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Re: [EURO-Discuss] ALAC Candidates
by Nick Ashton-Hart April 30, 2007

April 30, 2007

I'm afraid that understanding is not correct. In respect of the ALAC representatives, the situation is as provided in the clause I posted in my previous email - all ALAC representatives would need to be at least a member of an accredited ALS, though they would not need to be the official representative (as in voting representative) of an ALS. This interpretation is as provided in the previously-quoted MoU text, but it is also present in the Bylaws agreed, in clause 11.5.10. I hope that makes things clearer. On 30/04/07, "Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org <"Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org> wrote: > My understanding is, that recognized ALS can nominate also individual candidates for the ALAC which are not a formal member of the ALS. In the case of Veronica- she does not herself represent an ALS - I proposed her to be an ALAC candidate and insofar it would be the Media City Leipzig e.V. as a recognized ALS which she would represent. > > Best wishes > > Wolfgang > > ________________________________ > > Von: euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org im Auftrag von Nick Ashton-Hart > Gesendet: Mo 30.04.2007 12:47 > An: euro-als(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; Discussion for At-Large Europe > Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] ALAC Candidates > > > > Dear Colleagues: > > With respect to the candidates for the 2 ALAC seats, when sending the > statement of your experience, and your view of what you could provide > as an ALAC representative of the European constituency, could you also > confirm the ALS which you were a member of as at the deadline for > expressions of interest / nominations for the ALAC seats of 20th April > 2007. > > This is in relation to the qualification for ALAC representatives as > provided in the MoU, Clause 5.4.1: > > "The EURALO will choose two (2) individuals to serve as > representatives on the At Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and other > bodies as appropriate in the terms specified in the ICANN Bylaws. The > voting rights shall be determined by the EURALO. The selected > representatives must be members of different ALSes, must have their > principal residence in different countries of the region and their > nationalities must be different, save always that the EURALO may > define additional diversity requirements. Selected representatives > will have the responsibilities described in the ICANN Bylaws. " > > It was pointed out to me that whilst this may be well-known in the > case of some nominees, it may not be in respect of others. > > -- > Regards, > > Nick Ashton-Hart > PO Box 32160 > London N4 2XY > United Kingdom > UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 > USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 > Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 > mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 > Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / > Skype: nashtonhart > Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > -- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Public Consultation on Terms of Reference for Independent Review of ALAC
by Nick Ashton-Hart April 30, 2007

April 30, 2007

Dear Community: As you know, the consultation on the independent review terms of reference is scheduled to end today, April 30th. However, since the translations of the Terms of Reference and the announcement of the consultation were not available at the start of the consultation period, I'm happy to inform you that the consultation will remain open through this week - through the 6th May. Those of you who wish to respond in a language other than english should feel free to do so! I hope you will pardon the delay between the english version being posted and the other 3 language versions, and will understand that we are doing our best to provide as much information of this kind in other languages as we can, as quickly as we can. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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ALAC nominations
by Max Senges April 29, 2007

April 29, 2007

Dear list Allow me to contribute two short points regarding the upcoming decision regarding the ALAC member representing Europe #1 wouldn't it facilitate the decision making process if the candidates would a) properly present themselves (why they think they are well prepared for the job) and b) within reason outline what their plans/priorities are. I believe this would enable participants who did not have the chance to get to know the candidates before to cast a more informed vote. #2 After reviewing the candidates statements i endorse Veronica Cretu's candidacy. I like that she is from a new european country and I believe it would be valueable to have someone with her perspecive who can bring up issues we might not even be aware of. With her language competencies she is also well prepared for outreach activities triggering more participation from this region. Best regards Max ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------- "I am a wanderer and mountain-climber, said he to his heart. I love not the plains, and it seemeth I cannot long sit still. And whatever may still overtake me as fate and experience- a wandering will be therein, and a mountain-climbing: in the end one experienceth only oneself." (Friedrich Nietzsche, Also spoke Zarathustra) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Max Senges Research Associate Internet Interdisciplinary Institute (IN3) Av. Canal Olímpic s/n, Edifici B3 08860 CASTELLDEFELS (Barcelona) SPAIN PhD Candidate Universitat Oberta de Catalunya (UOC) Programme on the Information Society Tel: Spain +34-627193395 Germany +49-17660855358 @: maxsenges(a)gmail.com www.maxsenges.com http://entrepreneur.jot.com https://www.openbc.com/hp/Max_Senges/ ------------------------------------------------------------------

