May 2012 - lac-discuss-en - lists.icann.org

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by apisan＠unam.mx May 19, 2012

May 19, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? RES = 3A_Idioma_de_la_ICANN_Proyect? == Iso-8859-1? Q? O_de_Servicios_de_Pol = EDticas_y_Procedimientos_para_coment? == Iso-8859-1? Q? Ario_p = FAblico? = From: apisan(a)unam.mx Sylvia, all the issue of language has always drawn to me LACRALO attention. STILL unresolved issues are open like the chat in Spanish. If you have been a cause for concern today must be to deal with. Which are the main actions proposed by our officials and representatives for comment LACRALO audience? Greetings. Alejandro Pisanty ! ! ! !! NEW PHONE NUMBER - NEW PHONE NUMBER FROM ABROAD +52-1-41444475 FROM +525541444475 MXICO Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM, University Avenue 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Ph. +52- (1) -55-5105-6044, +52- (1) -55-5418-3732 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org [sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org] Posted on: sbado, May 19, 2012 6:04 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [lac-discuss-en] RES: ICANN Language Services Project Policies and Procedures for audience comments Thank you for sharing this important Dev information!! We need everyone's comments! Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org LACRALO Secretary-ICANN / 2012-2013 - http://atlarge.icann.org 2009-2012 Secretary FLUI sylvia_leite = Skype ----- Mensagem Original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome devtee(a)gmail.com Posted in: Friday, May 18, 2012 22:36 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Language of the ICANN Draft Policies and Services Procedures for audience comments [[- Translated text (in -> en) -]] Subject: Language of the ICANN Draft Policies and Services Procedures for audience comments From: devtee(a)gmail.com Dear All, ICANN Language Services is presented for comment its draft audience Services and Procedures Policy How Linguistics. ICANN language services include: * Translation An * The interpretation Simultaneous * Teleconference interpretation * The transcript (of the recorded sessions) * Designs (transcript in real time - RTT) The cost prestacin multilingual service quality has two main objectives: * Make the information about ICANN and its work accessible to those who speak languages \u200b\u200bother than English Course in order to increase the participation and efficacy of the model of multiple parts. * Make more effective organization ICANN as a whole. You can read the language of the draft Services Directive and Procedures: http://www.icann.org/en/about/participate/language-services/draft-policies-p rocedures-18may12-en.pdf (English Course) http://www.icann.org/es/about/participate/language-services/draft-policies-p rocedures-18may12-en.pdf (Espaol) http://www.icann.org/fr/about/participate/language-services/draft-policies-p rocedures-18may12-fr.pdf (Francs) Best regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society http://ttcsweb.org/ ~ ~ V _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/e5667c7778.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] [NA-Discuss] REMINDER: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement - Deadline for Comments 17 May
by Alan Greenberg May 19, 2012

