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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia
by cveraq＠gmail.com May 12, 2014

May 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia From: cveraq(a)gmail.com Excellent Alberto! Alejandro As always the point. Regards Carlos Vera Quintana 0988141143 Follow me @ cveraq > El 12/05/2014, a las 11:45, "Alberto Soto" <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> escribió: > > Alejandro, entiendo como opinable la introducción a sistemas de Información. Pero sucede que en la encuesta que hizo un grupo nuestro, había gente de nuestras ALSs que desconocía detalles iniciales. Es por ello que pedagógicamente lo tomé como un curso con la necesidad de nivelación, de conocimiento progresivo. Caso contrario, no entenderán luego la necesidad de la generación de políticas en ciertos aspecto. > > Para el resto de las observaciones, los tomo en cuenta y haré las correcciones correspondientes. > > Solo recuerda que quise conformar un grupo de trabajo para hacer estas presentaciones, y hubo un solo postulante que tenía mucho trabajo, así que debí hacerlo solo, en tiempo record… > > Saludos cordiales y gracias > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > De: Alejandro Pisanty [mailto:apisanty@gmail.com] > Enviado el: lunes, 12 de mayo de 2014 01:21 p.m. > Para: Alberto Soto > CC: LACRALO Español > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Haiti y Republica Dominicana. Bolivia > > > > Alberto, > > > > gracias por compartir este material de manera preliminar. > > > > Pregunta: ¿en este "tour" también son necesarias las láminas de introducción a sistemas de información? > > > > Más allá de ello también comento que en otras organizaciones estamos evitando definir Internet como un sistema de información, incluso como "un sistema", ya que eso produce algunas reacciones reflejas no deseables - como acotar el sistema, estructurarlo, poseerlo y gobernarlo. Hay algo de discusión semántica aquí, por supuesto, desde qué se quiere decir por "sistema". > > > > Segunda observación, recientemente (por ejemplo al revisar por tercera o cuarta vez el libro de Laura de Nardis sobre "la guerra por la gobernanza de Internet") me está resultando ruidoso el término "jerárquico" en la descripción del DNS las direcciones IP, y la administración de unos y otros. Si bien ambos sistemas están bien descritos como "jerárquicos" en cuanto a sus estructuras, lo mismo no es estrictamente cierto para su gobernanza. Hablar de "gobernanza jerárquica" a no-iniciados produce también reflejos adversos; crea la imagen de un sistema de mando, de arriba hacia abajo, en el que cada parte recibe órdenes de un jefe. > > > > Lo que en realidad se hace, sobre todo en el DNS, es delegar la autoridad con plena independencia. Esto da lugar al principio de subsidiaridad, a la importancia de la orilla, y al carácter ¡oh sorpresa! no jerárquico, horizontal, de Internet. > > > > Tercero: al describir la organización del "At Large" me parece imprescindible exponer desde muy al principio el concepto de "Web of Trust" en el que se basa todo el sistema. Este concepto también está en la base del proceso de admisión de nuevas organizaciones o ALS. > > > > Al exponer el sistema a organizaciones invitadas a incorporarse, es importante explicarles por qué van a estar sometidas a inspección y por parte de quién. Y es importante que sean conocidas por otras organizaciones, ALS reconocidas, que las apoyen con base en información cercana y confianza sobre su cumplimiento de los requisitos. > > > > Finalmente, sobre este último punto: avísales que más vale que tengan la piel muy dura. > > > > Saludos cordiales a todos/as > > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > 2014-05-12 10:30 GMT-05:00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> >: > > Estimados, ayer finalmente recibimos la aprobación de ambos proyectos, que se llevarán a cabo entre el 03 y 07 Junio 2014. Habíamos pedido una excepción para que Sebastien Bacholet pudiera viajar, pero no nos la otorgaron. Por esta razón en su reemplazo y por sugerencia del grupo de trabajo, viajaré yo en mi carácter de Presidente de LACRALO, y se mantiene a Sylvia Herlein Laite. > > En Haití contaremos con el soporte de Jean Marie Altema (Idiomas Francés nativo, inglés y español), fellowship de ICANN. Este contacto nos lo dio oportunamente Fátima Cambronero, a quien agradezco. > > Les adjunto la presentación que con su pertinente modificación, será utilizada en ambos lugares. En este momento se está traduciendo al francés, y ya contamos con el ejemplar en inglés. > > > > Como verán, esta presentación es la realizada en Bolivia. Si bien hubo participación, no fue la deseada. El evento era con cargo, no accesible a toda organización, ni tampoco a público en general. Tenía simultáneamente dentro de la misma Universidad, otro tema que evidentemente era más importante para el público convocado al Congreso. Por esta experiencia quizás si tengo tiempo, haré una aclaración sobre el programa CROPP. Creo que un evento de este tipo, no debe estar contenido entro en otro evento mayor, con temáticas varias y conferencias simultáneas, pierde efectividad. De todos modos, se acercaron tres personas a preguntar sobre las posibilidades de ciertas organizaciones. Estoy esperando que se contacten vía mail, pero dos casi seguro no certificarían. > > > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > > > > De: Dev Anand Teelucksingh [mailto:devtee@gmail.com <mailto:devtee@gmail.com> ] > Enviado el: domingo, 11 de mayo de 2014 08:08 a.m. > Para: Alberto Soto; Humberto Carrasco > CC: sylvia@prontocl; Silvia Vivanco; At-Large Staff; Juan Manuel Rojas > Asunto: Re: RV: seguimiento taller ICANN > > > > Dear Alberto, > > > > As a FYI, Rodrigo gave his approval on Thursday evening and I filed the proposal on the ICANN wiki on Friday. > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Pro… > > https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Pro… > > > > > > Also, with these proposals now using 4 travel slots out of LACRALO's 5 travel slots, instead of 2 as was originally proposed by the end of the conference calls, > > the third proposal with 2 travellers to the ICT event in Suriname will have to be adjusted to have only 1 traveler. > > > > Dev Anand > > > > > > > > > > 2014-05-07 11:23 GMT-04:00 Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com <mailto:devtee@gmail.com> <mailto:devtee@gmail.com <mailto:devtee@gmail.com> > >: > > Dear Alberto, > > > > There haven't been any concerns from CROPP RT so I've sent to Rodrigo and Albert for approval. Once that is obtained, we'll file the proposal on ICANN's wiki. > > > > However, to be very, very clear, Alberto, I'm not responsible for the delay in this. > > Your initial proposal lacked clarity and detail from the beginning and required numerous emails and eventually conference calls to sort out the information needed for the trip proposals after they were not forthcoming. > > > Then there were many various changes to the travellers themselves that YOU requested, including different combinations of travellers travelling to Haiti and the Dominican Republic proposed by you. > > > > This proposal was formally submitted twice to the CROPP RT and withdrawn because of changes YOU requested. > > > > I've always been diligent in working with you to see LACRALO succeed in any outreach efforts. Please remember that. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Dev Anand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-05-07 8:32 GMT-04:00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> > >: > > > > FYI > > Dev, over two months ago I presented the project as it is today, and with this, if you really concrete, are endangering the goals. > > We can confirm asap? > > thanks > > Alberto > > > > De: Amparo Arango [mailto:amparo.arango@gmail.com <mailto:amparo.arango@gmail.com> <mailto:amparo.arango@gmail.com <mailto:amparo.arango@gmail.com> > ] > Enviado el: miércoles, 07 de mayo de 2014 08:39 a.m. > Para: Yacine Khelladi; Alberto Soto > Asunto: seguimiento taller ICANN > > > > Estimados: > > > > ya estamos a mayo 7 y todavía no se tiene la fecha para el taller de ICANN. Pero ademas tampoco se han hecho los contactos formales con que universidad se haría este taller. > > > > Yo sugerí tres opciones: PUCMM, APEC INTEC. Durante NETmundial se hablo informalmente con Clara Collado de PUCMM, ella en principio quedo interesada pero se le dijo que se le enviaría una comunicación con todos los detalles. > > > > No se si se pueda hacer un taller extra para el Grupo de Governanza en INDOTEL...Si es así hay que organizarlo desde ahora. > > > > Yacine, tienes que decidir con quien se haría y si es Clara Colado hay que enviarle ya la petición formal. > > > > También debes informarle al grupo de ISOC para que ellos sean también convocantes... > > > > Hay que preparar la invitación y hablar con las demás universidades.. > > > > En fin estamos ya en el limite para hacer todo lo que hay que ¡hacer. Yo salgo de viaje la primera semana de junio y además este mes tengo una agenda complicada. > > > > Por tanto les recuerdo acelerar este proceso pues esta todo por hacer. > > > > Amparo > > > > > > -- > > Amparo Arango Echeverri > > Cel: 809-696-7008 <tel:809-696-7008> <tel:809-696-7008 <tel:809-696-7008> > > skype: arangoe > Twitter: aarango > > <https://www.facebook.com/amparo.arango> https://www.facebook.com/arangoecheverri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > -- > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > Facultad de Química UNAM > Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 > Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/e481835b52.html --]]

