.
>> >
>> > Yours,
>> >
>> > Alejandro Pisanty
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Adam Peake <ajp(a)glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
>> > I've been involved in NomCom far too many times :-) And each year the
>> community was asked for input on the criteria.
>> >
>> > ICANN is a large and complex organization: having experience of complex
>> organizations, budgets, strategic planning, it part of the job. Doesn't
>> mean it has to be a person's only skill, but in a broad aggregate it needs
>> to be present. And smart people will learn, but you don't want too many
>> learning on the job when they are voting on issues that affect millions and
>> $millions. Look at the people NomCom has appointed. There's only one that
>> fits the pure "large corporate board" category.
>> >
>> > Selection of NomCom members does need more thought. I often felt a
>> fraud judging people on criteria I myself had little or no experience of.
>> >
>> > Adam
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 4, 2014, at 12:31 AM, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
>> >
>> > > Carlton,
>> > >
>> > > I completely agree with you, the criteria given to NomCom have to be
>> > > thoroughly revised.
>> > >
>> > > Experience on "large corporate boards" has been an indication given to
>> > > NomCom in the past, but I believe that one of the key words in the
>> ideal
>> > > Director profile is "in aggregate".
>> > >
>> > > This means that while ideally a Director has to have an incredible
>> knowledge
>> > > and experience, this is meant in the sense that the Board, as a
>> whole, needs
>> > > to have this wealth of knowledge and experience, not necessarily each
>> and
>> > > every Director. So, it might well be that at certain moments there is
>> not
>> > > enough large corporate boards experience on the Board, and it will be
>> > > legitimate to look for reinforcing this aspect, but this does not
>> mean that
>> > > all candidates that do not have such item in the profile should be
>> > > discarded. To make an example, if "large corporate boards" is a need,
>> > > "non-profit boards" is well another one.
>> > >
>> > > So the two big questions are:
>> > >
>> > > - How to cefine the requirements for NomCom
>> > >
>> > > - How to select the NomCom members (i.e. is the current
>> mechanism
>> > > the best one?)
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > >
>> > > Roberto
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Da: Carlton Samuels [mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com]
>> > > Inviato: mercoledì 2 aprile 2014 02:56
>> > > A: Roberto Gaetano
>> > > Cc: Sivasubramanian M; Kleinwächter, Wolfgang;
>> > > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; Spanish version of
>> lac-discuss;
>> > > Discussion for At-Large Europe; afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> > > Discuss; At-Large Announcements; APRALO; At-Large Worldwide; NA
>> Discuss
>> > > Oggetto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] R: [EURO-Discuss] [APAC-Discuss]
>> [At-Large]
>> > > VOTE RESULTS: 2014 At-Large Board Director (Seat #15) Selection
>> Process
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Roberto:
>> > >
>> > > I too believe what you're proposing is not just sensible but
>> strategic and
>> > > in the overarching At-Large interest.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Maybe its because of my position that on principle, I simply cannot
>> accept
>> > > that in matters of governance and when part of a distant group and
>> with
>> > > respect to decision-making, the representative should be obliged to
>> 'take
>> > > the whip' - meaning follow the instructions - of his/her group. This
>> is my
>> > > position regardless of the size of the electorate; whether popularly
>> elected
>> > > or not, I have greats doubts that one can ever be confined & judged
>> as truly
>> > > reflecting the wishes of the constituency.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Indeed at the onset, a few of us thought the liaison role properly
>> > > configured may likely have a more sustainable interest for the
>> At-Large than
>> > > the single voting director. So while we are largely agreed, I have
>> one
>> > > quibble with your characterisation of the role of the NomCom; that
>> set of
>> > > criteria utilised for selection of directors.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > In your estimation of this new role for the Board, I would hope that
>> space
>> > > for more guidance is calculated so there is a balance in criteria
>> between
>> > > persons having experience on 'large corporate boards' than those
>> without.
>> > > And I say this in context of likely interpretation of the meaning of
>> > > 'large'. For depending on who defines 'large', a whole set of likely
>> > > participants from my side of the world will enter the process already
>> > > disadvantaged. And that does not augur well for participation at
>> that level
>> > > for those of us at the edge of empire.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > >
>> > > -Carlton
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ==============================
>> > > Carlton A Samuels
>> > > Mobile: 876-818-1799
>> > > Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround
>> > > =============================
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Roberto Gaetano
>> > > <roberto_gaetano(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I have been one of the champions of the ALAC representation to the
>> Board
>> > > with voting Directors, on par with the other supporting organizations.
>> > > So I believe that I cannot be suspected of anti-ALAC-ism if I now,
>> years
>> > > later, argue that to fight for more Directors on the Board is a
>> battle of
>> > > the past, that has little meaning looking at the evolution of the
>> > > organizazion and at a full realization of the multi-stakeholder model.