May 19, 2012

I'm afraid that although I have some problems with the proposed vision statement, I do not think that these changes go in the right direction. Two main reasons: - To say that the At-Large Community (and not the upper case C as per the ICANN Bylaw definition) is there to strenghten the RALOs is a largely circular definition as the RALOs are a core integral part of the ALC. - Listing that we exist to select a Board member sends a VERY wrong message in my mind. It is a perk of participating in the ICANN ecosystem, but is certainly not our raison d'être. The issue of ALAC over At-Large can be addressed by simply reversing their order. Regarding the original statement, I find "catalyzes" the perfect word here, from a point of view of meaning, but do question whether it will be as good in translation. Alan At 15/05/2012 09:39 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote: >Hi everyone, > >Thanks for circulating this draft Vision Statement. I would have liked to >see a clear plain language and easily translatable Vision. Phrases >like "brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters" are just vague in >my opinion. Vision Statements must have a mechanism of measurement as to >whether they are being met or not and therefore must be precise. > >Also I find it is inapt for the ALAC to be the first structure mentioned in >an At Large Vision statement. Perhaps the intention is the mix the two? But >I would advise against this route, and instead suggest providing a Vision >Statement of ALAC separately. > >My amended proposed At-Large Vision Statement is: > >* The At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates inclusive, >tangible and >meaningful participation of Internet end-users worldwide in ICANN matters, >particularly through its work in strengthening the RALOs, its >representation by the ALAC and its selection of the ICANN At-Large Board >Member. > >Kind regards > >Cintra Sooknanan > > > >On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff < >staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > A friendly reminder that the comment period for the proposed At-Large > > Vision > > Statement closes on Thursday, 17 May. > > > > > > > > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is: > > > > * The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates > > inclusive, > > meaningful participation of Internet end-users world-wide, aggregates > > their input and brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters. > > > > > > > > Please use the comments function on this > > <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> wiki page to add any suggestions or > > send your comments to At-Large Staff at: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> > > staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie > > Peregrine > > > > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC > > > > E-mail: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > From: ICANN At-Large Staff [mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org] > > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM > > To: alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; > > 'afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org'; apralo; Discussion for At-Large > > Europe; LACRALO discussion list; 'lac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org'; > > NARALO Discussion List > > Cc: 'Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond'; 'Cheryl Langdon-Orr'; ICANN At-Large Staff > > Subject: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > The ALAC Improvements Review WG Final Report included a recommendation that > > "the ALAC should develop strategic and operational planning processes > > (including performance criteria and cost information) as part of ICANN's > > planning process." (Recommendation 5 > > <https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/Recommendation+5> ). > > > > > > > > As part of the implementation of this recommendation, the At-Large > > Improvements Implementation Work Team C created an action item to > > "articulate ALAC's and At-Large's vision and mission." > > > > > > > > The At-Large Improvements Taskforce developed a proposed At-Large Vision > > Statement during their meeting at the 43rd ICANN Meeting in Costa Rica. > > > > > > > > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is: > > > > . The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates > > inclusive, meaningful participation of Internet end-users world-wide, > > aggregates their input and brings their voice to bear in all ICANN > > matters. > > > > > > > > > > Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, and Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Chair of > > the At-Large Improvements Taskforce, have outlined the following next steps > > for the proposed At-Large Vision Statement: > > > > . 4-17 May 2012 - This proposed At-Large Vision statement is open > > for comments between 4-17 May 2012. Please use the comments function on > > this > > wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> to add any suggestions > > or > > send your comments to At-Large Staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. > > > > . 21 May 2012 - The At-Large Improvements Taskforce will review and > > incorporate comments received during their 21 May meeting. > > > > . 22 May 2012 - The ALAC will review the proposed At-Large Vision > > Statement during their 22 May ALAC meeting and vote whether to ratify it. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie > > Peregrine > > > > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC > > > > E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-en mailing list > > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > > >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------

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by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org May 19, 2012

May 19, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? RES = 3A_Idioma_de_la_ICANN_Proyect? == Iso-8859-1? Q? O_de_Servicios_de_Pol = EDticas_y_Procedimientos_para? == Iso-8859-1? Q? _comentario_p = FAblico? = From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Thank you for sharing this important Dev information!! We need everyone's comments! Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org LACRALO Secretary-ICANN / 2012-2013 - http://atlarge.icann.org 2009-2012 Secretary FLUI sylvia_leite = Skype ----- Mensagem Original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome devtee(a)gmail.com Posted in: Friday, May 18, 2012 22:36 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Assunto: Language of the ICANN Draft Policies and Services Procedures for audience comments [[- Translated text (in -> en) -]] Subject: Language of the ICANN Draft Policies and Services Procedures for audience comments From: devtee(a)gmail.com Dear All, ICANN Language Services is presented for comment its draft audience Services and Procedures Policy How Linguistics. ICANN language services include: * Translation An * The interpretation Simultaneous * Teleconference interpretation * The transcript (of the recorded sessions) * Designs (transcript in real time - RTT) The cost prestacin multilingual service quality has two main objectives: * Make the information about ICANN and its work accessible to those who speak languages \u200b\u200bother than English Course in order to increase the participation and efficacy of the model of multiple parts. * Make more effective organization ICANN as a whole. You can read the language of the draft Services Directive and Procedures: http://www.icann.org/en/about/participate/language-services/draft-policies-p rocedures-18may12-en.pdf (English Course) http://www.icann.org/es/about/participate/language-services/draft-policies-p rocedures-18may12-en.pdf (Espaol) http://www.icann.org/fr/about/participate/language-services/draft-policies-p rocedures-18may12-fr.pdf (Francs) Best regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society http://ttcsweb.org/ ~ ~ V _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/24555fce3b.html --]]

