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Registry Failure Report Published / Comments Requested
by Nick Ashton-Hart June 3, 2007

June 3, 2007

Dear Colleagues: Many of you may find the information below important. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Patrick Jones" <patrick.jones(a)icann.org> > Date: 2 June 2007 21:02:31 BDT > To: <nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org> > Subject: RE: Registry Failure Report > > Nick, > > > > Yesterday we posted the registry failure report, http:// > www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-4-01jun07.htm. Can you > forward a copy to the ALAC list and encourage everyone to read the > report? I am very interested in their feedback. This report has > been in development since Sao Paulo, and will be discussed in San > Juan as part of a public forum on protections for registrants. > Comments can be sent to registry-failure-report(a)icann.org, viewed > athttp://forum.icann.org/lists/registry-failure-report/. As > always, email can also be sent to me directly. I have also posted > the report on the ICANN blog. An html version should be up by Monday. > > Thanks > > Patrick > > Patrick L. Jones > > Registry Liaison Manager > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers > > 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330 > > Marina del Rey, CA 90292 > > Tel: +1 310 301 3861 > > Fax: +1 310 823 8649 > > patrick.jones(a)icann.org

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TELECONFERENCE BRIEFING: Issues Report on Domain Tasting
by ICANN At Large Staff May 30, 2007

May 30, 2007

Dear Community Members: In order to help everyone understand the Issues Report on Domain Tasting, the place that an Issues Report has in the policy development framework of ICANN, and to allow you, the community members, to discuss and ask questions about the issues the report covers, two teleconferences are being arranged where Maria Farrell of the Policy Unit will be on hand to brief you and answer your questions. The first call is designed to be 'timezone friendly' for North and South American participants; the other for the rest of the world. If you cannot participate due to other obligations, don't worry, both teleconferences will be recorded and those recordings available for you to listen to at your convenience. LENGTH OF EACH BRIEFING: 1 Hour FIRST BRIEFING DETAILS: Monday, 4th June - 1600 - 1700 UTC / Noon Eastern, 0900 Pacific URL: https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?dt_briefing_1 SECOND BRIEFING DETAILS: Tuesday, 5th June - 0900 UTC / 1100 Brussels / 1000 Kinshasa / 1900 Sydney URL: https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?dt_briefing_1 Complete details, including local access numbers, are available from the hyperlinks in this email. Further information, the text of the Issues Report, and other reading related to the policy development process, can all be found at: https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?gnso_liaison. -- Regards, ICANN At-Large Staff Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: staff(a)alac.icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart

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Issues Report on Domain Tasting released
by Nick Ashton-Hart May 29, 2007

May 29, 2007

Dear At-Large colleagues: I have the pleasure to provide you with the Issues Report on Domain Tasting, requested by the At-Large Advisory Committee. We are having the text translated into Spanish and French. Once these versions are ready I will provide links where they can be retrieved. Maria Farrell of the Policy Unit has kindly offered to brief the community on the report and answer questions about it and what comes next. We will setup two dial-in teleconferences for the briefing, one which is for North and South America and one for Europe, Africa, and Asia. I will announce the dates and times in the coming few days. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
by Nick Ashton-Hart May 28, 2007

