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Re: [EURO-Discuss] not so fast (Re: SIGNERS FOR TOMORROW - URGENT EMAIL)
by Nick Ashton-Hart March 28, 2007

March 28, 2007

Definitely - I'm not ignoring you Thomas, I'm just under the gun to finish the staging order for the ceremony tomorrow rather urgently as it is quite complex and involves many people as you can imagine... On 28/03/07, Thomas Roessler <roessler(a)does-not-exist.org> wrote: > Hi Nick, > > how about an answer to the questions in this message? > > | From: Thomas Roessler <roessler(a)does-not-exist.org> > | To: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org, > | Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > | Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:05:55 +0200 > | Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Signing the MoUs > > On another matter, I notice the following in your proposed > electronic signing statement: > > | I hereby consent for [INSERT ORGANISATION FULL NAME] to be bound by > | the terms of the Memorandum of Understanding between ICANN and the > | Signing Organisations in the European Region as if I were personally > | signing the document. > > How does this language (which clearly suggests some kind of binding > effect) mix with this statement of yours to the na-discuss list, > made last Friday? > > | From: "Nick Ashton-Hart" <nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org> > | Subj: Re: [NA-Discuss] Suggestion: Name the public as intended beneficiary > | of RALO MOUs > | Date: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:33 am > | Size: 2K > | To: "Wendy Seltzer" <wendy(a)seltzer.com> > | cc: "Michael Maranda" <mmaranda(a)afcn.org>, na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > | > | To clarify, as I have been given to understand the MoUs between ICANN > | and the regions is not a contract as that term is understood in law. > | It is an agreement, but not of legal standing such as a contract. > > Thanks for your clarification, > -- > Thomas Roessler <roessler(a)does-not-exist.org> > > > > > > On 2007-03-28 13:13:25 +0100, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: > > From: Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org> > > To: bruch(a)humanistische-union.de, kiravuo(a)tml.hut.fi, > > Wolfgang Kleinwächter > > <Wolfgang.kleinwaechter(a)medienkomm.uni-halle.de>, > > wolfgang(a)imv.au.dk, aoliva(a)isoc-cat.org, aoliva(a)diplomaticnet.com, > > dpefeva(a)isoc.bg, patrick(a)vande-walle.eu, Patrick(a)isoc.lu, > > rudi.vansnick(a)isoc.be, sebastien.bachollet(a)isoc.fr > > Cc: Europe Discuss <euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:13:25 +0100 > > Subject: [EURO-Discuss] SIGNERS FOR TOMORROW - URGENT EMAIL > > Reply-To: Discussion for At-Large Europe > > <euro-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > List-Id: Discussion for At-Large Europe > > <euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org.atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > X-Spam-Level: > > X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.1.5 > > > > Dear All: > > > > I have heard from the following people with the details required to finish > > the signature page. > > > > IF YOU ARE NOT ON THE LIST BELOW PLEASE REPLY ASAP (BEFORE END OF DAY > > WEDNESDAY) OR YOU WILL NOT BE ONE OF THE SIGNERS OF THE MOU ON THURSDAY! > > > > Internet Society - Bulgaria > > Signing person: Dragoslava Pefeva > > Position: Coordinator for ALAC > > > > Name of Organisation: Medienstadt Leipzig e.V. > > > > Name of Signer: Wolfgang Kleinwächter > > > > Position of Signer: Member of the Board > > > > > Name of Organisation : Internet Society Belgium > > > > > Name of Signer : Rudi Vansnick > > > > > Position of Signer : Chair > > > > Name of Organisation Internet Society Luxembourg > > > > Name of Signer Patrick Vande Walle > > > > Position of Signer Chairman > > > > Name of Organisation Chapitre français de l'Internet Society – Isoc > > France > > > > Name of Signer Sébastien Bachollet > > > > Position of Signer Président > > > > > > DIGITAL SIGNERS > > > > (SEE SEPARATE EMAIL ON THIS SUBJECT) > > > > Christophe BRUCH > > "German Civil Liberties Union / Humanistische Union" (GCLU) > > > > Board Member > > > > > Name of Organisation: netzwerk neue medien (nnm) - network new media > > (nnm) > > > > > Name of Signer: Annette Muehlberg > > > > > Position of Signer: Chair > > > _______________________________________________ > > EURO-Discuss mailing list > > EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.… > > > -- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Why no room for individuals in the RALO?
by Wendy Seltzer March 28, 2007

