January 2011 - lac-discuss-en

DOODLE / Conference call with ALSes in Latin America
by ICANN At-Large Staff April 5, 2011

April 5, 2011

Dear all, With the discussion in the LACRALO bylaw working group and further discussion among several of the ALSes at the ICANN meeting in Cartagena, Colombia regarding participation of ALSes in LACRALO, it was decided by the LACRALO President and Secretariat to have : - a conference call with ALSes from the Latin American region (with Spanish interpretation) - a conference call with ALSes from the Caribbean region Both of these conference calls would take place before the monthly LACRALO conference call. The suggested agenda of these two regional conference calls : - hear what ALSes have to say regarding their involvement in LACRALO and the way forward for improved ALS participation in LACRALO. - what information is needed by ALSes and its members to better participate in LACRALO. A series of possible briefing calls could then be planned. - mention of the possible LACRALO bylaw modifications to address participation in LACRALO. - a discussion regarding the idea of possible regional balance of the ALAC representatives from LACRALO so that one ALAC Representative from an ALS from the Latin American region and one ALAC Representative from an ALS in the Caribbean region. The call will be scheduled for 90 minutes with interpretation for Spanish and English. ALSes from Latin America are requested to complete the following Doodle by Thursday 13th January 2011 at 2000 UTC. http://doodle.com/sif3cmupzzp4iikb Thank You, Andres Piazza LACRALO President Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat

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BOLIVIA: Solicitud de participación en lista de discusión
by Eduardo Feb. 8, 2011

Feb. 8, 2011

Estimados colegas, La Fundación Redes para el Desarrollo Sostenible (REDES), es una organización de sociedad civil sin fines de lucro especializada en la construcción de la Sociedad de la Información en/desde Bolivia. Con más de ocho años de experiencia, hemos influido en el diseño de políticas públicas en mi país. Actualmente, trabajamos en la elaboración de la Ley de TIC en el marco del derecho a la Comunicación articulando varios actores. Nos interesa sobremanera articularnos a la Red de ICANN, considerando que este año abordaremos en profundidad asuntos relacionados a Gobernanza de Internet. Contamos con el apoyo de varias redes de organizaciones para potenciar nuestro accionar. A la espera de su atenta colaboración, les saluda atentamente. J. Eduardo Rojas Presidente Ejecutivo Fundación REDES Calle Víctor Sanjinés Nº 2895 Piso 1 Of. 3 (Zona Sopocachi) Tel/Fax: (591) 2-2911190 Móvil: 70192120 www.fundacionredes.org La Paz, Bolivia

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Geograficas Regions
by presidencia＠internauta.org.ar Jan. 31, 2011

Jan. 31, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Geograficas Regions From: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Alexander: Yet respect I must indicarte that has not been outside place commentary, historically in our THIN one has discussed the ALS that the Caribbean and those that do not reside in that sub-region, without no reside in kind of problem. Single I expressed what it calls the attention to me or is strange to me of excessively, that in this opportunity is position like commentary of LACRALOone manifestation of "ALS of the Caribbean", when not even they sent a single one mail to discuss and to accompany the position by the assembly of the THIN one. I am surely of which many of their points of view had been accompanied by the different ALS that integrate the LACRALO. By another one part also I would like to know when and which representatives of ALS were joined, since I had liked to work with those ALS that they have never participated in the rich experience of our region and by that it is seen they were present. We have been working with Carlton, Fatima, Dev, Arch, Sylvia, Andres and Carlos (cultural, political and regional diversity if there are them) from already for a time speaking on these subjects, that to the reflection of your words seem shady and dark and to the light of the clear task, certain, it needs and it jeopardize see as an encounter and construction of a common place of respect and work, surpassing the differences cultural and historical after a "region growing in the diversity". To bring to collation Olga Cavalli to the discussion of the region is very unsuitable since you are avoiding the work and leadership of Carlton Samuels (Jamaica) in the WG that represented our thin one and not to one part of him. And to tell the truth, and yet the respect that you deserve to me Alex, I do not know if the incorporation of Olga to the discussion to take it like a lack of information in the subject by part yours, a negationof work of Carlton Samuels, or single that you incorporate names to solve internal problems of ISOC (that I clarify to you I do not knowas they are, if these exist and if the this outside case; I do not believe that they are own of this list of discussion). I want to leave well in clear that I am right founded on the history of our THIN one to say that here never there was exclusion of no country or if sub-region, ethnic group or creed are wanted, to say that there is exclusion of the Caribbean it is to lack to the truth or in its defect to twist the factsof a way little become attached to the reality. It is so important to listen to my proposal? or it is more important proposal of the assembly of the ALSes and that I and Sylvia pruned to take that to the ALAC? In function to the answer that DES you will know if entendés to you as I understand it, the processes of the civil society and of internal and external democracies, the one to participate and representing collective and nonsingle subject to be the voice of the isolated subject taking representation of if same. I want aclararte that day 28/01/2011 09:21 a.m. (Hour of my country) was sent the order of manifestation on the part of the ALS of ours region so that we pruned to know which was the opinion on thispoint, there the intensive period of consultations was opened that you are requesting, the same one it was fortifying the one that outside sent by the secretary of the LACRALO Dev Anand Teelucksingh (Trinidad & Tobago) received 27/01/2011day a the 01:07 p.m. of my country in my tray of entrances. It will be continued with this modality to open to the debate and to the pertinent consultations to different ALS in all those subjects that can factually be possible to do it, that was my commitment at the time of postulating tome and is the one that I will take until the last day that is called on to me to be representing the region. I agree with vos in the subject of the split of which I pronounced myself in last teleconferencing and in the aggregate in the POINT SECONDof your email. Hopefully Alex, as much you as ISOC Mexico can have one more a participation hard in the debates of subjects concerning the region to know what they think on these and they contribute to the internal growthof the same one. It has always been welcome your vos and the one of your companions at the time of to make contributions. An affectionate and sincere greeting. * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Latin American federation of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * The 28/01/2011 10:12 p.m., Alexander Pisanty wrote: > Sergio, Carlos, Andrés, > > seems to me that the communication emitted by the members ofLACRALO that > resides in the Caribbean denies the complacencia of these > participation of You and the one of Javier Pallero. > > seems to Me outside place your commentary, Sergio, in whom you > you surprise of which the ALS of the Caribbean did not discuss in this list. Yes > is correct to ask which are adehieren to the communication, but > also is necessary to ask to us what so deep is the problem. > problem must be analyzed like a problem of the community andlike > a fault of leadership from the previous administration. We cannot > to deny that there is an exclusion situation, and we cannot assume it like > a collective fault of the community only, if ours > representing and elect civil employees do not take care of it of dedicated way. > > the communication of the Caribbean is aligned with the one of Carlos Side and > ! returns concrete the effects from the principles that it discusses. It fits > to mention that Olga Cavalli participated in the processing of the report in > comment as member of the GNSO Council and surely can clarify > much which LACRALO needs to understand better and will be able to transmit > that we need to transmit. > > and in addition, that communication sample that the application of those > principles has serious effects. Those effects are so seriousthat > can take to the LACRALO division, well by a massive affiliation > of the members from the Caribbean to NARLAO, or by a weakening or > disappearance of its participation in LACRALO, that is of regional base, > changing it by an active participation in the group of states > insulares small, that reflects conditions of its countries that are more > determining of its reality in subjects of Internet that itslocation. > > Sergio, what you propose? By the position to that you were elect, I believe that > you! are forced at least a to initiate an intensive process of > ! consulta tions. That process of private and public consultations must show > if there is mechanisms and sufficient will so that the Thinones of > continent we work altogether with those of the Caribbean orif, by > opposite, is necessary to begin to work on a split base. > > and that are due to reflect in which LACRALO thinks on the report of > ICANN referring to the definition of geographic regions. > > In my vision, a split will be a lamentable result. > > SECOND POINT. > > the impact of a split of this nature is ample. We would be > adding us to the reasons and precedents that would give foundation that > other regions also were divided and to that organizations were created like > a region, and a THIN one, for, what will be, North Africa and one > part of the Middle East, Western Asia? > > Although the report in comment does not enter these discussions, the Caribbean > is going ahead to the conclusions at which it had to arrive > following round of analysis. > > the cues! tionamiento of the Caribbean is serious, I repeat it. And therefore it is > a strong call of attention to LACRALO, beyond the preservation > of statu quo in our own region or a change in the same one. > > Hopefully these lines serve so that Sergio and who it can summon > - INCLUDING COLLEAGUES Of the CARIBBEAN - makes an exposition new that > we pruned to debate and to decide soon. > > Warm greetings. > > > Alexander Pisanty > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . ! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . . > > > On Fr! i, 28 Ja n 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:43:05 -0300 > > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Geograficas Regions > > > > Welcome Javier! > > Thanks for your contribution and commentaries. Such they are considered. * > > * warm Greetings > > > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina AsociaciÃ³n > > Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > > Latin American FederaciÃ³n of Users of Internet > > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > > MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina > > Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > > > > the 28/01/2011 04:33 p.m., j.karmakiller(a)gmail.com escribiÃ³: > > > Dear friends of the list of Mail: > > > > > > > > > is the fi! rst time that I participate! I take advantage of to send my greetings a > > > all. > > > My name is Javier Pallero, of Ageia Densi Argentina. > > > > > > > > > With respect to the document on geogr?ficas regions, ismy humble one > > > opinion that the criterion that had to be used (but alla to look for > > > a legitimation in the uses of the UN or other organisms > > > international) is the one of the communicational practicidad within > > > organizacion. > > > > > > > > > Because ICANN is an immense structure, with interactions > > > between diverse disciplines of work, organizations, governments, > > > etc the nomenclature on Geograficas Regions deberia to be one > > > own and that facilitates the use and understanding on the part of mayoria > > > of the subjects involved in ICANN. > > > > > > > > > the present one, for example, condice with the effec! tive distribution of > > > the RIRs. Habria that to sta! nd out a s is the present use that the actors > > > of ICANN in their diverse activities makes and to unifyfor that side. > > > > > > > > > the words is noises, and the classifications, categorias > > > communicational. That she is what but people use and she contributes a > > > to unify criteria within organizacion, is what preferir?a. > > > > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________ Javier PalleroDerecho and > > > Society of Informaci?n - AGEIA DENSI > > > > > > http://linkedin.com/javierpallero > > > http://javierpallero.tumblr.com > > > > > > sent from * > > > * > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-dis! cuss-is > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/a18dc5a4d7.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] HEAD OF CATTLE: Geograficas Regions
by presidencia＠internauta.org.ar Jan. 31, 2011

Jan. 31, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: HEAD OF CATTLE: Geograficas Regions From: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Dear Vanda: Thanks for the contribution of your experience within the Fellowship Program! , the same one can help the subjects much that we are debating inthese days. A strong hug * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Latin American federation of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * The 29/01/2011 03:46 p.m., Vanda UOL wrote: > > Considered > > Quiero to add to this subject the experience that we had in Fellowship > Program from 2007 when we began. We had one longa discussioncom > members of all the regions and we obtained a division that until today > is working very well. > > a) LAC - there was no position as much of existing members as of > fellows during these years that I have suggested any change in > division that today is. The Caribbean & Latin America feel > perfectly located in a same region. > > b) Europe - they consider the division perfect that the community accepts and > that now reunites all of the leste. > > c) The North America, although Mexico is part of the North, quedose > only com the countries Canada and the United States > > d) the problem was in Asia and Africa, where we managed to divide them, > traverse of the continents like down: > > ·Arab community - including to all with Arab ancestry, they esteban > they i! n Africa or Oriente.medio > > ·The STAN -- including all those of completion -- stan in English -- > afganistan, Pakistan, turquistan, etc... that if they feel totally > outside of all the others, including India among them > > ·The Asians as we understand, including Japan, China, > Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapur, Thailand, Korea etc.... > > ·Those of Sul Pacific -- that include the islands that are countries > around Australia. > > With this division the Fellows, during these + of 10 meetings, no > let feel represented always well. > > Creo that the experience of fellows must be considered. > > Hugs > > Vanda Scartezini > > Pole Consulting Associados > > IT Trend > > Tree-lined avenue Holy 1470 -- 1407,8 > > 01418-903 São Paulo, SP, Brazil > > Tel + 5511 3266.6253 > > Mob + 55118181.1464 > > -----Mensagem original > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome o! f > Alexander Pisanty > Shipment command post: sixth-feira, 2! 8 of jan eiro of 2011 23:13 > For: presidency Argentina Internaut > Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Geograficas Regions > > Sergio, Carlos, Andrés, > > seems to me that the communication emitted by the members ofLACRALO that > resides in the Caribbean denies the complacencia of these > participation of You and the one of Javier Pallero. > > seems to Me outside place your commentary, Sergio, in whom you > you surprise of which the ALS of the Caribbean did not discuss in this list. Yes > is correct to ask which adhere to the communication, but > also is necessary to ask to us what so deep is the problem. > problem must be analyzed like a problem of the community andlike > a fault of leadership from the previous administration. We cannot > to deny that there is an exclusion situation, and we cannot assume it like > a collective fault of the community only, if ours > representing and elect civil employees do not take care of it of d! edicated way. > > the communication of the Caribbean is aligned with the one of Carlos Side and > returns concrete the effects from the principles that it discusses. It fits > to mention that Olga Cavalli participated in the processingof the report in > comment as member of the GNSO Council and surely can clarify > much which LACRALO needs to understand better and will be able to transmit > that we need to transmit. > > and in addition, that communication sample that the application of those > principles has serious effects. Those effects are so serious that > can take to the LACRALO division, well by a massive affiliation > of the members from the Caribbean to NARLAO, or by a weakening or > disappearance of its participation in LACRALO, that is of regional base, > changing it by an active participation in the group of states > insulares small, that reflects conditions of its countries that are more > determining of its reality in subjects of Internet that itslo! cation. > > Sergio, what you propose? By the position to that ! you were elect, I believe that > you are forced at least a to initiate an intensive process of > consultations. That process of private and public consultations must show > if there is mechanisms and sufficient will so that the Thinones of > continent we work altogether with those of the Caribbean orif, by > opposite, is necessary to begin to work on a split base. > > and that are due to reflect in which LACRALO thinks on the report of > ICANN referring to the definition of geographic regions. > > In my vision, a split will be a lamentable result. > > SECOND POINT. > > the impact of a split of this nature is ample. We would be > adding us to the reasons and precedents that would give foundation that > other regions also were divided and to that organizations were created like > a region, and a THIN one, for, what will be, North Africa and one > part of the Middle East, Western Asia? > > Although the report in comment does not enter these discussions, the Caribbean > is go! ing ahead to the conclusions at which it had to arrive > following round of analysis. > > the cuestionamiento of the Caribbean is serious, I repeat it. And therefore it is > a strong call of attention to LACRALO, beyond the preservation > of statu quo in our own region or a change in the same one. > > Hopefully these lines serve so that Sergio and who it can summon > - INCLUDING COLLEAGUES Of the CARIBBEAN - makes an exposition new that > we pruned to debate and to decide soon. > > Warm greetings. > > Alexander Pisanty > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mex! ico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Par! ticipate s in ICANN, http://www.icann.org. . . . . . . . . >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:43:05 -0300 > > > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > > > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Geograficas Regions > > > > > > Welcome Javier! > > > Thanks for your contribution and commentaries. Such they are had in > > > counts. * * Warm greetings > > > > > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina AsociaciÃ³n > > > Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > > > Latin American FederaciÃ³n of Users of Internet > > > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > > > MSN/MSN > > > YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 > > > 215819 > > > * > > > > > > > > > t! he 28/01/2011 04:33 p.m., j.karmakiller(a)gmail.com > <mailto:j.karmakiller@gmail.com> escribiÃ³: > > > > Dear friends of the list of Mail: > > > > > > > > > > > > is the first time that I participate! I take advantage of to send my greetings a > all. > > > > My name is Javier Pallero, of Ageia Densi Argentina. > > > > > > > > > > > > With respect to the document on geogr?ficas regions, ismy humble one > > > > opinion that the criterion that had to be used (but alla to look for > > > > a legitimation in the uses of the UN or other organisms > > > > international) is the one of the communicational practicidad within > organizacion. > > > > > > > > > > > > Because ICANN is an immense structure, with interactions between > > > > diverse disciplines of work, organizations, governments, etc > > > > nomenclature on Geograficas Regions deberia to be an own one and that > > > > ! facilitates the use and understanding on the part of mayoria o! f > > &g t; > subject involved in ICANN. > > > > > > > > > > > > the present one, for example, condice with the effective distribution of > the RIRs. > > > > Habria that to stand out as is the present use that theactors of ICANN in > > > > their diverse activities makes and to unify for that side. > > > > > > > > > > > > the words is noises, and the classifications, categorias > > > > communicational. That she is what but people use and she contributes to unify > > > > criteria within organizacion, is what preferir?a. > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________ Javier PalleroDerecho and > > > > Society of Informaci?n - AGEIA DENSI > > > > > > > > http://linkedin.com/javierpallero > > > > http://javierpallero.tumblr.com > > > > > > > > sent from * > > > > * > > ! > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/1b4d32d374.html --]]

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HEAD OF CATTLE: Geograficas Regions
by vanda＠uol.com.br Jan. 29, 2011

Jan. 29, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: HEAD OF CATTLE: Geograficas Regions From: vanda(a)uol.com.br Considered I want to add to this subject the experience that we had in Fellowship Program from 2007 when we began. We had one longa discussion com members of all the regions and we obtained a division that until today is working very well. a) LAC - there was no position as much of existing members as of fellows during these years that I have suggested any change in the division that today it is. The Caribbean & Latin America feel perfectly located in a same region. b) Europe - they consider the division perfect that the community accepts and that now it reunites all of the leste. c) the North America, although Mexico is part of the North, quedose only com the countries Canada and the United States d) the problem was in Asia and Africa, where we managed to divide them, traverse of the continents like down: · Arab community - including to all with Arab ancestry, they in Africa or Oriente.medio esteban · The STAN - including all those of completion - stan in English- they afganistan, Pakistan, they turquistan, etc... that if they feel totally outside of all the others, including India among them · The Asians as we understand, including Japan, China, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapur, Thailand, Korea etc.... · Those of Sul Pacific - that include the islands that are countries around Australia. With this division the Fellows, during these + of 10 meetings, did notleave of to feel represented always well. I believe that the experience of fellows must be considered. Hugs Vanda Scartezini Pole Consulting Associados IT Trend Tree-lined avenue Holy 1470 - 1407,8 01418-903 São Paulo, SP, Brazil Tel + 5511 3266.6253 Mob + 55118181.1464 -----Mensagem original Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of Alexander Pisanty Shipment command post: sixth-feira, 28 of janeiro of 2011 23:13 It stops: presidency Argentina Internaut Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Geograficas Regions Sergio, Carlos, Andrés, it seems to me that the communication emitted by the members of LACRALO that they reside in the Caribbean denies the complacencia of these participation of You and the one of Javier Pallero. It seems to me outside place your commentary, Sergio, in whom you are surprised of that the ALS of the Caribbean did not discuss in this list. Yes he is correct to ask which adhere to the communication, but also is necessary to ask to us what so deep is the problem. The problem must be analyzed as a problem of the community and as a fault of leadership from previous administration. We cannot deny that there is a situation of exclusion, and we cannot assume it as a collective fault of the community only, if our elect representatives and civil employees do not take care of it of dedicated way. The communication of the Caribbean is aligned with the one of Carlos Side and returns concrete the effects of the principles that it discusses. It is possible to mention that Olga Cavalli participated in the processing of the report in comment like member of the GNSO Council and surely it will be able to clarify muchof which LACRALO need to understand better and you will be able to transmit what we need to transmit. And in addition, that communication sample that the application of those principles it has serious effects. Those effects are so serious that theycan take to LACRALO division, well by a massive affiliation of the membersof The Caribbean to NARLAO, or by a weakening or disappearance ofhis participation in LACRALO, that is of regional base, changing it by one active participation in the group of small states insulares, that reflects conditions of its countries that are more determining of theirreality in subjects of Internet that its location. Sergio, what you propose? By the position to that you were elect, I believe that you are forced at least a to initiate an intensive process of consultations. That process of private and public consultations must show if thereare mechanisms and sufficient will so that the Thin ones of the continent we workaltogether with those of the Caribbean or if, by the opposite, it is necessary to begin to work on a split base. And that is due to reflect in which LACRALO thinks on the ICANN report referring to the definition of geographic regions. In my vision, a split will be a lamentable result. SECOND POINT. The impact of a split of this nature is ample. We would be adding us to the reasons and precedents that would give foundation that others regions also were divided and to that organizations like a region were created, and a THIN one, for, what will be, North Africa and a part of Means Orient, Western Asia? Although the report in comment does not enter these discussions, the Caribbean it is advancing to the conclusions at which the following one had to arrive analysis round. The cuestionamiento of the Caribbean is serious, I repeat it. And therefore she is one hard call of attention to LACRALO, beyond the preservation of statu quo in our own region or a change in the same one. Hopefully these lines serve so that Sergio and who it can summon - INCLUDING COLLEAGUES Of the CARIBBEAN - they make an exposition new who we pruned to debate and to decide soon. Warm greetings. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: <http://pisanty.blogspot.com> http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: <http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty> http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: <http://twitter.com/apisanty> http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, <http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614> http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, <http://www.isoc.org.mx> http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC <http://www.isoc.org> http://www.isoc.org * Participates in ICANN, <http://www.icann.org> http://www.icann.org. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote: > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:43:05 -0300 > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Geograficas Regions > > Welcome Javier! > Thanks for your contribution and commentaries. Such they are had in > counts. * * Warm greetings > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina AsociaciÃ³n > Argentina de Usuarios de Internet < <http://www.internauta.org.ar> http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > Latin American FederaciÃ³n of Users of Internet > < <http://www.fuilain.org> http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > MSN/MSN > YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 > 215819 > * > > > the 28/01/2011 04:33 p.m., <mailto:j.karmakiller@gmail.com> j.karmakiller(a)gmail.com escribiÃ³: > > Dear friends of the list of Mail: > > > > > > is the first time that I participate! I take advantage ofto send my greetings to all. > > My name is Javier Pallero, of Ageia Densi Argentina. > > > > > > With respect to the document on geogr?ficas regions, is my humble one > > opinion that the criterion that had to be used (but alla to look for > > a legitimation in the uses of the UN or other organisms > > international) is the one of the communicational practicidad within organizacion. > > > > > > Because ICANN is an immense structure, with interactions between > > diverse disciplines of work, organizations, governments, etc > > nomenclature on Geograficas Regions deberia to be an own one and that > > facilitates the use and understanding on the part of mayoria of > > subject involved in ICANN. > > > > > > the present one, for example, condice with the effective distribution of RIRs. > > Habria that to stand out as is the present use that the actors of ICANN in > > their diverse activities makes and to unify for that side. > > > > > > the words is noises, and the classifications, categorias > > communicational. That she is what but people use and she contributes to unify > > criteria within organizacion, is what preferir?a. > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________ Javier PalleroDerecho and > > Society of Informaci?n - AGEIA DENSI > > > > <http://linkedin.com/javierpallero> http://linkedin.com/javierpallero > > <http://javierpallero.tumblr.com> http://javierpallero.tumblr.com > > > > sent from * > > * > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-it is > > > > <http://www.lacralo.org> http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/838c5fe345.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Geograficas Regions
by carlosaguirre62＠hotmail.com Jan. 29, 2011

