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by vanda＠uol.com.br May 27, 2012

May 27, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? RES = 3A_Toda_Am = E9rica_Latina? = From: vanda(a)uol.com.br Unreadeble the spanish translation .... ----- Mensagem Original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome devtee(a)gmail.com Posted in: Sexta-Feira, 25 mai 2012 20:44 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: All America Latina [[- Translated text (in -> en) -]] Subject: Re: All America Latina From: devtee(a)gmail.com Dear All, Think of this message has not reached the list of ES, so re-Envo back "as is" with the hope that the list veren ES - Dev Anand ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <admin at bango.org.bb> Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 18:31 Subject: [lac-discuss-en] all of Latin America To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Hello to all members, It has become difficult not to notice what may be called a demonstration of American Msculo America. First an attempt to ignore the fact that the official language is English Course and I am seeing statements of the working groups a the decision must be made on the language that the group would work in. If the official language ICANN is Ingls, it is important that the Ingls is used and not a mixture of words in German, Spanish, French or otherwise have different meanings and connotations in different idiomas.Esto is ascomo important to be consistent. No matter the language, what language is used, should not be compromised.There can be something as comprehension Inglsy then let someone more the comprehension of a way different due to differences of language or interpretation. For example, I'm listening reference to the President, as President, which is said Trasnlation into Spanish for "the President" is "the President". In English, there is a clear distinction between a President and a President, and there is a difference between "sovereign" and "higher making organ "of an organization. The highest organ of decision in any organization is also subject to rules. Or can even break their own rules and as a matter of fact, will be judged by how well it has been able to observe its own rules. First, when I look at the rules of LACRALO, the President is erroneously known as the President. This is where the corruption of the President begins term as it moves from the President of the president, the president. Then, upon taking office, President begins to act like he is a president, but when you look at the ROP, the president's role is clearly an executive, but the role, a task to perform. Second, the sovereign word has no place in the process democratic. Democracy is not about sovereignty but rather cooperation, dialogue, collaboration, consultation and consensus. The sovereignty connotes arbitrary rule, an absolute rule, a divine right to rule, etc., while democracy is on the status of people and completely contrary to the beliefs popular, not about majority rule either. This is the rule of the people. In any society, there are many different people. People do not tend to be of one mind. They have diverse interests and at both have to come together, consultation, dialogue and continue working with others for the benefit of all.In any democracy, especially minorities should have a voice and it seems that the LEA, although they are saying democracy obviously do not understand what palabra.Esto means was demonstrated by the President of the Joseph General Assembly in one of many incidents when he refused questions on a motion and stated that the vote will take place only. A then after the vote, someone proceeded to ask clarification on what was just voted. That in itself is crazy and, certainly a lack of appreciation for democratic procedure, since After voting, no one should ask for clarification. Everyone should be clear about what they are voting before vote. Therefore, do not support his election as President of LACRALO and given the dictatorial behavior of the Secretariat, I lay in doubt their knowledge of democracy. While these people as personalities are very hospitable and friendly, this race to politicize LACRALO unwelcome. As a person who is accustomed to democratic procedures and process (which is my daily life), which is below my dignity to participate in any organization where elected believe they have a single autocratic and democratic rules procedures are unknown. We're not used to not esto.Nosotros We are accustomed to people trying to make enforceable decisions that affect others and rely on its authority to tease rules and do what they like. These issues are too simple and I have no intention of participate in meetings where people are not respected and is expected to do what they are told. I left my childhood more than for 40 years, never to return. So my participation in LACRALO will be minimal if any. Not I can take the infantilism associated with the politicization of LACRALO. Finally, in the same way as the coefficients of the countries have applied to ensure that each country has one vote, is the same so that Los Angeles should not hold all elected officials. It This LA & C. It is now only in Los Angeles. The C is missing and I am among the many C. of my colleagues have taken the same position including those who were in CR and at Therefore, when the after CR should be greater participation, or we can achieve even this proposal. Therefore, oppose this politicization of LACRALO and give notice of not participate is not for lack of interest, but to protest the politización.Voy to sit with you at a party, sit down to talk, but not in the meetings of LACRALO to those charged with their management understand how to manage in a democratic manner. South Korea Roosevelt O.King Secretary General of the Barbados, the Association of Non Governmental # 10 Garrison, St. Michael Barbados Tel: 247-822-7707 / 254-5815 e-mail: admin in bango.org.bb Network: http://bangoonline.igloocommunities.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/faf6d19722.html --]]

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by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org May 27, 2012