March 28, 2007

Please help me to understand why you are creating a RALO that excludes individuals who haven't found a congenial ALS. It looks to me as though this structure just further disenfranchises the individuals from ICANN processes. Why should the individual Internet user support this structure? When I asked earlier, I had thought the European group was including individual participants. Why the rush? --Wendy At 08:21 AM 3/28/2007, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote: >Dear European Colleagues: > >For those who are not physically present tomorrow, but would like to >be one of the signers of the MoU, a procedure has been created for you. > >PLEASE SEND IN AS BELOW NOT LATER THAN 1700 THURSDAY 29TH MARCH 2007 > >PLEASE NOTE: There will be a way, as provided by the MoU, to be >determined by the EURALO, for ALSes to consent to be bound by the >MoU at a later date. > >Simply send to me, copied to the list, the following form of words, >with the name of your organisation in place of the brackets, and as >required directly below the sentence: > >------- > >I hereby consent for [INSERT ORGANISATION FULL NAME] to be bound by >the terms of the Memorandum of Understanding between ICANN and the >Signing Organisations in the European Region as if I were personally >signing the document. > >Name >Organisational Title >Date > >---- >Note that I have attached the signature text of the MoU in the >current version. Signatory information will change as the day goes >on and I receive additional signatories' information. -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy(a)seltzer.org Visiting Assistant Professor of Law, Brooklyn Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/

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football
by Vittorio Bertola March 28, 2007

March 28, 2007

Is there anyone that would still be here in Lisbon tonight, that wants to play football in the ALAC team? Please let me know, we really need players. Thanks, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------

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Re: [EURO-Discuss] Signing the MoUs
by Nick Ashton-Hart March 28, 2007

March 28, 2007

I am working with the legal people on a form of words which can be transmitted by email, allowing those who do so to be a signer even if they are not physically present, and we can acknowledge these ALSes as a part of the ceremony. With respect to the EURALO being a party: My suggestion for a procedure to do this most readily would be tha the signing organisations should collectively assign all of their rights and obligations in perpetuity to EURALO and the whole membership thereof. The other way to do this is for a side letter to be signed between ICANN and EURALO acknowledging that EURALO is a signing organisations as well as the individual ALSes who originally signed. The effect of either is the same in the end. On 26/03/07, bruch <bruch(a)zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote: > Hi Nick, > I would like to sign the MoU on behalf of the "German Civil Liberties Union > / Humanistische Union" (GCLU) but have to leave to Berlin tomorrow. > Although I am a member of the board of the GCLU I do need a decision by the > whole board which I will most probably not get until Thursday. But I would > like the GCLU to be listed as an original signing organization once a > positive decision is made by our board. In our meeting you said there is a > solution for this. > > Dear All > We agreed to also have agreed to have EURALO as party to the MoU even though > we do neither have a board yet nor have we decided on the incorporation > question. From my point of view it is of great importance to announce this > integration of EURALO during the signing ceremony. > > Christoph > > _____________________ > Dr. Christoph Bruch > Neue Christstr. 6 > 14059 Berlin > +49 (0)30 - 3210 3282 > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: euro-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Nick > Ashton-Hart > Gesendet: Montag, 26. März 2007 15:20 > An: Discussion for At-Large Europe; Africa Discuss > Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] Signing the MoUs > > Dear African and European Colleagues: > > In order for me to prepare the signature texts for the signing ceremony on > the Thursday, could those of you intending to sign send me the following > information as you wish it to appear on the signature texts: > > Name of Organisation > Name of Signer > Position of Signer > > IF YOU ARE LEAVING BEFORE THURSDAY: > > If you are leaving before the signing ceremony and wish to sign the final > text, I will prepare a signature page early so you can sign in advance. I > will then read out your name during the ceremony so that you are included > even though you are not physically present :) > -- > Regards, > > Nick Ashton-Hart > PO Box 32160 > London N4 2XY > United Kingdom > UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 > USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 > Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 > mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 > Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: > nashtonhart > Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart> > > -- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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{Disarmed} Re: [At-Large] Election of ALAC Chair and Vice-Chair
by Izumi AIZU March 27, 2007

