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Follow-up on IGF and WSIS Forum
by Wolf Ludwig May 20, 2009

May 20, 2009

Dear all, as discussed at today’s call, here some additional infos on the last IGF consultations last week in Geneva (Heise Online in German) http://www.heise.de/newsticker/China-Viele-Regierungen-filtern-das-Netz--/m… and http://blog.internetgovernance.org/ and the ongoing WSIS Forum http://www.itu.int/wsis/implementation/2009/forum/geneva/docs/WSIS_Forum_20…. -- what was not very substantial for me – missed opportunities again. Best, Wolf comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch - EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org

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WG: New ALS applications -- Regional Advice E-Seniors + AUI SP
by Wolf Ludwig May 20, 2009

May 20, 2009

Dear all, we received two new applications from AUI of Spain and E-senior form France to become certified ALSes of EURALO. In the meantime, staff submitted the respective DD-forms (see attachments). After the last EURALO call (21 April 09) some of us already had a look on it and sent their remarks (see below). Now, our regional advise on the applicants is required. To get further responses from EURALO members, we are forwarding the DD-forms to the list. If no OBJECTIONS are raised within the next 7 days (until 18 May 09) the applications will be considered as approved by EURALO. Thanks for any further inputs and comments. Best, Wolf ____ Jefsey wrote 22/04/2009 19:09: I certainly understand the common law difference between a "person" and a "corporation", but I have a difficulty in understanding the difference among legal kinds of "users". The way we consider @large is throught their contribution to usage. It happens that we have no current corporation on our list as such, but we certainly have associations chair who are there more than in personnal capacity ? Adam Peake wrote 22/04/2009 14:51: I thought AUI was a business users association? AUI was represented on the first names council, active in the DNSO and creation of ICANN (and pre ICANN). If they exist to serve individuals, fine, if corporations, not fine. Of course individuals can be commercial (a point we still need to make in the GNSO stakeholder group formation process.) Sébastien Bachollet wrote 21/04/2009 23:34: I had a quick look to the 2 DD (AUI of Spain and E-senior form France). It seems that they can be qualified to be ALSs. _____ Matthias Langenegger wrote Sun, 19 Apr 2009 08:10: >Dear Wolf and Dessi, > >On March 22nd, we received an ALS application from the E-Seniors, an organization based in Paris. Please find the Due Diligence form attached. > >We kindly ask you to provide us with the regional advice for this application in your capacity as EURALO officers. Your advice will support the review of the At-Large Advisory Committee on this application. > >According to our timeline for ALS applications, the due date for the regional advice is May 10th. Due to delays with the due diligence form we are currently a couple of daysw behind schedule. We would like to encourage you therefore to provide us with regional advise for this application within the next two weeks to ensure that we can still finish the process in time. > >We would like to remind you that the DD form could contain sensitive information. Please read it carefully before sending it off to third parties. > >Regards, > >Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White, Marie-Helene Bouchoms >ICANN At-Large Staff >email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch - EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] Reminder: EURALO Teleconference on Wednesday 20 May at 15:00 UTC/17:00 CEST
by William Drake May 18, 2009

May 18, 2009

Sorry, I'll be at an ITU meeting. Bill On May 17, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Sébastien Bachollet wrote: > Sorry, > I will be in a plane at that time. > Good meeting > All the best > > Sébastien Bachollet > Président d'honneur - Isoc France > sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr > www.egeni.org > www.isoc.fr > > >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss- >> bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de At Large Staff >> Envoyé : dimanche 17 mai 2009 05:48 >> À : euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> Cc : ICANN AtLarge Staff >> Objet : [EURO-Discuss] Reminder: EURALO Teleconference on Wednesday >> 20 >> May at 15:00 UTC/17:00 CEST >> >> Dear All, >> >> >> >> This is to remind you that the next EURALO teleconference is >> scheduled, >> for >> Wednesday, 20 May at 15:00 UTC/17:00 CEST. Please note that this >> schedule >> reflects an exceptional re-scheduling of the EURALO monthly >> teleconference >> to a Wednesday rather than a Tuesday. >> >> >> >> Please find a draft agenda and additional details at: >> https://st.icann.org/euralo/index.cgi?20_may_2009. >> >> >> >> If you require dial-outs, please let us know at: >> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella >> Gruber- >> White, >> Marie-Helene Bouchoms >> ICANN At-Large Staff >> email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> EURO-Discuss mailing list >> EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge- >> lists.icann.org >> >> Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org *********************************************************** William J. Drake Senior Associate Centre for International Governance Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies Geneva, Switzerland william.drake(a)graduateinstitute.ch www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html ***********************************************************

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] Reminder: EURALO Teleconference on Wednesday 20 May at 15:00 UTC/17:00 CEST
by Annette Muehlberg May 17, 2009