Jan. 29, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Geograficas Regions From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com Dear Alexander: Moan the these spills by you in your previous mail, so that I really respect to you deeply. But, I have been able toappreciate, after to have leido several times the mail that you sent: or that nothing you understood, or that when doing the commentary carecias of some substantial information. That is for my, at least, intranquilizador. I say to this so that a person of your carats and with the trajectory that your you have, puede/debe not to miss the concept of the way in which you did it. Evidently your nonparticipation in the teleconferencings of the Region, nor in the long meetings that we have maintained of actual way(Andres, Sergio, Sylvia, Arch, Dev, Antonio, Carlton, Fatima and I) inI complete ICANN meeting, can haberte lead to commit size error. Ademas icluyes to people whom nothing they have to do in this; for example: you mention to Carlos Side that has not participated either in the mentioned meetings (neither teleconferencings, nor actual), ademas of it, and to top it all you incorporate the name of Olga whichbut alla to be in the WG of Geograficas Regions by the GNSO (Like Carlton Samuels, that concur by ALAC), does not have either been in these discuciones of the region and ademas not this in the list of post office LACRALO, reason why I do not understand the mention that beams of its name. Of all ways, (and not to extend in to me that when you review us to it daras the reason), I believe in the diversity of opinions, and if outside the case that! pensaramos different (thing that is not asi, and alli are your error) either serious questionable ours to seem, single serious one opinion different. The error is pardoned to you, but serious good you acabadamente take the necessary collections for informarte before raising something thatstops others podria to seem offensive and thoughtless. We come for a long time trying to generate and to consolidate "a" region LAC and although it is certain that there are that tries the division, those we are not we (Sergio, Andres, Javier and that writes), neither by action nor default surely. I want that this is left for your tranquillity and the one of the people of the capitulos of ISOC well clear that you have mentioned affectionate greeting of which it considers to you. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN to former ALAC to member by LACRALO Lawyer - Specialistic in Right of the Businesses Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org Date: The Sat, 29 Jan 2011 01:13:55 +0000 From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] Geograficas Regions [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] Sergio, Carlos, Andrés, it seems to me that the communication emitted by the members of LACRALO that they reside in the Caribbean denies the complacencia of these participation of You and the one of Javier Pallero. It seems to me outside place your commentary, Sergio, in whom you are surprised of that the ALS of the Caribbean did not discuss in this list. Yes he is correct to ask which adhere to the communication, but also is necessary to ask to us what so deep is the problem. The problem must be analyzed as a problem of the community and as a leadership fault from the previous administration. We cannot deny that there isa situation of exclusion, and we cannot assume it as a collective fault of community only, if our elect representatives and civil employees no they take care of it of dedicated way. The communication of the Caribbean is aligned with the one of Carlos Side and returns concrete the effects of the principles that it discusses. It is possible to mention that Olga Cavalli participated in the processing of the report in comment like member of the GNSO Council and surely will be able to clarify much of which LACRALO needs to understand better and will be able to transmit what we need to transmit. And in addition, that communication sample that the application of those principles it has serious effects. Those effects are so serious that theycan take to LACRALO division, well by a massive affiliation of the membersof The Caribbean to NARLAO, or by a weakening or disappearance ofhis participation in LACRALO, that is of regional base, changing it by one active participation in the group of small states insulares, that it reflects conditions of his countries that are more determining of their reality in subjects of Internet that its location. Sergio, what you propose? By the position to that you were elect, I believe that you are forced at least a to initiate an intensive process of consultations. That process of private and public consultations must show if thereare mechanisms and sufficient will so that the Thin ones of the continent we workin assembly with those of the Caribbean or if, by the opposite, it is necessary to begin a to work on a split base. And that is due to reflect in which LACRALO thinks on the ICANN report referring to the definition of geographic regions. In my vision, a split will be a lamentable result. SECOND POINT. The impact of a split of this nature is ample. We would be adding us to the reasons and precedents that would give foundation that others regions also were divided and to that organizations like one were created region, and a THIN one, for, what will be, North Africa and a part of The Middle East, Western Asia? Although the report in comment does not enter these discussions, the Caribbean it is advancing to the conclusions at which the following one had to arrive analysis round. The cuestionamiento of the Caribbean is serious, I repeat it. And therefore she is one hard call of attention to LACRALO, beyond the preservation of statu quo in our own region or a change in the same one. Hopefully these lines serve so that Sergio and who it can summon - INCLUDING COLLEAGUES Of the CARIBBEAN - they make an exposition new who we pruned to debate and to decide soon. Warm greetings. Alexander Pisanty Subject: Re: Geograficas Regions From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx Sergio, Carlos, Andrés, it seems to me that the communication emitted by the members ofLACRALO that they resides in the Caribbean denies the complacencia of theseparticipation of You and the one of Javier Pallero. It seems to me outside pleases your commentary, Sergio, in whom you plows surprised of that the ALS of the Caribbean did not discuss in this list. Yeshe is correct to ask which adhere to the communication, but also is necessary to ask to U.S. what under deep is the problem. The problem must be analyzed ace to problem of the community and ace to leadershipfault from the previous administration. We cannot deny that there isa situation of exclusion, and we cannot assume it ace to collective fault of community only, if our elect representatives and civil employees no they take care of it of dedicated way. The communication of the Caribbean is aligned with the one of Carlos Side and returns effects makes specific the of the principles that it discusses. Possible It is to mention that Olga Cavalli participated in the processing of the report in comment like to member of the GNSO able Council and surely will be to clarify much of which LACRALO needs to understand to better and will be able to transmit what we need to transmit. And in addition, that communication sample that the application of those principles it there are serious effects. Those effects plows under serious that theycan take to LACRALO division, well by to massive affiliation of the membersof The Caribbean to NARLAO, or by to weakening or disappearance ofhis participation in LACRALO, that is of regional base, changing it by one group activates participation in the of small states insulares, that it reflects conditions of his countries that plows dwells determining of to their reality in subjects of Internet that its location. Sergio, what you propose? By the position to that you were elect, I believe that you plows forced AT least to to initiate an intensive process of consultations. That process of private and public consultations must show if thereare mechanisms and sufficient will under that the Thin ones of the continent we workin assembly with those of the Caribbean or if, by the opposite, it is necessary to begin a to work on to split bases. And that is due to reflect in which LACRALO thinks on the ICANN report referring to the definition of geographic regions. In my vision, to split will be to lamentable result. SECOND POINT. The impact of to split of this nature is ample. We would be adding U.S. to the reasons and precedents that would give foundation that others regions also were divided and to that organizations like one were created region, and to THIN one, for, what will be, North Africa and to part of The Middle East, Western Asia? Although the report in comment does not to enter these discussions, the Caribbean it is advancing to the conclusions AT which the following onehad to arrive analysis round. The cuestionamiento of the Caribbean is serious, I repeat it. And therefore she is one hard call of attention to LACRALO, beyond the preservation of statu quo in our own region or to change in the same one. Hopefully these lines serve under that Sergio and who it dog summon - INCLUDING COLLEAGUES Of the CARIBBEAN - they make an exposition new who we pruned to debates and to decides soon. Warm greetings. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn you promarry out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã'106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote: > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:43:05 -0300 > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-is ] Geograficas Regions > > Welcome Javier! > for Thanks your contribution and commentaries. Such they plows considered. * > * warm Greetings > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internaut Argentina AsociaciÃÂ³n Argentina > of Users of Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- FederaciÃÂ³n > Latin American of Users of Internet > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN > YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5215819 > * > > > the 28/01/2011 04:33 p.m., j.karmakiller(a)gmail.com escribiÃÂ³: > > Dear friends of the list of Mail: > > > > > > is the first Time that I participate! I t! ake advantage of to send my greetings to all. > > My name is Javier Pallero, of Ageia Densi Argentina > > > > > &g! t; With respect to the document on geogr?ficas regions, is myhumble opinion > > that the criterion that had to be used (but alla to look for to legitimation > > in the international you use of the or to other organisms) isthe one of > > communicational practicidad within organizacion. > > > > > > immense Because ICANN is an structure, with interactions between > > to diver itself you discipline of work, organizations, governments, etc > > nomenclature on Geograficas Regions deberia to be an own one and that > > facilitates the uses andunderstanding on the part of mayoria of the subjects > > involved in ICANN. > > > > > > the present one, for example, condice with the effective distribution of the RIRs. > > Habria that to stand out ace is the present uses that the actors of ICANN in his > > to diver activities makes and to unify for that side. > > > > > > the words is ! noises, and the classifications, categorias > > commu! nicational. That she is what but people uses and she contribute! s to uni fy > > criteria within organizacion, is what preferir?a. > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________ Javier PalleroDerecho and Society > > of Informaci?n - AGEIA DENSI > > > > http://linkedin.com/javierpallero > > http://javierpallero.tumblr.com > > > > sent from * > > * > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________ [ [ - - Original text (he is) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/1454âa213.html --]] _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/d52045abef.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Geograficas Regions
by apisan＠servidor.unam.mx Jan. 29, 2011

Jan. 29, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Geograficas Regions From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx Sergio, Carlos, Andrés, it seems to me that the communication emitted by the members ofLACRALO that they reside in the Caribbean denies the complacencia of these participation of You and the one of Javier Pallero. It seems to me outside place your commentary, Sergio, in whom you are surprised of that the ALS of the Caribbean did not discuss in this list. Yeshe is correct to ask which adhere to the communication, but also is necessary to ask to us what so deep is the problem. The problem must be analyzed as a problem of the community and as a leadership fault from the previous administration. We cannot deny that there isa situation of exclusion, and we cannot assume it as a collective fault of community only, if our elect representatives and civil employees no they take care of it of dedicated way. The communication of the Caribbean is aligned with the one of Carlos Side and returns concrete the effects of the principles that it discusses. It is possible to mention that Olga Cavalli participated in the processing of the report in comment like member of the GNSO Council and surely will be able to clarify much of which LACRALO needs to understand better and will be able to transmit what we need to transmit. And in addition, that communication sample that the application of those principles it has serious effects. Those effects are so serious that theycan take to LACRALO division, well by a massive affiliation of the membersof The Caribbean to NARLAO, or by a weakening or disappearance ofhis participation in LACRALO, that is of regional base, changing it by one active participation in the group of small states insulares, that it reflects conditions of his countries that are more determining of their reality in subjects of Internet that its location. Sergio, what you propose? By the position to that you were elect, I believe that you are forced at least a to initiate an intensive process of consultations. That process of private and public consultations must show if thereare mechanisms and sufficient will so that the Thin ones of the continent we workin assembly with those of the Caribbean or if, by the opposite, it is necessary to begin a to work on a split base. And that is due to reflect in which LACRALO thinks on the ICANN report referring to the definition of geographic regions. In my vision, a split will be a lamentable result. SECOND POINT. The impact of a split of this nature is ample. We would be adding us to the reasons and precedents that would give foundation that others regions also were divided and to that organizations like one were created region, and a THIN one, for, what will be, North Africa and a part of The Middle East, Western Asia? Although the report in comment does not enter these discussions, the Caribbean it is advancing to the conclusions at which the following one had to arrive analysis round. The cuestionamiento of the Caribbean is serious, I repeat it. And therefore she is one hard call of attention to LACRALO, beyond the preservation of statu quo in our own region or a change in the same one. Hopefully these lines serve so that Sergio and who it can summon - INCLUDING COLLEAGUES Of the CARIBBEAN - they make an exposition new who we pruned to debate and to decide soon. Warm greetings. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote: > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:43:05 -0300 > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Geograficas Regions > > Welcome Javier! > Thanks for your contribution and commentaries. Such they are considered. * > * warm Greetings > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina AsociaciÃÂ³n Argentina > of Users of Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- FederaciÃÂ³n > Latin American of Users of Internet > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN > YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 > * > > > the 28/01/2011 04:33 p.m., j.karmakiller(a)gmail.com escribiÃÂ³: > > Dear friends of the list of Mail: > > > > > > is the first time that I participate! I take advantage of to send my greetings to all. > > My name is Javier Pallero, of Ageia Densi Argentina. > > > > > &g! t; With respect to the document on geogr?ficas regions, is myhumble opinion > > that the criterion that had to be used (but alla to look for a legitimation > > in the international uses of the UN or other organisms) isthe one of > > communicational practicidad within organizacion. > > > > > > Because ICANN is an immense structure, with interactions between > > diverse disciplines of work, organizations, governments, etc > > nomenclature on Geograficas Regions deberia to be an own one and that > > facilitates the use and understanding on the part of mayoria of the subjects > > involved in ICANN. > > > > > > the present one, for example, condice with the effective distribution of the RIRs. > > Habria that to stand out as is the present use that the actors of ICANN in his > > diverse activities makes and to unify for that side. > > > > > > the words is noises, and the classifications, categorias > > commu! nicational. That she is what but people use and she contribute! s to uni fy > > criteria within organizacion, is what preferir?a. > > > > > > Greetings! > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________ Javier PalleroDerecho and Society > > of Informaci?n - AGEIA DENSI > > > > http://linkedin.com/javierpallero > > http://javierpallero.tumblr.com > > > > sent from * > > * > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/14544aa213.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Geograficas Regions
by andrespiazza＠gmail.com Jan. 29, 2011

Jan. 29, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Geograficas Regions From: andrespiazza(a)gmail.com Alexander, The 28 of January of 2011 22:12, Alexander Pisanty <apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx>he wrote: > Sergio, Carlos, Andrés, > > seems to me that the communication emitted by the members of LACRALO that > resides in the Caribbean denies the complacencia of these participation of > You and the one of Javier Pallero. > That is truth, for that reason it surprises me that the commentary arrives at wiki before the list, and for that reason I asked Dev and I asked it whichever ALS here they subscribe that declaration. > > seems to Me outside place your commentary, Sergio, in whom you are surprised of > that the ALS of the Caribbean did not discuss in this list. Yes he is correct > to ask which adhere to the communication, but also is necessary > to ask to us what so deep is the problem. The problem must be > analyzed like a problem of the community I hope that it is taken correctly. It sounds to something obvious east analysis, Alexander. >From always the first time has been a subject for the region (that wastouched the subject, memory interventions of Carlton, Lance and Jacqueline, towards Pablo Hinojosa at that moment, in the middle of 2006 in BuenosAires, before of the first creation of the THIN one) and one intensified after the voting of Director by AT Large. In Cartagena we dedicated to length and laying to this topic. As well as in last 2 teleconferencings, and in many informal dialogues, expensive to face and also virtual. I personally saw Sergio, to Carlos, to Fátima, Carlton, Dev, Arch, Sylvia, very involved in this subject. So it is so post Cartagena, orchestrated a new development: The teleconferencings subregional, between that one looks for to fortify the participation of the 2 subregions, to accentuate the idetidad of the same ones and toimprove the representation. > and as a leadership fault > from the previous administration. We cannot deny that there is a situation > of exclusion, and we cannot assume it as a collective fault of > community only, if our elect representatives and civil employees no > takes care of it of dedicated way. > To affirm this can be light, and to that referred to me in theprevious expression. It has, on the part of the people who just I mentioned, an exact understanding of the problem. It is in my leadership that was generated the situation of disagreement of a way well-known, and it was accentuated at the moment at which already we referred. Not in one previous one. The gentleness of the situation is justified, but gustaria to dissent to me with that there is an exclusion of this subregion. The Caribbean felt that there was such rupture in the topical Voting Director, but for the previous commission, the 2 delegates whom LACRALO sentare of the Caribbean. I personally voted them. As well as the first one officer (Carlton like Secretariat) and now Dev. Recordemos that after Mexico, 2 eramos officers Latin American in LACRALO, since nobody of the Caribbean had showed his intention to exert one of those rolls. After my confirmation like President, I insisted strongly so that Dev occupies the position of Secretariat (after seeing its shining task, I am glad it to have done). The Caribbean had greater representation in officials, who your own region, Alexander, if he is that the Latin North-Central America can be said that or Hispanic loudspeaker is a region. And also it had but representation that Andean region in LACRALO. Nothing badly considering that is 20% of the ALSs considering the weighed system. > > the communication of the Caribbean is aligned with the one of Carlos Side and returns > concrete the effects of the principles that it discusses. In this sense I expressed myself in the list and I emphasized that there is general consensus with the points of the rough draft that we are discussing, since as much the position of the Caribbean as the one of the rest of the ASS it agrees with the Draft of the Group of work. > Cabe to mention that > Olga Cavalli participated in the processing of the report incomment like > member of the GNSO Council and surely will be able to clarify much of which > LACRALO needs to understand better and will be able to transmit what we need > to transmit. > It is Olga in the list? Anyway to listen Carlton in this, something that I already did in the past, is healthful. Tb was member of the WG and delegate by a ALS of the Caribbean in LACRALO, as well as now member of ALAC. > > and in addition, that communication sample that the application of those principles > has serious effects. Those effects are so serious that they can take to > LACRALO division, well by a massive affiliation of the members of > Caribbean to NARLAO, or by a weakening or disappearance of his > participation in LACRALO, that is of regional base, changingit by one > active participation in the group of small states insulares,that > reflects conditions of its countries that are more determining of their reality > in subjects of Internet that its location. > This was included/understood acabadamente. I talk about the gentleness of situation. Possibly the answer finishes being that must separate, but I will do everything what is to my reach so that that doesnot happen. In individual with elt subject of our selection of voting director by AT Large, already I proposed that the system of "free vote" is reformulated after "directed vote" so that this does not return to happen. > Sergio, what you propose? By the position to that you were elect, I believe that you are > forced at least a to initiate an intensive process of consultations. That > process of private and public consultations must show if there are mechanisms and > sufficient will so that the Thin ones of the continent we work in > joint with those of the Caribbean or if, by the opposite, itis necessary to begin a > to work on a split base. > This process already was initiated, Alexander. Private and public consultations. > and that are due to reflect in which LACRALO thinks on the ICANN report > referring to the definition of geographic regions. > > In my vision, a split will be a lamentable result. > > We agreed totally. > SECOND POINT. > > the impact of a split of this nature is ample. We would be > adding us to the reasons and precedents that would give foundation that others > regions also were divided and to that organizations like one were created > region, and a THIN one, for, what will be, North Africa anda part of > The Middle East, Western Asia? > This exactly I said in the previous monthly teleconferencing,the one of January, when I used the word. On the end of the time of debate. I subscribe. > > Although the report in comment does not enter these discussions, the Caribbean > is advancing to the conclusions at which the following one had to arrive > analysis round. > > the cuestionamiento of the Caribbean is serious, I repeat it. And therefore she is one > hard called of attention to LACRALO, beyond the preservation of > statu quo in our own region or a change in the same one. > > Hopefully these lines serve so that Sergio and who it can summon - > INCLUDING COLLEAGUES Of the CARIBBEAN - they make an exposition new who we pruned > to debate and to decide soon. > > Warm greetings. > > Greetings and I am thankful that you have taken time in taking part. AndrÃ©s Piazza > > Alexander Pisanty > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. > > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:43:05 -0300 > > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Geograficas Regions > > > > Welcome Javier! > > Thanks for your contribution and ! commentaries. Such they are considered. * > > * warm Greetings > > > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina AsociaciÃÂ³n > Argentina > > of Users of Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- FederaciÃÂ³n > > Latin American of Users of Internet > > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > MSN/MSN > > YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 > 215819 > > * > > > > > > the 28/01/2011 04:33 p.m., j.karmakiller(a)gmail.com escribiÃÂ³: > > > Dear friends of the list of Mail: > > > > > > > > > is the first time that I participate! I take advantage of to send my greetings a > all. > > > My name is Javier Pallero, of Ageia Densi Argentina. > > > > > > > > > With respect to the document on geogr?ficas regions, ismy humble one > opinion > > > that the criterion that had to be used (but alla to look for one > legitimatio! n > > > in the international uses of the UN or other org! anisms)i s the one of > > > communicational practicidad within organizacion. > > > > > > > > > Because ICANN is an immense structure, with interactions between > > > diverse disciplines of work, organizations, governments, etc > > > nomenclature on Geograficas Regions deberia to be an own one and that > > > facilitates the use and understanding on the part of mayoria of the subjects > > > involved in ICANN. > > > > > > > > > the present one, for example, condice with the effective distribution of > RIRs. > > > Habria that to stand out as is the present use that the actors of ICANN in his > > > diverse activities makes and to unify for that side. > > > > > > > > > the words is noises, and the classifications, categorias > > > communicational. That she is what but people use and she contributes to unify > > > criteria within organizacion, is what preferir?a. > > > > > &g! t; > > > Greetings! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________ Javier PalleroDerecho and > Society > > > of Informaci?n - AGEIA DENSI > > > > > > http://linkedin.com/javierpallero > > > http://javierpallero.tumblr.com > > > > > > sent from * > > > * > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > -- * AndrÃ©s Piazza * www.andrespiazza.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/707a0d532e.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas =
by presidencia＠internauta.org.ar Jan. 29, 2011