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Short biography
by Patrick Vande Walle April 29, 2007

April 29, 2007

All, At the suggestion of Max, I would like to expand a bit on my past experience and involvement, and how I think it is relevant to ICANN and ALAC. My educational and professional background is in computer and network engineering. I think this is most helpful in the ICANN context. ICANN's job is narrowly focused on the implementation of technical standards related to Internet names and numbers. While they are often policy issues linked to that, we have to keep in mind the core mission of ICANN. Current debates inside the ICANN community over IDNs, IPv6 addresses in the root zone file and some aspects of the whois are good examples of what ALAC has to discuss. I have been a long time participant in ICANN processes and tried to contribute input to several of them and most recently the GNSO task force whois report. Through my work with ISOC, I have good links with the IETF community, where I have been advocating that technical choices should take the societal needs into account. This has not been the case over those last years, as research and development in Internet technologies have been exclusively influenced by short-term market demand. This brings us back to ICANN, in the sense that the latter relies on standards developed by the IETF, but some of the choices ICANN has to make (IDNSs, DNSSEC) target a longer term. As a "consumer" of IETF standards, ICANN should clearly tell the standards community what its needs are for the future. This is not happening right now. It is also important, I think, that ALAC acts as a counterweight to the power of the different business constituencies within ICANN. The recent decision of all major gTLDs to raise the fees of domain names is a good example of a decision the ALAC should fight. >From my perspective, it is crucial for the future ALAC to build its credibility based on people who are A. well-known by other constituencies B. demonstrate they have the right mix of technical and policy background C. Most importantly, can demonstrate a long experience in ICANN. More information about me is available on my blog: http://patrick.vande-walle.eu GNSO Task force report on whois: http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-1… Should you wish to check my past involvement, Google is your friend : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&as_qdr=all&q=+icann+%22patrick+… -- Patrick Vande Walle Check my blog at http://patrick.vande-walle.eu Jabber me at patrick(a)vande-walle.eu

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] DIGITAL MOU SIGNATURES - PLEASE READ
by Max Senges April 26, 2007

April 26, 2007

Dear EURALO members, dear Nick Ashton Please excuse our very late signing of the MoU. We were not sure of the signing procedure as we missed the original deadline before 1700 THURSDAY 29TH MARCH 2007 and the clarification correspondance was delayed. Anyway here it is and once we have managed the hectic times we are in at the moment we are looking forward to activly contribute to the discourse. I hereby consent for Committee for a Democratic United Nations to be bound by the terms of the Memorandum of Understanding between ICANN and the Signing Organisations in the European Region as if I were personally signing the document. Maximilian Senges Committee for a Democratic United Nations 26.4.2007 Best regards Max Senges > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Im > Auftrag von Dr. Christoph Bruch > Gesendet: jueves, 29 de marzo de 2007 12:08 > An: 'Nick Ashton-Hart'; 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' > Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] DIGITAL MOU SIGNATURES - PLEASE READ > > I hereby consent for the German Civil Liberties Union / > Humanistische Union e.V. to be bound by the terms of the > Memorandum of Understanding between ICANN and the Signing > Organisations in the European Region as if I were personally > signing the document. > > Christoph Bruch > German Civil Liberties Union / Humanistische Union e.V. > March 29, 2007 > > > ____________________________________________ > Dr. Christoph Bruch German Civil Liberties Union / > Humanistsiche Union > Neue Christstr. 6 Greifswalder Str. 4 > 14059 Berlin 10405 Berlin > 030 - 32 10 32 82 030 - 20 45 02 56 > Fax: 030 - 20 45 02 57 > info(a)humanistische-union.de > www.humanistische-union.de > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Nick Ashton-Hart [mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. März 2007 14:22 > An: bruch(a)humanistische-union.de; kiravuo(a)tml.hut.fi; > Wolfgang Kleinwächter; wolfgang(a)imv.au.dk; > aoliva(a)isoc-cat.org; aoliva(a)diplomaticnet.com; > dpefeva(a)isoc.bg; patrick(a)vande-walle.eu; Patrick(a)isoc.lu; > rudi.vansnick(a)isoc.be; sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr > Cc: Europe Discuss > Betreff: DIGITAL MOU SIGNATURES - PLEASE READ > > Dear European Colleagues: > > For those who are not physically present tomorrow, but would > like to be one of the signers of the MoU, a procedure has > been created for you. > > PLEASE SEND IN AS BELOW NOT LATER THAN 1700 THURSDAY 29TH MARCH 2007 > > PLEASE NOTE: There will be a way, as provided by the MoU, to > be determined by the EURALO, for ALSes to consent to be bound > by the MoU at a later date. > > Simply send to me, copied to the list, the following form of > words, with the name of your organisation in place of the > brackets, and as required directly below the sentence: > > ------- > > I hereby consent for the German Civil Liberties Union / > Humanistische Union e.V. to be bound by the terms of the > Memorandum of Understanding between ICANN and the Signing > Organisations in the European Region as if I were personally > signing the document. > > Christoph Bruch > German Civil Liberties Union / Humanistische Union e.V. > March 29, 2007 > > > ---- > Note that I have attached the signature text of the MoU in > the current version. Signatory information will change as the > day goes on and I receive additional signatories' information. > > -- > Regards, > > > Nick Ashton-Hart > Director, At-Large > ICANN > PO Box 32160 > London N4 2XY > United Kingdom > Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] > USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 > Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 > mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 > email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org > Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: > nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: > nashtonhart > Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_a > tlarge-lists.icann.org