May 27, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? Comnetarios_p = FAblicos_sobre = 3D__? == Iso-8859-1? Q? Draft_Statement_on_ICANN = 27s_role_and_remit_in_SSR? = From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Dear Members of LACRALO Vena There follows a reminder sent to us by the Vice for Latin America ICANN, Rodrigo de la Parra: Friends, We have published a document estsujeto audience to comment on the role that ICANN should have regard to the Stability and Safety nical devices, Internet identifiers. Much agradecerdifundir them among its members, communities and friends stakeholders this document to encourage their participation. From already thank you very much, -------------------------- Rodrigo de la Parra <mailto:rodrigo.delaparra@icann.org> rodrigo.delaparra @ icann.org Vice President for Latin America Vice President for Latin America ICANN One World, One Internet We send our comments by June 16 at 23:59 UTC! http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/draft-ssr-role-remit-17may12-en. htm The who are interested in this issue individually can make their comments in any language directly draft-ssr-role-remit(a)icann.org or contact the manager of ICANN Staff Patrick Jones patrick.jones @ icann.org <mailto:patrick.jones@icann.org?subject=More%20information%20on%20the%20DRAF T% 20Statement% 20of% 20ICANN% 27s% 20and% 20Remit 20Role% 20in% 20Security%,% 20Stabi lity% 20and% 20Resiliency% 20of% 20the% 20Internet% 27s% 20Unique% 20Identifier% 20Sy stems% 20Public% 20period 20comment%> The who are interested in forming a working group and need support logstico, come into contact with secreted. No more Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein <mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org> sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org LACRALO Secretary-ICANN / 2012-2013 - <http://atlarge.icann.org> http://atlarge.icann.org 2009-2012 Secretary FLUI sylvia_leite = Skype Descrio: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/d2dd4a17bd.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] All Latin America
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com May 27, 2012