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by cveraq＠gmail.com May 12, 2014

May 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? = Utf-8 q RECORDATORIO_ / _at-Large_Sesi = C3 = utf-8 B3n_in == q = formative = 3A_ 3BLa_globalizaci 26quot = C3 = B3n_de_la_ICANN_y_su_t == = utf-8???? q? ransparencia_y_responsabilidad_Procesos = 26quot 3B =? = From: cveraq(a)gmail.com Please call to 593988141143 espaol Carlos Vera Quintana 0988141143 Sgueme @ cveraq > El 11/05/2014, a las 22:12, Johnny Laureano <jlaureano(a)aui.pe> escribió: > > ICANN, [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/31dbd7796d.html --]]

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by asoto＠ibero-americano.org May 12, 2014

May 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject:? = Utf-8 q = C3 = B3n Grupo_de_trabajo_Transici =? From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Dear, our region needs to settle priority this workgroup. Since there was a candidate when I said we were working on this. I hope your comments and nominations. Best Regards Alberto Soto Transition Working Group The working group aims, from the statement LACRALO on the transition of the role of custody functions IANA: Maintain continuous updating of the information that is generated in various forums that touch this subject, modifying such statement if necessary. The specific objectives are to be determined by the same group. The goal is to have resilience of our region to issue a statement in due course without delay seeking additional information. The sources are the various forums below. ICANN also held public discussions at their meetings. This list is not exhaustive. - RIPE 68 12-16 MAY 2014 - AFRINIC 25 MAY-06 JUN 2014 - CENTR iii JAMBOREE - Paris 01-04 JUN 2014 - ICANN 50 JUN 2014 LONDON 22-26 - TORONTO IETF90 20-25 JUN 2014 - APNIC 38 BRISBANE 9-19 Sep 2014 - APTLD BRISANE Sep 2014 - CENTR GA 52 BRUSSELS 1 to 3 October 2014 - ARIN Baltimore 09-10 OCT 34 2014 - ICANN 51 LOS ANGELES 12 to 16 October 2014 - MEXICO LANIC 22 October 28, 2014 - RIPE 69 LONDON November 3 to 7, 2014 - LACTLD ARUBA 6 to 7 November 2014 - IETF 91 HONOLULU 9 to 14 November 2014 - MAURITANIA AFRINIC 21 22 to 28 November 2014 - APNIC 39 FUKUOKA February 24 - 06 Mar 2014 - DALLAS IETF 92 Mar 2015 - CENTR GA 55 Mar 2015 - APTLD FOKUOKA Mar 2015 - ICANN 52 Mar 2015 Scope of the working group: While this process will be provided in the ICANN community, we must take into account the generation of policies bottom up, which is why he should have dumped the views and opinions of our ALS. Form involvement of ALS: Entries will be received in the appropriate wiki. Having access problems will be solved in due course. To encourage participation, requested that those add comments, make known to the mailing list. It is also requested that such comments be specific: If suggest modifying a paragraph, for example, it is sent directly modifying as suggested. Likewise, if the addition of a paragraph is suggested. Timeline of the working group: It starts from the moment of its creation and ends with the completion of the transition. The same group will form the specific schedule _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/eeb547c314.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org May 12, 2014