>> > > The multi-stakeholder model is not a parliamentarian model where the
>> > > stakeholder will get representation based on their relative
>> "strength". The
>> > > parliamentarian scheme is OK for an organization in its infancy,
>> where the
>> > > constitution has to be drafted. In a mature organization, with basic
>> laws
>> > > and behaviours already defined, the appointment of representatives by
>> > > constituencies inevitably brings in the Board the petty interests of
>> the
>> > > different constituencies instead of having a sort of council of the
>> elders
>> > > that abstracts from the contingent interests looking for the common
>> good.
>> > > This has been the guideline that was attempted with the GNSO Review,
>> albeit
>> > > with only partial, although significant, results.
>> > > It is time to propose a different model for the Board as well, to get
>> rid as
>> > > much as possible of the system by which we have representative of
>> "parties"
>> > > that often have conflicting interests.
>> > > I believe that we should go towards reducing the SO-appointed
>> Directors, and
>> > > have instead a larger share, possibly a super-majority, appointed by
>> NomCom.
>> > > The NomCom should also get a precise description of the skill set
>> that is
>> > > missing for that particular year, so that they can choose the names
>> > > accordingly.
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > Roberto
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> -----Messaggio originale-----
>> > >> Da: euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:
>> euro-discuss-
>> > >> bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di Sivasubramanian M
>> > >> Inviato: domenica 30 marzo 2014 18:27
>> > >> A: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
>> > >> Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; lac-discuss-es@atlarge-
>> > >> lists.icann.org; euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org;
>> > > afri-discuss@atlarge-
>> > >> lists.icann.org; At-Large Announcements; APRALO; At-Large
>> Worldwide; na-
>> > >> discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> > >> Oggetto: Re: [EURO-Discuss] [APAC-Discuss] [At-Large] VOTE RESULTS:
>> 2014
>> > >
>> > >> At-Large Board Director (Seat #15) Selection Process
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >> Dear Wolfgang,
>> > >>
>> > >> The original idea of nine Voting Directors was possibly conceived to
>> > > ensure an
>> > >> independent, user driven organization. NomCom was a good idea, but
>> in the
>> > >> process At-Large lost the seats in the Board, in exchange for shared
>> > >> responsibility in the selection process.
>> > >>
>> > >> A better representation for At-Large, as originally envisaged, would
>> > > positively
>> > >> demonstrate that ICANN Governance is emphatically based on the multi-
>> > >> stakeholder model of Governance.
>> > >>
>> > >> In the recent At-Large elections, we have had an effective incumbent
>> and
>> > >> four other qualified candidates, which goes on to prove that
>> At-Large has
>> > >> matured, has people sufficiently qualified for Board positions. As
>> you
>> > > have
>> > >> mentioned, we have the GNSO user communities with qualified people,
>> > >> which increases the the number of available qualified candidates even
>> > > more.
>> > >> In this context, if we revisit the discussions on more Board seats
>> which
>> > > would
>> > >> reaffirm ICANN's faith in the multi-stakeholder model. Other
>> Stakeholders
>> > >> might welcome such a discussion to improve user participation in the
>> > > Board,
>> > >> because it would essentially improve Trust in the ICANN process.
>> > >>
>> > >> More candidates from At-Large to Board positions could be appointed
>> by two
>> > >> different processes:
>> > >>
>> > >> 1) By the existing process whereby the AC selects / elects a
>> candidate
>> > > and
>> > >> the chosen person is appointed. This introduces an election which
>> could
>> > >> sometimes create differences, though such differences do not exist
>> within
>> > >> this AC at the moment.
>> > >>
>> > >> 2) By a process completely free of the Internal elections, by an
>> internal
>> > >> NomCom. (initial thoughts, there are various ways of designing such a
>> > >> process, there are advantages and disadvantages to be considered)
>> > >>
>> > >> Thank you.
>> > >>
>> > >> Sivasubramanian M
>> > >> India
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:32 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <
>> > >> wolfgang.kleinwaechter(a)medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Hi,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I also want to join the many thanks to Sebastian (great job), to
>> > >>> Rinalia (great challenge) and Roberto and Tijani (well done).
>> Nothing
>> > >>> more to add what Veronica has said so nicely and well structured.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I this context: DonŽt forget the History. In the present NTIA
>> > >>> transition discussion a lot of "orginal ideas" from 1998 are
>> > >>> remembered. One orginal idea was to give the At Large Membership
>> nine
>> > >>> voting seats. Article V, Section 4 of the Orginal Bylaws (November
>> 6,
>> > >>> 1998) said in para. iv: "Nine
>> > >>> (9) At Large Directors, selected pursuant to a process to be
>> > >>> established by a majority vote of all the At Large Board members of
>> the
>> > >> Initial Board".