May 28, 2007

I think it is up to the community. From what I know of these two events, it would seem to me that these are two important and very different aspects to consider and it is worthwhile to consider them separately because each set of issues will then get more time, and therefore be explored more thoroughly, than if they shared a single timeslot. Of course, nothing would stop the two constituencies jointly convening one or the other of these events, which would provide the 'one voice' benefits you mention. Jacqueline, do you have any thoughts? On 24/05/07, "Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org <"Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org> wrote: > Dear list > > Robin Gross from IP Justice, who is also with the Non-Commercial User Constituency of the GNSO told me here in geneva during the IGF consultations that she is preparing a similar workshop on Freedom of Expression in San Juan (probably on Wednesday, June, 27, 2007. > > What do you think, should we consider to do the two workshops under one unbrella as a joint activitiy of ALAC and NCUC? The two workshops are totally independent but complement each other. Each unit would be responsible for its own workshop but coulkd benefit from the joint advertisement. Thisn could lead to a win-win-situation. And we would give the ICANN constituency as a whole a clear signal, that th voice of the users/consumers/at large members gets louder. > > Any comments? > > Wolfgang > > > ________________________________ > > Von: Annette Muehlberg [mailto:annette.muehlberg@web.de] > Gesendet: Do 24.05.2007 15:37 > An: sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr; Discussion for At-Large Europe > Cc: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang > Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > > > Sébastien, Wolfgang, > > I would like to join you in working on the GEO-TLD meeting, as we are > working on .berlin > what is the current plan? > > best > annette > > > Sébastien Bachollet schrieb: > > Sorry Wolfgang to take this old message but it contains 2 important points. > > About the so-call GEO-TLDs I would like to help you in setting up the > > meeting especially because we started some work on .paris. > > > > I am not sure I will be available during the forthcoming 8th meeting of the > > ICANN Studienkreis (October 11-12, 2007 in Warsaw) for an EURALO outreach > > meeting (Thursday, October 11, 9.00 - 15.00) but I think is a good idea. > > > > I start to work on Egeni Europe 2008 for June (just before the Icann meeting > > in Europe) and I think we need to do also something about Euralo. > > > > All the best > > > > > > Sébastien Bachollet > > Président > > sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr > > www.egeni.org > > www.isoc.fr > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Wolfgang > > Kleinwächter > > Envoyé : samedi 31 mars 2007 13:45 > > À : Discussion for At-Large Europe; Discussion for At-Large Europe; Nick > > Ashton-Hart > > Cc : Europe Discuss; Asia-Pacific Discuss > > Objet : Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > > > Sorry I forgot the proposals: > > > > 1. the prepare a workshop for San Juan on Consumer Interests on geographical > > TLDs: The working title could be "Consumer Confusion vs. Consumer Choice: > > The User Interests in GEO-TLDs". As we discussed in Lisbon, there is a > > growing number of related projects (.berlin, .nyc, .cym, .sco, .london etc) > > and there are two main arguments in favour and against. In Germany the local > > government which operates berlin.de argues that .berlin would create > > consumer confusion while the federal parliament just recently adopted a > > resolution arguing GEO-TLDs like .munich, .cologne, .saxony, .bavaria or > > .leipzig would bring more competition and more consumer choice. I expect > > that the ICANN Board if it has to take decisions on such TLDs (based on the > > GNSO Policy paper and the GAC gTLD principles) will need some input form the > > user perspective and this is the ALAC. I would be ready to start the > > preparation for such a two hour workshopin San Juan. > > > > 2. I propose to use the forthcoming 8th meeting of the ICANN Studienkreis > > (October 11-12, 2007 in Warsaw) for an EURALO outreach meeting (Thursday, > > October 11, 9.00 - 15.00) for Central and Eastern Europe. I ask all ALS and > > other friends of EURALO to send me contcats so that we can do outrech and > > invite speakers. I will work together also with the Diplo Foundation. Input > > from ISOC Europe is welcome. > > > > Best > > > > wolfgang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > EURO-Discuss mailing list > > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.i > > cann.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > -- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
by Nick Ashton-Hart May 27, 2007