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ICANN's Draft Language Services Policy and Procedures posted for public comment
by Dev Anand Teelucksingh May 19, 2012

May 19, 2012

Dear All, ICANN Language Services is submitting for public comment its draft Language Services Policy and Procedures. ICANN's language services include: * Translation * Simultaneous interpretation * Teleconference interpretation * Transcription (of recorded sessions) * Scribing (Real Time Transcription - RTT) The cost-effective provision of high quality multilingual services has two main objectives: * make information about ICANN and its work accessible to those who speak languages other than English in ways that enhance participation in and the effectiveness of the multistakeholder model. * Make ICANN more effective as a global organization. You can read the Draft Language Services Policy and Procedures at : http://www.icann.org/en/about/participate/language-services/draft-policies-… (English) http://www.icann.org/es/about/participate/language-services/draft-policies-… (Spanish) http://www.icann.org/fr/about/participate/language-services/draft-policies-… (French) Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society http://ttcsweb.org/

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Fwd: Whither the LIST
by Carlton Samuels May 18, 2012

May 18, 2012

Is this true? -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <lac-discuss-owner(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [NA-Discuss] REMINDER: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement - Deadline for Comments 17 May To: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com This list has been discontinued. It has been replaced by: LAC-Discuss-EN - English Version - subscribe for english at http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-list… LAC-Discuss-ES - version espanol - Pueda inscribirse en las listas a partir de ahora - http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-list… ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> To: Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca>, lac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org, LACRALO discussion list < lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, ICANN At-Large Staff < staff(a)atlarge.icann.org>, alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org, NARALO Discussion List <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 09:32:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [NA-Discuss] REMINDER: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement - Deadline for Comments 17 May Y'all know I find these things gimmicky and IMHO, not worth a hill of gully beans. The Committee is wrong-headed on this. If you look at it, the bye-laws state the reason and care well enough already. We must encourage our colleagues to read some more, especially the foundation instruments. And these labels just don't cut it! All this aside, I cannot compete with Jacqueline's - cum Alan's - analysis. +1. -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com > wrote: > I agree with Alan, and think that the details of Board member > selection and so on are not particularly suited to a vision statement. > However, the proposed statement is a little clumsy to my eyes, > especially in the use of the singular verb forms to refer to the > plural subject "ALAC AND the At-Large Community". > > With regard to the fact that it is a vision statement of the At-Large, > I don't see the need to expressly include the ALAC or RALOs at all, > given that they are both integral parts of the Community. > > Jacqueline A. Morris > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and > Free. (after Chris Lehmann ) > > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Alan Greenberg > <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: > > I'm afraid that although I have some problems > > with the proposed vision statement, I do not > > think that these changes go in the right direction. Two main reasons: > > > > - To say that the At-Large Community (and not the > > upper case C as per the ICANN Bylaw definition) > > is there to strenghten the RALOs is a largely > > circular definition as the RALOs are a core integral part of the ALC. > > > > - Listing that we exist to select a Board member > > sends a VERY wrong message in my mind. It is a > > perk of participating in the ICANN ecosystem, but > > is certainly not our raison d'être. > > > > The issue of ALAC over At-Large can be addressed > > by simply reversing their order. > > > > Regarding the original statement, I find > > "catalyzes" the perfect word here, from a point > > of view of meaning, but do question whether it will be as good in > translation. > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > At 15/05/2012 09:39 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote: > >>Hi everyone, > >> > >>Thanks for circulating this draft Vision Statement. I would have liked to > >>see a clear plain language and easily translatable Vision. Phrases > >>like "brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters" are just vague in > >>my opinion. Vision Statements must have a mechanism of measurement as to > >>whether they are being met or not and therefore must be