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] PROPOSED TELECONFERENCE - 30th April
by Nick Ashton-Hart April 26, 2007

April 26, 2007

I would advise a call in order to conclude this part of the formation work - not only because it is part of the process previously agreed, but because we can then draw a line under it, and move forward. But of course as always it is up to all of you. On 26/04/07, William Drake <drake(a)hei.unige.ch> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm a third person who can't make it Monday, and I will be traveling from > Tuesday. The following week's more open. > > Could we clarify something? A number of people here have expressed support > for Vittorio's proposal to seat all the candidates and dispense with voting, > and nobody has objected. If that's the path we're on, do we need to rush to > organize a phone call to discuss the nominations? Or might it be better to > lay the groundwork for later, more programmatic call, e.g. on what we want > to do first in what time frame etc? > > Best, > > Bill > > > On 4/26/07 9:50 AM, "Rudi Vansnick" <rudi.vansnick(a)isoc.be> wrote: > > > Hi Nick, > > > > I'll not be able as I'm away for a few days (holidays). I will be back > > on the 2nd. > > > > Best regards > > > > Rudi Vansnick/ > > / <http://www.isoc-ecc.org/> > > > > > > Nick Ashton-Hart schreef: > >> We can do that yes - I'm back from holiday now (though I have come > >> down with a cold!) and I'm copying in Susie. > >> > >>> From reading the list, why don't we aim for: > >> > >> 30th April, 1600 UTC (1700 London, 1800 Brussels/Paris/Geneva). > >> Proposed length of call: 1 Hour. > >> > >> Please reply if this does NOT work for you (with an alternate that would). > >> > >> On 25/04/07, Patrick Vande Walle <patrick(a)vande-walle.eu> wrote: > >> > >>> Hello Nick, > >>> > >>> According to the process detailed on the Wiki, we should have a > >>> teleconference to discuss the nominations. > >>> > >>> Can the ICANN staff suggest a possible date and make the necessary > >>> arrangements ? > >>> > >>> Thanks a lot, > >>> > >>> Patrick > >>> > >>> Annette Muehlberg wrote: > >>> > >>>> What do you think about the following schedule: > >>>> > >>>> - Sunday 22nd end of nomination period for ALAC candidates > >>>> > >>>> - Monday 23rd of April opening the discussion on candidates for ALAC and > >>>> the Board trying to find a consensus. > >>>> > >>>> - Friday, 4th of May, end of discussion - hopefully in consensus - on > >>>> the ALAC candidates. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > EURO-Discuss mailing list > > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > nn.org > > *********************************************************** > William J. Drake drake(a)hei.unige.ch > Director, Project on the Information > Revolution and Global Governance/PSIO > Graduate Institute for International Studies > Geneva, Switzerland > http://hei.unige.ch/psio/researchprojects/Drake.html > *********************************************************** > > -- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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ALAC Review Terms of Reference Multilingual / TOR de la revisión de ALAC multilingüe / revue d'ALAC multilingue
by Nick Ashton-Hart April 26, 2007