May 27, 2007

I had a long convo with Diane in MdR on Friday to help her get the schedule finalised. I should have dates/times/etc shortly. Also: All our sessions will be available for remote participation, for those who cannot attend in person. We'll have recordings available also, after the sessions are over. On 26/05/07, "Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org <"Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org> wrote: > Tuesday would be fine, but please let me know as soon as possible that I can inform the panelists. > > Best > > w > > ________________________________ > > Från: Jacqueline A. Morris [mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com] > Skickat: lö 2007-05-26 00:15 > Till: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang; 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' > Ämne: RE: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > > > Sunday is the same day as the LACRALO and NARALO meetings, so they won't be > able to make it Sunday. > Check with Nick - the last day he suggested to me was Tuesday afternoon... > not sure how the schedule is running now - I haven't seen a full draft yet. > Jacqueline > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang > [mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de] > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:29 PM > To: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com; Discussion for At-Large Europe > Subject: SV: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > Thanks Jackie > > there is no need to have the two workshops on the same day. I proposed > Sunday for the gTLD workshop, Robin Wednesday for the FOE workshop. Robin > wanted to consult this pro9posal with Milton an d others in the NCUC. Lets > hear what their position is than lates make an joint announcement. > > best > > w > > > ________________________________ > > Från: euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org genom Jacqueline A. > Morris > Skickat: fr 2007-05-25 14:55 > Till: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' > Ämne: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > > > Hello everyone > I thought that it would make sense to have a joint NCUC/ALAC session with > each session having its own timeslot - we had originally planned to have an > ALAC afternoon with 2 sessions - one the gTLD workshop and one the "hot > issues" workshop. I am OK with having the gTLD workshop moved to a joint > ALAC/NCUC morning or afternoon with the Freedom of expression session - I > didn't think that the two parts needed to be linked topically - or are we > talking about conflating the two into one? > They are linked in that they are issues that are important to end-users. The > event (the morning or afternoon) could be jointly marketed. > Jacqueline > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roberto Gaetano [mailto:roberto@icann.org] > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 3:31 AM > To: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' > Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > It would be good to have an outline of both, because the links between > gegraphical domain names and freedom of speech are not obvious to me. > This does not mean that we cannot call both workshops under one umbrella, to > foster also better communication between ALAC and NCUC, but just that we > should be careful in forcing links that are not clear in the mind of the > average attendee. > > Cheers, > Roberto > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On > > Behalf Of William Drake > > Sent: 25 May 2007 07:28 > > To: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org, Discussion for At-Large Europe > > Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > > > A priori, jointly convening both and exploring each issue set > > more thoroughly with links drawn between the two sounds right to me. > > > > BD > > > > > > On 5/24/07 5:01 PM, "Nick Ashton-Hart" > > <nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org> wrote: > > > > > I think it is up to the community. From what I know of these two > > > events, it would seem to me that these are two important and very > > > different aspects to consider and it is worthwhile to consider them > > > separately because each set of issues will then get more time, and > > > therefore be explored more thoroughly, than if they shared a single > > > timeslot. Of course, nothing would stop the two > > constituencies jointly > > > convening one or the other of these events, which would provide the > > > 'one voice' benefits you mention. > > > > > > Jacqueline, do you have any thoughts? > > > > > > On 24/05/07, "Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org > > > <"Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org> wrote: > > >> Dear list > > >> > > >> Robin Gross from IP Justice, who is also with the > > Non-Commercial User > > >> Constituency of the GNSO told me here in geneva during the IGF > > >> consultations that she is preparing a similar workshop on > > Freedom of > > >> Expression in San Juan (probably on Wednesday, June, 27, 2007. > > >> > > >> What do you think, should we consider to do the two > > workshops under > > >> one unbrella as a joint activitiy of ALAC and NCUC? The > > two workshops > > >> are totally independent but complement each other. Each > > unit would be > > >> responsible for its own workshop but coulkd benefit from the joint > > >> advertisement. Thisn could lead to a win-win-situation. > > And we would > > >> give the ICANN constituency as a whole a clear signal, > > that th voice > > >> of the users/consumers/at large members gets louder. > > >> > > >> Any