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Introduction
by Siranush Vardanyan March 7, 2008

March 7, 2008

Dear EURALO mailing list members, Hope that some of you know me personally, I am Siranush from Armenia, an alumni for the First Summer School on IG in Germany in 2007 and 31st ICANN Fellow in New Delhi. I am happy to become the part of this group and also will try to contribute from my side as much as possible to the effective discussions taking place here. Congratulations everyone with the Spring, more sun and smile to all of you Siranush Armenia _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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Happy Women's Day!!!
by Veronica Cretu March 7, 2008

March 7, 2008

Dear ALAC/AtLarge Colleagues! This is to bring the warmest wishes for ALL Women on ALAC/AtLarge, ALL WOMEN within the ICANN community and not only:) ... with the International Women's Day and with the Spring! In our part of the world, we do celebrate March the 8th and it is an important holiday for us, so this is to share with you the spirit of the coming Holiday! « You can do almost anything you put your mind to ... ... You can swim the deepest ocean and climb the highest peak, ... Be a doctor or fly a plane, ... You can face adversity and still walk tall, ... You can be very active in ALAC/AtLarge and ICANN Community:), ... You are strong, beautiful, compassionate and much more than words could ever say! Today is yours, and so is every other day!» Happy Women's Day to all mothers, wives, daughters, sisters and everyone else we have close at heart! Happy Holiday from Moldova, as ever, Veronica

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 17, Issue 9
by rafik dammak March 6, 2008

March 6, 2008

Dear Nick, I am already subscribed since months to Afri-discuss mailing list (which has really low activity) and I have just joined the EURALO list to learn more about the activities. Of course Tunisia is a part of Africa (and even the Africa name is derived from the ancient latin name of Tunisia) but Tunisia has laos economic agreement with EU and has privileged relationships with European countries . Regards Rafik On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:01 PM, < euro-discuss-request(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote: > Send EURO-Discuss mailing list submissions to > euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > euro-discuss-request(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > euro-discuss-owner(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of EURO-Discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Short Presentation (rafik dammak) > 2. Re: Short Presentation (Nick Ashton-Hart) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:49:19 +0100 > From: "rafik dammak" <rafik.dammak(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [EURO-Discuss] Short Presentation > To: euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Message-ID: > <bbd2a2cd0803060449i57d6ce7eq49babfecaa7655b7(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello EURALO members, > > My name is Rafik Dammak and I am from Tunisia. Like Siranush and Wolf I am > also an alumni for the first summer school on IG . I also attended the > IGF2007 at Rio. > I have joined the list to be in touch with EURALO people and participating > as an observer. > > > regards > > Rafik > > PS Tunisia is near to Italy than Malta :) > > > > > > >Hope that some of you know me personally, I am Siranush from > > Armenia, an alumni for the First Summer School on IG in > > Germany in 2007 and 31st ICANN Fellow in New Delhi. I am > > happy to become the part of this group and also will try to > > contribute from my side as much as possible to the effective > > discussions taking place here. > > > > > >Congratulations everyone with the Spring, more sun and smile > > to all of > > >you > > > > > >Siranush >

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Short Presentation
by rafik dammak March 6, 2008

March 6, 2008

Hello EURALO members, My name is Rafik Dammak and I am from Tunisia. Like Siranush and Wolf I am also an alumni for the first summer school on IG . I also attended the IGF2007 at Rio. I have joined the list to be in touch with EURALO people and participating as an observer. regards Rafik PS Tunisia is near to Italy than Malta :) > > > >Hope that some of you know me personally, I am Siranush from > Armenia, an alumni for the First Summer School on IG in > Germany in 2007 and 31st ICANN Fellow in New Delhi. I am > happy to become the part of this group and also will try to > contribute from my side as much as possible to the effective > discussions taking place here. > > > >Congratulations everyone with the Spring, more sun and smile > to all of > >you > > > >Siranush