April 26, 2007

Dear Community: The translated versions of the Draft Terms of Reference for the ALAC review are now available in Brazilian Portuguese and French. The spanish version will be available shortly. If you have not yet put your comments in please do so soon. ----FRANCAIS ---- La chère Communauté : Les versions traduites du mandat d'ébauche pour la revue d'ALAC sont maintenant disponibles dans portugais brésiliens et français. La version espagnole sera disponible bientôt. Si vous n'avez pas encore mis vos commentaires satisfont dedans font ainsi. --- PORTUGUES ---- Cara comunidade: As versões traduzidas dos termos do esboço de referência para a revisão de ALAC estão agora disponíveis em Portuguese e francês. A versão espanhola estará disponível logo. Se você não puser ainda seus comentários satisfazem dentro fazem assim. ---- ESPANOL --- Estimada comunidad: Las versiones traducidas de los términos del bosquejo de la referencia para la revisión de ALAC están disponibles ahora en portugués brasileños y francés. La versión española estará disponible pronto. Si todavía no has puesto tus comentarios adentro satisfacen hacen tan. French: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-2-30mar07-fr.htm Brazilian Portuguese: http://www.icann.org/announcements/ announcement-2-30mar07-pt.htm English: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-2-30mar07.htm --- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Nominations - update
by Vittorio Bertola April 25, 2007

April 25, 2007

All, below there is a summary of the nominations that I've seen thus far. I still think that we miss certain parts of Europe, such as Spain / Portugal, UK / Ireland, Scandinavia / Finland, Poland / Czech Rep / Hungary, and Russia / Ukraine / Baltic. Is there anyone from there? Also, perhaps those who are candidates for the ALAC could consider running for the Board as well - we have four great candidates and it would be a pity to completely lose the contribution of two of them. Those who have been nominated should please notify the list whether they accept the nomination. Finally, do people think that they need more time to post more nominations? Can we close by April 22, or do we go until May 1st? Regards, == Nominations for the ALAC Patrick Vande Walle (self-nomination) (accepted) Sebastien Bachollet (Dessi) (accepted) Dessi Pefeva (Vittorio) (?) Veronica Cretu (Wolfgang) (?) == Nominations for the EURALO Board Rudi Vansnick (self-nomination) (accepted) Vittorio Bertola (self-nomination) (accepted) Dessi Pefeva (Vittorio) (?) Christoph Bruch (Vittorio, Wolfgang) (?) Desiree Milosevic (Wolfgang) (?) Bill Drake (Wolfgang) (?) Jeanette Hofmann (Wolfgang) (accepted) Wolfgang Kleinwaechter (Vittorio) (rejected) -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------

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EURO-Discuss: Veronica Cretu (short intro)
by Veronica Cretu April 25, 2007