comments? > > >> > > >> Wolfgang > > >> > > >> > > >> ________________________________ > > >> > > >> Von: Annette Muehlberg [mailto:annette.muehlberg@web.de] > > >> Gesendet: Do 24.05.2007 15:37 > > >> An: sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr; Discussion for At-Large Europe > > >> Cc: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang > > >> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Sébastien, Wolfgang, > > >> > > >> I would like to join you in working on the GEO-TLD > > meeting, as we are > > >> working on .berlin what is the current plan? > > >> > > >> best > > >> annette > > >> > > >> > > >> Sébastien Bachollet schrieb: > > >>> Sorry Wolfgang to take this old message but it contains 2 > > important points. > > >>> About the so-call GEO-TLDs I would like to help you in setting up > > >>> the meeting especially because we started some work on .paris. > > >>> > > >>> I am not sure I will be available during the forthcoming > > 8th meeting > > >>> of the ICANN Studienkreis (October 11-12, 2007 in Warsaw) for an > > >>> EURALO outreach meeting (Thursday, October 11, 9.00 - > > 15.00) but I think is a good idea. > > >>> > > >>> I start to work on Egeni Europe 2008 for June (just > > before the Icann > > >>> meeting in Europe) and I think we need to do also > > something about Euralo. > > >>> > > >>> All the best > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Sébastien Bachollet > > >>> Président > > >>> sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr > > >>> www.egeni.org > > >>> www.isoc.fr > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -----Message d'origine----- > > >>> De : euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >>> [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De > > la part de > > >>> Wolfgang Kleinwächter Envoyé : samedi 31 mars 2007 13:45 À : > > >>> Discussion for At-Large Europe; Discussion for At-Large > > Europe; Nick > > >>> Ashton-Hart Cc : Europe Discuss; Asia-Pacific Discuss Objet : Re: > > >>> [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > >>> > > >>> Sorry I forgot the proposals: > > >>> > > >>> 1. the prepare a workshop for San Juan on Consumer Interests on > > >>> geographical > > >>> TLDs: The working title could be "Consumer Confusion vs. > > Consumer Choice: > > >>> The User Interests in GEO-TLDs". As we discussed in > > Lisbon, there > > >>> is a growing number of related projects (.berlin, .nyc, > > .cym, .sco, > > >>> .london etc) and there are two main arguments in favour > > and against. > > >>> In Germany the local government which operates berlin.de > > argues that > > >>> .berlin would create consumer confusion while the federal > > parliament > > >>> just recently adopted a resolution arguing GEO-TLDs like .munich, > > >>> .cologne, .saxony, .bavaria or .leipzig would bring more > > competition > > >>> and more consumer choice. I expect that the ICANN Board > > if it has to > > >>> take decisions on such TLDs (based on the GNSO Policy > > paper and the > > >>> GAC gTLD principles) will need some input form the user > > perspective > > >>> and this is the ALAC. I would be ready to start the > > preparation for such a two hour workshopin San Juan. > > >>> > > >>> 2. I propose to use the forthcoming 8th meeting of the ICANN > > >>> Studienkreis (October 11-12, 2007 in Warsaw) for an > > EURALO outreach > > >>> meeting (Thursday, October 11, 9.00 - 15.00) for Central > > and Eastern > > >>> Europe. I ask all ALS and other friends of EURALO to send me > > >>> contcats so that we can do outrech and invite speakers. I > > will work > > >>> together also with the Diplo Foundation. Input from ISOC > > Europe is welcome. > > >>> > > >>> Best > > >>> > > >>> wolfgang > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> EURO-Discuss mailing list > > >>> EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >>> > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge > > >>> -lists.i > > >>> cann.org > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> EURO-Discuss mailing list > > >> EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >> > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge- > > >> lists.ic > > >> ann.org > > >> > > >> Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org <http://www.euralo.org/> <http://www.euralo.org/> > > > >> > > > > > > > *********************************************************** > > William J. Drake drake(a)hei.unige.ch > > Director, Project on the Information > > Revolution and Global Governance/PSIO > > Graduate Institute for International Studies > > Geneva, Switzerland > > http://hei.unige.ch/psio/researchprojects/Drake.html > > *********************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > EURO-Discuss mailing list > > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_a > tlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org <http://www.euralo.org/> <http://www.euralo.org/> > > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.i > cann.org > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org <http://www.euralo.org/> <http://www.euralo.org/> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 > 4:01 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 > 4:01 PM > > > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.i > cann.org > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org <http://www.euralo.org/> <http://www.euralo.org/> > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 > 4:01 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 > 4:01 PM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > -- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] {Spam?} Re: chair
by Nick Ashton-Hart May 26, 2007