May 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Alejandro, I understand how debatable the introduction to information systems. But it happens that in the survey that makes the our group, there were people who did not know our ALS initial details. That is why I took it as a pedagogical course with the need for leveling, progressive knowledge. If not, then do not understand the need for generating policies in certain aspect. For the rest of the observations, and will take into account the corrections. Just remember that I wanted to form a working group to make these submissions, and there was only one applicant who had a lot of work, so I had to do it alone, in record time ... Best regards and thanks Alberto Soto From: Alejandro Pisanty [mailto: apisanty(a)gmail.com] Posted on: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:21 pm To: Alberto Soto CC: LACRALO Spanish Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia Alberto, Thanks for sharing this item preliminarily. Question: Is this "tour" blades are also necessary introduction to information systems? Beyond that also commented that other organizations we are avoiding defining the Internet as an information system, even as a "system" because it produces some undesirable reflex reactions - as refine the system, structure it, own it and rule it. There is some semantic argument here, of course, since what is meant by "system". Second observation recently (eg by reviewing for the third or fourth book Laura de Nardis on "war for Internet governance") is turning me loud the term "hierarchical" in the description of the DNS IP addresses, and administration of both. While both systems are well described as "hierarchical" in their structures, the same is not strictly true to its governance. Speaking of "hierarchical governance" to uninitiated also produces adverse reflexes; created image of a control system, from top to bottom, in which each party receives orders from a boss. What really is, especially in the DNS, is to delegate authority completely independent. This leads to the principle of subsidiarity, the importance of the bank, and character surprise! non-hierarchical, horizontal, internet. Third, to describe the organization of the "At Large" seems essential from the very beginning to exhibit the concept of "Web of Trust" in which the entire system is based.This concept is also the basis of the admission process for new organizations or ALS. By exposing the system to organizations invited to join, it is important to explain why they will be subject to inspection and by whom. And it is important to be known by other organizations, ALS recognized that close support based on information and confidence on its compliance with the requirements. Finally, on this last point: let them know that it is better to have tough skin. Best regards to all / as Alejandro Pisanty 5/12/2014 10:30 GMT-05: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> >: Dear, yesterday finally received the approval of both projects, which will be held between 03 and June 7, 2014. We had requested an exception to Sebastien Bacholet could travel, but were not awarded.For this reason his replacement and suggestions of the working group, I will travel in my capacity as President of LACRALO, and held at Sylvia Herlein Laite. Haiti will have the support of Jean Marie Altema (Native Languages \u200b\u200bFrench, English and Spanish), ICANN fellowship. This contact gave it timely Cambronero Fatima, whom I thank. I attached the presentation that your modifications thereto, will be used in both places. Currently being translated into French, and we already have the copy in English. You see, this presentation is made in Bolivia. While there was involvement was not desired. The event was under, not accessible to the entire organization, or to the general public. He simultaneously within the same university, another issue that was obviously more important for Congress convened public. For this experience maybe if I have time, I'll CROPP clarification on the program.I think an event like this, should not be content delivery in another major event, with several simultaneous thematic conferences, loses effectiveness. Anyway, three people came to ask about the possibility of certain organizations. I'm hoping that they contact via mail, but two almost certainly not certify. Best Regards Alberto Soto From: Dev Anand Teelucksingh [mailto: devtee(a)gmail.com <mailto:devtee@gmail.com> ] Posted on: Sunday, May 11, 2014 8:08 a.m. To: Alberto Soto; Humberto Carrasco CC: sylvia @ prontocl; Silvia Vivanco; At-Large Staff; Juan Manuel Rojas Subject: Re: RV: ICANN monitoring workshop Dear Alberto, As a FYI, Rodrigo gave his approval on Thursday evening and I filed the proposal on the wiki ICANN on Friday. https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Pro… https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Pro… Also, With These Proposals now using slots 4 travel out of travel LACRALO's 5 slots, instead of 2 as was originally Proposed by the end of the conference calls, the third proposal with 2 Travelers to the ICT event in Suriname will Have To Be To Have adjusted only 1 traveler. Dev Anand 7/5/2014 11:23 GMT-04: 00 Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com <mailto:devtee@gmail.com><mailto:devtee@gmail.com <mailto:devtee@gmail.com> >>: Dear Alberto, There have not been any CROPP Concerns from RT so I've sent to Rodrigo and Albert for approval. Once Obtained That is, we'll file the proposal on ICANN's wiki. However, to be very, very clear, Alberto, I'm not responsible for the delay in This. Your initial proposal Lacked clarity and detail from the beginning and required Eventually multitude numerous emails and conference calls to sort out the information needed for the trip Proposals after They Were not forthcoming. Then there were many changes to the various Travelers Themselves That You requested, including different combinations of Travelers traveling to Haiti and the Dominican Republic Proposed by you. This proposal was formally submitted to the CROPP RT twice and withdrawn YOU Because of changes requested. I've always been diligent in working with you to see LACRALO succeed in any outreach efforts. Please remember that. Kind Regards, Dev Anand 07.05.2014 8:32 GMT-04: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org><mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> >>: FYI Dev, over two months ago I presented the project as it is today, and WITH THIS, if you really concrete, are endangering the goals. We can confirm asap? thanks Alberto From: Amparo Arango [mailto: amparo.arango @ gmail.com <mailto:amparo.arango@gmail.com><mailto:amparo.arango@gmail.com <mailto:amparo.arango@gmail.com> >] Posted on: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 8:39 a.m. To: Yacine Khelladi; Alberto Soto Subject: ICANN monitoring workshop Estimates: we're to May 7 and we do not yet have a date for the workshop ICANN. But also not been made formal contact with the university that this workshop would. I suggested three options: PUCMM, APEC INTEC. During NETmundial will speak informally with Clara Hill of PUCMM, she'll stay interested at first but he said he would send a communication to all the details. Not if you can make an extra workshop on Governance Group lNDOTEL ... If so you have to organize it now. Yacine, you have to decide who would and if there already Clara Colado give formal request. You should also inform the group of ISOC so that they are also conveners ... You have to prepare the invitation and talk with other universities .. Finally we are at the limit to do everything we need to do. I go on a trip the first week of June and this month also have a complicated agenda. So I remember them accelerate this process because this all done. Protection - Amparo Arango Echeverri Cel: 809-696-7008 <tel:809-696-7008><tel:809-696-7008 <tel:809-696-7008> > skype: arangoe Twitter: I aarango < https://www.facebook.com/amparo.arango> https://www.facebook.com/arangoecheverri _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org - --------------------------- Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM Faculty of Chemistry AvUniversity 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/fc7d99737e.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia
by amedinagomez＠gmail.com May 12, 2014