May 27, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: All Latin America From: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Aquestuna version of Google translation of Roosevelt's comments ================================= Hello to all members, It has become difficult not to notice what may be called a demonstration of his power in Latin America. First an attempt to ignore the fact that the English Course is the official language and I'm seeing statements of the working groups that should be done decisin on the language that the group would work in. If the official language of ICANN is the English, it is important that Ingls is used and not a mixture of German, Spanish, French or otherwise, as the words have different meanings and connotations in different idiomas.Esto is important to be consistent. No matter the language, the language uses should not be compromised.You can not understand something like Ingls and then let someone more the comprehension of a differently due to differences of language or interpretation. For example, I'm listening reference to the President, as President, which states that Trasnlation into Spanish for "the President" is "the President ". In English, there is a clear distinction between a President and a President, ascomo there a difference between the "sovereign" and "ms high making organ "of an organization. The highest organ of decisin ms at any organization also estsujeto to rules. He can not even break their own rules and as s a matter of fact, so well that serjuzgado has been able to observe their own rules. First, when I look at the rules of LACRALO, the President refirierrneamente as President. Aques where the corruption of the President begins a word as it moves from president the president, the president.Then, upon taking office, President l starts acting like a president, but if you look at the ROP, the president's role is clearly not a an executive, but the role, a task to perform. Second, the sovereign word has no place in the process democrtico. Democracy is not about sovereignty but more good COOPERATION, dialogue, the collaboration, consultation and consensus. Sovereign connotes arbitrariness, the absolute State, a divine right to rule, etc., while democracy is the rule about people and completely contrary to most popular beliefs, not about the rule of the majority either. This is the rule of the people. In any society, there are many different people. People do not tend to be of one mind.They have diverse interests and at both have to meet, consult, dialogue and follow working with others for the benefit of todos.En any democracy, the minoras, especially, must have a voice and it seems that the LEA, although saying that they ESTN democracy obviously do not understand what the word means. This was demonstrated by Joscomo President of the General Assembly in one of many incidents when is negpreguntas on a mociny declarque the votacinslo is carried out. Next, AFTER THE votacin, someone proceeded seek clarification on what was just voted. That is one in smismo madness and certainly a lack of appreciation for the procedure democrtico as despus to vote, no one should ask for clarification. Everyone should be clear what they are voting before votacin. Therefore, do not support your choice as President of LACRALO and taking into account the dictatorial behavior of the secreted, put doubt on their understanding of democracy.While these people as personalities are very hospitable and friendly, this race to politicize LACRALO unwelcome. As a person who estacostumbrada democrticos the procedures and the process (which is my daily life), which estpor beneath my dignity to participate in any organization in which the elect believe that Regime autocrtico have the simple rules of democrticas procedures are unknown. We're not used to this. Not We are accustomed to people trying to make enforceable decisions demsy affecting trust in its authority rules and comply to do whatever they want. These issues are too simple and I have no intention of participate in meetings where people are not respected and is expected to do what they say. Pay off my childhood more than 40 years ago, not back jams. So my participation in LACRALO sermnimo if there. I can not take the childishness politizacin associated with the LACRALO. Lastly, in the same way that the coefficients of the passes have been applied to ensure that each country has one vote, is the same so that the LA should not hold all elected officials. Is LA & C. It is now only in Los Angeles. The C is missing and I am in through C many of my colleagues have taken the same position including those that went to Costa Rica and therefore, when effects of CR must be greater participation, we are not even been able to achieve this. Therefore, oppose this politizacin of LACRALO and give notice that not to participate is not for lack of interest, but to protest the politizacin. I will sit with you at a party, I sat talk, but not in the meetings of LACRALO to those charged with their progestin understand how to manage in a way democrtica. South Korea Roosevelt O.King Secretary General of the Barbados, the Association of Non Governmental # 10 Garrison, San Miguel Barbados Tel: 247-822-7707 / 254-5815 e-mail: admin(a)bango.org.bb Network: http://bangoonline.igloocommunities.com ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 * Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround * ============================= On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:31 PM, <admin(a)bango.org.bb> wrote: > Hello to all members, > > It has become hard not to notice what may be called a flexing of the Latin > American muscle. First an attempt to ignore the fact that English is the > official language and I am seeing statements from working groups that a > decision is to be made about which language the group would work in. If the > official language of ICANN is English, it is important that English is used > and not a mixture of German, Spanish, French or otherwise as words have > different meanings and connotations in different language. This is > important > so as to be consistent. It does not matter which language, whichever > language is used, it must not be compromised. We cannot be understanding > something as English allows and then somebody else understanding it a > different way because of language or interpretation differences. > > For example, I am hearing reference to the Chairman as President, where it > is said that the Spanish translation for "the Chairman" is "el Presidente". > In English, there is a clear distinction between a Chairman and a > President, > just as there is a difference between "sovereign" and the "highest-decision > making body" of an organisation. The highest decision making body in any > organisation is also subject to rules. It cannot even breach its own rules > and as a matter of fact, will be judged on how well it has been able to > observe its own rules. > > First, when I look at the rules of the LACRALO, the Chairman is erroneously > referred to as the President. This is where the corruption of the word > Chairman begins as it moves from el presidente the chairman, to President. > Then, in assuming office, the chairman begins to act like he is a > president, > but when you look at the RoP, the role of the chairman is clearly not an > executive one, but a role, a task to perform. > > Second, the word sovereign has no place in the democratic process. > Democracy > is not about sovereignty but more about cooperation, dialogue, > collaboration, consultations and consensus. Sovereignty connotes arbitrary > rule, absolute rule, a divine right to rule, etc. whereas, democracy is > about the rule of the people and quite contrary to most popular beliefs, > not > about the rule of the majority either. It is about the RULE OF THE PEOPLE. > > In any society, there are many different people. People are not usually of > one mind. They have diverse interests and hence they have to come together, > consult, dialogue and continue to work with one another for the benefit of > all. In any democracy, minorities especially must have a voice and it would > seem that the LAs, even though they are saying democracy, obviously do not > understand what the word means. This was demonstrated by Jose as Chair of > the GA in one of many incidents, when he refused questions on a motion and > declared that only voting will take place. Then after the vote, somebody > proceeded to ask for clarifications on what was just voted for. That in > itself is madness and certainly a lack of appreciation for democratic > procedure, because after voting, nobody should be asking for > clarifications. > Everybody should be clear about what they are voting for before the vote. > > I therefore do not support his election as Chairman of LACRALO and given > the > dictatorial behaviour of the Secretariat, I question their understanding of > democracy. While these people as personalities are quite hospitable and > friendly, this rush to politicise LACRALO is not welcomed. > > As a person who is accustomed to democratic procedures and process (it is > my > daily life), it is beneath my dignity to participate in any organisation > where the elected think that they have autocratic rule and simple > democratic > rules of procedures are unknown. We are not accustomed to this. We are not > accustomed to people who try to empower themselves to make decisions that > will impact others and rely on their authority to flout rules and do as > they > like. > > These matters are too elementary and I have no intention to be > participating > in meetings where people are not respected and are expected to do what they > are told. I left my childhood more that 40 years ago, never to return. > Therefore my participation in LACRALO will be very minimal if any. I can't > take the childishness associated with the politicisation of LACRALO. > > Finally, in the same way that country coefficients have been applied to > ensure that each country has only one vote, is the same way that LA should > not hold all the elected officers. It is LA & C. Right now it is only LA. > The C is missing and I am among the C. many of my colleagues have taken the > same position including those that went to CR and therefore, when the > aftermath of CR should be more participation, we are not even able to > achieve this given. > > I therefore object to this politicisation of LACRALO and give notice that > not participating is not for lack of interest but in protest of the > politicisation. I will sit with you at a party, I will sit and chat, but > not > at LACRALO meetings until those charged with its management understand how > to manage in a democratic manner. > > > ROK > Roosevelt O. King > Secretary General > Barbados Association of Non Governmental Organisations > #10 Garrison, St. Michael > Barbados, Caribbean > Tel: 247-822-7707 / 254-5815 > e-mail: admin(a)bango.org.bb > Network: http://bangoonline.igloocommunities.com > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/11542ad7d1.html --]]

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That UK Cookie Law
by Carlton Samuels May 27, 2012