May 26, 2007

I am also sure that her intention was to be constructive; I wanted to make sure that everyone was aware that the enthusiasm for moving forward needed to be channeled a bit differently in order to avoid a conflict with the Bylaws ;) On 26/05/07, karen banks <karenb(a)gn.apc.org> wrote: > > hi everyone > > first, can i add my (belated) thanks to all and congratulations to the > board members.. four of us (jeanette, wolf, bill and myself) were in geneva > last week for the WSIS/IGF meetings.. > > At 13:03 26/05/2007, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > > Per Clause 9.4 of the Bylaws of the EURALO, it is for the board > members to elect the Chair and Vice-Chair, so I'm afraid that this > proposal is not in order. > as a relative newcomer to the space, i appreciate the procedures being > clarified.. thanks nick > > but, i also appreciate annette's evident enthusiasm and wishing us now to > move forward - and i imagine that was the spirit of her proposal.. > > karen > > > > On 26/05/07, Annette Muehlberg <annette.muehlberg(a)web.de> wrote: > > all, > > now that we have a board we should clarify who becomes the chair. > > > > looking at the ranking of the board members jeanette and wolf are > > predestinated to take the responsibility of the euralo chair. as > > jeanette already indicated that she would be willing to do some work but > > not take the full responsibility as chair, i think it would be great if > > wolf would be willing to serve as chair. > > > > if wolf accepts and there are no objections until friday - we actually > > would have finished our procedural issues ;-) > > > > best > > annette > > > > _______________________________________________ > > EURO-Discuss mailing list > > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > > > > > -- > -- > Regards, > > Nick Ashton-Hart > PO Box 32160 > London N4 2XY > United Kingdom > UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 > USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 > Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 > mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 > Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / > Skype: nashtonhart > Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > -- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Apologies
by Roberto Gaetano May 26, 2007

May 26, 2007

I had a long and useful exchange of emails with Thomas. We did not resolve our divergencies, we sort of "agreed that we disagree", but on one point I have to admit he was right. Thomas pointed out that in one of our messages I have made a false statement, or at least a misleading one. Digging in my folders, I have found the message and the sentence, which is "Incidentally, can we have a list of who can speak, as we have for the time being already excluded Nick, as staff, and yours truly, as Board member, but ...". I recognize that this would imply that somebody has attempted to shut me up. This has never happened, as the criticism to what I have said, by Thomas and everybody else, has always remained within the limit of the debate among people who have strong opinions and are passionate about the issues. Please accept my apologies for the unfair sentence above. Best regards, Roberto

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] chair
by Nick Ashton-Hart May 26, 2007

May 26, 2007

Per Clause 9.4 of the Bylaws of the EURALO, it is for the board members to elect the Chair and Vice-Chair, so I'm afraid that this proposal is not in order. On 26/05/07, Annette Muehlberg <annette.muehlberg(a)web.de> wrote: > all, > now that we have a board we should clarify who becomes the chair. > > looking at the ranking of the board members jeanette and wolf are > predestinated to take the responsibility of the euralo chair. as > jeanette already indicated that she would be willing to do some work but > not take the full responsibility as chair, i think it would be great if > wolf would be willing to serve as chair. > > if wolf accepts and there are no objections until friday - we actually > would have finished our procedural issues ;-) > > best > annette > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > -- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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chair
by Annette Muehlberg May 26, 2007

May 26, 2007

all, now that we have a board we should clarify who becomes the chair. looking at the ranking of the board members jeanette and wolf are predestinated to take the responsibility of the euralo chair. as jeanette already indicated that she would be willing to do some work but not take the full responsibility as chair, i think it would be great if wolf would be willing to serve as chair. if wolf accepts and there are no objections until friday - we actually would have finished our procedural issues ;-) best annette