May 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia From: amedinagomez(a)gmail.com Alberto thank you very much for reporting on these activities. I wish you the best in these tasks. I identify with that expressed by Alejandro and I find the way to achieve the objectives The 12 May 2014 11:21, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Alberto, > > gracias por compartir este material de manera preliminar. > > Pregunta: ¿en este "tour" también son necesarias las láminas de > introducción a sistemas de información? > > Más allá de ello también comento que en otras organizaciones estamos > evitando definir Internet como un sistema de información, incluso como "un > sistema", ya que eso produce algunas reacciones reflejas no deseables - > como acotar el sistema, estructurarlo, poseerlo y gobernarlo. Hay algo de > discusión semántica aquí, por supuesto, desde qué se quiere decir por > "sistema". > > Segunda observación, recientemente (por ejemplo al revisar por tercera o > cuarta vez el libro de Laura de Nardis sobre "la guerra por la gobernanza > de Internet") me está resultando ruidoso el término "jerárquico" en la > descripción del DNS las direcciones IP, y la administración de unos y > otros. Si bien ambos sistemas están bien descritos como "jerárquicos" en > cuanto a sus estructuras, lo mismo no es estrictamente cierto para su > gobernanza. Hablar de "gobernanza jerárquica" a no-iniciados produce > también reflejos adversos; crea la imagen de un sistema de mando, de arriba > hacia abajo, en el que cada parte recibe órdenes de un jefe. > > Lo que en realidad se hace, sobre todo en el DNS, es delegar la autoridad > con plena independencia. Esto da lugar al principio de subsidiaridad, a la > importancia de la orilla, y al carácter ¡oh sorpresa! no jerárquico, > horizontal, de Internet. > > Tercero: al describir la organización del "At Large" me parece > imprescindible exponer desde muy al principio el concepto de "Web of Trust" > en el que se basa todo el sistema. Este concepto también está en la base > del proceso de admisión de nuevas organizaciones o ALS. > > Al exponer el sistema a organizaciones invitadas a incorporarse, es > importante explicarles por qué van a estar sometidas a inspección y por > parte de quién. Y es importante que sean conocidas por otras > organizaciones, ALS reconocidas, que las apoyen con base en información > cercana y confianza sobre su cumplimiento de los requisitos. > > Finalmente, sobre este último punto: avísales que más vale que tengan la > piel muy dura. > > Saludos cordiales a todos/as > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > 2014-05-12 10:30 GMT-05:00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org>: > > > Estimados, ayer finalmente recibimos la aprobación de ambos proyectos, > que > > se llevarán a cabo entre el 03 y 07 Junio 2014. Habíamos pedido una > > excepción para que Sebastien Bacholet pudiera viajar, pero no nos la > > otorgaron. Por esta razón en su reemplazo y por sugerencia del grupo de > > trabajo, viajaré yo en mi carácter de Presidente de LACRALO, y se > mantiene > > a Sylvia Herlein Laite. > > > > En Haití contaremos con el soporte de Jean Marie Altema (Idiomas Francés > > nativo, inglés y español), fellowship de ICANN. Este contacto nos lo dio > > oportunamente Fátima Cambronero, a quien agradezco. > > > > Les adjunto la presentación que con su pertinente modificación, será > > utilizada en ambos lugares. En este momento se está traduciendo al > francés, > > y ya contamos con el ejemplar en inglés. > > > > > > > > Como verán, esta presentación es la realizada en Bolivia. Si bien hubo > > participación, no fue la deseada. El evento era con cargo, no accesible a > > toda organización, ni tampoco a público en general. Tenía simultáneamente > > dentro de la misma Universidad, otro tema que evidentemente era más > > importante para el público convocado al Congreso. Por esta experiencia > > quizás si tengo tiempo, haré una aclaración sobre el programa CROPP. Creo > > que un evento de este tipo, no debe estar contenido entro en otro evento > > mayor, con temáticas varias y conferencias simultáneas, pierde > efectividad. > > De todos modos, se acercaron tres personas a preguntar sobre las > > posibilidades de ciertas organizaciones. Estoy esperando que se contacten > > vía mail, pero dos casi seguro no certificarían. > > > > > > > > Saludos cordiales > > > > > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > De: Dev Anand Teelucksingh [mailto:devtee@gmail.com] > > Enviado el: domingo, 11 de mayo de 2014 08:08 a.m. > > Para: Alberto Soto; Humberto Carrasco > > CC: sylvia@prontocl; Silvia Vivanco; At-Large Staff; Juan Manuel Rojas > > Asunto: Re: RV: seguimiento taller ICANN > > > > > > > > Dear Alberto, > > > > > > > > As a FYI, Rodrigo gave his approval on Thursday evening and I filed the > > proposal on the ICANN wiki on Friday. > > > > > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Pro… > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Pro… > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, with these proposals now using 4 travel slots out of LACRALO's 5 > > travel slots, instead of 2 as was originally proposed by the end of the > > conference calls, > > > > the third proposal with 2 travellers to the ICT event in Suriname will > > have to be adjusted to have only 1 traveler. > > > > > > > > Dev Anand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-05-07 11:23 GMT-04:00 Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com > <mailto: > > devtee(a)gmail.com> >: > > > > Dear Alberto, > > > > > > > > There haven't been any concerns from CROPP RT so I've sent to Rodrigo and > > Albert for approval. Once that is obtained, we'll file the proposal on > > ICANN's wiki. > > > > > > > > However, to be very, very clear, Alberto, I'm not responsible for the > > delay in this. > > > > Your initial proposal lacked clarity and detail from the beginning and > > required numerous emails and eventually conference calls to sort out the > > information needed for the trip proposals after they were not > forthcoming. > > > > > > Then there were many various changes to the travellers themselves that > YOU > > requested, including different combinations of travellers travelling to > > Haiti and the Dominican Republic proposed by you. > > > > > > > > This proposal was formally submitted twice to the CROPP RT and withdrawn > > because of changes YOU requested. > > > > > > > > I've always been diligent in working with you to see LACRALO succeed in > > any outreach efforts. Please remember that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > Dev Anand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-05-07 8:32 GMT-04:00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org<mailto: > > asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> >: > > > > > > > > FYI > > > > Dev, over two months ago I presented the project as it is today, and with > > this, if you really concrete, are endangering the goals. > > > > We can confirm asap? > > > > thanks > > > > Alberto > > > > > > > > De: Amparo Arango [mailto:amparo.arango@gmail.com <mailto: > > amparo.arango(a)gmail.com> ] > > Enviado el: miércoles, 07 de mayo de 2014 08:39 a.m. > > Para: Yacine Khelladi; Alberto Soto > > Asunto: seguimiento taller ICANN > > > > > > > > Estimados: > > > > > > > > ya estamos a mayo 7 y todavía no se tiene la fecha para el taller de > > ICANN. Pero ademas tampoco se han hecho los contactos formales con que > > universidad se haría este taller. > > > > > > > > Yo sugerí tres opciones: PUCMM, APEC INTEC. Durante NETmundial se hablo > > informalmente con Clara Collado de PUCMM, ella en principio quedo > > interesada pero se le dijo que se le enviaría una comunicación con todos > > los detalles. > > > > > > > > No se si se pueda hacer un taller extra para el Grupo de Governanza en > > INDOTEL...Si es así hay que organizarlo desde ahora. > > > > > > > > Yacine, tienes que decidir con quien se haría y si es Clara Colado hay > que > > enviarle ya la petición formal. > > > > > > > > También debes informarle al grupo de ISOC para que ellos sean también > > convocantes... > > > > > > > > Hay que preparar la invitación y hablar con las demás universidades.. > > > > > > > > En fin estamos ya en el limite para hacer todo lo que hay que ¡hacer. Yo > > salgo de viaje la primera semana de junio y además este mes tengo una > > agenda complicada. > > > > > > > > Por tanto les recuerdo acelerar este proceso pues esta todo por hacer. > > > > > > > > Amparo > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Amparo Arango Echeverri > > > > Cel: 809-696-7008 <tel:809-696-7008> > > skype: arangoe > > Twitter: aarango > > > > <https://www.facebook.com/amparo.arango> > > https://www.facebook.com/arangoecheverri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > -- > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > Facultad de Química UNAM > Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 > Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > Antonio Gómez Medina President Colombian Association of Internet Users I presidencia(a)acui.co @ Amedinagomez Skype amedinagomez Cell 3118689626 _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/f0469c0762.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia
by apisanty＠gmail.com May 12, 2014

