September 2008 - lac-discuss-en

Re: [lac-discuss-en] [LAC-Discuss] Board Liason y ALAC Rep
by Matthias Langenegger Sept. 30, 2008

Sept. 30, 2008

This message was sent to the LAC-Discuss list by Erick Iriarte. Sylvia asked me to use the automatic translation and send it back to the list in Spanish. -----Mensagem original----- De: lac-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de Erick Iriarte Ahon Enviada em: segunda-feira, 29 de setembro de 2008 22:36 Para: lac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [LAC-Discuss] Board Liason y ALAC Rep Hi. Only to be clear and i think be clear with Carlton and Andres and Alberto 1. I put the position of my institution if you have some reason to disagree with that position is your option, but i want to be clear: we can choose any option for Board Liason, and is a right choose, and your duty accept our choose. 2. Decide to don't support an option is clear: we thinking different, we thinking in different things and we really thinking in LAC like a region. 3. I think i can said that i believe, i worked hard to your participation like institution, i worked hard for involved more people and organizations in ALAC (for years), so i can have the moral right to express when i see that we take a wrong path in our decisions, i created you destroyed, so for that results i can express my disappointment with that. 4. Please if you have time to translate my emails, i think you have time to translate the documents and emails of ALAC, could be better use of your time, my emails are only emails. 5. I only express a position, but is clear for you have a different point of view is not democratic, when democracy is respect the different point of view, that called minority, and sometimes (really sometimes) the minority have the reason, but the majority decided. I express clearly that we want a voting process, if you win (like your desire) if an option, but my option is not voting for you or vote blank, because you didn't represent the values of Alfa-Redi. 6. I signed like Executive Director of Alfa-Redi not like General Manager of LACTLD, please be careful with your comments. 7. Finally, a democracy is complete respect for opinions of others, and respect decision, we express our position. We express without qualifications our position, please respect our position, and i really prefer a democracy where all can have an opinion than a dictator with only one opinion to share, i fought against a dictator in my country and i need to leave to Argentina because my family was threatened, i fought for democracy and i don't want start now to surrender to any kind of authoritarianism or dictatorship or fascist way of working. I fight for your right to express your ideas, inclusively against my ideas, please take the same way of live. Democracy is respect ideas, all ideas inclusively your ideas. Erick Iriarte Ahon Executive Director - Alfa-Redi http://www.alfa-redi.org

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Board liaison
by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org Sept. 28, 2008

Sept. 28, 2008

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Board liaison From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Brazil internaut votes by Wendy Seltzer! Greetings, Sylvia Herlein Leite Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/30e346c26d.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] ENC: Announcement translation
by rmedina＠alfa-redi.org Sept. 26, 2008

Sept. 26, 2008

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: ENC: Announcement translation From: rmedina(a)alfa-redi.org Nick: Single I can say that I understand very well your mail translated to Spanish by the system, without delivering greater attack, nor reviewing original version in English. I believe that respect is an important improvement of the old system, and for that reason we would have to use thesystem of translation. There will always be problems or faults in the software of translation, but what computer science system does not have them. It no it would have to avoid to use it. Greetings Ruddy Nick.Ashton-Hart(a)icann.org wrote: > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > Subject: Re: ENC: Translation of the warning Of: Nick.Ashton-Hart(a)icann.org > Dear Sylvia: When you opinion that this system is not > far better that other ' you are referring the last interface > of the translation? If it is thus it remembers that we oftenreceived email > totally in target in the list of that system. At least with > this one, we obtained email and they are translated, and at heart there is one > connection to the original text. I am not a Spanish speaker > unfortunately. For me, most of the traffic of the list that > sends in the regular list is totally ilegible. With > translations in this list of the test, I can understand basically > which is being said. Perhaps I am unusual but this is lookedlike me > far better that that cannot read any thing in all. Rudy, > what you think? What on other people of English speech who > is the reading the Spanish ! translations? In 26/09/2008 17:55, > "sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org" <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> it wrote: _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/3f6160f852.html --]]

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ENC: Announcement translation
by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org Sept. 26, 2008

Sept. 26, 2008

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: ENC: Announcement translation From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Dear Nick, without wanting to be kill-joy, and being it allows of the concerted effort that staff is making find means to improve the communication in LACRALO, I see myself in the obligation say that this new system is not much better than the other. As much of the English for the Spanish, like of the Spanish it stops the English has serious errors, that when the reader knows a little the 2 languages noncause problem, since it can compare the original one and translation. But when one is people who single know one languages... continuous being dificil to understand. He would be interesting, as you ask for it, who our companions who single they speak English or Spanish they are pronounced and they sayto us if they are understanding translations. Single thus we will know if it is worth the trouble to adopt this new system. Greetings, Sylvia Herlein Leite -----Mensagem original Of: lac-discuss-in-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-in-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of Nick Ashton-Hart Shipment command post: fifth-feira, 25 of setembro of 2008 06:24 It stops: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: [ lac-discuss-in ] Announcement translation Dear spanish speaking colleagues: I have just forwarded to public consultation announcement to the list.Is the translation reasonably good? For It seems to me that this interface is working sufficiently well itto be put into production uses. If those of you who speak spanish could let U.S. know if you agree, that would be helpful. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart For director AT-Large For Internet Corporation Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Main Tel: +33 (450) THE 40 46 88 USA DD: +1 (310) 578-8637 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com/AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com/Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/82a03ec848.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] grabacion de los candidatos a liason
by Matthias Langenegger Sept. 26, 2008