May 27, 2012

The updated EU e-Privacy Directives came into effect yesterday, 26th May, 2012. UK law requires website operators to ask a website user’s permission when placing certain kinds of cookie on their visiting terminal devices, subject to penalties for infraction. And the UK's Information Commissioner has released updated guidelines. Pickup explanations as well as guidelines from here: http://www.ico.gov.uk/for_organisations/privacy_and_electronic_communicatio… A few observations the law makes no concession to regulations or laws of the physical place where the site is domiciled. Neither does it make distinction for ownership of the terminal device used to access the website. It seems to be silent as well on technical complexities such as cloud computing. The Regulator concedes "*implied consent*" is indeed a valid form of consent even as the law requires “*informed consent*”. Seems they are all over the shop on this one. Regardless, site operators bear the burden of a user with difficulties in understanding the cookie requirement enough to be called 'informed'; The Regulations are not prescriptive about the sort of information that should be provided, but the text should be *sufficiently full and intelligible to allow individuals to clearly understand* the potential consequences of allowing storage and access to the information collected by the device should they wish to do so". Note the term 'clearly understand'. In other words, user ignorance..........or, worse, congenital disability....is not a defense. The law does exempts operators from compliance: 1. When providing purely transit services 2. When providing so-called 'information society' services The International Chamber of Commerce (ICC) has also issued a useful UK Cookie [compliance] Guide. See it here: http://www.international-chamber.co.uk/components/com_wordpress/wp/wp-conte… - Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] And we're making history .....
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org May 27, 2012

May 27, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: And we're making history ..... From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org That will be good to highlight something positive, not result in a history of confrontations. This just sounds to me: am not congratulated me for what I did, but others s, then I must note. I think it's time to work without having to highlight achievements personal past, present or future. I would like to hear statements of work, how to improve things, say "I do" instead of "I". Unfortunately SQUE this with Trasnlation into English only llegartbNL> trash, but take responsibility to past and current drivers Therefore our region. I am not satisfied that "esttrabajando it." Translation An evil always brings misunderstandings, despite the very "Goodwill" of those hiding their "personal interests, try to conceal or justify it, and even to make statements about it. Please list members who do not understand in English Trasnlation (As I do not understand the Spanish in Translation), I request to my email staff (asoto(a)ibero-americano.org) that the envitraducida or original in Spanish for you the traduzacan. With pleasure I will make. Sb already a member of the list we have done on your own. But this is not the solution!!!!!!!! Best Regards ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com Posted on: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:27 pm To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] And we're making history ..... [[- Translated text (in -> en) -]] Subject: Re: And we're making history ..... From: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com S, the reason is secreted ...LACRALO was the first to sign the Memorandum of Understanding - I was particularly insistent that when I was Chair of ALAC and work for has all THIN seal Memoranda of Understanding by the end of my term, I the arregl. However, I would like to point out a NARALO was the first to bring RALO concerns of end users ICANN travs the first Report issues requested by an AC, PDP and approved by the Board of politics on the test domain, a project led by Alan Greenberg. If we are in a mood of felicitacin, kudos to the RALO that have specific end-user contributions to POLICIES ICANN, which, as all deberamos have in mind is the reason why the RALO were formed in the first place. I hope that the achievement of the milestones that are really effective LACRALO global politics to the Internet, ICANN travs Policy How the Board, and not just be complacent with regard to issues internal administrative regions. There have been several initiatives that were presented POLICIES LACRALO in consideracin recent past, which LACRALO considercomo not a group, but were accepted and approved by ALAC when re-submitted directly as individual proposals for consideration ALAC. Unfortunately, LACRALO representatives were not present in the meeting of ALAC in CR in this votacin was taken. I think the Declaration of the group in SNCC is an excellent starting point, although close involvement in the development of such, and find that send to a more and more inclusive policy group. As Chair of ALAC in 2006-2007, I spent an enormous amount time trying to get my region up first, and has been very painful to see RALO other passes over us and take the initiative in the work of politics.I hope that the creation of these working groups will lead, sooner or later, to LACRALO taking the leadership position that is expected in 2005-2007, when spent hundreds of hours of work in their training and commissioning practice. Sincerely Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: ubiquitous, necessary, invisible and Free. (After Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) On Friday, May 25, 2012 at 15:58, <sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: And we are making history ..... > From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > Dear Members of LACRALO > > > I want to thank everyone who participated in the conference call > yesterday. > > > > > We are at a very special and active in LACRALO. And as well as > mencionOlivier Crepin-Leblon, Chair of the ALAC, we were the first > RALO to sign the MOU, and now we are also the first to organize > groups RALO working on crucial issues of our region. This is a story > to share with all RALO, because ultimately we are the House End Users > of the World and all should benefit!. > > > > > > > Special thanks to Fatima Cambronero and Natalia Enciso for having > invited to our continuous cycle of capacitacina Karla Valente, > Director ICANN's gTLD with the Registry. > > > And Karla Valente, our thank you very much for your time and > congratulations on an exhibition as clear and precise. > > > > > > > See details and all the subjects discussed, this footer link (Thanks > tb the Staff to place this so fast in the Wiki) > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/LACRALO+24.05.2012+Telecon > ferenc > and > > > Regards > > > Sylvia > > > ___________________________________________________ > > > Sylvia Herlein > > > <mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org> sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org > > > LACRALO Secretary-ICANN / 2012-2013 - <http://atlarge.icann.org> > http://atlarge.icann.org > > > 2009-2012 Secretary FLUI > > > sylvia_leite = Skype > > > Descrio: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil > > > > > > > > > [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/7aa6f21d83.html --]]