May 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia From: apisanty(a)gmail.com Alberto, Thanks for sharing this item preliminarily. Question: in this "tour" of the lminas are also necessary introduccina information systems? Ms allde it also commented that other organizations are avoiding Internet define a system of information, including "a system "because it produces some undesirable reflex reactions - as limit the system structure it, own it and rule it. There is some semantics discussion here, of course, from quse meant by "System". Second observation recently (eg by reviewing for the third or fourth time Laura de Nardis book about "the war for governance Internet ") noisy estresultando me the term" Hierarchical "on DESCRIPTION DNS IP addresses, and the administration of one and other.While both systems ESTN well described as "jerrquicos" in terms of their structures, the same is not strictly true for governance. Speaking of "hierarchical governance" to produce uninitiated also adverse reflections; created image of a control system, above Down, in which each party receives orders from a boss. What really is, especially in the DNS, is to delegate authority completely independent. This leads to the principle of subsidiarity, the importance of the shore, and the character surprise! Hierarchical no, horizontal Internet. Third, to describe the organization of the "At Large" seems expose essential from the very beginning the concept of "Web of Trust" in which the entire system is based. This concept also based esten the admissions process for new organizations or ALS. By exposing the system to organizations invited to join, is important you explain to quvan to be subject to inspecciny by of quin.And it is important to be known by other organizations recognized ALS, to support them based on information close and confident about their compliance with the requirements. Finally, on this last point: that ms avsales better have the Very hard skin. Best regards to all / as Alejandro Pisanty 5/12/2014 10:30 GMT-05: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> : > Estimados, ayer finalmente recibimos la aprobación de ambos proyectos, que > se llevarán a cabo entre el 03 y 07 Junio 2014. Habíamos pedido una > excepción para que Sebastien Bacholet pudiera viajar, pero no nos la > otorgaron. Por esta razón en su reemplazo y por sugerencia del grupo de > trabajo, viajaré yo en mi carácter de Presidente de LACRALO, y se mantiene > a Sylvia Herlein Laite. > > En Haití contaremos con el soporte de Jean Marie Altema (Idiomas Francés > nativo, inglés y español), fellowship de ICANN. Este contacto nos lo dio > oportunamente Fátima Cambronero, a quien agradezco. > > Les adjunto la presentación que con su pertinente modificación, será > utilizada en ambos lugares. En este momento se está traduciendo al francés, > y ya contamos con el ejemplar en inglés. > > > > Como verán, esta presentación es la realizada en Bolivia. Si bien hubo > participación, no fue la deseada. El evento era con cargo, no accesible a > toda organización, ni tampoco a público en general. Tenía simultáneamente > dentro de la misma Universidad, otro tema que evidentemente era más > importante para el público convocado al Congreso. Por esta experiencia > quizás si tengo tiempo, haré una aclaración sobre el programa CROPP. Creo > que un evento de este tipo, no debe estar contenido entro en otro evento > mayor, con temáticas varias y conferencias simultáneas, pierde efectividad. > De todos modos, se acercaron tres personas a preguntar sobre las > posibilidades de ciertas organizaciones. Estoy esperando que se contacten > vía mail, pero dos casi seguro no certificarían. > > > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > > > > De: Dev Anand Teelucksingh [mailto:devtee@gmail.com] > Enviado el: domingo, 11 de mayo de 2014 08:08 a.m. > Para: Alberto Soto; Humberto Carrasco > CC: sylvia@prontocl; Silvia Vivanco; At-Large Staff; Juan Manuel Rojas > Asunto: Re: RV: seguimiento taller ICANN > > > > Dear Alberto, > > > > As a FYI, Rodrigo gave his approval on Thursday evening and I filed the > proposal on the ICANN wiki on Friday. > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Pro… > > > https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Pro… > > > > > > Also, with these proposals now using 4 travel slots out of LACRALO's 5 > travel slots, instead of 2 as was originally proposed by the end of the > conference calls, > > the third proposal with 2 travellers to the ICT event in Suriname will > have to be adjusted to have only 1 traveler. > > > > Dev Anand > > > > > > > > > > 2014-05-07 11:23 GMT-04:00 Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com<mailto: > devtee(a)gmail.com> >: > > Dear Alberto, > > > > There haven't been any concerns from CROPP RT so I've sent to Rodrigo and > Albert for approval. Once that is obtained, we'll file the proposal on > ICANN's wiki. > > > > However, to be very, very clear, Alberto, I'm not responsible for the > delay in this. > > Your initial proposal lacked clarity and detail from the beginning and > required numerous emails and eventually conference calls to sort out the > information needed for the trip proposals after they were not forthcoming. > > > Then there were many various changes to the travellers themselves that YOU > requested, including different combinations of travellers travelling to > Haiti and the Dominican Republic proposed by you. > > > > This proposal was formally submitted twice to the CROPP RT and withdrawn > because of changes YOU requested. > > > > I've always been diligent in working with you to see LACRALO succeed in > any outreach efforts. Please remember that. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Dev Anand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-05-07 8:32 GMT-04:00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto: > asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> >: > > > > FYI > > Dev, over two months ago I presented the project as it is today, and with > this, if you really concrete, are endangering the goals. > > We can confirm asap? > > thanks > > Alberto > > > > De: Amparo Arango [mailto:amparo.arango@gmail.com <mailto: > amparo.arango(a)gmail.com> ] > Enviado el: miércoles, 07 de mayo de 2014 08:39 a.m. > Para: Yacine Khelladi; Alberto Soto > Asunto: seguimiento taller ICANN > > > > Estimados: > > > > ya estamos a mayo 7 y todavía no se tiene la fecha para el taller de > ICANN. Pero ademas tampoco se han hecho los contactos formales con que > universidad se haría este taller. > > > > Yo sugerí tres opciones: PUCMM, APEC INTEC. Durante NETmundial se hablo > informalmente con Clara Collado de PUCMM, ella en principio quedo > interesada pero se le dijo que se le enviaría una comunicación con todos > los detalles. > > > > No se si se pueda hacer un taller extra para el Grupo de Governanza en > INDOTEL...Si es así hay que organizarlo desde ahora. > > > > Yacine, tienes que decidir con quien se haría y si es Clara Colado hay que > enviarle ya la petición formal. > > > > También debes informarle al grupo de ISOC para que ellos sean también > convocantes... > > > > Hay que preparar la invitación y hablar con las demás universidades.. > > > > En fin estamos ya en el limite para hacer todo lo que hay que ¡hacer. Yo > salgo de viaje la primera semana de junio y además este mes tengo una > agenda complicada. > > > > Por tanto les recuerdo acelerar este proceso pues esta todo por hacer. > > > > Amparo > > > > > > -- > > Amparo Arango Echeverri > > Cel: 809-696-7008 <tel:809-696-7008> > skype: arangoe > Twitter: aarango > > <https://www.facebook.com/amparo.arango> > https://www.facebook.com/arangoecheverri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > --------------------------- Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM Faculty of Chemistry 3000 University Avenue, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/e1e0094b6a.html --]]