Jan. 29, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = From: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Thanks andres, also I asked myself as they are the ALS that they wrote and they participated in this, since I did not saw any participating in the list of discussion of our THIN one. * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Latin American federation of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * The 28/01/2011 09:34 p.m., Andrés Piazza wrote: > Thanks Sergio. > > Creo that that that I expressed could be the regional position in this subject. > > and to leave the commentary of the ALSs of the Caribbean like an appendix > expressed by some ALS. > > Coincido in which I had liked that they showed it to the list > these ALS. And I ask: As they are those that subscribe the Statement. > > Greetings, > > Andrés Piazza > > the 28 of January of 2011 21:30, presidency Argentina Internaut > <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar <mailto:presidencia@internauta.org.ar>> > wrote: > > Dear companions: I agree with the raised thing by Andres, > I thank for the contributions of Carlos Side and Javier. > calls the attention to see Me like the official position of LACRALO one > position nonconcensuada of the "ALS of the Caribbean" that not > bothered in sending a single mail to the list. > > * > Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association > Argentina de Usuarios de ! Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar> > FLUI- Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > <http://www.fuilain.org> > facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: > salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > the 28/01/2011 06:32 p.m., AndrÃ©s Piazza wrote: > > In this subject, after to have analyzed the report, I believe thatno > > is too much to say, aside from valuing that the outstanding by > > the work group, as far as the axes and to the approaches > > conceptual, had to be supported from LACRALO. > > > > Coinciden? > > > > Finally reduces to explain if we are going to give a perspective > > regional on as we valued the distrubiciÃ³n of our own one > > region. Perhaps it deserves to be shaped there the debate initiated by > > the ALSs of the Caribbean. > > > > Nevertheless I believe that it did not have to be necessary, as long as > > we ratify the Rough draft of the W! ork group and make emphasis > > in item 110 of the same one! . > > > > Greetings, > > > > AndrÃ©s Piazza > > > > the 28 of January of 2011 12:23, Carlos Side <cveraq(a)gmail.com > > <mailto:cveraq@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > I contribute 3 cents but that Carlos Aguirre > > > >:) > > > > CVQ > > > > the 28 of January of 2011 08:00, Carlos Side <cveraq(a)gmail.com > > <mailto:cveraq@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > My five cents > > > > > > 1. Criteria are due to have to assure the representation > > balanced. > > > > > > 2. The criteria must assure the inclusiva participation > > > > > > 3. The geographic representation is a valid criterion > > > > > > 4. The definition of the regions present would have to be reviewed. > > Po example, the U.S.A. > > > is a Country and they cannot be added to same the other countries like > > region > > > > > > 5. The originating representation of the regions must > > t! o consider > > > pertinencia of this representation. At the moment it is spoken > > of the criterion of > > > "calls to account" the same one that seems limited > > > > > > Thanks for the work and the consultation. > > > > > > Hugs > > > > > > Carlos Side > > > ISOC Ecuador > > > > > > > > > the 28 of January of 2011 07:21, presidency Internaut > > Argentina < > > > to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > > <mailto:presidencia@internauta.org.ar>> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear companions of the LACRALO: > > > > In today, overcomes the time to make > > commentaries on > > > > provisory report made by the work group on > > Regions > > > > Geogra'ficas (WGRG) where our companion Carlton Samuels > > has been > > > > participating actively. > > > > we do not want to pronounce itself without before listening tocommentaries > ! > on the part of > > > > you with respect to this ! work. > > > > sent links both to Them to unload a file pdf in > > the version of > > > > Ingles language and in the Spanish respectively > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > > > > > > > > > > http://www.icann.org/es/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > > > > > > > > warm Greetings for all > > > > Sergio and Sylvia > > > > > > > > Sergio Saline I carry > > > > > > > > * President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association of > > Usuary of > > > > Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Federation > > Latin American > > > > of Users of Internet > > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto > > > > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > > > > Skype:interna! utaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > -- > > * AndrÃ©s Piazza * > > www.andrespiazza.com <http://www.andrespiazza.com> > > > > > -- > * AndrÃ©s Piazza * > www.andrespiazza.com <http://www.! andrespiazza.com> [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/20d740ea0e.html --]]

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Comments from Caribbean ALSes on the Interim Report of the Geographic Regions Working Group
by Dev Anand Teelucksingh Jan. 29, 2011

Jan. 29, 2011

Please see below the statement from the Caribbean ALSes regarding the Interim Report of the Geographic Regions Review Working Group. Caribbean ALSes comments: The defined geographic region of LACRALO has in the past detracted from ICANN’s goal of reflecting the functional, geographic and cultural diversity of the Caribbean Region of Internet end-users. This is felt at a basic level via participation on the mailing list and voicing opinions on matters; as well as relating to larger issues, such as policy development and voting of ALAC (and other) representatives. ICANN’s Core Values We recognise the Initial Report identified representation, participation and operations as three primary usage categories. Traditionally the Caribbean region has been under represented and little involution has been made to encourage and increase participation. The argument for greater input from the Caribbean region is strengthened by the addition of the concepts of “cultural diversity” and “geographic diversity” to the ICANN Bye Laws in 2002; the Caribbean being a unique segment of LACRALO in both these categories and deserving of such recognition. Indeed ICANN, the corporation, has since 2006 employed and tasked an employee to be the Caribbean liaison. In our view, the mechanism by which ICANN’s core values are applied to RALOs is ill-defined, but we can apply the guidelines of the bye laws which state: “Seeking and supporting broad, informed participation reflecting the functional, geographic, and cultural diversity of the Internet at all levels of policy development and decision-making.” --Fourth Core Value; and Also while Article XI, Section 2, Paragraph 4 which deals with ALAC representatives is silent on this point; we can also apply guidance to enshrine ICANN’s Core Values from: “…composed of members that in the aggregate display diversity in geography, culture, skills, experience, and perspective…” --Article VI Section 2 Diversity We agree in the broader recognition of “diversity” to include additional considerations of culture and language in the LACRALO. The Caribbean is distinct in terms of its history, culture and language; further it has indigenous challenges being small island states and specific needs which are not a natural fit with the rest of Latin America. Due to these differences LACRALO is able to benefit from varying opinions and has the potential to be a truly representative region. One small but important example is the predominant use of English language in the Caribbean Region, however 90% of the mailing list discussion takes place in Spanish. With poor translation tools and the particular nuances between languages; we struggle to understand each other and it becomes almost prohibitively difficult to communicate, follow topic threads collaborate and participate fully. Interpretation between our two regions is currently poor and the result is misunderstanding, frustration, duplicated effort and ultimately lack of participation from our Region; thereby resulting in under-representation of our particular perspectives and points of view. Numbers of Internet users We agree that the only measure of “balance” should not be limited to the number of internet users in a particular sub-region of LACRALO. Balance must tie into and promote diversity. This will only occur if it includes the stakeholder groups in various communities of interest having clear view-points on ICANN’s issues. Often, because of our diversity we see two clear perspectives emerging on issues- on one side from the Latin American Region and on the other from the Caribbean Region. However, since the Caribbean is always in the minority (both in terms of numbers of ALSes and users) our votes, our participation and our opinions have little impact unless an ‘arrangement’ is forged with Latin American representatives in order to push a particular motion (on our behalf). This is crippling to the Caribbean region’s presence in LACRALO on several levels: 1. It diminishes participation of our members, due to lack of morale when our perspective is ignored without any consideration and also due to the level of bureaucracy involved in contributing; and 2. It increases the challenge to recruit new members and ALSes because of this sense of pseudo-involvement, marginalism and non-engagement. As it stands, on many occasions the Caribbean voice in LACRALO is indirectly but effectively diminished. Those not represented We have not had any input from the Caribbean end-user groups in Martinique, Guadeloupe, French Guyana, Curacao, Bonaire, Aruba, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands or British Virgin Islands with regard to their issues with being aligned to their mother country. But we encourage that their opinion be sought out by the Working Group. Striking Balance We have clearly identified these areas as opportunities to create balance and build a more united LACRALO, and are supportive of the GNSO Principle on Potential Change of Regions (August 2008) which states that “ICANN regions should seek to balance three goals: diversity of representation, ease of participation, and simplicity” and such simplicity “should be balanced with the evolving needs of ICANN’s supporting organisations and other bodies.” A Path Forward Today the “C” in LACRALO means “CROSSROADS”. There are several options: 1. Stay We recognise that as a while we do have two different perspectives on many matters, LACRALO as a whole is poised to become stronger and more inclusive by recognising, reviewing and where possible representing both views. In the Caribbean we perceive our differences as strengths, which give us two separate but equally important vantage points to appreciate the whole. As such, we consider that the Latin American Region not only gains from our perspective in conformance with ICANN’s Core Values, but also benefits by our native and dexterous use of English in reading, discussing, presenting arguments and written contribution on behalf of the entire region of LACRALO. At times, we have not felt willingness by our partners to look beyond their blinkers but we are hopeful that they will recognise the importance of building a framework of balance, not only in light of the above but to create unity and cohesion in LACRALO. In order to encourage this step and in consideration of the diversity of representation, ease of participation, and simplicity goals highlighted above, we have proposed a LACRALO Bye Law modification, such that one of the LACRALO Representatives to ALAC come from the Caribbean Region. This remains our preferred option. 2. Seek alignment with NARALO While we have to go back a few centuries to find commonality in our histories, both NARALO and the Caribbean Region share the same language and akin perspectives on many areas, including our view of democracy. These positives give a strong impression that the Caribbean may find a better fit with NARALO in order to contribute and represent. We are fully aware that it is near impossible to find perfect alignment as the Caribbean region has a clear identity and there will always be distinct aspect of our perspective. In this respect the Caribbean region will only add to the diversity and widen the viewpoint of whichever RALO it belongs to; what is crucial is that value be given to that view when it is expressed. 3. New “Small Island Developing State” RALO (SIDSRALO) We recognise that adding a new region to the existing geographic regional framework results in increased costs for ICANN and perhaps reduced net budget for each RALO. Despite this cost issue, we recognise that the Core Values must prevail and there is merit in having a new grouping specific to the needs of Small Island Developing States like ours. Many of the smaller islands in our region are not represented because of limited resources and we agree that ICANN’s structures and processes should lower barriers for participation and engagement by community members as much as practicable. By forming this new grouping we can leverage on our collective skills to support smaller members not only in the Caribbean but globally, who will have almost identical issues. Perhaps the main drawback with a SIDSRALO would be that we would be geographically dispersed and have to travel long distances for face to face meetings such as a General Assembly. 4. Hybrid This is a mix of option 1 or 2 with the additional support of forming a special interest group by small Islands or similar culture groupings. This is a mechanism of gaining the benefits of both worlds and would facilitate that our voices are represented in both ways. However, this would require additional funding to facilitate representation at meetings, calls, working groups etc. of the particular special interest group. Closing Points The Caribbean ALSes consider that the Interim Report of the Geographic Regions Working Group documents the existing situation, highlights the issues arising and connects these to ICANN’s Core Values. We however feel that there must be a much firmer embrace of ICANN Core values in terms of balance, representation, participation. Notwithstanding the differences and issues that exist, the Caribbean has a deep level of fidelity and attachment, and we wish to work and function as an equal partner in LACRALO. In this statement we have highlighted options to provide balanced contributions and acknowledge that the simplest of these can be realised in the immediate sense with a few adjustments to LACRALO Charter. We laud the Working Group, specifically with regard to identifying and detailing the specific needs of Small Island Developing States and will readily endorse such grouping in whatever form. We hope that this step forward is not negated by issues of funding, as the underlying aim of this assessment is to encourage ICANN’s Core Values. We must always seek out, cherish and ensure effective representation.

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas =
by andrespiazza＠gmail.com Jan. 29, 2011

Jan. 29, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = From: andrespiazza(a)gmail.com Thanks Sergio. I believe that that that I expressed could be the regional position inthis subject. And to leave the commentary of the ALSs of the Caribbean like an appendix expressed by some ALS. I agree in which I had liked that they showed to the list these ALS toit. And I ask: As they are those that subscribe the Statement. Greetings, Andrés Piazza The 28 of January of 2011 21:30, presidency Argentina Internaut < to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > wrote: > Dear companions: I agree with the raised thing by Andres, I am thankful > I contribute of Carlos Side and Javier. > calls the attention to see like the official position of the LACRALOa position Me > not concensuada of the "ALS of the Caribbean" that were not bothered in sending > single mail to the list. > > * > > Sergio Saline I carry > President Internauta ArgentinaAsociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar> > FLUI- Latin American Federation of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org> > > facebook:salinasporto > twitter:sergiosalinas > MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > Skype:internautaargentina > Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > the 28/01/2011 06:32 p.m., Andrés Piazza wrote: > > In this subject, after to have analyzed the report, I believe that it does not have > too much to say, aside from valuing that the outstanding by the group of > work, as far as the axes and to the conceptual approaches, had > to be supported from LACRALO. > ! > Coinciden? > > Finally reduces to explain if we are going to give a regional perspective > on as we valued the distrubiciÃ³n of our own region. Perhapsit deserves > to be shaped there the debate initiated by the ALSs of the Caribbean. > > Nevertheless I believe that it did not have to be necessary,as long as > we ratify the Rough draft of the Work group and make emphasis in the item > 110 of the same one. > > Greetings, > > AndrÃ©s Piazza > > the 28 of January of 2011 12:23, Carlos Side <cveraq(a)gmail.com> he wrote: > > > I contribute 3 cents but that Carlos Aguirre > > > >:) > > > > CVQ > > > > the 28 of January of 2011 08:00, Carlos Side <cveraq(a)gmail.com> he wrote: > > > > > My five cents > > > > > > 1. Criteria are due to have to assure the balanced representation. > > > > > > 2. The criteria must assure the inclusiva participation > > > > > > 3. The geographic representation is a valid criterion > > ! > > > > 4. The definition of the regions present woul! d have t o be reviewed. Po example, > > the U.S.A. > > > is a Country and they cannot be added to same the other countries like region > > > > > > 5. The originating representation of the regions must consider > > > pertinencia of this representation. At the moment it is spoken of the criterion > > of > > > "calls to account" the same one that seems limited > > > > > > Thanks for the work and the consultation. > > > > > > Hugs > > > > > > Carlos Side > > > ISOC Ecuador > > > > > > > > > the 28 of January of 2011 07:21, presidency Argentina Internaut < > > > to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear companions of the LACRALO: > > > > In today, overcomes the time to make commentaries on > > > > provisory report made by the work group on Regions > > > > Geogra'ficas (WGRG) where our companion Carlton Samuels has been > >! > > participating actively. > > > > we do not want to pronounce itself without before listening tocommentaries on the part of > > > > you with respect to this work. > > > > sent links both to Them to unload a file pdf in the version of > > > > Ingles language and in the Spanish respectively > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > > > > > > > > > > http://www.icann.org/es/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > > > > > > > > warm Greetings for all > > > > Sergio and Sylvia > > > > > > > > Sergio Saline I carry > > > > > > > > * President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association de Usuarios of > > > > Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Federation > > Latin American > > > > of Use! rs of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto >! > &g t; > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > > > > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > -- > * AndrÃ©s Piazza * > www.andrespiazza.com > > -- * AndrÃ©s Piazza * www.andrespiazza.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/84987dd27b.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas =
by presidencia＠internauta.org.ar Jan. 29, 2011

Jan. 29, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = From: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Dear companions: I agree with the raised thing by Andres, I am thankful the contributions of Carlos Side and Javier. It calls the attention to see me like the official position of LACRALOone position nonconcensuada of the "ALS of the Caribbean" that werenot bothered in to send a single mail to the list. * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Latin American federation of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * The 28/01/2011 06:32 p.m., Andrés Piazza wrote: > In this subject, after to have analyzed the report, I believe that it does not have > too much to say, aside from valuing that the outstanding by the group > of work, as far as the axes and to the conceptual approaches, > had to be supported from LACRALO. > > Coinciden? > > Finally reduces to explain if we are going to give a regional perspective > on as we valued the distrubición of our own region. Perhaps there > deserves to be shaped the debate initiated by the ALSsof the Caribbean. > > Nevertheless I believe that it did not have to be necessary,as long as > we ratify the Rough draft of the Work group and make emphasis in > item 110 of the same one. > > Greetings, > > Andrés Piazza > > the 28 of January of 2011 12:23, Carlos Side <cveraq(a)gmail.com > <mailto:cveraq@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I contribute 3 cents but that Carlos Aguirre > >:) > > CVQ > > the 28 of January of 2011 08:00, Carlos Side <cveraq(a)gmail.com > <mailto:cveraq@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > My five cents > > > > 1. Criteria are due to have to assure the representation > balanced. > > > > 2. The criteria must assure the inclusiva participation > > > > 3. The geographic representation is a valid criterion > > > > 4. The definition of the regions present would have to be reviewed. Po > example, the U.S.A. > > is a Country and they cannot be added to same the other countri! es like region > > > > 5. The originating representation of the regions must consider > > pertinencia of this representation. At the moment it is spoken of > criterion of > > "calls to account" the same one that seems limited > > > > Thanks for the work and the consultation. > > > > Hugs > > > > Carlos Side > > ISOC Ecuador > > > > > > the 28 of January of 2011 07:21, presidency Argentina Internaut < > > to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > <mailto:presidencia@internauta.org.ar>> wrote: > > > > > Dear companions of the LACRALO: > > > In today, overcomes the time to make commentaries > on > > > provisory report made by the work group on Regions > > > Geogra'ficas (WGRG) where our companion Carlton Samuels has > state > > > participating actively. > > > we do not want to pronounce itself without before listening to commentaries by > part of > > > you with respect to this work. > &gt! ; > sent links both to Them to unload a file pdf in > versi! on of > > > Ingles language and in the Spanish respectively > > > > > > > > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > > > > > > > http://www.icann.org/es/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > > > > > > warm Greetings for all > > > Sergio and Sylvia > > > > > > Sergio Saline I carry > > > > > > * President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association of > Usuary of > > > Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Federation > Latin American > > > of Users of Internet > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto > > > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > > > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lis! ts.icann.org > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > -- > * AndrÃ©s Piazza * > www.andrespiazza.com <http://www.andrespiazza.com> [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ef62bfeb5c.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Geograficas Regions
by presidencia＠internauta.org.ar Jan. 28, 2011

Jan. 28, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Geograficas Regions From: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Welcome Javier! Thanks for your contribution and commentaries. Such they are considered. * * Warm greetings * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Latin American federation of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * The 28/01/2011 04:33 p.m., j.karmakiller(a)gmail.com wrote: > Dear friends of the list of Mail: > > > is the first time that I participate! I take advantage of tosend my greetings to all. > My name is Javier Pallero, of Ageia Densi Argentina. > > > With respect to the document on geogr?ficas regions, is my humble opinion that the criterion that had to be used (but alla to look for a legitimation in the uses of the UN or other international organisms) is the one of the communicational practicidad within organizacion. > > > Because ICANN is an immense structure, with interactions between diverse disciplines of work, organizations, governments, etc the nomenclature on Geograficas Regions deberia to be an own one and that facilitates the use and understanding on the part of mayoria of the subjects involved in ICANN. > > > the present one, for example, condice with the effective distribution of the RIRs. Habria that to stand out as is the present use that the actors of ICANN in the! ir diverse activities make and to unify for that side. > > > the words are noises, and the communicational classifications, categorias. That she is what but people use and she contributes to unify criteria within organizacion, is what preferir?a. > > > Greetings! > > > > > _________________________________________ Javier PalleroDerecho and Society of Informaci?n - AGEIA DENSI > > http://linkedin.com/javierpallero > http://javierpallero.tumblr.com > > sent from * > * > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/c7e391ce1a.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas =
by andrespiazza＠gmail.com Jan. 28, 2011

Jan. 28, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = From: andrespiazza(a)gmail.com In this subject, after to have analyzed the report, I believe that there is no too much in order to say, aside from valuing that the outstanding by thework group, in whatever to the axes and the conceptual approaches, had to be supported from LACRALO. They agree? Finally it reduces to explain if we are going to give a regional perspective on as we valued the distrubición of our own region. Perhaps it deserves to be shaped there the debate initiated by the ALSs of the Caribbean. Nevertheless I believe that it did not have to be necessary, as long as we ratify the Rough draft of the Work group and we make emphasis in item110 of the same one. Greetings, Andrés Piazza The 28 of January of 2011 12:23, Carlos Side <cveraq(a)gmail.com> he wrote: > I contribute 3 cents but that Carlos Aguirre > >:) > > CVQ > > the 28 of January of 2011 08:00, Carlos Side <cveraq(a)gmail.com> he wrote: > > > My five cents > > > > 1. Criteria are due to have to assure the balanced representation. > > > > 2. The criteria must assure the inclusiva participation > > > > 3. The geographic representation is a valid criterion > > > > 4. The definition of the regions present would have to be reviewed. Po example, > the U.S.A. > > is a Country and they cannot be added to same the other countries like region > > > > 5. The originating representation of the regions must consider > > pertinencia of this representation. At the moment it is spoken of the criterion of > > "calls to account" the same one that seems limited > > > > Thanks for the work and the consultation. > > > > Hugs > > > > Carlos Side > > ISOC Ecuador > > > > > > the 28 of January of 2011 07:21, presidency Argen! tina Internaut < > > to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > wrote: > > > > > Dear companions of the LACRALO: > > > In today, overcomes the time to make commentaries on > > > provisory report made by the work group on Regions > > > Geogra'ficas (WGRG) where our companion Carlton Samuels has been > > > participating actively. > > > we do not want to pronounce itself without before listening to commentaries on the part of > > > you with respect to this work. > > > sent links both to Them to unload a file pdf in the version of > > > Ingles language and in the Spanish respectively > > > > > > > > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > > > > > > > http://www.icann.org/es/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > > > > > > warm Greetings for all > > > Sergio and Sylvia > > > > > &g! t; Sergio Saline I carry > > > > > > * President I! nternaut a Argentina Argentina Association de Usuarios of > > > Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Latin American Federation > > > of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto > > > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > > > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > -- * AndrÃ©s Piazza * www.andrespiazza.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ab7d2e1e0b.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Geograficas Regions
by j.karmakiller＠gmail.com Jan. 28, 2011