precise. > >> > >>Also I find it is inapt for the ALAC to be the first structure mentioned > in > >>an At Large Vision statement. Perhaps the intention is the mix the two? > But > >>I would advise against this route, and instead suggest providing a Vision > >>Statement of ALAC separately. > >> > >>My amended proposed At-Large Vision Statement is: > >> > >>* The At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates inclusive, > >>tangible and > >>meaningful participation of Internet end-users worldwide in ICANN > matters, > >>particularly through its work in strengthening the RALOs, its > >>representation by the ALAC and its selection of the ICANN At-Large Board > >>Member. > >> > >>Kind regards > >> > >>Cintra Sooknanan > >> > >> > >> > >>On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff < > >>staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> wrote: > >> > >> > Dear All, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > A friendly reminder that the comment period for the proposed At-Large > >> > Vision > >> > Statement closes on Thursday, 17 May. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is: > >> > > >> > * The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates > >> > inclusive, > >> > meaningful participation of Internet end-users world-wide, > aggregates > >> > their input and brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Please use the comments function on this > >> > <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> wiki page to add any > suggestions or > >> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at: <mailto: > staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > >> > staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and > Nathalie > >> > Peregrine > >> > > >> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC > >> > > >> > E-mail: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > From: ICANN At-Large Staff [mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org] > >> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM > >> > To: alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; > >> > 'afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org'; apralo; Discussion for > At-Large > >> > Europe; LACRALO discussion list; 'lac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > '; > >> > NARALO Discussion List > >> > Cc: 'Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond'; 'Cheryl Langdon-Orr'; ICANN At-Large > Staff > >> > Subject: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Dear All, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > The ALAC Improvements Review WG Final Report included a > recommendation that > >> > "the ALAC should develop strategic and operational planning processes > >> > (including performance criteria and cost information) as part of > ICANN's > >> > planning process." (Recommendation 5 > >> > <https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/Recommendation+5> ). > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > As part of the implementation of this recommendation, the At-Large > >> > Improvements Implementation Work Team C created an action item to > >> > "articulate ALAC's and At-Large's vision and mission." > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > The At-Large Improvements Taskforce developed a proposed At-Large > Vision > >> > Statement during their meeting at the 43rd ICANN Meeting in Costa > Rica. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is: > >> > > >> > . The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates > >> > inclusive, meaningful participation of Internet end-users > world-wide, > >> > aggregates their input and brings their voice to bear in all ICANN > >> > matters. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, and Cheryl Langdon-Orr, > Chair of > >> > the At-Large Improvements Taskforce, have outlined the following next > steps > >> > for the proposed At-Large Vision Statement: > >> > > >> > . 4-17 May 2012 - This proposed At-Large Vision statement is > open > >> > for comments between 4-17 May 2012. Please use the comments function > on > >> > this > >> > wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> to add any > suggestions > >> > or > >> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. > >> > > >> > . 21 May 2012 - The At-Large Improvements Taskforce will > review and > >> > incorporate comments received during their 21 May meeting. > >> > > >> > . 22 May 2012 - The ALAC will review the proposed At-Large > Vision > >> > Statement during their 22 May ALAC meeting and vote whether to ratify > it. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and > Nathalie > >> > Peregrine > >> > > >> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC > >> > > >> > E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > lac-discuss-en mailing list > >> > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > >> > > >>------ > >>NA-Discuss mailing list > >>NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >> > >>Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > >>------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-en mailing list > > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >

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by apisan＠unam.mx May 18, 2012