March 27, 2007

I like to echo with what has already been said here to congratulate the two new leaders of ALAC. The regional dominance was brought to our attnetion at the election, but no one really had any problem with two excellent volunteers from LAC region. Well, you guys were the first to bring RALO into existance hence you deserve to take the leadership. Thank for the extra work!! izumi 2007/3/28, Carlton A Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)uwimona.edu.jm>: > > Heartiest congratulations to both Jacqueline and Jose. Even though both > are stalwarts of the LAC region, we are certain they are fit for purpose for > the entire At-Large world. > > > > Carlton > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Nick Ashton-Hart [mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 27, 2007 1:41 AM > *To:* Asia-Pacific Discuss; Europe Discuss; Carlton A. Samuels; Africa > Discuss; LAC Discuss; NA Discuss; At-Large Worldwide > *Subject:* Election of ALAC Chair and Vice-Chair > > > > Good morning At-Large world! > > > > I'm about to go into another meeting but I wanted to inform you that at > the ALAC meeting last night, Jacqueline Morris was elected Chair of the > ALAC, and Jose Ovidio Salgueiro Vice-Chair, both terms lasting until the > ICANN AGM in October 2007. > > > > The ICANN Staff extend our congratulations to both of them on their > election. > > > > -- > Regards, > > Nick Ashton-Hart > Director, At-Large > > ICANN > > PO Box 32160 > London N4 2XY > United Kingdom > Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] > > USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 > > Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 > mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 > email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org > Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype:nashtonhart > > Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ALAC mailing list > ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > www.alac.icann.org > www.icannalac.org > -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for HyperNetwork Society Kumon Center, Tama University * * * * * << Writing the Future of the History >> www.anr.org

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Election of ALAC Chair and Vice-Chair
by Nick Ashton-Hart March 27, 2007

March 27, 2007

Good morning At-Large world! I'm about to go into another meeting but I wanted to inform you that at the ALAC meeting last night, Jacqueline Morris was elected Chair of the ALAC, and Jose Ovidio Salgueiro Vice-Chair, both terms lasting until the ICANN AGM in October 2007. The ICANN Staff extend our congratulations to both of them on their election. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Proposal for the 'Start Up' of EURALO
by Nick Ashton-Hart March 26, 2007

March 26, 2007

Dear European colleagues: As requested at the meeting on Sunday, I provide the following outline of a process, derived from that just used in the Asia Pacific Region, to 'start up' the RALO. Of course this is completely subject to the agreement of the meeting Tuesday morning. I shall provide printed versions at the meeting. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Signing the MoUs
by Nick Ashton-Hart March 26, 2007

March 26, 2007

Dear African and European Colleagues: In order for me to prepare the signature texts for the signing ceremony on the Thursday, could those of you intending to sign send me the following information as you wish it to appear on the signature texts: Name of Organisation Name of Signer Position of Signer IF YOU ARE LEAVING BEFORE THURSDAY: If you are leaving before the signing ceremony and wish to sign the final text, I will prepare a signature page early so you can sign in advance. I will then read out your name during the ceremony so that you are included even though you are not physically present :) -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Signing Ceremony - European and African MoUs at Lisbon
by Nick Ashton-Hart March 26, 2007

March 26, 2007

Dear European and African ALS representatives: The signing ceremony for the two regions, as well as a recognition of the conclusion of the Asia Pacific region's MoU, will be held at approximately 1230 on Thursday as part of the main Public Forum of the ICANN Lisbon meeting. More details will be posted on the regional Wikis and also on the main ICANN meeting website at www.icann.org/meetings/lisbon. Suffice to say that the signing will include a formal ceremony, webcast and scribed live, interpreted into French, Arabic, Spanish and Portuguese, which will be also be recorded and available afterwards. The ALS representatives who are signing the MoU will be invited onstage to sign, their name and ALS name announced, shake hands with Paul and Vint, and photos made available afterwards of each ALS rep as well as the regional group. Those ALS representatives not present to sign in Lisbon will be provided a mechanism to adhere to the MoU without a physical signature. African representatives are electing their regional officers -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Signing Ceremony - European and African MoUs at Lisbon
by Nick Ashton-Hart March 26, 2007

March 26, 2007

Dear European and African ALS representatives: The signing ceremony for the two regions, as well as a recognition of the conclusion of the Asia Pacific region's MoU, will be held at approximately 1230 on Thursday as part of the main Public Forum of the ICANN Lisbon meeting. More details will be posted on the regional Wikis and also on the main ICANN meeting website at www.icann.org/meetings/lisbon. Suffice to say that the signing will include a formal ceremony, webcast and scribed live, interpreted into French, Arabic, Spanish and Portuguese, which will be also be recorded and available afterwards. The ALS representatives who are signing the MoU will be invited onstage to sign, their name and ALS name announced, shake hands with Paul and Vint, and photos made available afterwards of each ALS rep as well as the regional group. Those ALS representatives not present to sign in Lisbon will be provided a mechanism to adhere to the MoU without a physical signature. African representatives are electing their regional officers on Tuesday; Asia -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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