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About Teleconference
by jumaropi＠yahoo.com May 27, 2012

May 27, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: About Teleconference From: jumaropi(a)yahoo.com Dear Staff, I would like to know when to estarn available audio of the call held last May 24, 2012. I've been looking at the wiki but not an interest me are available and accessible to them and I could not partake of it. Waiting for a prompt response, Sincerely, JUAN MANUEL ROJAS Social Communicator President-AGEIA DENSIColombia Twitter: @ JmanuRojas Join LACRALO: https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/d1477b16b4.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: Recognition for the work of the Working Groups LACRALO
by apisan＠unam.mx May 27, 2012

May 27, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: RES: Recognition for the work of the Working Groups LACRALO From: apisan(a)unam.mx Sylvia, I ask you please add me to Estratgica Planeacin GT, and access to documents and recordings of sessions that have already generated. Thanks a lot. Alejandro Pisanty ! ! ! !! NEW PHONE NUMBER - NEW PHONE NUMBER FROM ABROAD +52-1-5541444475 FROM +525541444475 MXICO SMS +525541444475 Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM, University Avenue 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Ph. +52- (1) -55-5105-6044, +52- (1) -55-5418-3732 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org [sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org] Posted on: sbado, May 26, 2012 14:07 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] RES: Recognition for the work of the Working Groups LACRALO [[- Translated text (in -> en) -]] Subject: RES: Recognition for the work of the Working Groups LACRALO From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Dear Carlton: Aquestsu order (or what I understand this). Planning Estratgico - Planificacin estratgica ELA Communication Communication ELA Lyrics Translation An ELA Governance. Government ELA REPRESENTED REPRESENTED REPRESENTED REPRESENTED Alberto Soto IIDISI-Argentina Alfredo Lopez ENTANGLEMENT - Colombia Dev Anand Teelucksingh CTT - Trinidad and Tobago Alberto Soto IIDISI - Argentina Dev Anand Teelucksingh CTT - Trinidad and Tobago Dev Anand Teelucksingh CTT - Trinidad and Tobago Gilberto Lara Connexin - El Salvador Ana Sanchez ISOC - Ecuador Freddy Linares ISOC - PertbNL> Gilberto Lara Connexin - El Salvador Humberto Carrasco IDA - Chile Antonio Medina ACUI - Colombia Gilberto Lara Connexin - El Salvador Guillermo Zamora ADIAR - Argentina JosArce AGEIA DENSI Dev Anand Teelucksingh CTT - Trinidad and Tobago Johnny Laureano AUI - PertbNL> Jacqueline Morris CTT - Trinidad and Tobago Juan Rojas AGEIA DENSI-Colombia Fatima Cambronero AGEIA DENSI-Argentina Jose Arce AGEIA DENSI - Argentina Jose Arce AGEIA DENSI - Argentina Michael Forde ISB - Barbados Freddy Linares ISOC - PertbNL> Raul Bauer USER - Argentina Juan Rojas AGEIA DENSI - Colombia Sylvia Herlein Internet - Brazil Humberto Carrasco IDA - Chile Roosevelt King BANGO - Barbados Marcelo Telez Internet - Argentina Jose Arce AGEIA DENSI-Argentina Sergio Bronstein Internet - Venezuela Roosevelt King BANGO - Barbados José Luis Barzallo AEDIT - Ecuador Lawrence Zelris ICT 4 D - Jamaica Joseph Salguerio AVEDINT - Venezuela Juan Rojas AGEIA DENSI - Colombia Natalia Enciso APADIT - Paraguay With respect to the ALS 40 LACRALO, we are in the database ICANN https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/LACRALO+ALSes We are working on it). Regards, Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein <mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org> sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org ~ ~ V LACRALO Secretariat, ICANN / 2012-2013 - <http://atlarge.icann.org> http://atlarge.icann.org FLUI Secretariat 2009-2012 sylvia_leite = Skype Descrio: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil From: Carlton Samuels [mailto: carlton.samuels @ gmail.com] Posted in: Friday, May 25, 2012 19:29 To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: Sylvia internautabrasil Assunto: Recognition for the work of the Working Groups LACRALO Dear LACRALO Secretariat: You have sent to the list, a list of the members of Working LACRALO Newly formed groups. We are told that much of the work of the ICANN policy is being made by the Commonwealth Members who are not official representatives of the Commonwealth. I am decided that we should not let labor in the shadows, but are recognized. We look forward to the rest of us in LACRALO and all At-Large should know how our 40 ALS-accredited with two slopes, are engaged. Now I'm requesting additional information about your activity on our behalf will be published. It is also very important to the world of At-Large constituency know the affiliation of these dedicated, perhaps, to share experiences. For the complete record, please identify and, in addition to their names, search the system for each member. In addition, please publish the list data for each of these working groups. Kind regard, - Carlton Samuels ============================== Carlton Samuels A Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Planning, Government, Evaluation and deadlines ============================= [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/22239ab883.html --]]