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Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org May 12, 2014

May 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Dear, yesterday finally received the approval of both projects, which will be held between 03 and June 7, 2014. We had requested an exception to Sebastien Bacholet could travel, but were not awarded. For this reason his replacement and suggestions of the working group, I will travel in my capacity as President of LACRALO, and held at Sylvia Herlein Laite. Haiti will have the support of Jean Marie Altema (Native Languages \u200b\u200bFrench, English and Spanish), ICANN fellowship. This contact gave it timely Cambronero Fatima, whom I thank. I attached the presentation that your modifications thereto, will be used in both places. Currently being translated into French, and we already have the copy in English. You see, this presentation is made in Bolivia.While there was involvement was not desired. The event was under, not accessible to the entire organization, or to the general public. He simultaneously within the same university, another issue that was obviously more important for Congress convened public. For this experience maybe if I have time, I'll CROPP clarification on the program. I think an event like this, should not be content delivery in another major event, with several simultaneous thematic conferences, loses effectiveness. Anyway, three people came to ask about the possibility of certain organizations. I'm hoping that they contact via mail, but two almost certainly not certify. Best Regards Alberto Soto From: Dev Anand Teelucksingh [mailto: devtee(a)gmail.com] Posted on: Sunday, May 11, 2014 8:08 a.m. To: Alberto Soto; Humberto Carrasco CC: sylvia @ prontocl; Silvia Vivanco; At-Large Staff; Juan Manuel Rojas Subject: Re: RV: ICANN monitoring workshop Dear Alberto, As a FYI, Rodrigo gave his approval on Thursday evening and I filed the proposal on the wiki ICANN on Friday. https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Pro… https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Pro… Also, With These Proposals now using slots 4 travel out of travel LACRALO's 5 slots, instead of 2 as was originally Proposed by the end of the conference calls, the third proposal with 2 Travelers to the ICT event in Suriname will Have To Be To Have adjusted only 1 traveler. Dev Anand 7/5/2014 11:23 GMT-04: 00 Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com <mailto:devtee@gmail.com> >: Dear Alberto, There have not been any CROPP Concerns from RT so I've sent to Rodrigo and Albert for approval. Once Obtained That is, we'll file the proposal on ICANN's wiki. However, to be very, very clear, Alberto, I'm not responsible for the delay in This. Your initial proposal Lacked clarity and detail from the beginning and required Eventually multitude numerous emails and conference calls to sort out the information needed for the trip Proposals after They Were not forthcoming. Then there were many changes to the various Travelers Themselves That You requested, including different combinations of Travelers traveling to Haiti and the Dominican Republic Proposed by you. This proposal was formally submitted to the CROPP RT twice and withdrawn YOU Because of changes requested. I've always been diligent in working with you to see LACRALO succeed in any outreach efforts. Please remember that. Kind Regards, Dev Anand 07.05.2014 8:32 GMT-04: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> >: FYI Dev, over two months ago I presented the project as it is today, and WITH THIS, if you really concrete, are endangering the goals. We can confirm asap? thanks Alberto From: Amparo Arango [mailto: amparo.arango @ gmail.com <mailto:amparo.arango@gmail.com> ] Posted on: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 8:39 a.m. To: Yacine Khelladi; Alberto Soto Subject: ICANN monitoring workshop Estimates: we're to May 7 and we do not yet have a date for the workshop ICANN. But also not been made formal contact with the university that this workshop would. I suggested three options: PUCMM, APEC INTEC. During NETmundial will speak informally with Clara Hill of PUCMM, she'll stay interested at first but he said he would send a communication to all the details. Not if you can make an extra workshop on Governance Group lNDOTEL ... If so you have to organize it now. Yacine, you have to decide who would and if there already Clara Colado give formal request. You should also inform the group of ISOC so that they are also conveners ... You have to prepare the invitation and talk with other universities .. Finally we are at the limit to do everything we need to do. I go on a trip the first week of June and this month also have a complicated agenda. So I remember them accelerate this process because this all done. Protection - Amparo Arango Echeverri Cel: 809-696-7008 <tel:809-696-7008> skype: arangoe Twitter: I aarango < https://www.facebook.com/amparo.arango> https://www.facebook.com/arangoecheverri [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/44d3e30a5e.html --]]

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Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org May 12, 2014