April 25, 2007

Dear members of the EURO-Discuss list! Greetings from Chisinau, Moldova! I am sending, as it has been suggested, a very short intro and a short statement of interest in ALAC. Short Intro Veronica Cretu is the President of the "CMB" Training Center, Chisinau, Republic of Moldova. "CMB" Training Center is a non-governmental organization the mission of which is promoting Innovations in Communication, Management and Business. Mrs. Cretu has founded this NGO back in 2002 has been successfully running it until now. Mrs. Cretu holds a Postgraduate Diploma in Diplomacy, with DiploFoundation, Malta and her first degree is in English Philology, with the State Pedagogical University of Moldova. Along with the activities at the "CMB" Training Center in Moldova, Mrs. Cretu is currently involved in the Internet Governance Capacity Building Program with DiploFoundation. She has been acting as an online tutor and online research supervisor in this Program since 2005. Mrs. Cretu's areas of expertise are: Project Management, Human Resources Management and Adult Education. Mrs. Cretu's current areas of interest are: The role of IT in Diplomacy, The Multi stakeholder partnerships in ICT for All, The Evolution and further development of the Internet and the Role of IGF, Ways of improving literacy and educational facilities as a means of reducing the digital divide and improving accessibly in the developing countries, Promoting Multilingualism and Cultural Diversity on the Internet, Role of E-education in Promoting Access to Knowledge in the Developing Countries. Interests in ALAC: I would like to help to get internet end users - especially of developing countries - involved in ICANN decision making processes, to strengthen civil society in Eastern Europe and considering civil liberties in setting up IT-infrastructure, promoting multilingualism and cultural diversity on the Internet and support competition in Domain market. I am willing to do outreach work in Eastern Europe and think that the fact that I am fluent in Romanian, English and Russian is very helpful in doing so. I am committed to ALAC-ICANN goals and bylaws and consider consensus decision making as very important for the committee-work. I attended two ALAC outreach meeting (Prague and Athens last year). For more information you can contact me at VeronicaC(a)diplomacy.edu/ Skype: veronicaretu. Thank you for your time! Warmest regards, Veronica Cretu ----- Original Message ----- From: <euro-discuss-request(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> To: <euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 6, Issue 20 > Send EURO-Discuss mailing list submissions to > euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > euro-discuss-request(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > euro-discuss-owner(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of EURO-Discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Nominations - update II (Vittorio Bertola) > 2. Re: Nominations - update II (S?bastien Bachollet) > 3. Re: [EURO-ALS] Strawman proposal for the inclusion of > individual users within Euralo (Rudi Vansnick) > 4. Re: Nominations - update II (Kleinw?chter) > 5. Re: Nominations - update II (Desiree Miloshevic) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:57:48 +0200 > From: Vittorio Bertola <vb(a)bertola.eu> > Subject: [EURO-Discuss] Nominations - update II > To: Discussion for At-Large Europe > <euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Message-ID: <462F423C.9070504(a)bertola.eu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed > > All, > > this is the current status of nominations. The people who did not accept > or reject yet are kindly expected to do so as soon as possible. > (Wolfgang - you wrote that both Veronica and Desiree accepted, but I > find it hard to vote for someone who has never sent a single message to > this mailing list - could you please encourage them to join the list and > send a message of acceptance and self-introduction?) > > For the rest, I would follow Annette's suggestion and start the > discussion on the two slates of candidates and on the number of Board > members. In the revised schedule, voting was expected to start on April > 29th but let's see how the discussion goes - if the discussion is still > alive and productive, I'm also fine with waiting until May 5th for the > vote. > > By the way - assuming that all nominations are accepted, we now have > eight candidates for the Board. If we agreed that whoever is not elected > for the ALAC is added to the Board, we could have a 9-member Board and > the two ALAC members, not reject anyone's desire to contribute, and only > have to vote (if necessary) once. What would you think of this? > > Regards, > > > == Nominations for the ALAC > > Patrick Vande Walle (self-nomination) (accepted) > Sebastien Bachollet (Dessi) (accepted) > Veronica Cretu (Wolfgang) (?) > > Dessi Pefeva (Vittorio) (rejected) > > > == Nominations for the EURALO Board > > Rudi Vansnick (self-nomination) (accepted) > Vittorio Bertola (self-nomination) (accepted) > Dessi Pefeva (Vittorio) (?) > Christoph Bruch (Vittorio, Wolfgang) (accepted) > Desiree Miloshevic (Wolfgang) (?) > Bill Drake (Wolfgang) (accepted) > Jeanette Hofmann (Wolfgang) (accepted) > Andres Oliva (Dessi) (?) > > Wolfgang Kleinwaechter (Vittorio) (rejected) > > -- > vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- > --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <-------- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:13:21 +0200 > From: S?bastien Bachollet <sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr> > Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Nominations - update II > To: "'Discussion for At-Large Europe'" > <euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Message-ID: <011c01c78733$21260490$9601a8c0@C400SBTBBS> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear all, > I support this proposition. > I just want to tell you that I will be in the US from the 1st to the 6th > of > May therefore I would like to be able to have our discussion before. > Thanks > > S?bastien Bachollet > Pr?sident > sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr > www.egeni.org > www.isoc.fr > > -----Message d'origine----- > De?: euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de > Vittorio > Bertola > Envoy??: mercredi 25 avril 2007 13:58 > ??: Discussion for At-Large Europe > Objet?: [EURO-Discuss] Nominations - update II > > All, > > this is the current status of nominations. The people who did not accept > or reject yet are kindly expected to do so as soon as possible. > (Wolfgang - you wrote that both Veronica and Desiree accepted, but I > find it hard to vote for someone who has never sent a single message to > this mailing list - could you please encourage them to join the list and > send a message of acceptance and self-introduction?) > > For the rest, I would follow Annette's suggestion and start the > discussion on the two slates of candidates and on the number of Board > members. In the revised schedule, voting was expected to start on April > 29th but let's see how the discussion goes - if the discussion is still > alive and productive, I'm also fine with waiting until May 5th for the > vote. > > By the way - assuming that all nominations are accepted, we now have > eight candidates for the Board. If we agreed that whoever is not elected > for the ALAC is added to the Board, we could have a 9-member Board and > the two ALAC members, not reject anyone's desire to contribute, and only > have to vote (if necessary) once. What would you think of this? > > Regards, > > > == Nominations for the ALAC > > Patrick Vande Walle (self-nomination) (accepted) > Sebastien Bachollet (Dessi) (accepted) > Veronica Cretu (Wolfgang) (?) > > Dessi Pefeva (Vittorio) (rejected) > > > == Nominations for the EURALO Board > > Rudi Vansnick (self-nomination) (accepted) > Vittorio Bertola (self-nomination) (accepted) > Dessi Pefeva (Vittorio) (?) > Christoph Bruch (Vittorio, Wolfgang) (accepted) > Desiree Miloshevic (Wolfgang) (?) > Bill Drake (Wolfgang) (accepted) > Jeanette Hofmann (Wolfgang) (accepted) > Andres Oliva (Dessi) (?) > > Wolfgang Kleinwaechter (Vittorio) (rejected) > > -- > vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- > --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <-------- > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.i > cann.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.0/775 - Release Date: 24/04/2007 > 17:43 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.0/775 - Release Date: 24/04/2007 > 17:43 > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:06:38 +0200 > From: Rudi Vansnick <rudi.vansnick(a)isoc.be> > Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] [EURO-ALS] Strawman proposal for the > inclusion of individual users within Euralo > To: Vittorio Bertola <vb(a)bertola.eu> > Cc: Discussion for At-Large Europe > <euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, patrick(a)vande-walle.eu, > Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette(a)wz-berlin.de> > Message-ID: <462F525E.5010808(a)isoc.be> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Vittorio Bertola schreef: >> Jeanette Hofmann ha scritto: >> >>> So, there is actually not much of a difference and individual users have >>> the choice between joining an ALS or the amorphous group for individual >>> users. Actually, this is not a model for individual participation, it >>> just differentiates the structure already there. >>> I would like to participate in an individual capacity. >>> >> >> I think that you could interpret Patrick's proposal in a way that might >> be more suitable to you: instead than the 50 people electing among >> themselves one representative to the GA (which, by the way, is more or >> less what the NARALO is doing to incorporate individual user >> representation: they will have two GA representatives per ALS plus two >> GA representatives of individual NARALO members no matter how many there >> are), each individual EURALO member could get 1/50 = 0.02 votes in the >> GA. Then you would have a non-integer vote count, but each individual >> would still be able to cast a personal vote directly. >> >> For the rest, I support the point that this is just for voting - >> participation in discussions happens at the individual level anyway. >> >> P.S. Why aren't we having this discussion on the -discuss list? The ALS >> list should be for communication to ALSes only, and anyway I've already >> seen two non-ALS-representatives on this list as well, so I guess that >> the set of participants is the same. >> > I'm joining Vittorio's statement above. It clearly gives individuals the > right to vote and participate. > Individual user of the Internet are welcome as they are also welcome in > most of the ISOC Chapters. They also can raise their voice as well as > they may have voting rights. > > In order to avoid continue debating in stead of helping individuals in > what they expect we should do, we could already think about the near > future once we have voted en elected the necessary members. Proposal > issue : what would be the most urgent topic to be considered and handled > by the EURALO board ? > > As Vittorio mentioned also, I'm posting this message on the Euro-discuss > list. > > > Rudi Vansnick > Chair ISOC Belgium > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:51:31 +0200 > From: Kleinw?chter, Wolfgang > <wolfgang.kleinwaechter(a)medienkomm.uni-halle.de> > Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Nominations - update II > To: sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr, Discussion for At-Large Europe > <euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Discussion for At-Large > Europe <euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Message-ID: > <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A808D365(a)server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > The proposed procedure (with nine board EURALO members) is fine for me. > I am leaving for the A2K and CFP conferences in NY and Montreal tomorrow > and will be back on Friday, May 4. . > > I didn?t know that Verinice and Desiree