Jan. 28, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Geograficas Regions From: j.karmakiller(a)gmail.com Dear friends of the list of Mail: it is the first time that I participate! I take advantage of to send my greetings to all. My name is Javier Pallero, of Ageia Densi Argentina. With respect to the document on geogr?ficas regions, he is my humble opinion that the criterion that had to be used (but alla to look for alegitimation in the uses of the UN or other international organisms) is the one of the communicational practicidad within organizacion. Because ICANN is an immense structure, with interactions between diverse disciplines of work, organizations, governments, etc the nomenclature on Geograficas Regions deberia to be an own one and that facilitates the use and understanding on the part of mayoria of the subjects involved in ICANN. The present one, for example, condice with the effective distribution of the RIRs. Habria that to stand out as is the present use that the actors of ICANN in their diverse activities make and to unify for thatside. The words are noises, and the communicational classifications, categorias. That she is what but people use and she contributes to unify criteria within organizacion, is what preferir?a. Greetings! _________________________________________ Javier PalleroDerecho and Society of Informaci?n - AGEIA DENSI http://linkedin.com/javierpallero http://javierpallero.tumblr.com sent from * * [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/dff33620a6.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas =
by carlosaguirre62＠hotmail.com Jan. 28, 2011

Jan. 28, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com Carlos: Very funny and ingenious your comment! Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN to former ALAC to member by LACRALO Lawyer - Specialistic in Right of the Businesses Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:25:33 +0000 > From: cveraq(a)gmail.com > To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = > > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = > From: cveraq(a)gmail.com > 3 > Is contribute cents but that Carlos Aguirre > >:) > > CVQ > > The 28 of January of 2011 08:00, Carlos Side <cveraq(a)gmail.com> there am wrote: > > My five cents > > 1. Criteria plows due to have to assure the balanced representation. > > 2. Inclusiva The criteria must assure theparticipation > > 3. The geographic representation is to valid criterion > > 4. The definition of the regions present would have to be reviewed. Po example, the U.S.A. > is to Country and they cannot beadded to same the to other countries like region > > 5. The originating representation of the regions must to consider > pertinencia of this representation. AT the moment it is spoken of the criterion of > "calls to account" the same one that seems limited > > for Thanks the work and the consultation. > > Hugs > > Carlos Side > ISOC Ecuador > > > the 28 of January of 2011 07:21, presidency Argentina Internaut < > to ! presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > wrote: > > > Dear companions of the LACRALO: > > In today, overcomes the Time to make commentaries on > > provisory report made by the workgroup on Regions > > Geogra'ficas (WGRG) where our com! > panion Carlton Samuels you have been > > participating actively. > >we do not want to pronounce itself without before listening to commentaries on the part of > > you with respect to this work. > > sent links both to Them to unload to cases out pdf in the version of >> Ingles language and in the Spanish respectively > > > > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > > > http://www.icann.org/es/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > > > warm for Greetings all > > Sergio and Sylvia > > > > Sergio Saline I carry > > > > * President Interna! ut Argentina Argentina Association de Usuarios of > > In! ternet < http://www.internauta.org.ar>Latin FLUI- American Federation > > of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto > > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 22! > 3 5 215819 * > > > > > > ____________________________! > ________ > ___________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (it is) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/b60c61ddf1.html > --]] > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-in mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-in _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/8fe7e21d09.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas =
by cveraq＠gmail.com Jan. 28, 2011

Jan. 28, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = From: cveraq(a)gmail.com I contribute 3 cents but that Carlos Aguirre :) CVQ The 28 of January of 2011 08:00, Carlos Side <cveraq(a)gmail.com> he wrote: > My five cents > > 1. Criteria are due to have to assure the balanced representation. > > 2. The criteria must assure the inclusiva participation > > 3. The geographic representation is a valid criterion > > 4. The definition of the regions present would have to be reviewed. Po example, the U.S.A. > is a Country and they cannot be added to same the other countries like region > > 5. The originating representation of the regions must consider > pertinencia of this representation. At the moment it is spoken of the criterion of > "calls to account" the same one that seems limited > > Thanks for the work and the consultation. > > Hugs > > Carlos Side > ISOC Ecuador > > > the 28 of January of 2011 07:21, presidency Argentina Internaut < > to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > wrote: > > > Dear companions of the LACRALO: > > In today, overcomes the time to make commentaries on > > provisory report made by the work group on Regions > > Geogra'ficas (WGRG) where our com! panion Carlton Samuels has been > > participating actively. > > we do not want to pronounce itself without before listening to commentaries on the part of > > you with respect to this work. > > sent links both to Them to unload a file pdf in the version of > > Ingles language and in the Spanish respectively > > > > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > > > > http://www.icann.org/es/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > > > > warm Greetings for all > > Sergio and Sylvia > > > > Sergio Saline I carry > > > > * President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association de Usuarios of > > Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Latin American Federation > > of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto > > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 22! 3 5 215819 * > > > > > > ____________________________! ________ ___________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/b60c61ddf1.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas =
by carlosaguirre62＠hotmail.com Jan. 28, 2011

Jan. 28, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com Dear All: If someone want to know about my comment related to the Geo Regions WG doccument. I have to say that is to concious statement but is the first aproximation to the reality. I think dwellsinformation would be useful, and the next round of discussion may be could give dwells makes specific explanation on how will be conduct the changes possible (if it is possible). On the to other side, I guess we need to make dwells outreach about this to matter in order toget in the future dwells participants and dwells ideas into the WG. But of course, to start is neccesary to read this doccuments first, specially our representatives and the ALSs leaders. They, to after that may be for dog give some help the rest of civil society in the region, and help to take to desition on this to matter. my two cents. Again, we need dwells commitment from who represent U.S. (like Carltonin this marries do) making for instance: read the doccuments, participate in the WG to get and give information to whom they represent, try to make to clear and easy doccuments to understand the issue to under discussion by part of the common people, and of course translate any to other information that they obtain into the ALAC committee. thanks to lot and please, could you start to efficient workmaking reality the assumed commitment? Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN to former ALAC to member by LACRALO Lawyer - Specialistic in Right of the Businesses Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:36:14 +0000 > From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com > To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = > > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = > From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com > > > Dear Carlos: We (all of U.S. in the region) agree with this,but: and in relation with the content of the doccument, what do you have to say? > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > NCA GNSO Council - ICANN > to to former ALAC to to member by LACRALO > Lawyer - Specialistic in Right of the Businesses > Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:02:07 +0000 > From: cveraq(a)gmail.com > To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: ! [ lac-discuss-in] =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = > > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = > From: cveraq(a)gmail.com > > My five cents > > 1. Criteria plows due to have to assure the balancedrepresentation. > > 2. Inclusiva The criteria must assure the participation > > 3. The geographic representation is to valid criterion > > 4. The definition of the regions present would have to be reviewed. Po example, the U.S.A. > it is to Country and they cannotbe added to same the to to other countries like region > > 5. The originating representation of the regions must to to consider > pertinencia of this representation. AT the moment it is spoken of the criterion of > "it calls to account" the same one that seems limited! > > > for Thanks the work and the consultation. > > Hugs > > Carlos Side > ISOC Ecuador > > >! The 28 of January of 2011 07:21, presidency Argentina Interna! ut < > to to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > wrote: > > Dear companions of the LACRALO: > In today, overcomes the Time to make commentaries on > provisory report made by the work groupon Regions > Geogra'ficas (WGRG) where our companion Carlton Samuels you have been > participating actively. > we do not want to pronounce itself without before listening to commentaries on the part of > you with respect to this work. > sent links both to Them to unload to you marry out pdf in the version of > Ingles language and in the Spanish respectively > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > http://www.icann.org/es/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > warm for Greetings all > To be! > gio and Sylvia > > Sergio Saline I carry > > * Pre! > sident I > nternaut Argentina Argentina Association de Usuarios of > Internet <http://www.internau! ta.org.ar>Latin FLUI- American Federation of > Usuary of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/M! > SN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 2235 215819 * > > > _______________________________________________> lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (it is) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/def0ee4f9b.html > --]] > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-in mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-in > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (it is) > http://mm.icann! .org/transbot_archive/970bè0889.html > --]] > > > _________! ________ ______________________________ > lac-discuss-in mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-in _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/82622677d5.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas =
by carlosaguirre62＠hotmail.com Jan. 28, 2011

Jan. 28, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com Dear Carlos: We (all of U.S. in the region) agree with this, but: and in relation with the content of the doccument, what do you have to say? Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN to former ALAC to member by LACRALO Lawyer - Specialistic in Right of the Businesses Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:02:07 +0000 > From: cveraq(a)gmail.com > To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > CC: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = > > > [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] > > > Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = > From: cveraq(a)gmail.com > > My five cents > > 1. Criteria plows due to have to assure the balanced representation. > > 2. Inclusiva The criteria must assure the participation > > 3. The geographic representation is to valid criterion > > 4. The definition of the regions present would have to be reviewed. Po example, the U.S.A. > it is to Country and they cannot be added to same the to other countries like region > > 5. The originating representation of the regions must to consider > pertinencia of this representation. AT the moment it is spoken of the criterion of > "it calls to account" the same one that seems limited ! > > for Thanks the work and the consultation. > > Hugs > > Carlos Side > ISOC Ecuador > > > The 28 of January of 2011 07:21, presidency Argentina Internaut < > to to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > wrote: > > Dear companions of the LACRALO: > In today, overcomes the Time to make commentaries on > provisory report made by the work group on Regions > Geogra'ficas (WGRG) where our companion Carlton Samuels you have been > participating actively. > we do not want to pronounce itself without before listening to commentaries on the part of > you with respect to this work. > sent links both to Them to unload to cases out pdf in the version of > Ingles language and in the Spanish respectively > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > http://www.icann.org/es/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > warm for Greetings all > Ser! gio and Sylvia > > Sergio Saline I carry > > * Pre! sident I nternaut Argentina Argentina Association de Usuarios of > Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>Latin FLUI- American Federation of > Usuary of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/M! > SN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > _______________________________________________> lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (it is) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/def0ee4f9b.html > --]] > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-in mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-in _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/970b2e0889.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas =
by cveraq＠gmail.com Jan. 28, 2011

Jan. 28, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = From: cveraq(a)gmail.com My five cents 1. Criteria are due to have to assure the balanced representation. 2. The criteria must assure the inclusiva participation 3. The geographic representation is a valid criterion 4. The definition of the regions present would have to be reviewed. Po example, the U.S.A. it is a Country and they cannot be added to same the other countries like region 5. The originating representation of the regions must consider pertinencia of this representation. At the moment it is spoken of the criterion of "it calls to account" the same one that seems limited Thanks for the work and the consultation. Hugs Carlos Side ISOC Ecuador The 28 of January of 2011 07:21, presidency Argentina Internaut < to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > wrote: > Dear companions of the LACRALO: > In today, overcomes the time to make commentaries on > provisory report made by the work group on Regions > Geogra'ficas (WGRG) where our companion Carlton Samuels has been > participating actively. > we do not want to pronounce itself without before listening to commentaries on the part of > you with respect to this work. > sent links both to Them to unload a file pdf in the version of > Ingles language and in the Spanish respectively > > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > > http://www.icann.org/es/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… > > warm Greetings for all > Sergio and Sylvia > > Sergio Saline I carry > > * President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association de Usuarios of > Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Latin American Federation of > Usuary of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/M! SN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/def0ee4f9b.html --]]

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=?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas =
by presidencia＠internauta.org.ar Jan. 28, 2011

Jan. 28, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Regiones_Geogr=E1ficas = From: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Dear companions of the LACRALO: In today, the time is overcome to make commentaries on provisory report made by the work group on Regions Geographic (WGRG) where our companion Carlton Samuels has been participating actively. We do not want to pronounce itself without before listening to commentaries on the part of you with respect to this work. It sent links both to them to unload a file pdf in the version of Ingles language and in the Spanish respectively http://www.icann.org/en/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… http://www.icann.org/es/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… Warm greetings for all Sergio and Sylvia Sergio Saline I carry * President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association de Usuarios of Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Latin American Federation of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/f80eb156bb.html --]]

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Comments from LACRALO on the Interim Report of the Geographic Regions Working Group due Friday January 28 2011
by Dev Anand Teelucksingh Jan. 27, 2011

Jan. 27, 2011

Dear All The Interim Report of the Geographic Regions Working Group can be read in English and Spanish at http://www.icann.org/en/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… http://www.icann.org/es/topics/geographic-regions/geo-regions-interim-repor… Comments from LACRALO on the Interim Report of the Geographic Regions Working Group can be submitted to ALAC by Friday January 28 2011. The draft ALAC statement, as well as the comments submitted by other RALOs can be found at https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Interim+Report+of+Geographic+Re… Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat

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Call for Volunteers from LACRALO for the Joint DNS Security and Stability Analysis Working Group
by Dev Anand Teelucksingh Jan. 27, 2011

Jan. 27, 2011

Dear All, ALAC has asked for volunteers from all of the RALOs to serve on the Joint DNS Security and Stability Analysis Working Group (DSSA-WG). The ALAC endorsed the Charter of DSSA WG during the ICANN Meeting in Cartagena in December 2010 (the Charter is available on the Joint DSSA WG At-Large Workspace at https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Joint+DSSA+WG+-+At-Large+Worksp… The objective of the DSSA-WG is to: * Examine the level, frequency and severity of threats to the DNS * Review the current efforts and activities intended to mitigate these threats; and * Identify possible gaps in the current security response to DNS issues. If you would like to become an At-Large representative from LACRALO of the DSSA WG, please note that the following membership criteria apply: 1) You should have knowledge or expertise of the objectives of the DSSA WG. 2) You should be prepared to actively participate in the activities of the WG on an on-going and long-term basis. 3) You should be prepared, if required, to sign a Formal Affirmation of Confidentiality and Non-Disclosure paper (see Annex B of the Charter) and/or a Non-Disclosure Agreement. The WG may decide to establish a sub-working group to access confidential or proprietary information. If you are interested in participating in such a sub-working group, you will most likely be required to sign one or both of the aforementioned agreements in order to ensure access to and protection of confidential information. If there is anyone interested in being on this Working Group and meets the requirements, please let the chair or the secretariat know as soon as possible. Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh LACRALO Secretariat

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Matrix FODA
by cveraq＠gmail.com Jan. 25, 2011

Jan. 25, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Matrix FODA From: cveraq(a)gmail.com Account with equal me... Once we have doc we worked on the sameone! Message sent from my terminal BlackBerry® de Porta -----Original Message From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> Sender: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:12:11 To: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Reply-To: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] First FODA Dear Cintra: Very good and positive your contribution, You can encargarte place it in google docs and to warn stops us to begin to work? We are a day old to work in the Matrix! Very good Sera that Alexander also can dedicate a little to him time a Matrix FODA of the LACRALO thus we will be able to have its contribution before to finalize it. Warm greetings * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Latin American federation of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * The 25/01/2011 06:03 p.m., cintra.sooknanan(a)gmail.com wrote: > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Re: Matrix FODA > Of: cintra.sooknanan(a)gmail.com > > Acabo recognizing that the term is Tuesday the 22 of February for some > reason I thought that he was the 22 of January. This gives alot us of the hour to reflect > in our forces, the areas of the improvement, and the areas that we can leverage. > > Immovable would suggest we copy to a document of Google and later we beat > final version in the confluence. But I will take my time to evaluate and to reflect on > on editings. > > Respect > > Arch > > In Tue, 25 of January of 2011 in 4:47 P.M., Sooknanan Arch< > cintra.sooknanan(a)gmail.com > wrote: > > Wanted Sergio, > > also I am having difficulty that corrects this pagination. I can suggest copy to him what > is made already to a document and a part of Google with us so that to be able > > modifiqúese and contributes efficiently > &gt! ; if this does not become on the next hours of the even ones as soon as I will insertmy > recommendations in the rectangle of the commentary in the pagination. > > respect > > Arch > > in Tue, 25 of January of 2011 in 4:27 P.M.,<presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > wrote: > > > > [ [ - - translated text (is ->)--]] of in > >> > > > subject: Re: Matrix FODA > > of: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > > > > Alexander, matrix FODA that we must do it "," I entiendeeso > > that this position in which it is sent is single andwe that begins > > we must finish it, we would look like appropriate me that we pruned to have to > > inside first > > FODA where we put what satisfies us, doing anÃ serious lisis of > > our forces and weaknesses, opportunities and threats. > > I do not understand so that you say "that the truth needs", if aÃºn > > we did not begin to work in he! r *. > >! > * > > hug of A * > > > > s! aline Se rgio I take * > > > > * president Internauta Argentina Argentina Association de Usuarios of > > Internet<http://www.internauta.org.ar>Latin American FederaciÃ³n of FLUI - > > of users of the Internet<http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto > > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > > > > the 25/01/2011 05:05 P.M., Alexander Pisanty escribiÃ³: > Sergio, > > inside > > inglÃ©s... SWOT. > > revisiÃ³n ' the document in traducciÃ³n automÃ tica to > > espaÃ±ol,in Vista > of the alert of Carlos. Alcanzapara to ***reflx mng and > >to understand > sufficient like for the following commentary: > > when> > not indicating like the WEAKNESS the fact that many organizations or > his > > the representatives have a little knowledge of the matter> of > > the taking of t! he d! > iscusiÃ³n and of decisiÃ³n, the document is: > > to cuÃ l l! > to truth > > > necessities > > tÃ little ctico > b., because if that weakness is not indicated, Ã©l > > cannot > try that > takes the care from the strategy generated by the process of > > leaves of operaciÃ³n (planning) estratÃ©gicas. Therefore > is not deducedof combinaciÃ³n > > the activities of the FODA-process of calificaciÃ³n and actualizaciÃ³n, and allÃ ningÃºn > cannot > > propÃ³ngase a budget anyone to finance those activities > > is paid...>>> > Alexander Pisanty > > >.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . . . . >. > >. > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av University. 3000, 04510 xico©MÃ DF xico©MÃ > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * my blog of blog/My: >> http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * you promarry ou! tside of LinkedIn towards: > > http://www.linkedin.com/i! n/pisant y > * Twitter: > > http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to gru! > po UNAM in LinkedIn, > > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã, 106C0C8614<http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/%C3%82106C0C8614>> > * Sees ISOC xico©MÃ, > > http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * participates inside > > ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . . Â > >. . . .>. . . > > > in Tue, the 25 of January 2011 presidency the one of Argentina > > internaut escribiÃ³: > > > date: Tue, The 25 Of January 2011 08:12:57 Of -0300 > > Of: > > internaut of the Argentina of the presidency<presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > > a: > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > subject:[ lacquer-discuss-is ] > > first compaÃ±eros FODA > > > > wanted of the LACRALO:>>en ours lasts > > teleconferencing, tenÃamos the luck of which &! gt; > acompaÃ±amos Olivier > > Crepin our chair of ALAC. In hisparticipaciÃ³n > > asked for > > cowork! > aciÃ³n for the Navy of matrix FODA (or DAFO in > > I! > ngles) > > > that this group of operation of impulse "C" of quÃ© Sylvia > > participates > > and now I am adding myself, I suggest we enter > > equal and we make > > our contributions be able to consider formed > > the forces, opportunities, > > the weaknesses and the threats of ours regiÃ³n, > > this servirÃ n to be able to > > does one: > >. Leaves of operaciÃ³n (planning) estratÃ©gicas; >>. Leaves of operaciÃ³n (planning) operational; and > > > >. Â PlanificaciÃ³n presupuestaria>&gt > >; Â Envio ' conexiÃ³n where estÃ the material in ingles of the language, > > d>&gt > >; pdf in languageespaÃ±ol >>>>> > https://community.icann.org/dis! play/Improve/LACRALO+input+into+WT+C+SWOT+analyses>>>! >> > on the other hand desire to thank for pÃºblico by > > good climate of the colaborativo work > > which we shared yesterday in > > withDev of afternoon, arc and >! > > Carlton in armed of the supply > > of the budget ours > > regiÃ³n,and deseÃ³ to insist on the supply of > > Carlton with > > with respect to battles that lead of exceeds > > use means > > alternative to the Internet (the radio yyo tambiÃ©n we added the TV) to do > > > > known the diverse subjects which we treated in ICANN, sincelike > > > > mayorÃa knows, we in Argentina who we come working already we do > > the aÃ±os > > in this subject and we it knows of thevalue to which > has this to being able > > > sepÃ rese in quÃ© happens massive ICANN. > > a strong hug to all > > > > hot greetings > > > > * saline Sergio I take to president Internauta > Â! > > AsociaciÃ³n Of Argentina > > Argentina > > Internet ofof Users of<http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI - > > > > federaciÃ³n American Latin of users of the Internet > >< > > http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas>> > > MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina > > > > Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 *>>>>> > > >> > > > > > [ [ - - original text (it is) > > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/a'b52d260d.html > > --]]> > > > >> > >_______________________________________________> > list that envÃa lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-in > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm.icann.org/t! ransbot_archive/d06d779aã.html > --]] > > > > >______________! ________ _________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/a263fae5ef.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Matrix FODA
by presidencia＠internauta.org.ar Jan. 25, 2011