May 18, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Re: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? REMINDER = 3A_Solicitud_de_Come? == Iso-8859-1? Q? Ntarios = 3A_Proyecto_de_At-Large_Declaraci = F3n_de_la_Visi? == Iso-8859-1? Q? = F3n_ -_Fecha_l = EDmite_para_observaciones_17_de_mayo? = From: apisan(a)unam.mx Hi all, I consider it essential that the vision of At-Large include the construction of a network of trust between organizations and that based on this trust that we produce confidence in the voice of users an when we are not made with a formal global representation. The concept of "Web of Trust" is key to winning trust, transparency and accountability rendicin. No stas, the whole concept of At-Large is weakened to near collapse. If there is consensus on this issue, we must promote it. Alejandro Pisanty ! ! ! !! NEW PHONE NUMBER - NEW PHONE NUMBER FROM ABROAD +52-1-41444475 FROM +525541444475 MXICO Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM, AvUniversity 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Ph. +52- (1) -55-5105-6044, +52- (1) -55-5418-3732 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com [jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com] Posted on: Thursday, May 17, 2012 15:51 To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: lac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; LACRALO discussion list; NARALO Discussion List; ICANN At-Large Staff; alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: REMINDER: Request for Comments: At-Large Draft Declaration of the vision - closing date for comments 17 May [[- Translated text (in -> en) -]] Subject: Re: REMINDER: Request for Comments: At-Large Draft Declaration of the vision - closing date for comments 17 May From: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com I agree with Alan, and I think the detail member of the Board assucesivamente selecciny are not particularly suitable for a Declaration of vision. However, the proposed Declaration is a bit awkward, in my eyes, especially in the use of the verb forms to refer to the singular plural subject ", ALAC and At-Large". With regard to the fact that vision is a Declaration of the At-Large, I see no need to explicitly include or RALO ALAC at all, given that both are integral parts of the Community. Jacqueline A. Morris The technology should be like oxygen: ubiquitous, necessary, invisible and Free. (AfterChris Lehmann) On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 15:04, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> escribitbNL> > I'm afraid that although I have some problems > with the proposed vision statement, I do not > think that these changes go in the right direction. Two main reasons: > > - To say that the At-Large Community (and not the > upper case C as per the ICANN Bylaw definition) > is there to strenghten the RALOs is a largely > circular definition as the RALOs are a core integral part of the ALC. > > - Listing that we exist to select a Board member > sends a VERY wrong message in my mind. It is a > perk of participating in the ICANN ecosystem, but > is certainly not our raison d'être. > > The issue of ALAC over At-Large can be addressed > by simply reversing their order. > > Regarding the original statement, I find > "catalyzes" the perfect word here, from a point > of view of meaning, but do question whether it will be as good in translation. > > Alan > > > > At 15/05/2012 09:39 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote: >>Hi everyone, >> >>Thanks for circulating this draft Vision Statement. I would have liked to >>see a clear plain language and easily translatable Vision. Phrases >>like "brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters" are just vague in >>my opinion. Vision Statements must have a mechanism of measurement as to >>whether they are being met or not and therefore must be precise. >> >>Also I find it is inapt for the ALAC to be the first structure mentioned in >>an At Large Vision statement. Perhaps the intention is the mix the two? But >>I would advise against this route, and instead suggest providing a Vision >>Statement of ALAC separately. >> >>My amended proposed At-Large Vision Statement is: >> >>* The At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates inclusive, >>tangible and >>meaningful participation of Internet end-users worldwide in ICANN matters, >>particularly through its work in strengthening the RALOs, its >>representation by the ALAC and its selection of the ICANN At-Large