did not send any message to the > EURALO list.Prpobably they are not subscribed. I will send immediately > them a message to reply. > > Regards > > wolfgang > > > > > ________________________________ > > Von: euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org im Auftrag von S?bastien > Bachollet > Gesendet: Mi 25.04.2007 14:13 > An: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe' > Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Nominations - update II > > > > Dear all, > I support this proposition. > I just want to tell you that I will be in the US from the 1st to the 6th > of > May therefore I would like to be able to have our discussion before. > Thanks > > S?bastien Bachollet > Pr?sident > sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr > www.egeni.org > www.isoc.fr > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de > Vittorio > Bertola > Envoy? : mercredi 25 avril 2007 13:58 > ? : Discussion for At-Large Europe > Objet : [EURO-Discuss] Nominations - update II > > All, > > this is the current status of nominations. The people who did not accept > or reject yet are kindly expected to do so as soon as possible. > (Wolfgang - you wrote that both Veronica and Desiree accepted, but I > find it hard to vote for someone who has never sent a single message to > this mailing list - could you please encourage them to join the list and > send a message of acceptance and self-introduction?) > > For the rest, I would follow Annette's suggestion and start the > discussion on the two slates of candidates and on the number of Board > members. In the revised schedule, voting was expected to start on April > 29th but let's see how the discussion goes - if the discussion is still > alive and productive, I'm also fine with waiting until May 5th for the > vote. > > By the way - assuming that all nominations are accepted, we now have > eight candidates for the Board. If we agreed that whoever is not elected > for the ALAC is added to the Board, we could have a 9-member Board and > the two ALAC members, not reject anyone's desire to contribute, and only > have to vote (if necessary) once. What would you think of this? > > Regards, > > > == Nominations for the ALAC > > Patrick Vande Walle (self-nomination) (accepted) > Sebastien Bachollet (Dessi) (accepted) > Veronica Cretu (Wolfgang) (?) > > Dessi Pefeva (Vittorio) (rejected) > > > == Nominations for the EURALO Board > > Rudi Vansnick (self-nomination) (accepted) > Vittorio Bertola (self-nomination) (accepted) > Dessi Pefeva (Vittorio) (?) > Christoph Bruch (Vittorio, Wolfgang) (accepted) > Desiree Miloshevic (Wolfgang) (?) > Bill Drake (Wolfgang) (accepted) > Jeanette Hofmann (Wolfgang) (accepted) > Andres Oliva (Dessi) (?) > > Wolfgang Kleinwaechter (Vittorio) (rejected) > > -- > vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- > --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <-------- > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.i > cann.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.0/775 - Release Date: 24/04/2007 > 17:43 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.0/775 - Release Date: 24/04/2007 > 17:43 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:32:08 +0100 > From: Desiree Miloshevic <dmiloshevic(a)afilias.info> > Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Nominations - update II > To: Discussion for At-Large Europe > <euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Message-ID: <462F6668.7060108(a)afilias.info> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello, > > Greetings to you all. I am subscribed to this mailing list and hereby I > am delighted to confirm my willingness to accept Wolfgang's nomination > for the Euralo Board seat. > > For those of you who do not know me, my bio can be found here: > http://www.afilias.info/contact/desiree_miloshevic > > I look forward to working with you all. > > atb, > > Desiree > -- > > > Vittorio Bertola wrote: >> All, >> >> this is the current status of nominations. The people who did not accept >> or reject yet are kindly expected to do so as soon as possible. >> (Wolfgang - you wrote that both Veronica and Desiree accepted, but I >> find it hard to vote for someone who has never sent a single message to >> this mailing list - could you please encourage them to join the list and >> send a message of acceptance and self-introduction?) >> >> For the rest, I would follow Annette's suggestion and start the >> discussion on the two slates of candidates and on the number of Board >> members. In the revised schedule, voting was expected to start on April >> 29th but let's see how the discussion goes - if the discussion is still >> alive and productive, I'm also fine with waiting until May 5th for the >> vote. >> >> By the way - assuming that all nominations are accepted, we now have >> eight candidates for the Board. If we agreed that whoever is not elected >> for the ALAC is added to the Board, we could have a 9-member Board and >> the two ALAC members, not reject anyone's desire to contribute, and only >> have to vote (if necessary) once. What would you think of this? >> >> Regards, >> >> >> == Nominations for the ALAC >> >> Patrick Vande Walle (self-nomination) (accepted) >> Sebastien Bachollet (Dessi) (accepted) >> Veronica Cretu (Wolfgang) (?) >> >> Dessi Pefeva (Vittorio) (rejected) >> >> >> == Nominations for the EURALO Board >> >> Rudi Vansnick (self-nomination) (accepted) >> Vittorio Bertola (self-nomination) (accepted) >> Dessi Pefeva (Vittorio) (?) >> Christoph Bruch (Vittorio, Wolfgang) (accepted) >> Desiree Miloshevic (Wolfgang) (?) >> Bill Drake (Wolfgang) (accepted) >> Jeanette Hofmann (Wolfgang) (accepted) >> Andres Oliva (Dessi) (?) >> >> Wolfgang Kleinwaechter (Vittorio) (rejected) >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > EURO-Discuss mailing list > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > > End of EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 6, Issue 20 > ******************************************* > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.10/774 - Release Date: 23.04.2007 > 17:26 >