Jan. 25, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Matrix FODA From: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Dear Cintra: Very good and positive your contribution, You can encargarte place it in google docs and to warn stops us to begin to work? We are a day old to work in the Matrix! Very good Sera that Alexander also can dedicate a little to him time a Matrix FODA of the LACRALO thus we will be able to have its contribution before to finalize it. Warm greetings * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Latin American federation of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * The 25/01/2011 06:03 p.m., cintra.sooknanan(a)gmail.com wrote: > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > Subject: Re: Matrix FODA > Of: cintra.sooknanan(a)gmail.com > > Acabo recognizing that the term is Tuesday the 22 of February for some > reason I thought that he was the 22 of January. This gives alot us of the hour to reflect > in our forces, the areas of the improvement, and the areas that we can leverage. > > Immovable would suggest we copy to a document of Google and later we beat > final version in the confluence. But I will take my time to evaluate and to reflect on > on editings. > > Respect > > Arch > > In Tue, 25 of January of 2011 in 4:47 P.M., Sooknanan Arch< > cintra.sooknanan(a)gmail.com > wrote: > > Wanted Sergio, > > also I am having difficulty that corrects this pagination. I can suggest copy to him what > is made already to a document and a part of Google with us so that to be able > > modifiqúese and contributes efficiently > &gt! ; if this does not become on the next hours of the even ones as soon as I will insertmy > recommendations in the rectangle of the commentary in the pagination. > > respect > > Arch > > in Tue, 25 of January of 2011 in 4:27 P.M.,<presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > wrote: > > > > [ [ - - translated text (is ->)--]] of in > >> > > > subject: Re: Matrix FODA > > of: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > > > > Alexander, matrix FODA that we must do it "," I entiendeeso > > that this position in which it is sent is single andwe that begins > > we must finish it, we would look like appropriate me that we pruned to have to > > inside first > > FODA where we put what satisfies us, doing anÃ serious lisis of > > our forces and weaknesses, opportunities and threats. > > I do not understand so that you say "that the truth needs", if aÃºn > > we did not begin to work in he! r *. > >! > * > > hug of A * > > > > s! aline Se rgio I take * > > > > * president Internauta Argentina Argentina Association de Usuarios of > > Internet<http://www.internauta.org.ar>Latin American FederaciÃ³n of FLUI - > > of users of the Internet<http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto > > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > > > > the 25/01/2011 05:05 P.M., Alexander Pisanty escribiÃ³: > Sergio, > > inside > > inglÃ©s... SWOT. > > revisiÃ³n ' the document in traducciÃ³n automÃ tica to > > espaÃ±ol,in Vista > of the alert of Carlos. Alcanzapara to ***reflx mng and > >to understand > sufficient like for the following commentary: > > when> > not indicating like the WEAKNESS the fact that many organizations or > his > > the representatives have a little knowledge of the matter> of > > the taking of t! he d! > iscusiÃ³n and of decisiÃ³n, the document is: > > to cuÃ l l! > to truth > > > necessities > > tÃ little ctico > b., because if that weakness is not indicated, Ã©l > > cannot > try that > takes the care from the strategy generated by the process of > > leaves of operaciÃ³n (planning) estratÃ©gicas. Therefore > is not deducedof combinaciÃ³n > > the activities of the FODA-process of calificaciÃ³n and actualizaciÃ³n, and allÃ ningÃºn > cannot > > propÃ³ngase a budget anyone to finance those activities > > is paid...>>> > Alexander Pisanty > > >.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . . . . >. > >. > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av University. 3000, 04510 xico©MÃ DF xico©MÃ > > > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * my blog of blog/My: >> http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * you promarry ou! tside of LinkedIn towards: > > http://www.linkedin.com/i! n/pisant y > * Twitter: > > http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to gru! > po UNAM in LinkedIn, > > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã, 106C0C8614<http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/%C3%82106C0C8614>> > * Sees ISOC xico©MÃ, > > http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * participates inside > > ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . . Â > >. . . .>. . . > > > in Tue, the 25 of January 2011 presidency the one of Argentina > > internaut escribiÃ³: > > > date: Tue, The 25 Of January 2011 08:12:57 Of -0300 > > Of: > > internaut of the Argentina of the presidency<presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > > a: > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > subject:[ lacquer-discuss-is ] > > first compaÃ±eros FODA > > > > wanted of the LACRALO:>>en ours lasts > > teleconferencing, tenÃamos the luck of which &! gt; > acompaÃ±amos Olivier > > Crepin our chair of ALAC. In hisparticipaciÃ³n > > asked for > > cowork! > aciÃ³n for the Navy of matrix FODA (or DAFO in > > I! > ngles) > > > that this group of operation of impulse "C" of quÃ© Sylvia > > participates > > and now I am adding myself, I suggest we enter > > equal and we make > > our contributions be able to consider formed > > the forces, opportunities, > > the weaknesses and the threats of ours regiÃ³n, > > this servirÃ n to be able to > > does one: > >. Leaves of operaciÃ³n (planning) estratÃ©gicas; >>. Leaves of operaciÃ³n (planning) operational; and > > > >. Â PlanificaciÃ³n presupuestaria>&gt > >; Â Envio ' conexiÃ³n where estÃ the material in ingles of the language, > > d>&gt > >; pdf in languageespaÃ±ol >>>>> > https://community.icann.org/dis! play/Improve/LACRALO+input+into+WT+C+SWOT+analyses>>>! >> > on the other hand desire to thank for pÃºblico by > > good climate of the colaborativo work > > which we shared yesterday in > > withDev of afternoon, arc and >! > > Carlton in armed of the supply > > of the budget ours > > regiÃ³n,and deseÃ³ to insist on the supply of > > Carlton with > > with respect to battles that lead of exceeds > > use means > > alternative to the Internet (the radio yyo tambiÃ©n we added the TV) to do > > > > known the diverse subjects which we treated in ICANN, sincelike > > > > mayorÃa knows, we in Argentina who we come working already we do > > the aÃ±os > > in this subject and we it knows of thevalue to which > has this to being able > > > sepÃ rese in quÃ© happens massive ICANN. > > a strong hug to all > > > > hot greetings > > > > * saline Sergio I take to president Internauta > Â! > > AsociaciÃ³n Of Argentina > > Argentina > > Internet ofof Users of<http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI - > > > > federaciÃ³n American Latin of users of the Internet > >< > > http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas>> > > MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina > > > > Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 *>>>>> > > >> > > > > > [ [ - - original text (it is) > > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/a'b52d260d.html > > --]]> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________> > list that envÃa lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in > > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-in > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm.icann.org! /transbot_archive/d06d779aã.html > --]] > > > > > ___________! ________ ____________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/1250295e33.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Matrix FODA
by presidencia＠internauta.org.ar Jan. 25, 2011

Jan. 25, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Matrix FODA From: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Alexander, matrix FODA we must do it "," I understand that that this position in which is sent is single the beginning andwe we must complete it, would seem to me appropriate that we pruned to have a matrix FODA in where we put what it pleases to us, making an analysis serious of our strengths and weaknesses, opportunities and threats. I do not understand so that you say "that the truth needs", if still no we began to work in her *. * A hug * Sergio Saline I carry * * President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association de Usuarios of Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Latin American Federation of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * The 25/01/2011 05:05 p.m., Alexander Pisanty wrote: > Sergio, > > in English... SWOT. > > Revise' the document in the automatic translation to the Spanish, in Vista > of the warning of Carlos. It is reached to read and to understand > sufficient like for the following commentary: > > When not indicating like WEAKNESS the fact that many organizations or > their representatives have an insufficient knowledge of the matter > of discussion and decision making, the document is: > > to which the truth needs little tactical > b., because if that weakness is not indicated, not it can > to try that it takes care of the strategy generated by the process of > strategic planning. Therefore they are not deduced of the combination > FODA-process activities of qualification and update, and there no > cannot be proposed a budget either to finance those activities. > > is paid... > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ! . . . . >. . . > > > On Tue, 25 Jan 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:12:57 -0300 > > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] First FODA > > > > Dear companions of the LACRALO: > > In our last teleconferencing, we had the luck of which us > > accompanied Olivier Crepin our Chair by ALAC. In its participation > > requested collaboration for the armed one of Matrix FODA (or DAFO in > > Ingles) that this impelling working group "C" of which Sylvia > > participates and I am adding myself now, I suggest we enter to > > same and we make our contributions to be able to see shaped > > strengths, opportunities, weaknesses and threats of our region, > > this will serve to be able to make one: > >. Strategic planning; > >. Operational planning; and > >. Budgetary planning. > &gt! ; Envio' the Link where is the material in language ingles, an! d > &gt ; pdf in Spanish language. > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/LACRALO+input+into+WT+C+SWOT+an… > > > > > > On the other hand I want to publicly thank for the good climate of work > > colaborativo which we shared yesterday in the evening withDev, Arch and > > Carlton in the armed one of the proposal of budget of ours > > region, and wanted to insist on the proposal of Carlton with > > with respect to conducting battles of Outreach from the means use > > alternative to Internet (Radio and I also add TV) to do > > known the different topics that we treated in ICANN, sincelike > > majority knows, we in Argentina we come working already does > > years in this subject and we know of the value that has this to be able > > to spread what happens massively in ICANN. > > a strong hug to all > > Warm Greetings > > > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association > > Argentina! de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > > Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > > MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina > > Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/3ab52d260d.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Matrix FODA
by apisan＠servidor.unam.mx Jan. 25, 2011

Jan. 25, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Matrix FODA From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx Sergio, in English... SWOT. I reviewed the document in the automatic translation to the Spanish, in view of warning of Carlos. It is reached to read and to understand the sufficient thing like for the following commentary: When not indicating like WEAKNESS the fact that many organizations or his representatives have an insufficient knowledge of the matter of discussion and of decision making, the document is: to which the truth needs little tactical b., because if that weakness is not indicated,it is not possible to be tried that it takes care of the strategy generated by the planning process strategic. Therefore they are not deduced of the combination FODA-process activities of qualification and update, and there not can to propose a budget either to finance those activities. It is paid... Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Tue, 25 Jan 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote: > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:12:57 -0300 > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] First FODA > > Dear companions of the LACRALO: > In our last teleconferencing, we had the luck by which it accompanied to us > Olivier Crepin our Chair of ALAC. In his participation it requested collaboration > for the armed one of Matrix FODA (or DAFO in Ingles) that this impelling > working group "C" of which Sylvia participates and I I am adding now, > I suggest we enter to the same one and we make our contributions to be able to see > shaped the strengths, opportunities, weaknesses and threats of ours > region, this will serve to be able to make one: >. Strategic planning; >. Operational planning; and >. Budgetary planning. > Envio' the Link where is the material in language ingles, and a pdf in > Spanish language. > > https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/LACRALO+input+into! +WT+C+SWOT+analyses > > On the other hand I want to publicly thank for the good climate of work > colaborativo that we shared yesterday in the evening with Dev, Cintra and Carlton in > the armed one of the budget proposal of our region, and wanted to do > emphasis in the proposal of Carlton with respect to conducting battles of > Outreach from the alternative means use to Internet (Radio and I > also adds TV) to make the different topics well-known that we treated > in ICANN, since as the majority knows, we in Argentina come > working already for years in this subject and we have been knowing of the value that has this > of being able to spread what happens massively in ICANN. > a strong hug to all > Warm Greetings > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association of > Usuary of Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Federation > Latin American of Users of Internet > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergio! salinas MSN/MSN > YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internaut! aargenti na Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 > * > > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/2d37f4266d.html --]]

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LACRALO Budget Proposals
by Cintra Sooknanan Jan. 25, 2011

Jan. 25, 2011

Dear All, Please see both links attached which provide a general overview, as well as detailed spreadsheets of our proposed activities. Please let me know if these links are broken. https://docs0.google.com/document/d/1JIDLkQh3GNO1GZE9oC6Uohke87CCgf-TgWMbiu… https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Agb5mu5Ukb2vdGNiTWd5WUVfYXVDQ3JWSk… Special thanks to Dev Anand, Sergio, Carlton, Andres and Jacqueline and all others for their input and help. Matthias has promised to post the documents on the ALAC webpage in time for the deadline today. Enjoy your day Cintra Sooknanan

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Fwd: A Small Island States ALS - and their position in APRALO
by Carlton Samuels Jan. 25, 2011

Jan. 25, 2011

Views from the Pacific that might resonate in LACRALO, especially with the Caribbean ALS. Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround ============================= ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <apac-discuss-request(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 3:44 AM Subject: APAC-Discuss Digest, Vol 50, Issue 12 To: apac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Today's Topics: 1. Re: pacific propsoal for a spearate Small Island Grouping (Hong Xue) 2. Regional Advice on APRALO ALS Application (ICANN At-Large Staff) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:40:12 +0800 From: Hong Xue <hongxueipr(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [APAC-Discuss] pacific propsoal for a spearate Small Island Grouping To: William Tibben <wjt(a)uow.edu.au> Cc: "apac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" <apac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <AANLkTikiQY9hYDPVJKsYCHQCnn9i8LaQYMx19kkP3u9C(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Thank you, Will, for kindly posting this important think piece to the list, which is just timely for ICANN Geo. Region Review. Also thanks to Ms. Maureen Hilyard. We do see your concerns: "The Pacific islands are frequently grouped with Asia ? within which it has no historical affiliation and where the needs are so different that the Pacific interests are often not considered when there is any representation required." Hong On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:57 PM, William Tibben <wjt(a)uow.edu.au> wrote: > > As discussed in the APRALO teleconference, attached is the proposal by > Maureen Hilyard for a Small Island Developing States (SIDS) ALS. SO I > appreciate if it could be incorporated in the APRALO response to the > Geographic Regions Review Working Group > > Regards > > Will Tibben--- > _______________________________________________ > APAC-Discuss mailing list

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Matrix FODA
by cveraq＠gmail.com Jan. 25, 2011

Jan. 25, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Matrix FODA From: cveraq(a)gmail.com Enter to the pagina to contribute but when subscribing it leaves east message This installation of Confluence is not Seth up to permit publicsignup. Please contact the site administrators<https://community.icann.org/administrators.action>for information dwells. Some suggestion? Carlos Side ISOC Ecuador The 25 of January of 2011 06:12, presidency Argentina Internaut < to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > wrote: > Dear companions of the LACRALO: > In our last teleconferencing, we had the luck by which it accompanied to us > Olivier Crepin our Chair of ALAC. In his participation it requested collaboration > for the armed one of Matrix FODA (or DAFO in Ingles) that this impelling > working group "C" of which Sylvia participates and I I am adding now, > I suggest we enter to the same one and we make our contributions to be able to see > shaped the strengths, opportunities, weaknesses and threats of ours > region, this will serve to be able to make one: >. Strategic planning; >. Operational planning; and >. Budgetary planning. > Envio' the Link where is the material in language ingles, and a pdf in > Spanish language. > > > https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/LACRALO+input+into+WT+C+SWOT+an… > > On the other hand I want to publicly thank for the good climate of work > colaborativo that we shared yesterday in the evening with Dev, Cintra and Carlton in > the armed one of the! budget proposal of our region, and wanted to do > emphasis in the proposal of Carlton with respect to conducting battles of > Outreach from the alternative means use to Internet (Radio and I > also adds TV) to make the different topics well-known that we treated > in ICANN, since as the majority knows, we in Argentina come > working already for years in this subject and we have been knowing of the value that has this > of being able to spread what happens massively in ICANN. > a strong hug to all > Warm Greetings > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association > of Users of Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Federation > Latin American of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.ican! n.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-d! iscuss-i s > > http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/43bb8e1df2.html --]]

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Matrix FODA
by presidencia＠internauta.org.ar Jan. 25, 2011

Jan. 25, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Matrix FODA From: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Dear companions of the LACRALO: In our last teleconferencing, we had the luck of which us our Chair accompanied Olivier Crepin by ALAC. In its participation it requested collaboration for the armed one of Matrix FODA (orDAFO in Ingles) that this impelling working group "C" of which Sylvia participates and I I am adding myself now, I suggest we enter to the same one and we do our contributions to be able to see shaped the strengths, opportunities, weaknesses and threats of our region, this will serve to be able to make one: . Strategic planning; . Operational planning; and . Budgetary planning. It sent the Link where is the material in language ingles, and a pdf in Spanish language. https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/LACRALO+input+into+WT+C+SWOT+an… On the other hand I want to publicly thank for the good climate of work colaborativo that we shared yesterday in the evening with Dev,Cintra and Carlton in the armed one of the budget proposal of our region, and it wanted to insist on the proposal of Carlton with respect to to conduct battles of Outreach from the alternative means use a Internet (Radio and I also add TV) to make well-known different topics that we treated in ICANN, since as the majority knows, we in Argentina have been coming working already for years in this subject and we know of the value that has this to be able to spread what happens in ICANN massively. A strong hug to all Warm Greetings * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Latin American federation of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/27ea0d092d.html --]]

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NOW ONLINE: Updated At-Large Organisational Chart
by ICANN At-Large Staff Jan. 25, 2011

Jan. 25, 2011

Dear All, The updated At-Large Organisational diagram is now available at: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/orgchart The chart has been updated for the following two reasons: * To include the At-Large selected Board member in the diagram * To align the geographical color scheme with the RALO regions -- Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-White, Marilyn Vernon, Kristina Nordström ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org website: www.atlarge.icann.org

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] participation & engagement
by carlos dionisio aguirre Jan. 24, 2011

Jan. 24, 2011

Dear Cintra: Totally Agree with you. Im also disappointed with who, consent this attitudes and, allow the situation continue. Im clearly against to whom take adavantages without deserve them. Best Regards. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:40:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] participation & engagement From: cintra.sooknanan(a)gmail.com To: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com; lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Indeed Carlos, you are entitled to your opinion and I want you to know that my arguments are not at all personal. But it is disappointing to judge, dismiss and belittle ALSes or their representatives for not participating as frequently or for as long a duration as others. We are all equals and should be able to contribute without ridicule or finger pointing of how much (or how little) was done in the past. As lawyers we can both understand and relate to this- in the eyes of the Bar we are all treated as equals despite the difference of number of years we were called. This kindof attitude only serves to turn-off those who may want to participate but for whatever reasons have not felt able or comfortable to do so. Indeed I have not been as active before, but there are reasons to that. Unfortunately if I am called out like this, these reasons will never be known. Not because I do not want to share them, but because it comes across as if these reasons do not matter and judgments of my participation in the past have already made. If I feel this way-- that I am being judged when I am presently participating and giving of my energies and time to LACRALO, then can you imagine how despondent ALSes and their representatives who have not traditionally participated will feel? We need to recognise that you or I are not the big losers of this attitude, but LACRALO as a whole! Nobody can doubt your role and contribution in LACRALO, but because you have been able to lead does not mean that we should look down on others. We are a talented region and we must seek out and encourage that talent. I am happy and grateful the present LACRALO leadership sees this and are making positive steps to build participation and unity. Rather than us crying over the past and singing our own glories for having done more. Frankly, we need to build a LACRALO that is bigger and better than one or two personalities, but is the summation of all our talents and assets. Kind regards Cintra Sooknanan On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:55 AM, carlos dionisio aguirre <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Dear Cintra. Sorry, but I don`t think so. You are participating in a actively (and visible) way no more than 6 months, I haven`t heard of you never before. My feelings are very strong against of who decide not participate, but nevertheless in determinated moments they make opinions about everything. If You want participate in LACRALO now (like you for instance), have all possibilities trough differents sites with information, translation and opportunities for all in differents fields of participation. Others who wants not participate, like some ALS leaders (with name and surnames), they make speaches without content. The participation and engagement is a feeling, if you want today, you can. On the other side, only a few of the actives ALSs, are making in their countries, activities related with ICANN and outreach. Others make ..... (I don`t Know... or directly nothing). I repeat, the ICANN enviroment to participate is a reality, now. The people Who want to know how participate, today they can. For all of that, we must to stop with the rethoric and make the good policy work a reality and a good common practice. You know, some of us (LACRALO LEADERS) are very engaged in ICANN Activities, others are flying in the "ubeda clouds". We need the first ones and no waste the budget with the second ones, except they decide to incorporate to the ICANN real and hard work effectively. The work of LACRALO is running, but unfortunately we have phantom actors that we need eliminate (in the good sense of the word). We need to be strict, the circumstances are asking for that. For that, also, we need to be sincere and honest, so: If you do not want to participate actively (for all who don´t), please come back home and leave the others work, do not waste time and do not interfere with the region development. At Large community, is seeing what LACRALO is doing, and we need to show our best, not our misery. my two cents.Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:49:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?AHORA_EN_LINEA=Á_Hojas_de_Inform = =?iso-8859-1?q?aci=F3n_sobre_las_ALSs_del_LACRALO = From: cintra.sooknanan(a)gmail.com To: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com; lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org I understand your sentiment Carlos. It is important that we not judge the ALSes but rather create an environment which can facilitate their easy and comfortable participation. Regards Cintra Sooknanan 2011/1/24 carlos dionisio aguirre <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> Dear All: In a first view: Over 36 ALSs, I can see 19 (dead) no actives. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:36:16 +0000 From: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?AHORA_EN_LINEA=Á_Hojas_de_Inform = =?iso-8859-1?q?aci=F3n_sobre_las_ALSs_del_LACRALO = [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?AHORA_EN_LINEA=Á_Hojas_de_Inform = =?iso-8859-1?q?aci=F3n_sobre_las_ALSs_del_LACRALO = From: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Considered, The leaves of information on the ALSs of the LACRALO already are available in the page Web of AT-Large: Spanish: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/es/lacralo/cartagena-outreach/lacralo-members-e s.htm English: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/lacralo/cartagena-outreach/lacralo-members.htm He requested himself to the ALSs that wrote up a page introducing his organizations to the participants of the LACRALO Showcase in Cartagena. In some cases, if the text were too long, the work group of Showcase published the information leaves slightly. In case that the ALS it did not send a document, the work group produced the leaf of information a traverse of the information available in the page Web of the ALS. Sincerely, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-White, Marilyn Vernon, Kristina Nordström ICANN AT-Large Staff email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org website: www.atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/bfc875f956.html --]] _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] FY12 Budget Template - and LACRALO Priorities
by Carlton Samuels Jan. 24, 2011