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RES: RES: Recognition for the work of the Working Groups LACRALO
by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org May 26, 2012

May 26, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: RES: RES: Recognition for the work of the Working Groups LACRALO From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org SORRY! I'm sending again attached. Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org LACRALO Secretary-ICANN / 2012-2013 - http://atlarge.icann.org 2009-2012 Secretary FLUI sylvia_leite = Skype ----- Mensagem Original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Posted in: sbado, May 26, 2012 16:08 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: [lac-discuss-en] RES: Recognition for the work of Working Groups LACRALO [[- Translated text (in -> en) -]] Subject: RES: Recognition for the work of the Working Groups LACRALO From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Dear Carlton: Aquestsu order (or what I understand this). Planning Estratgico - Planificacin estratgica ELA Communication Communication ELA Lyrics Translation An ELA Governance. Government ELA REPRESENTED REPRESENTED REPRESENTED REPRESENTED Alberto Soto IIDISI-Argentina Alfredo Lopez ENTANGLEMENT - Colombia Dev Anand Teelucksingh CTT - Trinidad and Tobago Alberto Soto IIDISI - Argentina Dev Anand Teelucksingh CTT - Trinidad and Tobago Dev Anand Teelucksingh CTT - Trinidad and Tobago Gilberto Lara Connexin - El Salvador Ana Sanchez ISOC - Ecuador Freddy Linares ISOC - PertbNL> Gilberto Lara Connexin - El Salvador Humberto Carrasco IDA - Chile Antonio Medina ACUI - Colombia Gilberto Lara Connexin - El Salvador Guillermo Zamora ADIAR - Argentina JosArce AGEIA DENSI Dev Anand Teelucksingh CTT - Trinidad and Tobago Johnny Laureano AUI - PertbNL> Jacqueline Morris CTT - Trinidad and Tobago Juan Rojas AGEIA DENSI-Colombia Fatima Cambronero AGEIA DENSI-Argentina Jose Arce AGEIA DENSI - Argentina Jose Arce AGEIA DENSI - Argentina Michael Forde ISB - Barbados Freddy Linares ISOC - PertbNL> Raul Bauer USER - Argentina Juan Rojas AGEIA DENSI - Colombia Sylvia Herlein Internet - Brazil Humberto Carrasco IDA - Chile Roosevelt King BANGO - Barbados Marcelo Telez Internet - Argentina Jose Arce AGEIA DENSI-Argentina Sergio Bronstein Internet - Venezuela Roosevelt King BANGO - Barbados José Luis Barzallo AEDIT - Ecuador Lawrence Zelris ICT 4 D - Jamaica Joseph Salguerio AVEDINT - Venezuela Juan Rojas AGEIA DENSI - Colombia Natalia Enciso APADIT - Paraguay With respect to the ALS 40 LACRALO, we are in the base data ICANN https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/LACRALO+ALSes We are working on it). Regards, Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein <mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org> sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org ~ ~ V LACRALO Secretariat, ICANN / 2012-2013 - <http://atlarge.icann.org> http://atlarge.icann.org FLUI Secretariat 2009-2012 sylvia_leite = Skype Descrio: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil From: Carlton Samuels [mailto: carlton.samuels @ gmail.com] Posted in: Friday, May 25, 2012 19:29 To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: Sylvia internautabrasil Assunto: Recognition for the work of the Working Groups LACRALO Dear LACRALO Secretariat: You have sent to the list, a list of the members of LACRALO Work Newly formed groups. We are told that much of the work of the ICANN policy is doing for the ELA Members who are not official representatives of the Commonwealth. I am decided that we should not let labor in the shadows, but are recognized. We look forward to the rest of us and all of LACRALO At-Large should know how our 40 ALS-accredited with two slopes are compromised. Now I'm requesting additional information about your activity on our name published. It is also very important to the world of At-Large constituency know the affiliation of these dedicated, perhaps, to share experiences. For the complete record, please identify and, in addition to its names, search the system for each member. In addition, please publish the list data for each of these in work groups. Kind regard, - Carlton Samuels ============================== Carlton Samuels A Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Planning, Government, Evaluation and deadlines ============================= [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/86dff46a77.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] =? Iso-8859-1? Q? RES = 3A__Toda_Am = E9rica_Latina? =
by apisan＠unam.mx May 26, 2012