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] Comments/Questions on Summary of EURALOBoardMeeting in Geneva
by Wolf Ludwig March 5, 2008

March 5, 2008

Hi, we have not precisely decided on dates for the two Paris events. But I think it would be good to have - the Users Summit PrepCom just before the beginning of the ICANN meeting - let's say Saturday and Sunday before (21./22.06.08) - and the GA (what requires max. half-a-day) during the ICANN week (between 23 and 27 June 08). Regards, Wolf JFC Morfin wrote Sun, 02 Mar 2008 23:07: >Great! This correspondsto the invitation france@large made to guest a >meeting for all the @large being present in Paris. I understand that >this prep-ATLAS will be organised by the ALAC. Do you have decided of >the dates of the two meetings? This is important to us in relation to >national/european internet oriented specialised events we might >organise during the last week of June/first week of July. >All the best. >jfc > >At 19:10 02/03/2008, Sébastien Bachollet wrote: >>I fully agree with you Wolfgang. >>1/ is under the responsibility of EuRalo >>2/ is under the responsibility of Alac but where all the ideas of Euralo >>members are certainly more than welcome. > comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 www.comunica-ch.net http://blog.allmend.ch - Digitale Allmend

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English version of france@large ALS application
by At-Large Staff March 5, 2008

March 5, 2008

Dear all, As promised, please find attached the English version of the ALS application from france@large. -- Regards, ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] Comments/Questions on Summary of EURALOBoardMeeting in Geneva
by JFC Morfin March 3, 2008

March 3, 2008

At 17:50 03/03/2008, Wolf Ludwig wrote: >Hi, >we have not precisely decided on dates for the two Paris events. >But I think it would be good to have >- the Users Summit PrepCom just before the beginning of the >ICANN meeting - let's say Saturday and Sunday before (21./22.06.08) >- and the GA (what requires max. half-a-day) during the ICANN week >(between 23 and 27 June 08). Thank you. If you can confirm us as soon as this is decided, it would really help. I suggest you keep the Sunday morning free. All the best. jfc

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Comments/Questions on Summary of EURALO Board Meeting in Geneva
by Veronica Cretu March 3, 2008

March 3, 2008

Dear Board members, especially those who made it for Geneva meeting this week, greetings! Thank you, Wolf, for the summary of the meeting, which is highly appreciated, especially due to my absence from the meeting! Below are some questions/concerns/comments I have after reading the Summary report per concrete issues that have been discussed during the meeting: 1. “There are suggestions to reduce the size of the EURALO board to five members to make it more operational and effective” – What are the main reasons behind changing the current number of EURALO Board members? (there is no enough information from the meeting summary on this). 2. I see that there were discussions about organizing certain events BUT “As we cannot count on ICANN funding for such a side event / Users Summit PrepCom in Paris” there are ideas about „prepare and submit a project proposal for the board to be submitted to different European organizations for sponsoring”. In this context, I have the following comments/observations: If EURALO is an ICANN related/created structure – than it should be able to function on support from ICANN. In case certain proposals are submitted to ICANN for funding, they SHOULD NOT BE refused/rejected, but on the contrary, improved and developed and finally implemented. Otherwise, if we start looking for funding from other organizations, we are NOT an ICANN structure any longer. Requesting funding from other donors, EUROPEAN ones, does not mean only using money for certain purposes, but adjusting our projects/activities/mission/scope, etc. to the priorities of the grant giver. And here: EURALO should clarify its working relationship with ICANN; If EURALO starts thinking about applying for sponsorship from other organizations, then, it should re-think/review its organizational structure, mission, etc. – that are not in line with ICANN bylaws, rules, procedures any longer. Also, in regards to EURALO will submit a new budget proposal for the Fiscal Year 2008-09 to ALAC that will include several activities, and my questions/comments are: - Usually any budget is made based on a Action Plan/s for a certain period of time. Where can EURALO’s Action Plan for 2008-2009 be accessed? To what extent ALSs are involved in identification of certain activities of this Action Plan? 3. ICANN Internet users declaration and the preparation process of this Declaration: Preparing a Declaration of this kind on behalf of ICANN Internet Users raises several questions vs. concerns: The extent/degree to which ICANN Internet users are aware/informed about the current problems and challenges in the field? What ARE the current challenges, main problems in the field? What are the solutions or/and alternative decisions that are proposed OR should be taken? What are the PROs and CONs of each solution? Other. In order to find answers to the above questions, one needs both human and financial recourses. An ideal output would be a research report which would be disseminated among ICANN Internet users community and vis-à-vis which ICANN Internet Users community would take a certain attitude. This attitude is actually something that is reflected in a Declaration, and by this Declaration ICANN Internet Users would seek concrete changes/attitude from ICANN side. Is this what is meant? Is this the process that is being discussed by EURALO? I would appreciate concrete details about it, in order to be able to come with certain proposal/solutions for how that can be implemented, etc. Thank you all very much for your time and for making the Board F2F meeting become a reality for at least some members of the Board:)! Have a nice weekend ahead, Veronica