Board >>Member. >> >>Kind regards >> >>Cintra Sooknanan >> >> >> >>On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff < >>staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> wrote: >> >> > Dear All, >> > >> > >> > >> > A friendly reminder that the comment period for the proposed At-Large >> > Vision >> > Statement closes on Thursday, 17 May. >> > >> > >> > >> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is: >> > >> > * The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates >> > inclusive, >> > meaningful participation of Internet end-users world-wide, aggregates >> > their input and brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters. >> > >> > >> > >> > Please use the comments function on this >> > <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> wiki page to add any suggestions or >> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> >> > staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. >> > >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie >> > Peregrine >> > >> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC >> > >> > E-mail: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org >> > >> > >> > >> > From: ICANN At-Large Staff [mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org] >> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM >> > To: alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; >> > 'afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org'; apralo; Discussion for At-Large >> > Europe; LACRALO discussion list; 'lac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org'; >> > NARALO Discussion List >> > Cc: 'Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond'; 'Cheryl Langdon-Orr'; ICANN At-Large Staff >> > Subject: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement >> > >> > >> > >> > Dear All, >> > >> > >> > >> > The ALAC Improvements Review WG Final Report included a recommendation that >> > "the ALAC should develop strategic and operational planning processes >> > (including performance criteria and cost information) as part of ICANN's >> > planning process." (Recommendation 5 >> > <https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/Recommendation+5> ). >> > >> > >> > >> > As part of the implementation of this recommendation, the At-Large >> > Improvements Implementation Work Team C created an action item to >> > "articulate ALAC's and At-Large's vision and mission." >> > >> > >> > >> > The At-Large Improvements Taskforce developed a proposed At-Large Vision >> > Statement during their meeting at the 43rd ICANN Meeting in Costa Rica. >> > >> > >> > >> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is: >> > >> > . The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates >> > inclusive, meaningful participation of Internet end-users world-wide, >> > aggregates their input and brings their voice to bear in all ICANN >> > matters. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, and Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Chair of >> > the At-Large Improvements Taskforce, have outlined the following next steps >> > for the proposed At-Large Vision Statement: >> > >> > . 4-17 May 2012 - This proposed At-Large Vision statement is open >> > for comments between 4-17 May 2012. Please use the comments function on >> > this >> > wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> to add any suggestions >> > or >> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. >> > >> > . 21 May 2012 - The At-Large Improvements Taskforce will review and >> > incorporate comments received during their 21 May meeting. >> > >> > . 22 May 2012 - The ALAC will review the proposed At-Large Vision >> > Statement during their 22 May ALAC meeting and vote whether to ratify it. >> > >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie >> > Peregrine >> > >> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC >> > >> > E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > lac-discuss-en mailing list >> > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >> > >>------ >>NA-Discuss mailing list >>NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >> >>Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >>------ > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/b6268c67ef.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-en] RECORDATORIO: Solicitud de Comentarios: Proyecto de At-Large Declaración de la Visión - Fecha límite para observaciones 17 de mayo
by Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch May 18, 2012