Jan. 24, 2011

LACRALO must, yet again, encourage ICANN to understand and embrace the value that participants in other regional ICANN-related Internet Governance matters will bring to ICANN it self; collaboration delivers intrinsic value to a bottom-up multi-stakeholder policy development vision that ICANN is allegedly about. So, again, we should budget for LACRALO leaders to attend and participate in LACNIC and LACTLD events. We must budget for the promised support for LACRALO GA when ICANN is meeting in the region. And we must make sure the budget an plans always cover production of iCANN issues in ways that are easily digestible for the common user; radio productions must be part of this! And don't forget continuation of the "dummy" series of publications! Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround ============================= On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:00 AM, <cintra.sooknanan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > FY12 Budget Template<https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Agb5mu5Ukb2vdGNiTWd5WUVfYXVDQ3JWSk…> > Message from cintra.sooknanan(a)gmail.com: > > I know this is a bit late, but perhaps we can review this sometime this evening (maybe at 22.00UTC?). > > The areas that need attention are in green, more details to be included for the strategic plan impact sections and splitting up the table once formalised for each separate year. > > Please email me at cintra.sooknanan(a)gmail.com if you have queries/comments. > > Thanks > > Cintra > > > Click to open: > > - FY12 Budget Template<https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Agb5mu5Ukb2vdGNiTWd5WUVfYXVDQ3JWSk…> > > > Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents, > spreadsheets and presentations. > [image: Logo for Google Docs] <http://docs.google.com> >

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participation & engagement
by carlos dionisio aguirre Jan. 24, 2011

Jan. 24, 2011

Dear Cintra. Sorry, but I don`t think so. You are participating in a actively (and visible) way no more than 6 months, I haven`t heard of you never before. My feelings are very strong against of who decide not participate, but nevertheless in determinated moments they make opinions about everything. If You want participate in LACRALO now (like you for instance), have all possibilities trough differents sites with information, translation and opportunities for all in differents fields of participation. Others who wants not participate, like some ALS leaders (with name and surnames), they make speaches without content. The participation and engagement is a feeling, if you want today, you can. On the other side, only a few of the actives ALSs, are making in their countries, activities related with ICANN and outreach. Others make ..... (I don`t Know... or directly nothing). I repeat, the ICANN enviroment to participate is a reality, now. The people Who want to know how participate, today they can. For all of that, we must to stop with the rethoric and make the good policy work a reality and a good common practice. You know, some of us (LACRALO LEADERS) are very engaged in ICANN Activities, others are flying in the "ubeda clouds". We need the first ones and no waste the budget with the second ones, except they decide to incorporate to the ICANN real and hard work effectively. The work of LACRALO is running, but unfortunately we have phantom actors that we need eliminate (in the good sense of the word). We need to be strict, the circumstances are asking for that. For that, also, we need to be sincere and honest, so: If you do not want to participate actively (for all who don´t), please come back home and leave the others work, do not waste time and do not interfere with the region development. At Large community, is seeing what LACRALO is doing, and we need to show our best, not our misery. my two cents.Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:49:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] =?iso-8859-1?q?AHORA_EN_LINEA=Á_Hojas_de_Inform = =?iso-8859-1?q?aci=F3n_sobre_las_ALSs_del_LACRALO = From: cintra.sooknanan(a)gmail.com To: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com; lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org I understand your sentiment Carlos. It is important that we not judge the ALSes but rather create an environment which can facilitate their easy and comfortable participation. Regards Cintra Sooknanan 2011/1/24 carlos dionisio aguirre <carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com> Dear All: In a first view: Over 36 ALSs, I can see 19 (dead) no actives. Carlos Dionisio Aguirre NCA GNSO Council - ICANN former ALAC member by LACRALO Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423 http://ar.ageiadensi.org Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:36:16 +0000 From: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?AHORA_EN_LINEA=Á_Hojas_de_Inform = =?iso-8859-1?q?aci=F3n_sobre_las_ALSs_del_LACRALO = [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?AHORA_EN_LINEA=Á_Hojas_de_Inform = =?iso-8859-1?q?aci=F3n_sobre_las_ALSs_del_LACRALO = From: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Considered, The leaves of information on the ALSs of the LACRALO already are available in the page Web of AT-Large: Spanish: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/es/lacralo/cartagena-outreach/lacralo-members-e s.htm English: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/lacralo/cartagena-outreach/lacralo-members.htm He requested himself to the ALSs that wrote up a page introducing his organizations to the participants of the LACRALO Showcase in Cartagena. In some cases, if the text were too long, the work group of Showcase published the information leaves slightly. In case that the ALS it did not send a document, the work group produced the leaf of information a traverse of the information available in the page Web of the ALS. Sincerely, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-White, Marilyn Vernon, Kristina Nordström ICANN AT-Large Staff email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org website: www.atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/bfc875f956.html --]] _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en

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=?iso-8859-1?q?AHORA_EN_LINEA=�_Hojas_de_Inform = =?iso-8859-1?q?aci=F3n_sobre_las_ALSs_del_LACRALO =
by staff＠atlarge.icann.org Jan. 24, 2011

Jan. 24, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?AHORA_EN_LINEA=Á_Hojas_de_Inform = =?iso-8859-1?q?aci=F3n_sobre_las_ALSs_del_LACRALO = From: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Considered, The leaves of information on the ALSs of the LACRALO already are available in the page Web of AT-Large: Spanish: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/es/lacralo/cartagena-outreach/lacralo-members-e s.htm English: http://www.atlarge.icann.org/lacralo/cartagena-outreach/lacralo-members.htm He requested himself to the ALSs that wrote up a page introducing his organizations to the participants of the LACRALO Showcase in Cartagena. In some cases, if the text were too long, the work group of Showcase published the information leaves slightly. In case that the ALS it did not send a document, the work group produced the leaf of information a traverse of the information available in the page Web of the ALS. Sincerely, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-White, Marilyn Vernon, Kristina Nordström ICANN AT-Large Staff email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org website: www.atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/bfc875f956.html --]]

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Geographic Regions WG Information
by Carlton Samuels Jan. 22, 2011

Jan. 22, 2011

Please go to https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Interim+Report+of+Geographic+Re… for background material, including the latest from Cartagena. Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround =============================

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ICANN's Board and GAC to Meet on New gTLDs on 28 February and 1 March 2011
by Dev Anand Teelucksingh Jan. 22, 2011

Jan. 22, 2011

Via : http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-21jan11-en.htm : "During the recent ICANN meeting in Cartagena, the ICANN Board of Directors and Governmental Advisory Committee agreed to meet at some time prior to the upcoming Silicon Valley/San Francisco meeting in order to devote significant time in the interest of resolving the outstanding issues the GAC has identified with the new gTLD process. Planning for that meeting has occurred and the Board and the GAC have agreed to meet on 28 February and 1 March 2011, in Brussels, at the Square Brussels Meeting Centre, Mont des Arts – Kunstberg, Brussels. The purpose of the meeting is to: 1. Identify the specific differences between Governmental Advisory Committee ("GAC") advice and the current implementation of the GNSO New gTLD Policy recommendations embodied in the Applicant Guidebook. 2. Through discussion among Board and GAC members, either: a. arrive at an agreed upon resolution of those differences, or b. for those issues not resolved, identify what differences remain. This meeting is not intended to address the requirements/steps outlined in the Bylaws mandated Board-GAC consultation process The meeting will be open, scribed and streamed live over the Internet. Only GAC members, ICANN Board members, select ICANN staff members and subject matter experts will participate in the discussion, whether in person or remotely. It will be possible for interested parties to attend and observe proceedings. Remote participation facilities will also be made available. ----- Dev T

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Asuntos abiertos a Comentario P = =?iso-8859-1?q FAblico =
by apisan＠servidor.unam.mx Jan. 22, 2011

Jan. 22, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Asuntos_abiertos_a_Comentario_P = =?iso-8859-1?q?=FAblico = From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx Fátima, thousand thanks to attract the attention of the community theseprocesses of public commentary. Between the organizacionales (not unavoidably nouns) I believe that we would have to take care of the one of the formation and registry of a new one "constituency" of the GNSO, a headed noncommercial group in itsinitiative by the Red Cross. He is very recommendable to read respective documents then they have impact in which they represent our own organizations. One of the points of greater interest is than it is manfiestamente an attempt of to give the return to the invariable control that a group conserves in NCUC-NCSG, which seems to me desirable. The request gives for more discussion. Hopefully one began soon in our forums. On the other hand, in the subject of names of dominion of only a character that it was discussed between us days ago, becomes excellent article in http://domainincite.com/what-or-Co-says-about-new-tlds/ on O.com, the name of dominion monocharacter at second level thatfinishes of to buy the Overstock.com company, main proponente of the dominions of a single letter at level TLD (looking for o) along with Yahoo!(that it looks for y). The article shows the contradictions in which the companies can fall and their lobbyists of a way who I create are on the awares for our own ones considerations. And by the way, I believe that this as well returns to put the light on necessity that all the participants of this community whom they have I interest economic direct in the market of dominion names give them to know. Some of You could be analyzing opportunities of business new, or cancelled, with this news. Nobody would propose automatically to exclude from the discussions but all to them we would have right to knowing if only it moves a principle position or it could to have also an interest that slanted its participation. Also he is necessary, in agreement we think in these subjects that they have high economic impact and a high impact also in the structure and evolution of the DNS, that we are clear of independence, dependency or interdependence of the organizations to know that a vote is only vote, even when we did not vote. I summon to our leaders and elect representatives to approach as soon as possible this subject. Separately let us return in post office to treat the other subjects that are put under consultation. Warm greetings. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Ã106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Fatima Cambronero wrote: > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 18:33:10 -0300 > From: Fatima Cambronero <fatimacambronero(a)gmail.com> > To: "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, > LAC DISCUSS <lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] Subjects opened to Public Commentary > > Considered, > > > Comparto with you the list of subjects submissive Public Commentary. > Some win today; others we are working them from LACRALO; and others > commented in the teleconferencing of yesterday. > > > Like always, those contributions that we pruned to make, as much for a reason or purpose > individual like of our ALSs, is important to be able to makelisten > our voices and the vision of our region. > > > warm Greetings, > > > > Fatima Cambronero > > > * * > > * 1) Interim Paper Inclusion of IDN ccTLD's in the ccNSO * > > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-cctld-ccnso > > Cierra: 21 of January of 2011. > > > * 2) Proposed Changes to Enhance IC! ANN's Registrar Accreditation Evaluation > Process * > > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#registrar-accredit-eval > > Cierra: 21 of January of 2011. > > > * 3) Permanent Charter of GNSÃs Commercial Stakeholder Group Completed - > Public Comment Invited * > > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#csg-permanent-charter > > Cierra: 23 of January of 2011. > > > * 4) TLG Review - Final Report * > > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#tlg-end-report > > Cierra: 24 of January of 2011. > > > * 5) Draft 2011-2014 Strategic Plan * > > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#draft-strat-2011 > > Cierra: 25 of January of 2011. > > > * 6) Interim Report of Geographic Regions Review Working Group * > > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#geo-regions-interim-report > > Cierra: 30 of January of 2011. > > > * 7) New Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency Petition and > Charter * > > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#npoc-petition-charter > > Cierra: 30 of J! anuary of 2011. > > > > * 8) Review of IDN ccTLD Fast Track Pr! ocess * > > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#fast-track-review-2010 > > Cierra: 31 of January of 2011. > > > > * 9) GNSO Working Group Guidelines * > > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#gnso-wg-guidelines > > Cierra: 08 of February of 2011. > > > > * 10) Accountability & Transparency Review Final Team Recommendations * > > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#atrt-end > > Cierra: 14 of February of 2011. > > > > * 11) Interim Report of the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group > * > > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#ird > > Cierra: 14 of March of 2011. > > > > Source: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/ > > > -- > * FÃ¡tima Cambronero * > Lawyer-Argentina > President Ageia Densi > http://ar.ageiadensi.org/ > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/6fadb4d5a3.html --]]

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Asuntos abiertos a Comentario Público
by Fatima Cambronero Jan. 22, 2011

Jan. 22, 2011

Estimados, Comparto con ustedes la lista de asuntos sometidos a Comentario Público. Algunos vencen hoy; otros los estamos trabajando desde LACRALO; y otros se comentaron en la teleconferencia de ayer. Como siempre, aquellos aportes que podamos realizar, tanto a título individual como de nuestras ALSs, son importantes para poder hacer escuchar nuestras voces y la visión de nuestra región. Saludos cordiales, Fatima Cambronero * * *1) Interim Paper Inclusion of IDN ccTLD's in the ccNSO* http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-cctld-ccnso Cierra: 21 de Enero de 2011. *2) Proposed Changes to Enhance ICANN's Registrar Accreditation Evaluation Process* http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#registrar-accredit-eval Cierra: 21 de Enero de 2011. *3) Permanent Charter of GNSO's Commercial Stakeholder Group Completed – Public Comment Invited* http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#csg-permanent-charter Cierra: 23 de Enero de 2011. *4) TLG Review – Final Report* http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#tlg-final-report Cierra: 24 de Enero de 2011. *5) Draft 2011-2014 Strategic Plan* http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#draft-strat-2011 Cierra: 25 de Enero de 2011. *6) Interim Report of Geographic Regions Review Working Group* http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#geo-regions-interim-report Cierra: 30 de Enero de 2011. *7) New Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency Petition and Charter* http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#npoc-petition-charter Cierra: 30 de Enero de 2011. *8) Review of IDN ccTLD Fast Track Process* http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#fast-track-review-2010 Cierra: 31 de Enero de 2011. *9) GNSO Working Group Guidelines* http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#gnso-wg-guidelines Cierra: 08 de Febrero de 2011. *10) Accountability & Transparency Review Team Final Recommendations* http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#atrt-final Cierra: 14 de Febrero de 2011. *11) Interim Report of the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group * http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#ird Cierra: 14 de Marzo de 2011. Fuente: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/ -- *Fátima Cambronero* Abogada-Argentina Presidenta Ageia Densi http://ar.ageiadensi.org/

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Asuntos abiertos a Comentario P = =?iso-8859-1?q FAblico =
by fatimacambronero＠gmail.com Jan. 21, 2011

Jan. 21, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Asuntos_abiertos_a_Comentario_P = =?iso-8859-1?q?=FAblico = From: fatimacambronero(a)gmail.com Considered, I share with you the list of subjects submissive Public Commentary. Some win today; others we are working them from LACRALO; and others they commented in the teleconferencing of yesterday. Like always, those contributions that we pruned to make, as much for areason or purpose individual like of our ALSs, they are important to be able to make listen our voices and the vision of our region. Warm greetings, Fatima Cambronero * * * 1) Interim Paper Inclusion of IDN ccTLD's in the ccNSO * http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#idn-cctld-ccnso It closes: 21 of January of 2011. * 2) Proposed Changes to Enhance ICANN's Registrar Accreditation Evaluation Process * http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#registrar-accredit-eval It closes: 21 of January of 2011. * 3) Permanent Charter of GNSÓs Commercial Stakeholder Group Completed - Public Comment Invited * http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#csg-permanent-charter It closes: 23 of January of 2011. * 4) TLG Review - Final Report * http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#tlg-end-report It closes: 24 of January of 2011. * 5) Draft 2011-2014 Strategic Plan * http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#draft-strat-2011 It closes: 25 of January of 2011. * 6) Interim Report of Geographic Regions Review Working Group * http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#geo-regions-interim-report It closes: 30 of January of 2011. * 7) New Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency Petition and Charter * http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#npoc-petition-charter It closes: 30 of January of 2011. * 8) Review of IDN ccTLD Fast Track Process * http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#fast-track-review-2010 It closes: 31 of January of 2011. * 9) GNSO Working Group Guidelines * http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#gnso-wg-guidelines It closes: 08 of February of 2011. * 10) Accountability & Transparency Review Final Team Recommendations * http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#atrt-end It closes: 14 of February of 2011. * 11) Interim Report of the Internationalized Registration Data Working Group * http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#ird It closes: 14 of March of 2011. Source: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/ -- * FÃ¡tima Cambronero * Lawyer-Argentina President Ageia Densi http://ar.ageiadensi.org/ _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/77d989468d.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] RES: Fwd: RALO Project Proposals for FY11
by Cintra Sooknanan Jan. 21, 2011

Jan. 21, 2011

I agree that LACNIC and LACTLD are a great stepping stone into ICANN issues. I attended both before the meeting in Cartagena. In the year that there is no ICANN meeting in the LAC region, both LACTLD and LACNIC events are better suited for our proposed Annual General Assembly as well as other LACRALO contact sessions. Warm regards Cintra Sooknanan 2011/1/20 Vanda UOL <vanda(a)uol.com.br> > Creo que nuestro RALO debe aproximarse más de LACNIC y LACTLD a lo mínimo > involucrando el ALS del país donde ocurra el evento de estas organizaciones > para que haga participación del RALO y por consecuencia de ALAC. > > Vanda Scartezini > Polo Consultores Associados > IT Trend > Alameda Santos 1470 – 1407,8 > 01418-903 São Paulo,SP, Brasil > Tel + 5511 3266.6253 > Mob + 55118181.1464 > > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de Andrés > Piazza > Enviada em: quinta-feira, 20 de janeiro de 2011 07:48 > Para: LACRALO Español > Assunto: [lac-discuss-es] Fwd: RALO Project Proposals for FY11 > > (English Below) > > Estimados: > > Llega un recordatorio (que copio debajo en su versión inglesa original) al > que debieramos prestar atención. > > Tenemos algunos días para enviar proyectos a ALAC y que este intervenga con > uno global en la discusión por el Presupuesto para el próximo año fiscal. > 2011-2012. > > Tenemos que respetar este esquema de: > > - Actividad Propuesta. > - Descripción. > - Impacto en el Plan Estratégico. > - Fecha de Inicio. > - Duración. > > Si alguien tiene intenciones de hacer su aporte, es un excelente momento. > Personalmente creo que hay 2 topicos interesantes. > > - *Asamblea General Cara a Cara*. Entre el 11-16 Marzo de 2012, ICANN > celebrará una reunión en LAC, y será uno de los tópicos a tratar. > > - *Asistencia a la Conferencia Techie* mas grande de la región, para > Outreach. Lo deberíamos coordide ar con otros RALOs, les cuento más de esto > en la semana. > > Voy a trabajar en un documento y se los compartiré. Pero estoy a la espera > de sus aportes, > > Saludos, > > Andrés Piazza > Presidente de LACRALO. > > --------------------------- > > Dear All, > > ICANN produces an annual operational plan and budget to accomplish the > goals > and priorities of the *ICANN Draft 2011-2014 Strategic Plan < > > http://www.icann.org/en/strategic-plan/draft-strategic-plan-2011-2014-27nov1 > 0-en.pdf> > *(PDF). > > As part of the fiscal year operational plan and budget development process > for 2012, ICANN has requested that the ALAC submit projects to be > considered > for inclusion in ICANN's draft Operational Plan and Budget. In turn, the > ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee has requested RALO suggestions for > possible project submissions > > *The deadline for RALO submission of such projects to ICANN is 25 January > 2011. > > The ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee has requested that the Regional > leaders select a budget liaison to lead the regional development of FY12 > budget requests. Please inform staff as soon as possible on the choice of > your regional liaison. > * > The At-Large FY12 Workspace provides the relevant information on the new > FY12 Budget development process as well as useful background information > (see: * > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+FY12+Budget+Development > +Workspace+-+2011 > *). > > *Please note: All project requests must use a template which can be found > on > the At-Large Fiscal Year 2012 Budget Development Workspace. > * > The following information must be included in the preparation of any > project > for possible inclusion in ICANN's 2012 Operational Plan and Budget: > * Activity – The project activity being requested. > * Description – A description of the project activity. > * Strategic Plan Impact - How the proposed project activity accomplishes > the > goal and priorities of ICANN's Strategic Plan or how the project activity > will improve ICANN's Policy Development Process. It would also be useful to > show that the requested activity advances ICANN policy development process. > * Start Date - When the project activity will start. > * Duration - How long the project activity will take place. > > Additionally, the template also requires a breakdown/analysis on what > resources (staff support, technical support, language services, telecom > support, ICANN meetings) are needed to accomplish the project activity. > ICANN Finance Staff will do a budget estimate for each of the resources > needed to accomplish the project activity. > > The ALAC will review all RALO FY12 budget requests during their meeting on > 25 January at 14:00 UTC. The ALAC will submit their budget requests on 31 > January 2011. > > Following review by ICANN staff, all FY12 budget requests to be included in > ICANN's operational plan and budget framework will be posted for public > comment. > > Kind Regards, > -- > Matthias Langenegger > Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > Email: *matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org > *Main Tel: +41 (79) 644 65 35 > Fax: +41 (22) 594 85 44 > Skype ID: matthiaslangenegger > > > > > > -- > *Andrés Piazza* > www.andrespiazza.com > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org >

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HEAD OF CATTLE: Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11
by vanda＠uol.com.br Jan. 20, 2011