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] [EURO-ALS] Strawman proposal for the inclusion of individual users within Euralo
by Rudi Vansnick April 25, 2007

April 25, 2007

Vittorio Bertola schreef: > Jeanette Hofmann ha scritto: > >> So, there is actually not much of a difference and individual users have >> the choice between joining an ALS or the amorphous group for individual >> users. Actually, this is not a model for individual participation, it >> just differentiates the structure already there. >> I would like to participate in an individual capacity. >> > > I think that you could interpret Patrick's proposal in a way that might > be more suitable to you: instead than the 50 people electing among > themselves one representative to the GA (which, by the way, is more or > less what the NARALO is doing to incorporate individual user > representation: they will have two GA representatives per ALS plus two > GA representatives of individual NARALO members no matter how many there > are), each individual EURALO member could get 1/50 = 0.02 votes in the > GA. Then you would have a non-integer vote count, but each individual > would still be able to cast a personal vote directly. > > For the rest, I support the point that this is just for voting - > participation in discussions happens at the individual level anyway. > > P.S. Why aren't we having this discussion on the -discuss list? The ALS > list should be for communication to ALSes only, and anyway I've already > seen two non-ALS-representatives on this list as well, so I guess that > the set of participants is the same. > I'm joining Vittorio's statement above. It clearly gives individuals the right to vote and participate. Individual user of the Internet are welcome as they are also welcome in most of the ISOC Chapters. They also can raise their voice as well as they may have voting rights. In order to avoid continue debating in stead of helping individuals in what they expect we should do, we could already think about the near future once we have voted en elected the necessary members. Proposal issue : what would be the most urgent topic to be considered and handled by the EURALO board ? As Vittorio mentioned also, I'm posting this message on the Euro-discuss list. Rudi Vansnick Chair ISOC Belgium

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