May 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Dear, yesterday finally received the approval of both projects, which will be held between 03 and June 7, 2014. We had requested an exception to Sebastien Bacholet could travel, but were not awarded. For this reason his replacement and suggestions of the working group, I will travel in my capacity as President of LACRALO, and held at Sylvia Herlein Laite. Haiti will have the support of Jean Marie Altema (Native Languages \u200b\u200bFrench, English and Spanish), ICANN fellowship. This contact gave it timely Cambronero Fatima, whom I thank. I attached the presentation that your modifications thereto, will be used in both places. Currently being translated into French, and we already have the copy in English. You see, this presentation is made in Bolivia.While there was involvement was not desired. The event was under, not accessible to the entire organization, or to the general public. He simultaneously within the same university, another issue that was obviously more important for Congress convened public. For this experience maybe if I have time, I'll CROPP clarification on the program. I think an event like this, should not be content delivery in another major event, with several simultaneous thematic conferences, loses effectiveness. Anyway, three people came to ask about the possibility of certain organizations. I'm hoping that they contact via mail, but two almost certainly not certify. Best Regards Alberto Soto From: Dev Anand Teelucksingh [mailto: devtee(a)gmail.com] Posted on: Sunday, May 11, 2014 8:08 a.m. To: Alberto Soto; Humberto Carrasco CC: sylvia @ prontocl; Silvia Vivanco; At-Large Staff; Juan Manuel Rojas Subject: Re: RV: ICANN monitoring workshop Dear Alberto, As a FYI, Rodrigo gave his approval on Thursday evening and I filed the proposal on the wiki ICANN on Friday. https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Pro… https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Pro… Also, With These Proposals now using slots 4 travel out of travel LACRALO's 5 slots, instead of 2 as was originally Proposed by the end of the conference calls, the third proposal with 2 Travelers to the ICT event in Suriname will Have To Be To Have adjusted only 1 traveler. Dev Anand 7/5/2014 11:23 GMT-04: 00 Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com <mailto:devtee@gmail.com> >: Dear Alberto, There have not been any CROPP Concerns from RT so I've sent to Rodrigo and Albert for approval. Once Obtained That is, we'll file the proposal on ICANN's wiki. However, to be very, very clear, Alberto, I'm not responsible for the delay in This. Your initial proposal Lacked clarity and detail from the beginning and required Eventually multitude numerous emails and conference calls to sort out the information needed for the trip Proposals after They Were not forthcoming. Then there were many changes to the various Travelers Themselves That You requested, including different combinations of Travelers traveling to Haiti and the Dominican Republic Proposed by you. This proposal was formally submitted to the CROPP RT twice and withdrawn YOU Because of changes requested. I've always been diligent in working with you to see LACRALO succeed in any outreach efforts. Please remember that. Kind Regards, Dev Anand 07.05.2014 8:32 GMT-04: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> >: FYI Dev, over two months ago I presented the project as it is today, and WITH THIS, if you really concrete, are endangering the goals. We can confirm asap? thanks Alberto From: Amparo Arango [mailto: amparo.arango @ gmail.com <mailto:amparo.arango@gmail.com> ] Posted on: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 8:39 a.m. To: Yacine Khelladi; Alberto Soto Subject: ICANN monitoring workshop Estimates: we're to May 7 and we do not yet have a date for the workshop ICANN. But also not been made formal contact with the university that this workshop would. I suggested three options: PUCMM, APEC INTEC. During NETmundial will speak informally with Clara Hill of PUCMM, she'll stay interested at first but he said he would send a communication to all the details. Not if you can make an extra workshop on Governance Group lNDOTEL ... If so you have to organize it now. Yacine, you have to decide who would and if there already Clara Colado give formal request. You should also inform the group of ISOC so that they are also conveners ... You have to prepare the invitation and talk with other universities .. Finally we are at the limit to do everything we need to do. I go on a trip the first week of June and this month also have a complicated agenda. So I remember them accelerate this process because this all done. Protection - Amparo Arango Echeverri Cel: 809-696-7008 <tel:809-696-7008> skype: arangoe Twitter: I aarango < https://www.facebook.com/amparo.arango> https://www.facebook.com/arangoecheverri [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/d75087c85f.html --]]

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by amedinagomez＠gmail.com May 12, 2014

May 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? = Utf-8 CONVOCATORIA_DE_AFILIACI q = C3 = 93N = utf-8 3A_Int == q-Large_de_Trabajo_Curadur erino_de_At = C3 = utf-8 ADa_Grupo_L == q = C3 = ADmite_16_de_May???? ? = From: amedinagomez(a)gmail.com Buenos das. Please include my name in this working group, in representation of Colombian Association of Internet Users On May 9, 2014, 18:39, <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > Asunto: CONVOCATORIA DE AFILIACIÓN: Interino de At-Large de Trabajo > Curaduría Grupo Límite 16 de May > De: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > Queridos todos, > Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Presidente de la ALAC, ha solicitado una > convocatoria de miembros del gobierno interino de At-Large Grupo de Trabajo > Curaduría. > El Grupo de Trabajo de At-Large Curaduría pretende dar a conocer el > alcance de ICANN de la comunidad y mejorar la participación de los usuarios > finales con la comunidad mediante el desarrollo de una presencia fuerte y > sostenible en las redes sociales. El At-Large Curaduría WG, en estrecha > coordinación con At-Large, se encarga principalmente de la aplicación de la > Estrategia global de medios de comunicación social para At-Large ( > https://community.icann.org/x/lBcQAg) > Desde el grupo de trabajo no se establecerá oficialmente hasta el ALAC > aborda la cuestión durante su llamada mensual a finales de mayo, un > interino de At-Large se formará Curaduría WG y en funcionamiento durante el > mes de mayo, la aplicación de la Estrategia global de medios de > comunicación social. Dev Anand Teeluckingh ha aceptado la petición de > Olivier Crepin-Leblond para que él tome el cargo de Presidente Interino. > Algunas de las tareas para el At-Large Curaduría WG son: > > > * Creación de plantillas para 'contenido de fluido' (por ejemplo, > mensajes de ALAC-Anuncie lista de correo); > * El plan y el proyecto de la cantidad requerida de 'contenido estático' > durante cada período de trabajo (por ejemplo, información de fondo sobre la > gente y el trabajo de la comunidad); > * Brindar cobertura en vivo de las reuniones de ICANN y eventos en los > medios de comunicación social; > * Facilitar la interacción entre comunidades a través de los medios de > comunicación social; > * Seguimiento y análisis de medios sociales indicadores clave de > rendimiento (KPI) en una base regular; > * Evaluar canales digitales adicionales para la expansión potencial; > * Desarrollar mejores conocimientos práctica y la organización en la > gestión de los medios de comunicación social. > At-Large miembros Curaduría GT deben tener algún conocimiento y > experiencia en medios de comunicación social. At-Large curaduría Los > miembros deben ser de todas las regiones con al menos un miembro de cada > uno de los siguientes grupos: > > > * Subcomité ALAC sobre Outreach ( https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ) > * At-Large Capacity Building Grupo de Trabajo ( > https://community.icann.org/x/1Ic3Ag) > * At-Large Grupo de Trabajo de Tecnología Task Force ( > https://community.icann.org/x/FpfbAQ) > * Cada Organización Regional At-Large > Los miembros interesados \u200b\u200bde la comunidad At-Large son > bienvenidos a unirse. Pease bien indica su interés por comentar sobre el > At-Large Curaduría de Trabajo Grupo de área de trabajo (ver: > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Curation+Working+Group > ) > Saludos, > > > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie > Peregrine y Terri Agnew > El personal de ICANN Política en apoyo de ALAC > E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<applewebdata://68497759-1B04-4F9B-84B7-B9445B8F305F/Regards,%20Heidi%20Ullrich,%20Silvia%20Vivanco,%20Matt%20Ashtiani,%20Ariel%20Liang,%20Gisella%20Gruber,% > 20Nathalie%20Peregrine%20and%20Julia%20Charvolen%20ICANN%20Policy%20Staff%20in%20support%20of%20ALACmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/5ff638f734.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ? = Utf-8 q RECORDATORIO_ / _PRE-ATLAS_II_Programa_d == utf-8 q = C3 = B3n e_Capacitaci 3A_Tema_del_futuro_de_la_Gobernanza_ == = utf-8 q = de_Internet_Parte_2?????
by amedinagomez＠gmail.com May 12, 2014