May 17, 2009

i will try my best, but as i am in a conference it will not be easy. the only way i can try is via mobiel this means that i need to be called!!! can someone of staff please take care of that? thank you annette -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "Sébastien Bachollet" <sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr> > Gesendet: 17.05.09 10:29:07 > An: "'Discussion for At-Large Europe'" <euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Reminder: EURALO Teleconference on Wednesday 20 May at 15:00 UTC/17:00 CEST > Sorry, > I will be in a plane at that time. > Good meeting > All the best > > Sébastien Bachollet > Président d'honneur - Isoc France > sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr > www.egeni.org > www.isoc.fr > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss- > > bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de At Large Staff > > Envoyé : dimanche 17 mai 2009 05:48 > > À : euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Cc : ICANN AtLarge Staff > > Objet : [EURO-Discuss] Reminder: EURALO Teleconference on Wednesday 20 > > May at 15:00 UTC/17:00 CEST > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > This is to remind you that the next EURALO teleconference is scheduled, > > for > > Wednesday, 20 May at 15:00 UTC/17:00 CEST. Please note that this > > schedule > > reflects an exceptional re-scheduling of the EURALO monthly > > teleconference > > to a Wednesday rather than a Tuesday. > > > > > > > > Please find a draft agenda and additional details at: > > https://st.icann.org/euralo/index.cgi?20_may_2009. > > > > > > > > If you require dial-outs, please let us know at: > > staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber- > > White, > > Marie-Helene Bouchoms > > ICANN At-Large Staff > > email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > EURO-Discuss mailing list > > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge- > > lists.icann.org > > > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > --

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Reminder: EURALO Teleconference on Wednesday 20 May at 15:00 UTC/17:00 CEST
by At Large Staff May 17, 2009

May 17, 2009

Dear All, This is to remind you that the next EURALO teleconference is scheduled, for Wednesday, 20 May at 15:00 UTC/17:00 CEST. Please note that this schedule reflects an exceptional re-scheduling of the EURALO monthly teleconference to a Wednesday rather than a Tuesday. Please find a draft agenda and additional details at: https://st.icann.org/euralo/index.cgi?20_may_2009. If you require dial-outs, please let us know at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White, Marie-Helene Bouchoms ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] Date for next EURALO call
by Heike Jensen May 13, 2009

May 13, 2009

Hi Wolf and all, If we are finished by 18:00 my time, Wednesday would be ok for me. Cheers, Heike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sébastien Bachollet" <sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr> To: "'Discussion for At-Large Europe'" <euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Date for next EURALO call Dear Wolf, It is important for you (and us) that you are fully available for this meeting in Geneva. But I will not be able to participate to a call on Wednesday - I will be travelling to US the same day. But go ahead. I could be available the following day if needed. All the best Sébastien Bachollet Président d'honneur - Isoc France sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr www.egeni.org www.isoc.fr > -----Message d'origine----- > De : euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss- > bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Wolf Ludwig > Envoyé : mardi 12 mai 2009 16:50 > À : 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' > Objet : [EURO-Discuss] Date for next EURALO call > > Dear all, > > as I am booked at the beginning of next week > (18.-19.05.) at the WSIS-Forum in Geneva, > I would like to ask you to postpone our monthly > call - exceptionally! - by one day, from Tuesday > to Wednesday? Please let me know whether this > change to Wednesday, 20 May 09, 17:00 CEST > (Geneva time) would be ok for you. > > Thanks and regards, > Wolf > > > > > comunica-ch > phone +41 79 204 83 87 > Skype: Wolf-Ludwig > www.comunica-ch.net > > Digitale Allmend > http://blog.allmend.ch - > > EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation > http://euralo.org > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge- > lists.icann.org > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org _______________________________________________ EURO-Discuss mailing list EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org

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Date for next EURALO call
by Wolf Ludwig May 12, 2009

May 12, 2009

Dear all, as I am booked at the beginning of next week (18.-19.05.) at the WSIS-Forum in Geneva, I would like to ask you to postpone our monthly call - exceptionally! - by one day, from Tuesday to Wednesday? Please let me know whether this change to Wednesday, 20 May 09, 17:00 CEST (Geneva time) would be ok for you. Thanks and regards, Wolf comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch - EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org

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Todays's EC Hearing on Internet Governance
by Wolf Ludwig May 6, 2009