Jan. 20, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: HEAD OF CATTLE: Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 From: vanda(a)uol.com.br I believe that our THIN one must come near more of LACNIC and LACTLD to the minimum involving the ALS of the country where it happens the event of these organizations so that participation does of the THIN one and by consequence of ALAC. Vanda Scartezini Pole Consulting Associados IT Trend Tree-lined avenue Holy 1470 - 1407,8 01418-903 São Paulo, SP, Brazil Tel + 5511 3266.6253 Mob + 55118181.1464 -----Mensagem original Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of Andrés Piazza Shipment command post: fifth-feira, 20 of janeiro of 2011 07:48 It stops: Spanish LACRALO Assunto: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 (English Below) Considered: A reminder arrives (which I copy underneath in its original version English) at that debieramos to pay attention. We are some to send projects to ALAC and that this takes part with one global one in the discussion by the Budget for the next fiscal year. 2011-2012. We must respect this scheme of: - Propose Activity. - Description. - Impact in the Strategic Plan. - Date of Beginning. - Duration. If somebody has intentions to make its contribution, is an excellent moment. Personally I believe that there are 2 interesting topicos. - * General Assembly Cara to Face *. Between the 11-16 March of 2012, ICANN it will hold a meeting in LAC, and will be one of the topics to treat. - * Attendance to great the Techie Conference * but of the region, stops Outreach. We would have coordide ar with other Thin ones, themstory more of this in the week. I am going to work in a document and I will share them. But I am to the delay of its contributions, Greetings, AndrÃ©s Piazza President of LACRALO. Dear All, ICANN you produce an annual operational plan and budget to accomplish the goals and priorities of the * ICANN Draft 2011-2014 Strategic Plan < http://www.icann.org/en/strategic-plan/draft-strategic-plan-2011-2014-27nov1 0-en.pdf > * (PDF). Fiscal ace part of the year operational plan and budget development process for 2012, ICANN there are requested that the ALAC submit projects to be considered for inclusion in ICANN's draft Operational Plan and Budget. Inturn, the ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee there are requested THINsuggestions for possible project submissions * THIN The deadline for submission of such projects 25 to ICANN is January 2011. The ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee there are requested that theRegional leaders select to budget liaison to lead the regional development of FY12 budget requests. Please inform staff ace soon possible ace on the choice of your regional liaison. * The AT-Large FY12 Workspace prograpevines the relevant information on the new FY12 Budget development process ace well ace useful backgroundinformation (see: * https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+FY12+Budget+Development +Workspace+-+2011 *). * Please notices: All project requests must uses to template which dog be found on Fiscal the AT-Large Year 2012 Budget Development Workspace. * The following information must be included in the preparation of any project possible for inclusion in ICANN's 2012 Operational Plan and Budget: * Activity - The project activity being requested. * Description - To description of the project activity. * Strategic Plan Impact - How the proposed project activity accomplishes the goal and priorities of ICANN's Strategic Plan or how the project activity will improve ICANN's Policy Development Process. It would alsobe useful to show that the requested activity advances ICANN policy development process. * Start Date - When the project activity will start. * Duration - How long the project activity will take pleases. Additionally, the template also requires to breakdown/analysis on what resources (staff support, technical support, language services, telecom support, ICANN meetings) plows needed to accomplish the project activity. ICANN Finance for Staff will do to budget estimate each of the resources needed to accomplish the project activity. The ALAC will review all THIN FY12 budget requests during to their meeting on 25 January AT 14:00 UTC. The ALAC will submit to their budget requests on 31 January 2011. Following review by ICANN staff, all FY12 budget requests to be included in Operational ICANN's for plan and budget framework will be posted public comment. Kind Regards, -- Matthias Langenegger Manager, Regional AT-Large Affairs For Internet Corporation Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: * matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org * Main Tel: +41 (79) 644 65 35 Fax: +41 (22) 594 85 44 Skype YOU GO: to matthiaslangenegger -- * AndrÃ©s Piazza * www.andrespiazza.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/88390d9d1b.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: THIN for Project Proposals FY11
by carlosaguirre62＠hotmail.com Jan. 20, 2011

Jan. 20, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Fwd: THIN for Project Proposals FY11 From: carlosaguirre62(a)hotmail.com I support the proposal Alex. Could you Sergio make this draft? Or need help? Envoy from my wireless device BlackBerry® -----Original Message From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:37:31 To: <lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] Fwd: THIN for Project Proposals FY11 [ [ - - Translated text (is - > in)--]] Subject: Re: Fwd: THIN for Project Proposals FY11 From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx Sergio, in which Carlos answers, I will say to you: surely there am will be dwells available (I also) circulate to proposal when You they rough draft following what the members we plows aiming. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn you promarry out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Â Â On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:14:12 -0300 > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > To: cveraq(a)gmail.com > Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is] Fwd: THIN for Project Proposals FY11 > Â > very good your idea Carlos! they when these available to work in this? > > * Sergio SalineI carry President Internaut Argentina Argentina Association ofÂ > Usuary of Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- FederationÂ > Latin American of Users of InternetÂ > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSNÂ > YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+549 223 5 215819Â > * > > > the 20/01/2011 11:11 a.m., cveraq(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Considered wanted to explanation: one is proposals of projects ofÂ > > global or regional impact or of activities that ! plowswhat but they seem to meÂ > > propose of Andres? (respect the questionis not diminishing YetÂ > > propose but tryin! Â g to understand ace we dog contribute) > > Â > > Pardon the direct question I a.m. of trip by Cali with little Access aÂ > > Internet by podriamos the q is not to simple me to read the completereferences stopsÂ > > to soak to me of the reach well. > > Â > > Considero that to integrate to basico equipment of work encatrgado ofÂ > > to successfully obtain ideas and to develop them dependingon the approachand reaches ofÂ > > required > > Â > > Greetings > > Â > > Carlos Side> > Â > > Message sent from my terminal BlackBerry® de Porta > >Â > > -----Original Message > > From: presidency Argentina Internaut<presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > > Sender: lac-discuss-it is - bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:57:48 > > To:<lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Reply-To: to to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > &gt! ; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fwd: THIN for Project Proposals FY11 > > Â > > Dea! Â r companions I agree totally with the proposed thing byandres, Â > > we must just to short Time to process the proposal, seriousgood for knowing if to > > somebody but happens something to him to add to this initiative. > > warm Greetings > > Â > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internaut Argentina Association > > Argentinade Usuarios de Internet<http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > > Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > > MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 > > 223 5 215819 * > > Â > > Â > > the 20/01/2011 06:47 a.m., AndrÃ©s Piazza wrote: > > > (English Below) > > > Â > > > Considered: > > > Â > > > Llega to reminder (which I Copy underneath in its original English version) AT > > > that debieramos to lend to > > > global Tenemos some days to send projects to ALAC and that t! histakes partÂ > > > with > > > one one in the discussion by the! Â fiscal for Budget the next year. > > > 2011-2012, > > > Â > > > Tenemos to respect this scheme of: > > > Â > > > - Propose Activity. >> > - Description. > > > - Impact in the Strategic Plan > > > - Dates of Beginning. > > > - Duration. > > > Â > > > If somebody there are intentions to make its contribution, isan excellent moment. > > > Personally I believe that there plows 2 interesting topicos. > > > Â >> > - * General Expensive Assembly to Phase *. Between the 11-16 Marchof 2012, ICANN > > > will hold to meeting in LAC, and will be one of the topics to treat. > > > Â > > > - * Attendance to great the Techie Conference * but of the region, stops > > > Outreach. We would have coordide ar with to other Thin ones, them story dwells ofÂ > > > this > > > in the week. > > > Â > &g! t; > Voy to work in a document and I will share them. But I a.m. to the delay > > > of its! Â contributions, > > > Â > > > Greetings, > > >! Â Â > > Â > AndrÃ©s Piazza > > > President of LACRALO. > > > Â > > > > > > Â > > > Dear All, > > > Â > > > ICANN you produces an annual operational plan and budgetto accomplish theÂ > > > goals > > >and priorities of the * ICANN Draft 2011-2014 StrategicPlan< > > > http://www.icann.org/en/strategic-plan/draft-strategic-plan-2011-2014-27nov…; > > > * (PDF). > > > Â > > > fiscal Ace part of the to year operational for plan and budgetdevelopment process > > > 2012, ICANN there plows requested that the ALAC submit projects to beÂ > > > considered > > > for inclusion in ICANN's draft Operational Plan and Budget. In turn, the > > > ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee thereplows for requested THIN suggestions > > > possible project submissions > > > Â > > > * THIN for The deadline sub! mission of such projects 25 to ICANN is January > > > 2011, > > > Â > >! Â > The ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee there plows requested that the Regional > > > leaders select to budget liaison to lead the regional development of FY12 > > > budget requests. Please inform possible staff ace soon ace on the choice of > > > your regional liaison. > > > * > > > The AT-Large FY12 Workspace prograpevines the relevant information on the new > > > FY12 Budget development process ace well ace useful background information > > > (see: * > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+FY12+Budget+Developmen… > > *). > > > Â > > > * Please notices: All project requests must you use to template which dog be foundÂ > > > on > > > Fiscal the AT-Large Year 2012 Budget Development Workspace. > > > * > > > The following information must be included in the preparation of anyÂ > > > p! roject > > > for possible inclusion in ICANN's 2012! Â Operational Planand Budget: > > > * Activity - The proje! Â ct activ ity being requested. > > > * Description - To description of the project activity. > > > * Strategic Impact Plan - goal How the proposed project activity accomplishesÂ > > > the > > > and prioritiesof ICANN's Strategic Plan or how the project activity > > > will improve ICANN's Policy Development Process. It would also be usefulÂ >> > to > > > show that the requested activity advances ICANN policy developmentÂ > > > process. > > > * Start Date - When the project activity will start. > > > * Duration - How long the project activity will take pleases. > > > Â > > > Additionally, the template also requires to breakdown/analysis on what > > > resources (staff support,technical support, language services, telecom > > > support, ICANN meetings) plows needed to accomplish theproject activity. > > > ICANN for Finance Staff will do to budget esti! mate each of the resources > >> needed to! Â accomplish the project activity. > > > Â > > > The ALAC will review 25 all THIN FY12 budget requests during to to their meeting on > > > January AT 14:00 UTC. 31 The ALAC will submit to to their budget requests on > > > January 2011, > > > Â > > > Following review by ICANN staff, all FY12 budget requests to be includedÂ > > > in > > > operational for ICANN's plan and budget framework will be posted public > > > comment. > > > Â > > > Kind Regards, > Â _______________________________________________ [ [ - - Original text (it is) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/324d29649d.html --]] _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/f48b7c9a4b.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11
by carlos dionisio aguirre Jan. 20, 2011

Jan. 20, 2011

I support the Alex proposal. Could you Sergio make this draft? Or need help? Enviado desde mi dispositivo inalámbrico BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:37:31 To: <lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Cc: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx Sergio, in which Carlos answers, I will say to you: surely he will be more available (I also) when You they circulate a proposal rough draft following what the members we are aiming. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:14:12 -0300 > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > To: cveraq(a)gmail.com > Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 > > very good your idea Carlos! when these available to work in this? > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association of > Usuary of Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Federation > Latin American of Users of Internet > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN > YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 > * > > > the 20/01/2011 11:11 a.m., cveraq(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Considered wanted a explanation: one is proposals of projects of > > global or regional impact or of activities that are what but they seem to me > > propose of Andres? (respect the question is not diminishing Yet > > propose but tryin! g to understand as we can contribute) > > > > Pardon the direct question I am of trip by Cali with little access a > > Internet by the q is not to me simple to read the completereferences stops > > to soak to me of the reach well. > > > > Considero that podriamos to integrate a basico equipment of work encatrgado of > > to successfully obtain ideas and to develop them dependingon the approach and reaches of > > required > > > > Greetings > > > > Carlos Side > > > > Message sent from my terminal BlackBerry® de Porta > > > > -----Original Message > > From: presidency Argentina Internaut<presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > > Sender: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:57:48 > > To:<lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Reply-To: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 > > > > Dea! r companions I agree totally with the proposed thing byandres,! > > we must just a short time to process the proposal, seriousgood for knowing if a > > somebody but happens something to him to add to this initiative. > > warm Greetings > > > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association > > Argentina de Usuarios de Internet<http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > > Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > > MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 > > 223 5 215819 * > > > > > > the 20/01/2011 06:47 a.m., AndrÃ©s Piazza wrote: > > > (English Below) > > > > > > Considered: > > > > > > Llega a reminder (which I copy underneath in its original version English) at > > > that debieramos to lend a > > > Tenemos some days to send projects to ALAC and that thistakes part > > > with > > > one global one in the discussion by the! Budget for the next fiscal year. > > > 2011-2012. > > > > > > Tenemos to respect this scheme of: > > > > > > - Propose Activity. > > > - Description. > > > - Impact in the Strategic Plan. > > > - Date of Beginning. > > > - Duration. > > > > > > If somebody has intentions to make its contribution, isan excellent moment. > > > Personally I believe that there are 2 interesting topicos. > > > > > > - * General Assembly Cara to Face *. Between the 11-16 March of 2012, ICANN > > > will hold a meeting in LAC, and will be one of the topics to treat. > > > > > > - * Attendance to great the Techie Conference * but of the region, stops > > > Outreach. We would have coordide ar with other Thin ones, them story more of > > > this > > > in the week. > > > > > > Voy to work in a document and I will share them. But I am to the delay > > > of its ! contributions, > > > > > > Greetings, > > >! > > > AndrÃ©s Piazza > > > President of LACRALO. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > ICANN you produce an annual operational plan and budgetto accomplish the > > > goals > > > and priorities of the * ICANN Draft 2011-2014 StrategicPlan< > > > http://www.icann.org/en/strategic-plan/draft-strategic-plan-2011-2014-27nov…; > > > * (PDF). > > > > > > fiscal Ace part of the year operational plan and budgetdevelopment process > > > for 2012, ICANN there are requested that the ALAC submit projects to be > > > considered > > > for inclusion in ICANN's draft Operational Plan and Budget. In turn, the > > > ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee there are requested THIN suggestions for > > > possible project submissions > > > > > > * THIN The deadline for submission of such projects 25 to ICANN is January > > > 2011. > > > > >! > The ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee there are requested that the Regional > > > leaders select to budget liaison to lead the regional development of FY12 > > > budget requests. Please inform staff ace soon possible ace on the choice of > > > your regional liaison. > > > * > > > The AT-Large FY12 Workspace prograpevines the relevant information on the new > > > FY12 Budget development process ace well ace useful background information > > > (see: * > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+FY12+Budget&#4… > > > *). > > > > > > * Please notices: All project requests must uses to template which dog be found > > > on > > > Fiscal the AT-Large Year 2012 Budget Development Workspace. > > > * > > > The following information must be included in the preparation of any > > > project > > > for possible inclusion in ICANN's 2012 ! Operational Planand Budget: > > > * Activity - The proje! ct activ ity being requested. > > > * Description - To description of the project activity. > > > * Strategic Plan Impact - How the proposed project activity accomplishes > > > the > > > goal and priorities of ICANN's Strategic Plan or how the project activity > > > will improve ICANN's Policy Development Process. It would also be useful > > > to > > > show that the requested activity advances ICANN policy development > > > process. > > > * Start Date - When the project activity will start. > > > * Duration - How long the project activity will take pleases. > > > > > > Additionally, the template also requires to breakdown/analysis on what > > > resources (staff support, technical support, language services, telecom > > > support, ICANN meetings) plows needed to accomplish theproject activity. > > > ICANN Finance for Staff will do to budget estimate each of the resources > > > needed to! accomplish the project activity. > > > > > > The ALAC will review all THIN FY12 budget requests during to their meeting on > > > 25 January AT 14:00 UTC. The ALAC will submit to their budget requests on 31 > > > January 2011. > > > > > > Following review by ICANN staff, all FY12 budget requests to be included > > > in > > > operational ICANN's for plan and budget framework will be posted public > > > comment. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/324d29649d.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11
by apisan＠servidor.unam.mx Jan. 20, 2011

Jan. 20, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx Sergio, in which Carlos answers, I will say to you: surely he will be more available (I also) when You they circulate a proposal rough draft following what the members we are aiming. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:14:12 -0300 > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > To: cveraq(a)gmail.com > Cc: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 > > very good your idea Carlos! when these available to work in this? > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association of > Usuary of Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Federation > Latin American of Users of Internet > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN > YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 > * > > > the 20/01/2011 11:11 a.m., cveraq(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Considered wanted a explanation: one is proposals of projects of > > global or regional impact or of activities that are what but they seem to me > > propose of Andres? (respect the question is not diminishing Yet > > propose but tryin! g to understand as we can contribute) > > > > Pardon the direct question I am of trip by Cali with little access a > > Internet by the q is not to me simple to read the completereferences stops > > to soak to me of the reach well. > > > > Considero that podriamos to integrate a basico equipment of work encatrgado of > > to successfully obtain ideas and to develop them dependingon the approach and reaches of > > required > > > > Greetings > > > > Carlos Side > > > > Message sent from my terminal BlackBerry® de Porta > > > > -----Original Message > > From: presidency Argentina Internaut<presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > > Sender: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:57:48 > > To:<lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Reply-To: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 > > > > Dea! r companions I agree totally with the proposed thing byandres,! > > we must just a short time to process the proposal, seriousgood for knowing if a > > somebody but happens something to him to add to this initiative. > > warm Greetings > > > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association > > Argentina de Usuarios de Internet<http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > > Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > > MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 > > 223 5 215819 * > > > > > > the 20/01/2011 06:47 a.m., AndrÃ©s Piazza wrote: > > > (English Below) > > > > > > Considered: > > > > > > Llega a reminder (which I copy underneath in its original version English) at > > > that debieramos to lend a > > > Tenemos some days to send projects to ALAC and that thistakes part > > > with > > > one global one in the discussion by the! Budget for the next fiscal year. > > > 2011-2012. > > > > > > Tenemos to respect this scheme of: > > > > > > - Propose Activity. > > > - Description. > > > - Impact in the Strategic Plan. > > > - Date of Beginning. > > > - Duration. > > > > > > If somebody has intentions to make its contribution, isan excellent moment. > > > Personally I believe that there are 2 interesting topicos. > > > > > > - * General Assembly Cara to Face *. Between the 11-16 March of 2012, ICANN > > > will hold a meeting in LAC, and will be one of the topics to treat. > > > > > > - * Attendance to great the Techie Conference * but of the region, stops > > > Outreach. We would have coordide ar with other Thin ones, them story more of > > > this > > > in the week. > > > > > > Voy to work in a document and I will share them. But I am to the delay > > > of its ! contributions, > > > > > > Greetings, > > >! > > > AndrÃ©s Piazza > > > President of LACRALO. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > ICANN you produce an annual operational plan and budgetto accomplish the > > > goals > > > and priorities of the * ICANN Draft 2011-2014 StrategicPlan< > > > http://www.icann.org/en/strategic-plan/draft-strategic-plan-2011-2014-27nov… > > > * (PDF). > > > > > > fiscal Ace part of the year operational plan and budgetdevelopment process > > > for 2012, ICANN there are requested that the ALAC submit projects to be > > > considered > > > for inclusion in ICANN's draft Operational Plan and Budget. In turn, the > > > ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee there are requested THIN suggestions for > > > possible project submissions > > > > > > * THIN The deadline for submission of such projects 25 to ICANN is January > > > 2011. > > > > >! > The ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee there are requested that the Regional > > > leaders select to budget liaison to lead the regional development of FY12 > > > budget requests. Please inform staff ace soon possible ace on the choice of > > > your regional liaison. > > > * > > > The AT-Large FY12 Workspace prograpevines the relevant information on the new > > > FY12 Budget development process ace well ace useful background information > > > (see: * > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+FY12+Budget+Developmen… > > > *). > > > > > > * Please notices: All project requests must uses to template which dog be found > > > on > > > Fiscal the AT-Large Year 2012 Budget Development Workspace. > > > * > > > The following information must be included in the preparation of any > > > project > > > for possible inclusion in ICANN's 2012 ! Operational Planand Budget: > > > * Activity - The proje! ct activ ity being requested. > > > * Description - To description of the project activity. > > > * Strategic Plan Impact - How the proposed project activity accomplishes > > > the > > > goal and priorities of ICANN's Strategic Plan or how the project activity > > > will improve ICANN's Policy Development Process. It would also be useful > > > to > > > show that the requested activity advances ICANN policy development > > > process. > > > * Start Date - When the project activity will start. > > > * Duration - How long the project activity will take pleases. > > > > > > Additionally, the template also requires to breakdown/analysis on what > > > resources (staff support, technical support, language services, telecom > > > support, ICANN meetings) plows needed to accomplish theproject activity. > > > ICANN Finance for Staff will do to budget estimate each of the resources > > > needed to! accomplish the project activity. > > > > > > The ALAC will review all THIN FY12 budget requests during to their meeting on > > > 25 January AT 14:00 UTC. The ALAC will submit to their budget requests on 31 > > > January 2011. > > > > > > Following review by ICANN staff, all FY12 budget requests to be included > > > in > > > operational ICANN's for plan and budget framework will be posted public > > > comment. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/324d29649d.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Fwd: RALO Project Proposals for FY11
by Cintra Sooknanan Jan. 20, 2011