May 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re:? = Utf-8 q RECORDATORIO_ / _PRE-ATLAS_II_Programa_d == utf-8 q = C3 = B3n e_Capacitaci 3A_Tema_del_futuro_de_la_Gobernanza_ == = utf-8 q = de_Internet_Parte_2????? From: amedinagomez(a)gmail.com Confirm participation ES 3118689626 The May 11, 2014, 17:08, <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > Tema: RECORDATORIO / PRE-ATLAS II Programa de Capacitación: Tema del > futuro de la Gobernanza de Internet Parte 2 > De: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > > > Espaol despus de la versin Ingls > Franais en bas de mensaje ce > ******** > > > Si necesita una llamada de salida, por favor póngase en contacto con > At-Large personal > staff(a)atlarge.icann.org con su número preferido. > Llamada Si NECESITA Una un su telefono, please PNGasa en contacto Con El > de personal de At-Large Preferido en staff(a)atlarge.icann.org estafa do > nmero. > Si vous avez besoin d'un acceso telefónico de salida, merci de le > Communiquer au personal > At-Large staff(a)atlarge.icann.org avec votre numro d'appel PRFR. > > > ******************** > > > Queridos todos, > > > Esta es una invitación para asistir a la quinta creación de capacidad > PRE-ATLAS II > Programa sobre el tema de El futuro de la Gobernanza de Internet Parte 2. > Los entrenadores > será Nigel Hickson, VP - Organizaciones No Gubernamentales > Internacionales (OIG), > ICANN y Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Presidente de la ALAC. > > > Este seminario está prevista para el lunes 12 mayo 2014, desde > 21:00-22:00 UTC. > > > Para otras veces: > http://tinyurl.com/pko5eoz > > > El proyecto de orden del día y call detalles se pueden encontrar en: > https://community.icann.org/x/3T-RAg > > > Se proporcionará francés ad interpretación española. > > > Adobe Connect: > https://icann.adobeconnect.com/preatlas2cb/ > ID de la conferencia: > ES: 1638 > ES: 1738 > FR: 1838 > http://adigo.com/icann/ > > > Si necesita una llamada de salida, por favor póngase en contacto con > At-Large personal > staff(a)atlarge.icann.org con su número preferido. > > > Todos los webinars se enumeran en la siguiente página: > https://community.icann.org/x/ciDRAg > > > IMPORTANTE: > La hoja de evaluación adjunta nos proporcionará su valiosa opinión. > Por favor, rellenarlo al final de la sesión de webinar y enviarlo de > vuelta a > staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > > También puede hacer preguntas relacionadas con cada sesión en el Wiki: > https://community.icann.org/x/ST-Rag > ( > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ATLAS+II+Capacity+Building+Webi > narios + + - + + Preguntas y Respuestas + + Espacio de trabajo) dentro de > una semana a partir de las sesiones > fecha; El entrenador de la contestará, a más de 2 semanas a partir de la > fecha de la > presentación. > > > > > Gracias. > Saludos, > > > ******************* > Estimados Todos, > > > De Esta es Una invitacin párrafo Asistir al quinto seminario del Programa > de > Desarrollo de Capacidades PRE-ATLAS II. El tema de los sueros El Futuro > de la > Gobernanza de Internet Parte 2. > > > Los Instructores sern Nigel Hickson, VP - Internacionales Gubernamentales > Organizaciones (OIG), ICANN y Olivier Crepin-Leblond, prsidente de la > ALAC. > > > Este Webinar estprogramado párrafo el lunes 12 mayo 2014, a las > 21:00-22:00 > UTC. > > > Para ver las horas en sus Información respectivos paises Vea: > http://tinyurl.com/pko5eoz > > > El Orden del día Detalles de La Llamada sí pueden ENCONTRAR en: > https://community.icann.org/x/3T-RAg > > > Se proporcionarinterpretacion en francsy espaol. > > > Adobe Connect: > https://icann.adobeconnect.com/preatlas2cb/ > > > Identificación de la Conferencia: > ES: 1638 > ES: 1738 > FR: 1838 > http://adigo.com/icann/ > > > Llamada Si NECESITA Una un su telefono, please PNGasa en contacto Con El > de personal de At-Large Preferido en staff(a)atlarge.icann.org estafa do > nmero. > > > Todoslosseminarios web en sí enumeran en la siguiente pgina: > https://community.icann.org/x/doPhAg > > > IMPORTANTE: > La hoja de evaluacin Adjunta nos daruna retroalimentacin Importante. Por > favor, sirvase llenarla al final, de la sesión del seminario y enviela > staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > > Tambien Puede del preguntar respecto de una sesión de CADA en la pagina > Wiki: > https://community.icann.org/x/ST-Rag > ( > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ATLAS+II+Capacity+Building+Webi > narios + + - + + Preguntas y Respuestas + + Workspace) Dentro De Una > Semana despues de la > sesion. El Orador respondera a mas tardar en 2 Semanas desde la Fecha de > la > presentacin. > > > > > Gracias. > Saludos cordiales, > > > ********************* > > > Chers Tous, > > > Nous vous invitons assister au cinquime webinar du programme de > Renforcement des Capacits PRE-ATLAS II sur le thme de l'Avenir de la > Gobernanza de l'Internet - 2Partie. Les formateurs seront Nigel Hickson, > Vice-Prsident - Organizaciones Internationales gouvernementales (OIG), > ICANN et Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Prsident de l'ALAC. > > > Ce Webinar est prvu le lundi 12 mai 2014, de 21:00-22:00 UTC. > > > Pour voir votre heure locale: > http://tinyurl.com/pko5eoz > > > L'ordre du jour et les dtails de l'appel sont DISPONIBLES la página > suivante: > https://community.icann.org/x/3T-RAg > > > Cet appel sueros interprten français et espagnol. > > > Adobe Connect: > https://icann.adobeconnect.com/preatlas2cb/ > < https://icann.adobeconnect.com/preatlas2cb/ > < https://icann.adobeconnect.com/preatlas2cb/ > > > ID pour la Confrence: > ES: 1638 > ES: 1738 > FR: 1838 > http://adigo.com/icann/ > > > Si vous avez besoin d'un acceso telefónico de salida, merci de le > Communiquer au personal > At-Large staff(a)atlarge.icann.org avec votre numro d'appel PRFR. > > > Tous les webinairessont listssur la page suivante: > https://community.icann.org/x/coPhAg > > > IMPORTANTE: > La fiche d'valoración-ci conjunta nous permettra De recueillir vos > commentaires > qui nous sont importants. Merci de bien vouloir la remplir la fin de la > sesión du webinar et de la renvoyer staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. > > > Vous pouvez galement poser des questions mentiras sesión chaque-sur-le- > Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/ST-Rag > ( > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ATLAS+II+Capacity+Building+Webi > narios + + - + + Preguntas y Respuestas + + Workspace) dans la semaine > suivant le webinar; > Semaines Le formateur yrpondra au plus tard deux aprs la fecha de la > prsentation. > > > Merci beaucoup. > Cordialement, > > > > > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie > Peregrine y Terri Agnew > El personal de ICANN Política en apoyo de ALAC > > > E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > > > > Un mundo, una Internet > > > > > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/42548c3e17.html --]]

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