May 18, 2012

Hola todos, me parece indispensable que la visión de At-Large incluya la construcción de una red de confianza entre las organizaciones y que con base en esa confianza produzca confianza en que llevamos la voz de los usuarios aún cuando no estemos constituidos con una representación global formal. El concepto de "Web of Trust" es clave para ganar confianza, transparencia y rendición de cuentas. Sin éstas, todo el concepto de At-Large se debilita hasta casi desmoronarse. Si hay consenso a este respecto, debemos impulsarlo. Alejandro Pisanty ! !! !!! !!!! NEW PHONE NUMBER - NUEVO NÚMERO DE TELÉFONO +52-1-41444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO Dr. Alejandro Pisanty UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ________________________________________ Desde: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com [jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com] Enviado el: jueves, 17 de mayo de 2012 15:51 Hasta: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: lac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; LACRALO discussion list; NARALO Discussion List; ICANN At-Large Staff; alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: Re: RECORDATORIO: Solicitud de Comentarios: Proyecto de At-Large Declaración de la Visión - Fecha límite para observaciones 17 de mayo [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: RECORDATORIO: Solicitud de Comentarios: Proyecto de At-Large Declaración de la Visión - Fecha límite para observaciones 17 de mayo De: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com Estoy de acuerdo con Alan, y creo que los detalles de miembro de la Junta selección y así sucesivamente, no son particularmente adecuados para una declaración de visión. Sin embargo, la propuesta de declaración es un poco torpe, a mis ojos, especialmente en el uso de las formas verbales singulares para referirse a la sujeto plural ", ALAC y la Comunidad At-Large". Con respecto al hecho de que es una declaración de visión de la En-Grande, No veo la necesidad de incluir expresamente a la ALAC o RALO en absoluto, teniendo en cuenta que ambos son partes integrantes de la Comunidad. Jacqueline A. Morris La tecnología debe ser como el oxígeno: Ubicua, necesaria, invisible y Gratis. (AfterChris Lehmann) El Jue, 17 de mayo de 2012 a 15:04, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> escribió: > I'm afraid that although I have some problems > with the proposed vision statement, I do not > think that these changes go in the right direction. Two main reasons: > > - To say that the At-Large Community (and not the > upper case C as per the ICANN Bylaw definition) > is there to strenghten the RALOs is a largely > circular definition as the RALOs are a core integral part of the ALC. > > - Listing that we exist to select a Board member > sends a VERY wrong message in my mind. It is a > perk of participating in the ICANN ecosystem, but > is certainly not our raison d'être. > > The issue of ALAC over At-Large can be addressed > by simply reversing their order. > > Regarding the original statement, I find > "catalyzes" the perfect word here, from a point > of view of meaning, but do question whether it will be as good in translation. > > Alan > > > > At 15/05/2012 09:39 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote: >>Hi everyone, >> >>Thanks for circulating this draft Vision Statement. I would have liked to >>see a clear plain language and easily translatable Vision. Phrases >>like "brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters" are just vague in >>my opinion. Vision Statements must have a mechanism of measurement as to >>whether they are being met or not and therefore must be precise. >> >>Also I find it is inapt for the ALAC to be the first structure mentioned in >>an At Large Vision statement. Perhaps the intention is the mix the two? But >>I would advise against this route, and instead suggest providing a Vision >>Statement of ALAC separately. >> >>My amended proposed At-Large Vision Statement is: >> >>* The At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates inclusive, >>tangible and >>meaningful participation of Internet end-users worldwide in ICANN matters, >>particularly through its work in strengthening the RALOs, its >>representation by the ALAC and its selection of the ICANN At-Large Board >>Member. >> >>Kind regards >> >>Cintra Sooknanan >> >> >> >>On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff < >>staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> wrote: >> >> > Dear All, >> > >> > >> > >> > A friendly reminder that the comment period for the proposed At-Large >> > Vision >> > Statement closes on Thursday, 17 May. >> > >> > >> > >> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is: >> > >> > * The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates >> > inclusive, >> > meaningful participation of Internet end-users world-wide, aggregates >> > their input and brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters. >> > >> > >> > >> > Please use the comments function on this >> > <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> wiki page to add any suggestions or >> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> >> > staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. >> > >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie >> > Peregrine >> > >> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC >> > >> > E-mail: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org >> > >> > >> > >> > From: ICANN At-Large Staff [mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org] >> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM >> > To: alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; >> > 'afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org'; apralo; Discussion for At-Large >> > Europe; LACRALO discussion list; 'lac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org'; >> > NARALO Discussion List >> > Cc: 'Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond'; 'Cheryl Langdon-Orr'; ICANN At-Large Staff >> > Subject: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement >> > >> > >> > >> > Dear All, >> > >> > >> > >> > The ALAC Improvements Review WG Final Report included a recommendation that >> > "the ALAC should develop strategic and operational planning processes >> > (including performance criteria and cost information) as part of ICANN's >> > planning process." (Recommendation 5 >> > <https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/Recommendation+5> ). >> > >> > >> > >> > As part of the implementation of this recommendation, the At-Large >> > Improvements Implementation Work Team C created an action item to >> > "articulate ALAC's and At-Large's vision and mission." >> > >> > >> > >> > The At-Large Improvements Taskforce developed a proposed At-Large Vision >> > Statement during their meeting at the 43rd ICANN Meeting in Costa Rica. >> > >> > >> > >> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is: >> > >> > . The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates >> > inclusive, meaningful participation of Internet end-users world-wide, >> > aggregates their input and brings their voice to bear in all ICANN >> > matters. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, and Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Chair of >> > the At-Large Improvements Taskforce, have outlined the following next steps >> > for the proposed At-Large Vision Statement: >> > >> > . 4-17 May 2012 - This proposed At-Large Vision statement is open >> > for comments between 4-17 May 2012. Please use the comments function on >> > this >> > wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> to add any suggestions >> > or >> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. >> > >> > . 21 May 2012 - The At-Large Improvements Taskforce will review and >> > incorporate comments received during their 21 May meeting. >> > >> > . 22 May 2012 - The ALAC will review the proposed At-Large Vision >> > Statement during their 22 May ALAC meeting and vote whether to ratify it. >> > >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie >> > Peregrine >> > >> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC >> > >> > E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > lac-discuss-en mailing list >> > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >> > >>------ >>NA-Discuss mailing list >>NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >> >>Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >>------ > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/378d43e9d2.html --]]