Sept. 26, 2008

Thank you, Sylvia, I uploaded the file again. If you try again in 5 minutes, you should be able to listen to it. Matthias On 26/09/2008 19:06, "sylvia-internautabrasil" <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> wrote: Estimados, cuando intento escuchar la version en español de la teleconferencia con Wendy y Beau aparece la siguiente información "Request file not found. " La versión en ingles se puede escuchar perfectamente, pero la de español y frances no! Sylvia Herlein Leite Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil

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Announcement translation
by Nick Ashton-Hart Sept. 26, 2008

Sept. 26, 2008

Dear spanish speaking colleagues: I have just forwarded a public consultation announcement to the list. Is the translation reasonably good? It seems to me that this interface is working sufficiently well for it to be put into production use. If those of you who speak spanish could let us know if you agree, that would be helpful. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director for At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA DD: +1 (310) 578-8637 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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RES: [LAC-Discuss] Re: RE: posición formal de LACRALO sobre la Nueva Política de viajes
by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org Sept. 26, 2008

Sept. 26, 2008

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=Á_=5BLAC-Discuss=5D__Re=Á __?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_RE=Á__posici=F3n_formal_de_LACRALO_sobre_la_Nueva = =?iso-8859-1?q?_Pol=EDtica_de_viajes = From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Without a doubt Matias, is that what I am dealing with organizar1 A meeting for an active participation. So that we make a document official that Carlos and Jose can take to Cairo. Until now single there was commentaries but no concrete answer! ok, then we met Friday 10/10 to the 1ÚTC by Skype like them I proposed or not!!!??? Sylvia Herlein leite -----Mensagem original Of: Matías Altamira [ to mailto:matias@altamiragigena.com.ar ] Shipment command post: quarta-feira, 24 of setembro of 2008 16:00 It stops: ' Scott S Robinson'; ' Carlos aguirré; ' sylvia-internautabrasil'; ' LAC Discuss' Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: RE: [ LAC-Discuss ] Re: RE: formal position of LACRALO on the New one Policy of trips I adhere to this position and I ratify my sayings in which nonsingle we have ourselves to complain but to propose alternatives, and with that objective was that I took myself work to translate the email of Denise Michel because it was specifically that ICANN demands to LACRALO "an ACTIVE PARTICIPATION to him". Matías IIISI Rep. Matías Altamira Lawyer ALTAMIRA GIGENA - Legal Study Bv. San Juan 101 Floor 2° Of. "To" - Cordova - Argentina Tel/Fax: + 54 351 422-2057/ 428-1624 to matias(a)altamiragigena.com.ar to www.altamiragigena.com.ar Original -----Mensaje Of: lac-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In nameof Scott S Robinson Sent: Wednesday, 24 of September of 2008 01:00 p.m. It stops: Carlos Aguirre; sylvia-internautabrasil; ' LAC Discuss' CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [ LAC-Discuss ] Re: RE: formal position of LACRALO onthe New one Policy of trips Colleagues, Support this proposal of Carlos Aguirre. Scott Robinson Vinculart, A.C. Mexico AT 10:37 a.m. 24/09/2008, Carlos Aguirre wrote: > Dear Silvia; like habras been able to see in > preliminary document on this subject > politica is obvious and in summary to reduce > assigned amounts. The people of the NARALO this > fixing position criticizes to this, like > some members of ALAC, inclusively we, if > you remember in a previous opportunity, in > telecoinferencia of trtamos LACRALO of August > subject and also those that we participated we fixed > one first opposite position to this "new one" > politica. I agree with vos in which resultaria > satisfactory to fix it to a serious document and > good for knowing of Jose Luis and of as he walks that > document so that I and jose Ovid pruned > to present/display it like the official position of LACRALO > in proximo meeting of November. a hug to all. > > > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > lawyer - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > > > > From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > To: > lac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.i! cann.org > Date: Wed, > 24 Sep 2008 12:21:56 -0300 > CC: > priscila(a)internautabrasil.org; > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: [ LAC-Discuss ] formal position of > LACRALO on the New Policy of trips > > > Dear companions: > > in the last one > teleconferencing of Lacralo was informed to us > by Nick that will be > a public hearing on > the new dispositions of trip policies > > in the next meeting of the Cairo. > > We must > therefore and to the brevity to reunite to us and > to put in agreement with > "the formal position to us" > that will so have our region before this subject > > important. > > Mr. Jose Luis Barsallo > began to make a rough draft to which Sergio > Saline > and I added some things. Like no > I could participate in anteúltima > meeting, no > I know how > is that document > I propose to Them > that we organize a meeting via Skype for > 10 /10/2008 to > 10 UTC (W! ith Skype we can > at the same time to speak to 13 people). &! gt; > I am > convinced that it is of extreme importance that > LACRALO pronounces > formally > > Please > responds this message to know whatever > will be able to participate in > this meeting or if > needs that he is in another date > > > Greetings, > > Sylvia Herlein > Leite > > > > > > > > Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil > >> >_________________________________________________________________ > Descargá FREE the power of the new Internet Explorer 7. > to http://optimized.msn.com/Default.aspx?mkt=es-ar >_______________________________________________ > LAC-Discuss mailing list > LAC-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss_atlarge-lists.i cann.org > for > homepage the region: http://www.lacralo.org > > Posting guidelines to ensure machine > translations of emails sent to the list plows dwells > accurate: > http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html# anexo1 > > nonvirus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169/Virus Database: 270.7.1/1688 > - Release Date: 24/09/2008 6:29 _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/3f39a18ed9.html --]]