Jan. 20, 2011

I agree with this! Can we consider the first document shared to be a general description space and the second document (which is a spreadsheet) to be the document we use to flesh out our proposals? Cintra 2011/1/20 Alejandro Pisanty <apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx> > Hola, > > me parece que no debemos inventar necesidades sino primero que nada > atender las que tenemos identificadas. > > Reiteradamente se ha observado en nuestra comunidad la necesidad de > profundizar y extender los conocimientos de los líderes y representantes > de las organizaciones miembros de LACRALO, y de sus miembros, sobre los > temas técnicos fundamentales que subyacen la actividad de ICANN, y sobre > los temas que se vuelven de actualidad. > > Me atreveré a pedir por tanto a nuestros líderes electos y representantes > que armen el marco de una actividad de formación, capacitación y > actualización, que posiblemente se llevara a cabo dentro de las fechas y > en el lugar de una reunión de ICANN, LACNIC, o similar. Que este armado > incluya estructura, tiempos, y presupuesto. > > Me ofrezco como un voluntario más a discutir el programa, contenido y > ponentes que podrían formar parte de esa actividad. > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * Mi blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > > * Ven a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > *Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . > > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, presidencia Internauta Argentina wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:57:48 -0300 > > From: presidencia Internauta Argentina <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Fwd: RALO Project Proposals for FY11 > > > > Estimados compañeros coincido plenamente con lo propuesto por andres, > tenemos > > poco tiempo para elaborar la propuesta, seria bueno saber si a alguien > mas se > > le ocurre algo para agregar a esta iniciativa. > > Saludos cordiales > > > > *Sergio Salinas Porto Presidente Internauta Argentina Asociación > Argentina de > > Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Federación > > Latinoamericana de Usuarios de Internet > > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > MSN/MSN > > YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 > 215819 > > * > > > > > > El 20/01/2011 06:47 a.m., Andrés Piazza escribió: > >> (English Below) > >> > >> Estimados: > >> > >> Llega un recordatorio (que copio debajo en su versión inglesa original) > al > >> que debieramos prestar a > >> Tenemos algunos días para enviar proyectos a ALAC y que este intervenga > con > >> uno global en la discusión por el Presupuesto para el próximo año > fiscal. > >> 2011-2012. > >> > >> Tenemos que respetar este esquema de: > >> > >> - Actividad Propuesta. > >> - Descripción. > >> - Impacto en el Plan Estratégico. > >> - Fecha de Inicio. > >> - Duración. > >> > >> Si alguien tiene intenciones de hacer su aporte, es un excelente > momento. > >> Personalmente creo que hay 2 topicos interesantes. > >> > >> - *Asamblea General Cara a Cara*. Entre el 11-16 Marzo de 2012, ICANN > >> celebrará una reunión en LAC, y será uno de los tópicos a tratar. > >> > >> - *Asistencia a la Conferencia Techie* mas grande de la región, para > >> Outreach. Lo deberíamos coordide ar con otros RALOs, les cuento más de > esto > >> en la semana. > >> > >> Voy a trabajar en un documento y se los compartiré. Pero estoy a la > espera > >> de sus aportes, > >> > >> Saludos, > >> > >> Andrés Piazza > >> Presidente de LACRALO. > >> > >> --------------------------- > >> > >> Dear All, > >> > >> ICANN produces an annual operational plan and budget to accomplish the > >> goals > >> and priorities of the *ICANN Draft 2011-2014 Strategic Plan< > >> > http://www.icann.org/en/strategic-plan/draft-strategic-plan-2011-2014-27nov… > > > >> *(PDF). > >> > >> As part of the fiscal year operational plan and budget development > process > >> for 2012, ICANN has requested that the ALAC submit projects to be > >> considered > >> for inclusion in ICANN's draft Operational Plan and Budget. In turn, the > >> ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee has requested RALO suggestions > for > >> possible project submissions > >> > >> *The deadline for RALO submission of such projects to ICANN is 25 > January > >> 2011. > >> > >> The ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee has requested that the > Regional > >> leaders select a budget liaison to lead the regional development of FY12 > >> budget requests. Please inform staff as soon as possible on the choice > of > >> your regional liaison. > >> * > >> The At-Large FY12 Workspace provides the relevant information on the new > >> FY12 Budget development process as well as useful background information > >> (see: * > >> > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+FY12+Budget+Developmen… > >> *). > >> > >> *Please note: All project requests must use a template which can be > found > >> on > >> the At-Large Fiscal Year 2012 Budget Development Workspace. > >> * > >> The following information must be included in the preparation of any > >> project > >> for possible inclusion in ICANN's 2012 Operational Plan and Budget: > >> * Activity – The project activity being requested. > >> * Description – A description of the project activity. > >> * Strategic Plan Impact - How the proposed project activity accomplishes > >> the > >> goal and priorities of ICANN's Strategic Plan or how the project > activity > >> will improve ICANN's Policy Development Process. It would also be useful > to > >> show that the requested activity advances ICANN policy development > process. > >> * Start Date - When the project activity will start. > >> * Duration - How long the project activity will take place. > >> > >> Additionally, the template also requires a breakdown/analysis on what > >> resources (staff support, technical support, language services, telecom > >> support, ICANN meetings) are needed to accomplish the project activity. > >> ICANN Finance Staff will do a budget estimate for each of the resources > >> needed to accomplish the project activity. > >> > >> The ALAC will review all RALO FY12 budget requests during their meeting > on > >> 25 January at 14:00 UTC. The ALAC will submit their budget requests on > 31 > >> January 2011. > >> > >> Following review by ICANN staff, all FY12 budget requests to be included > in > >> ICANN's operational plan and budget framework will be posted for public > >> comment. > >> > >> Kind Regards, > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org >

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11
by apisan＠servidor.unam.mx Jan. 20, 2011

Jan. 20, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 From: apisan(a)servidor.unam.mx Hello, it seems to me that we do not have to invent necessities but first that nothing to take care of those that we have identified. Repeatedly the necessity has been observed in our community of to deepen and to extend the knowledge of the leaders and representatives of the organizations members of LACRALO, and their members, on fundamental technical subjects that they sublie the ICANN activity, and on the subjects that become from the present time. I will dare to ask therefore our elect and representing leaders that they arm the frame of a formation activity, qualificationand update, that was possibly carried out within the dates and in the place of a ICANN meeting, LACNIC, or similar. That thisarming include structure, times, and estimated. I offer myself like a volunteer to discuss the program, content more and ponentes that could comprise of that activity. Alexander Pisanty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr Alexander Pisanty UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 * They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org * It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, presidency Argentina Internaut wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:57:48 -0300 > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 > > Dear companions I agree totally with the proposed thing by andres, we have > just a short time to process the proposal, serious good for knowing if to somebody but > happens something to him to add to this initiative. > warm Greetings > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association of > Usuary of Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Federation > Latin American of Users of Internet > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN > YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 > * > > > the 20/01/2011 06:47 a.m., AndrÃ©s Piazza wrote: > > (English Below) > > > > Considered: > > > > Llega a reminder (which I copy underneath i! n its original version English) at > > that debieramos to lend a > > Tenemos some days to send projects to ALAC and that this takes part with > > one global one in the discussion by the Budget for the next fiscal year. > > 2011-2012. > > > > Tenemos to respect this scheme of: > > > > - Propose Activity. > > - Description. > > - Impact in the Strategic Plan. > > - Date of Beginning. > > - Duration. > > > > If somebody has intentions to make its contribution, is anexcellent moment. > > Personally I believe that there are 2 interesting topicos. > > > > - * General Assembly Cara to Face *. Between the 11-16 March of 2012, ICANN > > will hold a meeting in LAC, and will be one of the topics to treat. > > > > - * Attendance to great the Techie Conference * but of theregion, stops > > Outreach. We would have coordide ar with other Thin ones, them story more of this > > in the week. > > > > Voy to work in ! a document and I will share them. But I am to the delay > >! of its contributions, > > > > Greetings, > > > > AndrÃ©s Piazza > > President of LACRALO. > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > ICANN you produce an annual operational plan and budget toaccomplish the > > goals > > and priorities of the * ICANN Draft 2011-2014 Strategic Plan< > > http://www.icann.org/en/strategic-plan/draft-strategic-plan-2011-2014-27nov… > > * (PDF). > > > > fiscal Ace part of the year operational plan and budget development process > > for 2012, ICANN there are requested that the ALAC submit projects to be > > considered > > for inclusion in ICANN's draft Operational Plan and Budget. In turn, the > > ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee there are requestedTHIN suggestions for > > possible project submissions > > > > * THIN The deadline for submission of such projects 25 toICANN is January > > 2011. > > > > The ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee there are request! ed that the Regional > > leaders select to budget liaison to lead the regional development of FY12 > > budget requests. Please inform staff ace soon possible ace on the choice of > > your regional liaison. > > * > > The AT-Large FY12 Workspace prograpevines the relevant information on the new > > FY12 Budget development process ace well ace useful background information > > (see: * > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+FY12+Budget+Developmen… > > *). > > > > * Please notices: All project requests must uses to template which dog be found > > on > > Fiscal the AT-Large Year 2012 Budget Development Workspace. > > * > > The following information must be included in the preparation of any > > project > > for possible inclusion in ICANN's 2012 Operational Plan and Budget: > > * Activity - The project activity being requested. > > * Description - To description of the project activity. ! > > * Strategic Plan Impact - How the proposed project acti! vity acc omplishes > > the > > goal and priorities of ICANN's Strategic Plan or how the project activity > > will improve ICANN's Policy Development Process. It wouldalso be useful to > > show that the requested activity advances ICANN policy development process. > > * Start Date - When the project activity will start. > > * Duration - How long the project activity will take pleases. > > > > Additionally, the template also requires to breakdown/analysis on what > > resources (staff support, technical support, language services, telecom > > support, ICANN meetings) plows needed to accomplish the project activity. > > ICANN Finance for Staff will do to budget estimate each of the resources > > needed to accomplish the project activity. > > > > The ALAC will review all THIN FY12 budget requests duringto their meeting on > > 25 January AT 14:00 UTC. The ALAC will submit to their budget requests on 31 > > January 2011. > > > > Foll! owing review by ICANN staff, all FY12 budget requeststo be included in > > operational ICANN's for plan and budget framework will beposted public > > comment. > > > > Kind Regards, > _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/29750baaef.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11
by andrespiazza＠gmail.com Jan. 20, 2011

Jan. 20, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 From: andrespiazza(a)gmail.com We are working with 2 documents. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Agb5muÜkb2vdGNiTWd5WUVfYXVDQ3JWSkp… Both connected. Greetings, Andrés 2011/1/20 <cveraq(a)gmail.com> > Excellent option. > > I do not have access to doc by the q pediria if in deprived me you can pastear > aqui? > > Hug > > > Carlos > > Message sent from my terminal BlackBerry® de Porta > > * From: * Andrés Piazza <andrespiazza(a)gmail.com> > * Dates: * Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:52:17 -0300 > * To: *<cveraq(a)gmail.com> > * Subject: * Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 > > Carlos. Thanks. > > In google docs we are working all publishing in situ. It is a way > colaborativa, nothing but. I do not believe that she must nor she corresponds to me to have a roll > preponderant there. > > Andrés > > the 20 of January of 2011 11:29, <cveraq(a)gmail.com> he wrote: > > > From already! The idea of a work group is not the one of acommission but if > > Andres considers that it can compile and give form to the ideas that > > appears also seems to me an option! > > > > apuntaria I to an activity (considering the answer of Andres in another one > > email)! that has at least a result of but long breath or projection and > > podria to be one of the propose meetings but with a reach well of > > results and objectives of greater reach and projection. I talk about one > > activity that is the culmination of a previous work that takes a to us > > propose of action or overhaul of results in the same one. > > > > For that reason queria to understand the reach of which itis possible to be proposed! > > > > Carlos > > Message sent from my terminal BlackBerry® de Porta > > > > -----Original Message > > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:14:12 > > To: <cveraq(a)gmail.com> > > Reply-To: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > > Cc: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 > > > > very good your idea Carlos! when these available to work in this? > &gt! ; > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentin! a Associ ation > > Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > > Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > > MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 > > 223 5 215819 * > > > > > > the 20/01/2011 11:11 a.m., cveraq(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > Considered wanted a explanation: one is proposals of projects > > of global or regional impact or activities that is what but they seem to me > > the proposals of Andres? (respect the question is not diminishing Yet > > the proposals but trying to understand as we can contribute) > > > > > > Pardon the direct question I am of trip by Cali with little access a > > Internet by the q is not to me simple to read the completereferences stops > > to soak to me of the reach well. > > > > > > Considero that podriamos to integrate a basico equipmentof enc! atrgado work > > to successfully obtain ideas and to develop them dependingon the approach and reaches of > > required > > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > Carlos Side > > > > > > Message sent from my terminal BlackBerry® de Porta > > > > > > -----Original Message > > > From: presidency Argentina Internaut<presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > > > Sender: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:57:48 > > > To:<lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > Reply-To: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 > > > > > > Dear companions I agree totally with the proposed thingby andres, > > > we must just a short time to process the proposal, serious good for knowing if a > > > somebody but happens something to him to add to this initiative. > > > warm Gree! tings > > > > > > * Sergio Saline I carry Presiden! t Intern auta Argentina Association > > > Argentina de Usuarios de Internet<http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > > > Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > > > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > > > MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 > > > 223 5 215819 * > > > > > > > > > the 20/01/2011 06:47 a.m., AndrÃ©s Piazza wrote: > > > > (English Below) > > > > > > > > Considered: > > > > > > > > Llega a reminder (that I copy underneath in its original English version) > > to > > > > that debieramos to lend a > > > > Tenemos some days to send projects to ALAC and that this takes part > > with > > > > one global one in the discussion by the Budget for the next year > > fiscal. > > > > 2011-2012. > > > > > > > > Tenemos to respect this scheme of: > > > &g! t; > > > > - Propose Activity. > > > > - Description. > > > > - Impact in the Strategic Plan. > > > > - Date of Beginning. > > > > - Duration. > > > > > > > > If somebody has intentions to make its contribution, is an excellent one > > moment. > > > > Personally I believe that there are 2 interesting topicos. > > > > > > > > - * General Assembly Cara to Face *. Between the 11-16 March of 2012, ICANN > > > > will hold a meeting in LAC, and will be one of the topics to treat. > > > > > > > > - * Attendance to great the Techie Conference * but of the region, stops > > > > Outreach. We would have coordide ar with other Thin ones, them story more of > > this > > > > in the week. > > > > > > > > Voy to work in a document and I will share them. But I am to > > hopes > > > > of its contributions, > > > > ! > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > ! AndrÃ©s Piazza > > > > President of LACRALO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > ICANN you produce an annual operational plan and budget to accomplish the > > goals > > > > and priorities of the * ICANN Draft 2011-2014 Strategic Plan< > > > > > > http://www.icann.org/en/strategic-plan/draft-strategic-plan-2011-2014-27nov… > > > > > > > * (PDF). > > > > > > > > fiscal Ace part of the year operational plan and budget development > > process > > > > for 2012, ICANN there are requested that the ALAC submit projects to be > > considered > > > > for inclusion in ICANN's draft Operational Plan and Budget. In turn, > > the > > > > ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee there are requested THIN suggestions > > for > > > > possible project submissions > > > > > > > > * THIN The dea! dline for submission of such projects to ICANN is 25 > > January > > > > 2011. > > > > > > > > The ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee there are requested that the > > Regional > > > > leaders select to budget liaison to lead the regionaldevelopment of > > FY12 > > > > budget requests. Please inform staff ace soon possible ace on the choice > > of > > > > your regional liaison. > > > > * > > > > The AT-Large FY12 Workspace prograpevines the relevant information on the > > new > > > > FY12 Budget development process ace well ace useful background > > information > > > > (see: * > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+FY12+Budget+Developmen… > > > > *). > > > > > > > > * Please notices: All project requests must uses to template which dog be > > found on > > > > Fiscal the AT-! Large Year 2012 Budget Development Workspace. > > > >! * > &gt ; > > The following information must be included in the preparation of any > > project > > > > for possible inclusion in ICANN's 2012 Operational Plan and Budget: > > > > * Activity - The project activity being requested. > > > > * Description - To description of the project activity. > > > > * Strategic Plan Impact - How the proposed project activity > > accomplishes the > > > > goal and priorities of ICANN's Strategic Plan or how the project > > activity > > > > will improve ICANN's Policy Development Process. It would also be > > useful to > > > > show that the requested activity advances ICANN policy development > > process. > > > > * Start Date - When the project activity will start. > > > > * Duration - How long the project activity will take pleases. > > > > > > > > Additionally, the template also requires to breakdown/analysis on what > > > &g! t; resources (staff support, technical support, languageservices, telecom > > > > support, ICANN meetings) plows needed to accomplish the project activity. > > > > ICANN Finance for Staff will do to budget estimate each of theresources > > > > needed to accomplish the project activity. > > > > > > > > The ALAC will review all THIN FY12 budget requests during to their meeting > > on > > > > 25 January AT 14:00 UTC. The ALAC will submit to their budget requests on > > 31 > > > > January 2011. > > > > > > > > Following review by ICANN staff, all FY12 budget requests to be > > included in > > > > operational ICANN's for plan and budget framework will be posted public > > > > comment. > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org ! > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-di! scuss-is > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > -- > * AndrÃ©s Piazza * > www.andrespiazza.com > -- * AndrÃ©s Piazza * www.andrespiazza.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/071aa97c68.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11
by cveraq＠gmail.com Jan. 20, 2011

Jan. 20, 2011

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 From: cveraq(a)gmail.com >From already! The idea of a work group is not the one of a commission but if Andres considers that it can compile and to give form to the ideas that appear also seems to me an option! Apuntaria I to an activity (considering the answer of Andres in another email) that has at least a result of but long breath or projection and podria to be one of the propose meetings but with a reach of results and objectives of greater reach and projection well. I talk about an activity that is the culmination of a previous work that takes to proposals of action or overhaul to us of results in the same one. For that reason queria to understand the reach of which it is possibleto be proposed! Carlos Message sent from my terminal BlackBerry® de Porta -----Original Message From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:14:12 To: <cveraq(a)gmail.com> Reply-To: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar Cc: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 very good your idea Carlos! when these available to work in this? * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- Latin American federation of Users of Internet <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * The 20/01/2011 11:11 a.m., cveraq(a)gmail.com wrote: > Considered wanted a explanation: one is proposals of projects of global or regional impact or activities that are what but they seem tome the proposals of Andres? (respect the question is not diminishing the proposals Yet but trying to understand as we can contribute) > > Pardon the direct question I am of trip by Cali with little access to Internet by the q is not to me simple to read the complete references to soak to me of the reach well. > > Considero that podriamos to integrate a basico equipment of encatrgado work to successfully obtain ideas and to develop them depending on the approach and reaches of the required thing > > Greetings > > Carlos Side > > Message sent from my terminal BlackBerry® de Porta > > -----Original Message > From: presidency Argentina Internaut<presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> > Sender: lac-discuss-it is -bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:57:48 > To:<lac-discuss-es@! atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Reply-To: to presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fwd: THIN Project for Proposals FY11 > > Dear companions I agree totally with the proposed thing by andres, > we must just a short time to process the proposal, serious good for knowing if a > somebody but happens something to him to add to this initiative. > warm Greetings > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association > Argentina de Usuarios de Internet<http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas > MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 > 223 5 215819 * > > > the 20/01/2011 06:47 a.m., Andrés Piazza wrote: > > (English Below) > > > > Considered: > > > > Llega a reminder (which I copy underneath in its original version English) at > > that debieramos to lend a > > Tenemos some days to! send projects to ALAC and that this takes part with > > on! e global one in the discussion by the Budget for the next fiscal year. > > 2011-2012. > > > > Tenemos to respect this scheme of: > > > > - Propose Activity. > > - Description. > > - Impact in the Strategic Plan. > > - Date of Beginning. > > - Duration. > > > > If somebody has intentions to make its contribution, is anexcellent moment. > > Personally I believe that there are 2 interesting topicos. > > > > - * General Assembly Cara to Face *. Between the 11-16 March of 2012, ICANN > > will hold a meeting in LAC, and will be one of the topics to treat. > > > > - * Attendance to great the Techie Conference * but of theregion, stops > > Outreach. We would have coordide ar with other Thin ones, them story more of this > > in the week. > > > > Voy to work in a document and I will share them. But I am to the delay > > of its contributions, > > > > Greetings, > > > > Andrés Piazza > > President of LACRALO. > &g! t; > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > ICANN you produce an annual operational plan and budget to accomplish the goals > > and priorities of the * ICANN Draft 2011-2014 Strategic Plan< > > http://www.icann.org/en/strategic-plan/draft-strategic-plan-2011-2014-27nov… > > * (PDF). > > > > fiscal Ace part of the year operational plan and budget development process > > for 2012, ICANN there are requested that the ALAC submit projects to be considered > > for inclusion in ICANN's draft Operational Plan and Budget. In turn, the > > ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee there are requestedTHIN suggestions for > > possible project submissions > > > > * THIN The deadline for submission of such projects 25 toICANN is January > > 2011. > > > > The ALAC Finance and Budget Sub-Committee there are requested that the Regional > > leaders select to budget liaison to lead the regional development of FY12 > > budget requests! . Please inform staff ace soon possible ace on the choice of >! > yo ur regional liaison. > > * > > The AT-Large FY12 Workspace prograpevines the relevant information on the new > > FY12 Budget development process ace well ace useful background information > > (see: * > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+FY12+Budget+Developmen… > > *). > > > > * Please notices: All project requests must uses to template which dog be found on > > Fiscal the AT-Large Year 2012 Budget Development Workspace. > > * > > The following information must be included in the preparation of any project > > for possible inclusion in ICANN's 2012 Operational Plan and Budget: > > * Activity - The project activity being requested. > > * Description - To description of the project activity. > > * Strategic Plan Impact - How the proposed project activity accomplishes the > > goal and priorities of ICANN's Strategic Plan or how the project activity > > will improve ICANN's Policy Development ! Process. It wouldalso be useful to > > show that the requested activity advances ICANN policy development process. > > * Start Date - When the project activity will start. > > * Duration - How long the project activity will take pleases. > > > > Additionally, the template also requires to breakdown/analysis on what > > resources (staff support, technical support, language services, telecom > > support, ICANN meetings) plows needed to accomplish the project activity. > > ICANN Finance for Staff will do to budget estimate each of the resources > > needed to accomplish the project activity. > > > > The ALAC will review all THIN FY12 budget requests duringto their meeting on > > 25 January AT 14:00 UTC. The ALAC will submit to their budget requests on 31 > > January 2011. > > > > Following review by ICANN staff, all FY12 budget requeststo be included in > > operational ICANN's for plan and budget framework will beposted public > &! gt; comment. > > > > Kind Regards, _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/fb1e2dff4e.html --]]

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