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REMINDER: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement - Deadline for Comments 17 May
by ICANN At-Large Staff May 17, 2012

May 17, 2012

Dear All, A friendly reminder that the comment period for the proposed At-Large Vision Statement closes on Thursday, 17 May. The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is: * The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates inclusive, meaningful participation of Internet end-users world-wide, aggregates their input and brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters. Please use the comments function on this <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> wiki page to add any suggestions or send your comments to At-Large Staff at: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie Peregrine ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org From: ICANN At-Large Staff [mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM To: alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; 'afri-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org'; apralo; Discussion for At-Large Europe; LACRALO discussion list; 'lac-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org'; NARALO Discussion List Cc: 'Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond'; 'Cheryl Langdon-Orr'; ICANN At-Large Staff Subject: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement Dear All, The ALAC Improvements Review WG Final Report included a recommendation that "the ALAC should develop strategic and operational planning processes (including performance criteria and cost information) as part of ICANN's planning process." (Recommendation 5 <https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/Recommendation+5> ). As part of the implementation of this recommendation, the At-Large Improvements Implementation Work Team C created an action item to "articulate ALAC's and At-Large's vision and mission." The At-Large Improvements Taskforce developed a proposed At-Large Vision Statement during their meeting at the 43rd ICANN Meeting in Costa Rica. The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is: . The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates inclusive, meaningful participation of Internet end-users world-wide, aggregates their input and brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters. Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, and Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Chair of the At-Large Improvements Taskforce, have outlined the following next steps for the proposed At-Large Vision Statement: . 4-17 May 2012 - This proposed At-Large Vision statement is open for comments between 4-17 May 2012. Please use the comments function on this wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> to add any suggestions or send your comments to At-Large Staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. . 21 May 2012 - The At-Large Improvements Taskforce will review and incorporate comments received during their 21 May meeting. . 22 May 2012 - The ALAC will review the proposed At-Large Vision Statement during their 22 May ALAC meeting and vote whether to ratify it. Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie Peregrine ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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RES: Call Blocking PDP WG volunteers UDRP domain
by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org May 17, 2012

May 17, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: RES: Call Blocking PDP WG volunteers UDRP domain From: sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org Thanks Juan Manuel for this important information. Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org LACRALO Secretary-ICANN / 2012-2013 sylvia_leite = Skype ----- Mensagem Original ----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome of John Manuel Rojas Posted in: Wednesdays, May 16, 2012 17:28 To: LACRALO Espaol Assunto: [lac-discuss-en] Call Blocking domains volunteers PDP WG UDRP The Council laGNSOiniciun POLICIES development process on blocking a domain name subject to the policy procedures RESOLUTION Uniform Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP). Now that has been approved charter for a working group has issued a call for volunteers. Look in the Wiki for WG.It will be interesting who they are working in this issue can be united to contribute. https://community.icann.org/display/udrpproceedings/Home JUAN MANUEL ROJAS Social Communicator President-AGEIA DENSIColombia Twitter: @ JmanuRojas Join LACRALO: https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/5dc2cec7ae.html --]]

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Call for volunteers UDRP Domain Locking PDP WG
by jumaropi＠yahoo.com May 16, 2012

May 16, 2012

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] Subject: Call for volunteers UDRP Domain Locking PDP WG From: jumaropi(a)yahoo.com The Council laGNSOiniciun POLICIES development process on the blocking of a domain name subject to the procedures of the Uniform Policy How RESOLUTION Dispute (UDRP). Now that it has approved the charter for a working group has issued a call for volunteers. Look in the Wiki for WG. It will be interesting who they are working on that topic can be united to contribute. https://community.icann.org/display/udrpproceedings/Home JUAN MANUEL ROJAS Social Communicator President-AGEIA DENSIColombia Twitter: @ JmanuRojas Join LACRALO: https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (es) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/71ae853d33.html --]]

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