>> > >>> http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws/bylaws-06nov98-
>> > >> en.htm#
>> > >>> V
>> > >>>
>> > >>> We know the history. Five voting directors were elected in 2000 for
>> > >>> two years. In November 2001 the At Large Membership Committee,
>> > >> chaired
>> > >>> by Carl Bildt, recommended the establishment of an At Large
>> Supporting
>> > >>> Organisation
>> > >>> (ALSO) with the right to send six voting directors to the board.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> http://archive.icann.org/en/committees/at-large/final-report-05nov01.h
>> > >>> tm#_toc523422641
>> > >>>
>> > >>> In 2002, as part of the general ICANN reform process the ideas of an
>> > >>> At Large elections and the establishment of an ALSO with six
>> regional
>> > >>> councils were abolished and were substituted by an "At Large
>> Advisory
>> > >> Committee"
>> > >>> (ALAC) with five RALOs, a certification process for ALSs and the
>> > >>> establishment of a NomCon which now sends eight directors to the
>> > >>> board. The NomCom got five voting At Large Members. The chair of
>> ALAC
>> > >>> was invited to serve as a non-votong liaison in the Board (similar
>> to
>> > >>> the chair of the GAC).
>> > >>>
>> > >>> In the preparation for ATLAS I in Mexico in 2008 we were calling for
>> > >>> two voting ALAC Board members. We got one. Now ATLAS II is at the
>> > >>> horizon. We need a strong message from ATLAS II that the
>> > >>> multistakeholder model - which is now under tough discussion and has
>> > >>> to face its "moment of truth" - will work only, if you have a strong
>> > >>> civil society role in policy development and decision making.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Here we have to invest more how to do this and to go out of our
>> silos
>> > >>> both within the broader CS community (in particular with NCUC and
>> > >>> NPOC) as well as in cross constituency communication, coordination
>> and
>> > >> collaboration with
>> > >>> private sector, technical community and governments. A big
>> challenge.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Wolfgang
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> wolfgang
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> ________________________________
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Von: euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org im Auftrag von
>> > >>> Veronica Cretu
>> > >>> Gesendet: Sa 29.03.2014 15:55
>> > >>> An: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
>> > >>> Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org;
>> > >>> lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org;
>> > >>> euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org;
>> > >>> afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org;
>> > >>> ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org;
>> > >>> apac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; At-Large Worldwide;
>> > >>> na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> > >>> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] [At-Large] VOTE RESULTS: 2014 At-Large
>> > >>> Board Director (Seat #15) Selection Process
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Dear colleagues, dear Olivier - thanks for this message and to echo
>> > >>> and build up on it, I would also like to:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> - Thank *Sebastian* for the work done in his capacity as a member of
>> > >>> the Board and wish him success in the upcoming new roles and
>> > >>> initiatives. We all continue building on our previous experiences,
>> so
>> > >>> this process should be a continuous exercise and include those who
>> can
>> > >>> learn from us - so, I am sure Sebastian will find good ways to share
>> > >>> the wealth of expertise gained in his role as a Board member and
>> > >>> continue serve the community in the best possible ways.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> - Congratulate *Rinalia* for being elected to the Board and wish her
>> > >>> much luck in this interesting, yet, challenging new role. These are
>> > >>> important times for ICANN which will require several key
>> competences,
>> > >>> and awareness of geo-political realities in different parts of the
>> > >>> world. I trust Rinalia will be able to deliver on the expectations
>> on
>> > > the
>> > >> community-at-large.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> - Thank *Roberto* for the wonderful leadership of the BCEC - it has
>> > >>> been for me, personally, a great experience. Like in any experience
>> > >>> there are always things to learn from and improve based on the input
>> > > from
>> > >> members.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On this note, hope everyone attending ICANN 49 managed to return
>> home
>> > >>> safe & sound, otherwise, wishing you safe travels back home!
>> > >>>
>> > >>> With very best,
>> > >>> Veronica
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
>> > >>> <ocl(a)gih.com
>> > >>>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Dear All,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I wanted to extend my congratulations to Rinalia Abdul Rahim in
>> what
>> > >>>> was a very balanced election that required many rounds to
>> > >>>> differentiate the candidates.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Rinalia has been selected by our community to sit on the Board at a
>> > >>>> moment that is not only crucial for At-Large but also crucial for
>> > >>>> ICANN as a whole. She will take her seat at the 2014 ICANN Annual
>> > >>>> General Meeting - the last meeting of the year - which will take
>> > >>>> place in Los Angeles.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Thanks to all of the candidates who have run for the position. It
>> is
>> > >>>> through a wide candidate list that we can assure a wider choice of
>> > >>>> options for the future of our community.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Thanks to Roberto Gaetano and the Board Candidate Evaluation
>> > >> Committee.