May 6, 2009

The European Commission is hosting a hearing on 6 May / today on future Internet Governance arrangements – see: http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/internet_gov/index_en.htm Prior to this, EC Commissioner Viviane Reding published a message transcript, available at http://ec.europa.eu/commission_barroso/reding/video/text/message_20090504.p… On Monday, there was an article in the Computerworld “EU urges U.S. to share control of ICANN with other countries” saying that the European commissioner called today for a new multilateral approach to Internet governance once the current system expires at the end of September. In a video blog posted on her website Viviane Reding, according to Computerworld, also suggested setting up an independent judicial body as well as an intergovernmental body, possibly based on the G12 forum of governments from around the world, to oversee ICANN in future. For more details: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&art… I can follow Mrs. Reding in some assessments like the “...global nature of the Internet to pave the way in September for a new, more accountable, more transparent, more democratic and more multilateral form of Internet governance". But I don’t agree with her suggestions and outlined solutions of “a successor body of the same name that is fully privatized” and at the same time “an intergovernmental body, possibly based on the G12 forum of governments from around the world, to oversee ICANN in future”. To me, it’s again the old power and control perspective and I don’t see how Mrs. Reding’s construct would be “more accountable, more transparent, more democratic” than the present US-based system, except perhaps “more multilateral”. If governments and heads of states take over (G12 forum), it will be the end of open multi-stakeholder foras like IGF, EuroDIG and any participation from civil society actors. Mrs. Reding’s “informal group of government representatives” is purely governmental like the old telecom regime. I can imagine, the ITU will be pleased about her idea. These are just some of my thoughts. Best, Wolf comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net Digitale Allmend http://blog.allmend.ch - EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org

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Fwd: [ALAC-Internal] Fwd: Re: [GTLD-WG] URGENT- ALAC statement on IRTP report
by Patrick Vande Walle May 4, 2009

May 4, 2009

Good morning to all. I am moving this discussion to the general Euralo list in the hope to fuel discussion and/or agreement. Some context: I was tasked by the ALAC to draft a preliminary statement on the IRTP report http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#irtpdr The deadline for submitting comments to the IRTP drafting group is 6 May at 00:00 UTC Given that the procedures inside the ALAC may actually make it difficult to agree on the comments before the deadline, the Euralo chair suggested to the Euralo board that the Euralo should submit the draft comments on its own behalf. Up to now, the draft has received quite some support from Euralo board members. https://st.icann.org/gnso-liaison/index.cgi?draft_statements_related_to_irt… Please note that this *preliminary* statement may always be revised later. However, we should keep in mind that it will set the overall direction of our comments. Hence, if you disagree on the fundamentals of this draft, please say so now. Thanks for your help, Patrick Vande Walle -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] [ALAC-Internal] Fwd: Re: [GTLD-WG] URGENT- ALAC statement on IRTP report Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 22:37:01 +0200 From: Wolf Ludwig <wolf.ludwig(a)comunica-ch.net> To: "Discussion for At-Large Europe" <euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Reply-To: Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Dear Patrick, thanks a lot for your draft of a (ALAC) statement on the IRTP report. Your draft actually reflects most of my concerns and I hope it will be approved by the ALAC, given the narrow deadline of May 5th (what means next Tuesday!). Thanks again for your excellent work and kind regards, Wolf Patrick Vande Walle wrote Sat, 02 May 2009 21:38: >To follow up on the request made during last week's teleconference, I >have drafted the following statement. >https://st.icann.org/gnso-liaison/index.cgi?draft_statements_related_to_irt… > >The discussions on the new gtld list focused mainly on the composition >of the IRTP working group, its lack of balance and the fact that most >members were from - or close to - the IPC. Several members of At-Large >mentioned they volunteered for the WG, but were not included. >Hong had concerns regarding the fact that these proposed rules were in >contradiction with international trade mark law. Bret Faussett made a >comment about the fact the URS process is not limited in time. His >comment is included in extenso. > >The draft statement tries to capture all these remarks. > >I am not sure which process the chair wishes to follow to have some some >of approval from the ALAC, given the deadline is May 5th. > >Patrick > -- Blog: http://patrick.vande-walle.eu Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/patrickvw Identica: http://identi.ca/patrickv

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] [ALAC-Internal] Fwd: Re: [GTLD-WG] URGENT- ALAC statement on IRTP report
by Wolf Ludwig May 2, 2009

May 2, 2009

Dear Patrick, thanks a lot for your draft of a (ALAC) statement on the IRTP report. Your draft actually reflects most of my concerns and I hope it will be approved by the ALAC, given the narrow deadline of May 5th (what means next Tuesday!). Thanks again for your excellent work and kind regards, Wolf Patrick Vande Walle wrote Sat, 02 May 2009 21:38: >To follow up on the request made during last week's teleconference, I >have drafted the following statement. >https://st.icann.org/gnso-liaison/index.cgi?draft_statements_related_to_irt… > >The discussions on the new gtld list focused mainly on the composition >of the IRTP working group, its lack of balance and the fact that most >members were from - or close to - the IPC. Several members of At-Large >mentioned they volunteered for the WG, but were not included. >Hong had concerns regarding the fact that these proposed rules were in >contradiction with international trade mark law. Bret Faussett made a >comment about the fact the URS process is not limited in time. His >comment is included in extenso. > >The draft statement tries to capture all these remarks. > >I am not sure which process the chair wishes to follow to have some some >of approval from the ALAC, given the deadline is May 5th. > >Patrick > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC-Internal mailing list >ALAC-Internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge-lists… > >ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac >At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org > comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 Skype: Wolf-Ludwig www.comunica-ch.net Digitale Allemd http://blog.allmend.ch - EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation http://euralo.org

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