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
by Nick Ashton-Hart May 25, 2007

May 25, 2007

Sunday doesn't work well schedule-wise; the LAC GA will be going on all day, and the North American RALO meeting all day Sunday as well. On 25/05/07, "Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org <"Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org> wrote: > Thanks Jackie > > there is no need to have the two workshops on the same day. I proposed Sunday for the gTLD workshop, Robin Wednesday for the FOE workshop. Robin wanted to consult this pro9posal with Milton an d others in the NCUC. Lets hear what their position is than lates make an joint announcement. > > best > > w > > > ________________________________ > > Från: euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org genom Jacqueline A. Morris > Skickat: fr 2007-05-25 14:55 > Till: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' > Ämne: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > > > Hello everyone > I thought that it would make sense to have a joint NCUC/ALAC session with > each session having its own timeslot - we had originally planned to have an > ALAC afternoon with 2 sessions - one the gTLD workshop and one the "hot > issues" workshop. I am OK with having the gTLD workshop moved to a joint > ALAC/NCUC morning or afternoon with the Freedom of expression session - I > didn't think that the two parts needed to be linked topically - or are we > talking about conflating the two into one? > They are linked in that they are issues that are important to end-users. The > event (the morning or afternoon) could be jointly marketed. > Jacqueline > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roberto Gaetano [mailto:roberto@icann.org] > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 3:31 AM > To: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' > Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > It would be good to have an outline of both, because the links between > gegraphical domain names and freedom of speech are not obvious to me. > This does not mean that we cannot call both workshops under one umbrella, to > foster also better communication between ALAC and NCUC, but just that we > should be careful in forcing links that are not clear in the mind of the > average attendee. > > Cheers, > Roberto > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On > > Behalf Of William Drake > > Sent: 25 May 2007 07:28 > > To: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org, Discussion for At-Large Europe > > Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > > > A priori, jointly convening both and exploring each issue set > > more thoroughly with links drawn between the two sounds right to me. > > > > BD > > > > > > On 5/24/07 5:01 PM, "Nick Ashton-Hart" > > <nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org> wrote: > > > > > I think it is up to the community. From what I know of these two > > > events, it would seem to me that these are two important and very > > > different aspects to consider and it is worthwhile to consider them > > > separately because each set of issues will then get more time, and > > > therefore be explored more thoroughly, than if they shared a single > > > timeslot. Of course, nothing would stop the two > > constituencies jointly > > > convening one or the other of these events, which would provide the > > > 'one voice' benefits you mention. > > > > > > Jacqueline, do you have any thoughts? > > > > > > On 24/05/07, "Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org > > > <"Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org> wrote: > > >> Dear list > > >> > > >> Robin Gross from IP Justice, who is also with the > > Non-Commercial User > > >> Constituency of the GNSO told me here in geneva during the IGF > > >> consultations that she is preparing a similar workshop on > > Freedom of > > >> Expression in San Juan (probably on Wednesday, June, 27, 2007. > > >> > > >> What do you think, should we consider to do the two > > workshops under > > >> one unbrella as a joint activitiy of ALAC and NCUC? The > > two workshops > > >> are totally independent but complement each other. Each > > unit would be > > >> responsible for its own workshop but coulkd benefit from the joint > > >> advertisement. Thisn could lead to a win-win-situation. > > And we would > > >> give the ICANN constituency as a whole a clear signal, > > that th voice > > >> of the users/consumers/at large members gets louder. > > >> > > >> Any comments? > > >> > > >> Wolfgang > > >> > > >> > > >> ________________________________ > > >> > > >> Von: Annette Muehlberg [mailto:annette.muehlberg@web.de] > > >> Gesendet: Do 24.05.2007 15:37 > > >> An: sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr; Discussion for At-Large Europe > > >> Cc: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang > > >> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Sébastien, Wolfgang, > > >> > > >> I