>> > >>>> Their work has been crucial in providing a first class short-list
>> of
>> > >>>> candidates.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Thanks to Tijani Ben Jemaa and the Board Member Selection Process
>> > >>>> Committee for their stewardship of a process that has been
>> > >>>> challenging due to the multiple instances of Ties.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> The work of these Committees is not over. They will analyse lessons
>> > >>>> learnt and work together to provide the ALAC with an updated set of
>> > >>>> recommendations to improve the selection process next time around.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Finally, I would like to remind you that until the 2014 ICANN AGM,
>> > >>>> the Board Member selected by At-Large is Sébastien Bachollet and
>> > >>>> would like to reaffirm the full support of our community in the
>> > >>>> challenging months ahead of us. We are well aware that he is not on
>> > >>>> the Board to "represent us" but as a candidate from our community
>> > >>>> selected to the Board by our community, he has proven himself to
>> > >>>> share his experience of Internet End Users with his Board
>> Colleagues
>> > >>>> and we are grateful of his continued involvement in all matters of
>> > > ICANN.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Kindest regards,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
>> > >>>> ALAC Chair
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On 26/03/2014 15:06, ICANN At-Large Staff wrote:
>> > >>>>> Dear All,
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Tijani Ben Jemaa, Chair of the Board Member Selection Process
>> > >>>>> Committee
>> > >>>> (BMSPC) 2014, has asked that an announcement on the final vote
>> > >>>> results of the Board Director (Seat #15) selected by the
>> > >>>> ALAC/At-Large for 2015-2017 (to take their seat at the 2014 AGM) be
>> > >> published.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> This is to inform you that the 2014 At-Large Board Director (Seat
>> > >>>>> #15)
>> > >>>> Selection Process was completed on 25-March-2014.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Below is the list of candidates (listed in alphabetical order of
>> > >>>>> the
>> > >>>> family name) who ran for the position:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> * Rinalia Abdul Rahim
>> > >>>>> * Sébastien Bachollet
>> > >>>>> * Alan Greenberg
>> > >>>>> * Evan Leibovitch
>> > >>>>> * Jean-Jacques Subrenat
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> After the FIRST ROUND VOTE and the SECOND ROUND's first vote, tie
>> > >>>> breaking vote, and second (final) vote, the candidate who is
>> > >>>> selected as the Board Director (Seat #15) by ALAC/At-Large for
>> > >>>> 2015-2017 is: Rinalia Abdul Rahim.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> You may review the results, as well as the detailed information
>> > >>>>> about
>> > >>>> the selection procedure, under:
>> https://community.icann.org/x/WinRAg.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber,
>> > >>>>> Nathalie
>> > >>>> Peregrine and Terri Agnew
>> > >>>>> ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
>> > >>>>> E-mail: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org%
>> > >>> 3cmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org
>> > > <mailto:3cmailto%3Astaff@atlarge.icann.org> >
>> > >>>> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org
>> > >>>>
>> > >>> <applewebdata://68497759-1B04-4F9B-84B7-
>> > >> B9445B8F305F/Regards,%20Heidi%
>> > >>>
>> > >>
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>> > >>> isella%20Gruber,%
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >> 20Nathalie%20Peregrine%20and%20Julia%20Charvolen%20ICANN%20Policy
>> > >> %20St
>> > >>> aff%20in%20support%20of%20ALACmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org
>> > > <mailto:
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>> > > rg>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
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>> > >>> --
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>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> *President, Open Government Institute**Republic of Moldova
>> > >>> - http://opengov.si.md/ <http://opengov.si.md/>*
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>> > >>>
>> > >>> *http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/1549
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>> > >>>
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VOTE RESULTS: 2014 At-Large Board Director (Seat #15) Selection Process
by ICANN At-Large Staff April 5, 2014
by ICANN At-Large Staff April 5, 2014
April 5, 2014
Dear All,
Tijani Ben Jemaa, Chair of the Board Member Selection Process Committee (BMSPC) 2014, has asked that an announcement on the final vote results of the Board Director (Seat #15) selected by the ALAC/At-Large for 2015-2017 (to take their seat at the 2014 AGM) be published.
This is to inform you that the 2014 At-Large Board Director (Seat #15) Selection Process was completed on 25-March-2014.
Below is the list of candidates (listed in alphabetical order of the family name) who ran for the position:
* Rinalia Abdul Rahim
* Sébastien Bachollet
* Alan Greenberg
* Evan Leibovitch
* Jean-Jacques Subrenat
After the FIRST ROUND VOTE and the SECOND ROUND's first vote, tie breaking vote, and second (final) vote, the candidate who is selected as the Board Director (Seat #15) by ALAC/At-Large for 2015-2017 is: Rinalia Abdul Rahim.
You may review the results, as well as the detailed information about the selection procedure, under: https://community.icann.org/x/WinRAg.
Regards,
Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Terri Agnew
ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
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