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ALAC Voting Results - Vote on ratification of the Statement on GNSO Restructuring (Response to Five Questions Related to Board Discussion of GNSO Restructuring)
by At-Large Staff Sept. 26, 2008

Sept. 26, 2008

Dear Members: Please be advised that a vote recently closed on the question: Do you believe that the Statement on GNSO Restructuring should be ratified by the ALAC? Has resulted in ratification of the statement, by a vote of 8-0 in favour. The results may be independently verified at: http://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=rDXC9gM6DxVRBeUwcCiM. The statement itself may be viewed electronically at https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?alac_response_to_gnso_restructuring _questions_al_alac_st_0908_1. The statement has been transmitted to the ICANN Vice-President for Policy Development. The Staff shall arrange the posting of the statement on atlarge.icann.org shortly. When announcing the results of voting, we have been requested by the Chair to provide a listing of those who have not voted. Accordingly, we can confirm that the following ALAC members did not participate in the balloting: 1 Izumi Aizu 2 Annette Muehlberg 3 Jose Ovidio Salgueiro 4 Hawa Diakite 5 Robert Guerra 6 Vanda Scartezini 7 Fatimata Seye Sylla -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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ALAC Voting Results - Vote on ALAC Overview Report
by At-Large Staff Sept. 26, 2008

Sept. 26, 2008

Dear Members: Please be advised that the vote recently closed on the question: Do you believe that the Overview Report on the ALAC Review accurately reflects the various opinions held within At-Large on the ALAC Review Final Report? Has resulted in a non-quorate result - a vote of 7-0 in favour. At least 8 votes must be cast for a vote to produce a result. The results may be independently verified at: https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=kbVvjKr9pu6kX6I5WHe4. The overview report itself may be viewed electronically at https://st.icann.org/data/workspaces/alac-docs/attachments/alac_read_only_do cument_store:20080916064015-0-10475/files/AL-ALAC-OVR-0908-1%20ALAC%20Overvi ew%20Report%20on%20ALAC%20Review%20-%20EN.pdf. The Chair will announce in due course the next steps with respect to voting on this document. When announcing the results of voting, we have been requested by the Chair to provide a listing of those who have not voted. Accordingly, we can confirm that the following ALAC members did not participate in the balloting: 1 Izumi Aizu 2 Annette Muehlberg 3 Carlos Aguirre 4 Jose Ovidio Salgueiro 5 Hawa Diakite 6 Thu Hue Nguyen 7 Vanda Scartezini 8 Fatimata Seye Sylla -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org .

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Announcement translation
by Nick Ashton-Hart Sept. 25, 2008

Sept. 25, 2008

Dear Ruddy: That seems very good though, 75-80%! Should we start the process to go ahead with using it on the main list? Do you think it is ready? On 25/09/2008 17:53, "rmedina(a)alfa-redi.org" <rmedina(a)alfa-redi.org> wrote: Dear Nick: The traduction system of the list is good for me in 75-80%. I think that the traduction is razonable for people no english spoken, but require a little work by the orden of the words, because the estructure of the text in spanish have other orden that the english. For people that understand english a little (as me), the traduction in much better. Regards, Ruddy Medina Alfa Redi Nick.Ashton-Hart(a)icann.org escribió: > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > Tema: Traducción del aviso De: Nick.Ashton-Hart(a)icann.org Colegas de > habla hispana queridos: Acabo de transmitir a un aviso público de > la consulta la lista. Es ¿traducción razonablemente buena? Se > parece a mí que este interfaz está trabajando suficientemente bien > para que sea puesto en uso de la producción. Si los de usted que > hablan español podrían dejarnos saber si usted conviene, eso sea > provechoso. -- Respeto, Ashton-Ciervo De la Mella Director para > En-Grande Internet Corporation para los nombres y los números > asignados(ICANN) Teléfono Principal: +33 (450) 40 46 88 DD DE LOS > E.E.U.U.: +1 (310) 578-8637 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Móvil: +41 (79) > 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Triunfo IM: > ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com/AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com/Skype: > nashtonhart Bio En línea: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart > [[--Original text (en) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/64b7267fcb.html > --]] > -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director for At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA DD: +1 (310) 578-8637 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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