May 26, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? RES = 3A__Toda_Am = E9rica_Latina? = From: apisan(a)unam.mx Sylvia, amme seems very clear to Roosevelt's message in an translation. Now, if not understood, tcomo translator and can secrete responsible for providing a translation since Roosevelt's message, supplemented by Jackie's worth ledo by all. Who ESTN according podrn whether manifest or not, and who have responsibilities in questioning POLICIES Roosevelt and Jackie would do well to express their positions. Alejandro Pisanty ! ! ! !! NEW PHONE NUMBER - NEW PHONE NUMBER FROM ABROAD +52-1-5541444475 FROM +525541444475 MXICO SMS +525541444475 Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM, University Avenue 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Ph. +52- (1) -55-5105-6044, +52- (1) -55-5418-3732 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org [sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org] Posted on: sbado, May 26, 2012 9:22 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] RES: Any Latin America Thanks Dev for re-send this message. This is another of the problems we have to solve in the mailing list. One sends a message to your mailing list, thinking that automatically saldren the other list and sometimes they are not. And thanks Alberto, to confirm that you really can not understand a Translation An like this, until you lose the original meaning of the text. Luckily we are working seriously on this to fix it. Greetings to all, Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org LACRALO Secretary-ICANN / 2012-2013 - http://atlarge.icann.org 2009-2012 Secretary FLUI sylvia_leite = Skype ----- Mensagem Original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome of Alberto Copse Posted in: sbado, May 26, 2012 00:55 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] A Latin America Dear Dev, it means absolutely nothing for the poor translation. Best Regards Alberto Soto ----- Original Message ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of devtee(a)gmail.com Posted on: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:44 pm To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: All America Latina [[- Translated text (in -> en) -]] Subject: Re: All America Latina From: devtee(a)gmail.com Dear All, Think of this message has not reached the list of ES, so re-Envo back "as is" with the hope that the list veren ES - Dev Anand ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <admin at bango.org.bb> Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 18:31 Subject: [lac-discuss-en] all of Latin America To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Hello to all members, It has become difficult not to notice what may be called a demonstration of American Msculo America.First an attempt to ignore the fact that the official language is English Course and I am seeing statements of the working groups a the decision must be made on the language that the group would work in. If the official language ICANN is Ingls, it is important that the Ingls is used and not a mixture of words in German, Spanish, French or otherwise have different meanings and connotations in different idiomas.Esto is ascomo important to be consistent. No matter the language, what language is used, should not be compromised. There can be something as comprehension Inglsy then let someone more the comprehension of a way different due to differences of language or interpretation. For example, I'm listening reference to the President, as President, which is said Trasnlation into Spanish for "the President" is "the President". In English, there is a clear distinction between a President and a President, and there is a difference between "sovereign" and "higher making organ "of an organization. The highest organ of decision in any organization is also subject to rules. Or can even break their own rules and as a matter of fact, will be judged by how well it has been able to observe its own rules. First, when I look at the rules of LACRALO, the President is erroneously known as the President. This is where the corruption of the President begins term as it moves from the President of the president, the president. Then, upon taking office, President begins to act like he is a president, but when you look at the ROP, the president's role is clearly an executive, but the role, a task to perform. Second, the sovereign word has no place in the process democratic.Democracy is not about sovereignty but rather cooperation, dialogue, collaboration, consultation and consensus. The sovereignty connotes arbitrary rule, an absolute rule, a divine right to rule, etc., while democracy is on the status of people and completely contrary to the beliefs popular, not about majority rule either. This is the rule of the people. In any society, there are many different people. People do not tend to be of one mind. They have diverse interests and at both have to come together, consultation, dialogue and continue working with others for the benefit of all. In any democracy, especially minorities should have a voice and it seems that the LEA, although they are saying democracy obviously do not understand what palabra.Esto means was demonstrated by the President of the Joseph General Assembly in one of many incidents when he refused questions on a motion and stated that the vote will take place only.A then after the vote, someone proceeded to ask clarification on what was just voted. That in itself is crazy and, certainly a lack of appreciation for democratic procedure, since After voting, no one should ask for clarification. Everyone should be clear about what they are voting before vote. Therefore, do not support his election as President of LACRALO and given the dictatorial behavior of the Secretariat, I lay in doubt their knowledge of democracy. While these people as personalities are very hospitable and friendly, this race to politicize LACRALO unwelcome. As a person who is accustomed to democratic procedures and process (which is my daily life), which is below my dignity to participate in any organization where elected believe they have a single autocratic and democratic rules procedures are unknown.We're not used to not esto.Nosotros We are accustomed to people trying to make enforceable decisions that affect others and rely on its authority to tease rules and do what they like. These issues are too simple and I have no intention of participate in meetings where people are not respected and is expected to do what they are told. I left my childhood more than for 40 years, never to return. So my participation in LACRALO will be minimal if any. Not I can take the infantilism associated with the politicization of LACRALO. Finally, in the same way as the coefficients of the countries have applied to ensure that each country has one vote, is the same so that Los Angeles should not hold all elected officials. It This LA & C. It is now only in Los Angeles. The C is missing and I am among the many C.of my colleagues have taken the same position including those who were in CR and at Therefore, when the after CR should be greater participation, or we can achieve even this proposal. Therefore, oppose this politicization of LACRALO and give notice of not participate is not for lack of interest, but to protest the politización.Voy to sit with you at a party, sit down to talk, but not in the meetings of LACRALO to those charged with their management understand how to manage in a democratic manner. South Korea Roosevelt O. King Secretary General of the Barbados, the Association of Non Governmental # 10 Garrison, St. Michael Barbados Tel: 247-822-7707 / 254-5815 e-mail: admin in bango.org.bb Network: http://bangoonline.igloocommunities.com _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/cbbc58ffa5.html --]]