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Notes from Monday’s Geneva Meeting
by Wolf Ludwig March 3, 2008

March 3, 2008

Dear all, as promised yesterday, below you find the notes from our meeting on Monday in Geneva for review and comments: ______ Notes / Minutes from EURALOs’ first board meeting on Monday, 25 February 08, 12h00 – 15h30, at Jade Manotel, Geneva: Board members foreseen were: Annette, Desirée, Rudi, Sébastien and Wolf. Present in Geneva: Annette, Desirée, Wolf. Sébastien execused by Mail (Monday morning), no answer from Rudi. Jeanette, Bill and Wolfgang were briefed on the outcome on Tuesday (by Wolf). Proposed Agenda for this (1st) EURALO board meeting -- no supplements were suggested. (Topic 1) Briefing about ICANN’s New Delhi meeting As the board members present have all been in Delhi there is no need for a general briefing about the last ICANN conference. Wolf explained why he insisted on today’s board meeting even if our funding request has not been approved by ICANN staff again. The meeting was already agreed at our last phone conference at 17 January. And as it was said again and again that the EURALO board must have a chance to meet at least once f2f before the first GA in summer in Paris to overcome the “agony” we were accused for during the last months. (Topic 2) Options for an EURALO summit or PrepCom in Paris The idea for organising a Users’ Summit came up at ICANN’s LA meeting and Sébastien was strongly involved in the subsequent discussion and draft of a proposal in the Summit-WG. From a EURALO point of view there was a certain frustration when the global summit was postponed to the “Fiscal Year 2008-09”, to be organised somewhere else but Paris, by the ICANN board. And there have been different suggestions and ideas to use the ICANN Paris meeting *at our front door* for a common EURALO User-related project. In this context Wolfgang suggested: “I would add that we need a drafting committee. One outcome from the summit should be a "ICANN At Large & Internet Users Declaration". The Paris meeting gives us an opportunity to negotiate F2F on a text like on a PrepCom. We would need a drafting group with volunteers starting on a concrete outline and later with text.” (Wolfgang) The EURALO board (Annette, Desirée, Wolf, Jeanette, Bill and Wolfgang so far) believes that there is a need for another event for European ALSes besides the foreseen GA *based on content* with Working Groups and presentation on subjects like * Whois (volunteers Wolf with Rudi?) * A “Internet Users Declaration" * Public perception and understanding of DNS (Desirée) * Summary of ALAC’s activities (who volunteers for this part?) (any further suggestions for subjects?) Annette said that she has worked already on the “Internet Users Declaration" issue of putting together a list of items relevant for Internet users underlining some special European concern like Privacy and the Whois. Annette volunteeres to chair this WG and to set-up a Website to further discuss these subjects. The ALAC-EU / EURLAO (www.//st.icann.org/euralo/index.clgl) could be a suitable place for this. As we believe that many of our ALSes are tired from procedural debates and won’t come to Paris in summer if there is no event / programme of content and substance which may attract and mobilize them again. Therefore a common project like a European PrepCom (for a later global Users’ Summit) is considered as being essential. As we cannot count on ICANN funding for such a side event / Users’ Summit PrepCom in Paris Wolf will prepare and submit a project proposal for the board to be submitted to different European organisations for sponsoring. Part of such a PrepCom and project proposal could be an input like a “reader” with summarized position papers on subjects dealt with in Paris. (Topic 3) Draft EURALO budget for the coming fiscal year The board members (present) agreed that the current working conditions do not enable or promote RALOs’ efforts and do not allow to follow their tasks, dynamics