would like to join you in working on the GEO-TLD > > meeting, as we are > > >> working on .berlin what is the current plan? > > >> > > >> best > > >> annette > > >> > > >> > > >> Sébastien Bachollet schrieb: > > >>> Sorry Wolfgang to take this old message but it contains 2 > > important points. > > >>> About the so-call GEO-TLDs I would like to help you in setting up > > >>> the meeting especially because we started some work on .paris. > > >>> > > >>> I am not sure I will be available during the forthcoming > > 8th meeting > > >>> of the ICANN Studienkreis (October 11-12, 2007 in Warsaw) for an > > >>> EURALO outreach meeting (Thursday, October 11, 9.00 - > > 15.00) but I think is a good idea. > > >>> > > >>> I start to work on Egeni Europe 2008 for June (just > > before the Icann > > >>> meeting in Europe) and I think we need to do also > > something about Euralo. > > >>> > > >>> All the best > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Sébastien Bachollet > > >>> Président > > >>> sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr > > >>> www.egeni.org > > >>> www.isoc.fr > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -----Message d'origine----- > > >>> De : euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >>> [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De > > la part de > > >>> Wolfgang Kleinwächter Envoyé : samedi 31 mars 2007 13:45 À : > > >>> Discussion for At-Large Europe; Discussion for At-Large > > Europe; Nick > > >>> Ashton-Hart Cc : Europe Discuss; Asia-Pacific Discuss Objet : Re: > > >>> [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up > > >>> > > >>> Sorry I forgot the proposals: > > >>> > > >>> 1. the prepare a workshop for San Juan on Consumer Interests on > > >>> geographical > > >>> TLDs: The working title could be "Consumer Confusion vs. > > Consumer Choice: > > >>> The User Interests in GEO-TLDs". As we discussed in > > Lisbon, there > > >>> is a growing number of related projects (.berlin, .nyc, > > .cym, .sco, > > >>> .london etc) and there are two main arguments in favour > > and against. > > >>> In Germany the local government which operates berlin.de > > argues that > > >>> .berlin would create consumer confusion while the federal > > parliament > > >>> just recently adopted a resolution arguing GEO-TLDs like .munich, > > >>> .cologne, .saxony, .bavaria or .leipzig would bring more > > competition > > >>> and more consumer choice. I expect that the ICANN Board > > if it has to > > >>> take decisions on such TLDs (based on the GNSO Policy > > paper and the > > >>> GAC gTLD principles) will need some input form the user > > perspective > > >>> and this is the ALAC. I would be ready to start the > > preparation for such a two hour workshopin San Juan. > > >>> > > >>> 2. I propose to use the forthcoming 8th meeting of the ICANN > > >>> Studienkreis (October 11-12, 2007 in Warsaw) for an > > EURALO outreach > > >>> meeting (Thursday, October 11, 9.00 - 15.00) for Central > > and Eastern > > >>> Europe. I ask all ALS and other friends of EURALO to send me > > >>> contcats so that we can do outrech and invite speakers. I > > will work > > >>> together also with the Diplo Foundation. Input from ISOC > > Europe is welcome. > > >>> > > >>> Best > > >>> > > >>> wolfgang > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> EURO-Discuss mailing list > > >>> EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >>> > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge > > >>> -lists.i > > >>> cann.org > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> EURO-Discuss mailing list > > >> EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >> > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge- > > >> lists.ic > > >> ann.org > > >> > > >> Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org <http://www.euralo.org/> > > >> > > > > > > > *********************************************************** > > William J. Drake drake(a)hei.unige.ch > > Director, Project on the Information > > Revolution and Global Governance/PSIO > > Graduate Institute for International Studies > > Geneva, Switzerland > > http://hei.unige.ch/psio/researchprojects/Drake.html > > *********************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > EURO-Discuss mailing list > > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_a > tlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org <http://www.euralo.org/> > > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.i > cann.org > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org <http://www.euralo.org/> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 > 4:01 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 > 4:01 PM > > > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org <http://www.euralo.org/> > > > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org > -- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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