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by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org May 26, 2012

May 26, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? RES = 3A__Comnetarios_p = FAblicos_so? == Iso-8859-1? Q? Ber = 3D__Draft_Statement_on_ICANN = 27s_role_and_remit? == Iso-8859-1? Q? _in_SSR? = From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Alexander Thanks for your feedback which Sern taken into account! We are already taking orders by the Staff. Regards, Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org LACRALO Secretary-ICANN / 2012-2013 - http://atlarge.icann.org 2009-2012 Secretary FLUI sylvia_leite = Skype ----- Mensagem Original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome of Dr. Baruch Alejandro Pisanty Posted in: Friday, May 25, 2012 20:43 To: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org; lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] = Comnetarios pblicos on Draft Statement on ICANN's role and remit in SSR Sylvia, Thanks for spreading this announcement.The document announces and Rodrigo ICANN put to consultation is the first tangible result of the process compliance audit functions related to stability, security and robustness of the DNS to be obligICANN in the statement about Commitments. The paper proposes a delimitacin the scope of the functions of ICANN, something that many in the community see fit and that our Review Team recogiy transmitidesde its first draft report. It is therefore extremely important that our community is expressed by despus respect of a good study - and QUNO, a discussion - the document. I think the level of agregacin of information presented in ICANN Estal proposed scope of the analysis tools and times work of our community so LACRALO be particularly relevant to our elected officials organize the discussion soon for results and facilitate the community to make a contribution will substantive, relevant to the region, and timely. For my part I am unable to "move" the discussion on my behalf in the SSR-RT, but being on the same charge, totally at the disposal to inform, clarify, and provide background and detail information of the frame that is developed in this document POLICIES. I insist that is a altsima tendruna document jerarquay serde importance prctica as well. Receive all regards. Alejandro Pisanty ! ! ! !! NEW PHONE NUMBER - NEW PHONE NUMBER FROM ABROAD +52-1-5541444475 FROM +525541444475 MXICO SMS +525541444475 Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM, University Avenue 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Ph. +52- (1) -55-5105-6044, +52- (1) -55-5418-3732 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the UNAM group on LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org [sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 15:31 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] = Comnetarios pblicos on Draft Statement on ICANN's role and remit in SSR Dear Members of LACRALO Vena There follows a reminder sent to us by the Vice for Latin America ICANN, Rodrigo de la Parra: Friends, We have published a document estsujeto audience to comment on the role that ICANN should have regard to the Stability and Safety nical devices, Internet identifiers. Much agradecerdifundir them among its members, communities and friends stakeholders this document to encourage their participation. From already thank you very much, -------------------------- Rodrigo de la Parra <mailto:rodrigo.delaparra@icann.org> rodrigo.delaparra @ icann.org Vice President for Latin America Vice President for Latin America ICANN One World, One Internet We send our comments by June 16 at 23:59 UTC! http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/draft-ssr-role-remit-17may12-en. htm The who are interested in this issue individually can make their comments in any language directly draft-ssr-role-remit(a)icann.org or contact the manager of ICANN Staff Patrick Jones patrick.jones @ icann.org <mailto:patrick.jones@icann.org?subject=More%20information%20on%20the%20DRAF T% 20Statement% 20of% 20ICANN% 27s% 20and% 20Remit 20Role% 20in% 20Security%,% 20Stabi lity% 20and% 20Resiliency% 20of% 20the% 20Internet% 27s% 20Unique% 20Identifier% 20Sy stems% 20Public% 20period 20comment%> The who are interested in forming a working group and need support logstico, come into contact with secreted. No more Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein <mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org> sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org LACRALO Secretary-ICANN / 2012-2013 - <http://atlarge.icann.org> http://atlarge.icann.org 2009-2012 Secretary FLUI sylvia_leite = Skype Descrio: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/fd386f5ce6.html --]]

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