and agenda setting. After EURALO was created in March 07 in Lisbon and the board was elected in May 07 we repeatedly asked for funding for a f2f board and outreach meeting which was refused twice. And there is no transparency so far, which of the five RALOs has requested what for their respective activities and what was approved by the staff or not. As long as we have no auto-determination and decision authority on the conduct of our activities we cannot make further progress with our work. At the Los Angeles 2007 meeting, ALAC and RALOs and staff have agreed upon clear procedures that any ALAC member or RALO representative could send in a budget proposal to the ALAC budget committee; the budget committee then coordinates the budget proposals and sends it to ALAC and RALOs and in general it is expected that if proposals within the limits of the budget, it should be approved by staff, and if it is not approved, the staff should explain why. Staff should be copied on the proposals from the very begging in order to facilitate this process. EURALO will submit a new budget proposal for the Fiscal Year 2008-09 to ALAC that will at least include -one board f2f meeting a year, -one General Assembly, -and several outreach and internet user related projects. Wolf will prepare a draft at the beginning of March, post it on the list for review and submit it afterwards to ALAC’s budget committee. (Topic 4) Planning for General Assembly in June 08 in Paris According to the by-laws EURALO and its board are supposed to organise a first General Assembly within one year. The next ICANN meeting in Paris offers the best opportunity for this GA as one representative per ALS will be invited and funded by ICANN for a meeting in its region. For a preliminary/draft GA-agenda the following points are suggested: Board Statement of Accounts, needs for revision of Bylaws (as noted in Lisbon) for example individual users participation at EURALO, discussion and approval of a EURALO working programme and projects 2008-09, approval of EURALO’s working budget 2008-09, board (re-)elections. (Topic 5) Board elections at GA in June 08 in Paris As the term of some (half) of the board members will expire in summer we have to discuss this issue at the GA in Paris. There are suggestions to reduce the size of the EURALO board to five members to make it more operational and effective. We have to clarify in advance whether any adjustments have to be made in the By-laws. (Topic 6) Other outreach activities foreseen Wolf was invited last week (21./22.02.08) to the DomainPulse 2008 in Vienna to discuss the “User perspective” and to present EURALO on a panel (moderated by Wolfgang and with participation of Roberto and others). Another outreach meeting (ICANN Studienkreis) is already foreseen in October 08 in Helsinki and EURALO should use this opportunity to find, attract and include ALSes from Scandinavia (which is a blind spot at our landscape so far). (7) Miscellaneous None This is a first draft from Monday’s meeting, discussed, modified and approved at yesterday evening’s/Tuesday meeting with Jeanette, Bill and Wolfgang. Please let us know your comments on the respective topics! If we can find further approval we could define it as a “consent paper” of the board -- and discuss further details on a next phone conference. Thanks and regards, Wolf comunica-ch phone +41 79 204 83 87 www.comunica-ch.net http://blog.allmend.ch - Digitale Allmend

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working on a EURALO draft internet users declaration
by Annette Muehlberg March 3, 2008

March 3, 2008

dear all, as an outcome of our todays euralo board meeting in geneva, i started a blog on a draft for an icann internet users declaration we might want to present at the euralo meeting in paris and use as our proposal for a global discussion on that issue. please go ahead and put in your ideas and proposals at: http://euralo.wordpress.com/ greetings annette

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