December 2013 - council - lists.icann.org

FW: GNSO Council Comments on ATRT2 Draft Report & Recommendations
by Jonathan Robinson 13 Dec '13

13 Dec '13

All, FYI. Please see below and attached. Thanks to Maria and all councillors who worked on this. Jonathan From: Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com] Sent: 13 December 2013 17:18 To: 'comments-atrt2-recommendations-21oct13(a)icann.org' Subject: GNSO Council Comments on ATRT2 Draft Report & Recommendations Dear ATRT 2 Colleagues, On behalf of the GNSO Council, I am pleased to submit our comments with respect to your Draft Report & Recommendations. Please note that this input is specifically from the GNSO Council, the policy management body of the GNSO, and is therefore focussed on the work of the ATRT 2 with respect to policy development within the GNSO. We thank you for your work and for the opportunities you have provided throughout your deliberations for both interactive engagement and written input. Yours sincerely, Jonathan Robinson Jonathan Robinson Chair ICANN GNSO Council

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GNSO Council Response to the Geographic Regions WG Recommendations
by Gomes, Chuck 13 Dec '13

13 Dec '13

Here's a suggested outline for a GNSO Council Response to the Geographic Regions WG Recommendations: 1. Thank the WG for their considerable and thorough work. 2. Acknowledge a few key points that we strongly support, for example: a. Executive Summary item 7 - ". . provide flexibility to individual communities and structures within ICANN . . . " by permitting them to: follow the same framework as the Board, or develop their own mechanisms (with Board oversight) for ensuring geographic diversity within their own organizations." b. Executive Summary Item 8 - ". . . Staff should also develop and implement a process to permit stakeholder communities in countries or territories to pursue, if they wish, re-assignment to a geographic region that they consider to be more appropriate for their jurisdiction." 3. Call attention to any points about which we have questions, for example: Executive Summary Item 9 - ". . the Working Group recommends that ICANN seek ways to recognize and accommodate Special Interest Groups to promote the interests and unique attributes of stakeholder communities that may not clearly fit into the formal top down regional structures. These "bottom-up" groupings would be complementary to the formal regional framework, and would not replace it. They would not form any part of ICANN's decision-making structure but would be free to lobby for the support of elected representatives. " Some clarification of what is meant by the last sentence would be helpful. Assuming we understand the intent, we would suggest that such groups work within existing structures as much as possible to communicate their concerns. I think this would be much better than saying "no response". This version includes some edits in item 3 that were suggested by an RySG participant. Chuck "This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message immediately."

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RE: [council] Draft ATRT2 Comments
by Alan Greenberg 13 Dec '13

13 Dec '13

I guess the answer to your a or b or c question is YES. We have discussed such options (very briefly), but that is indeed something that we are not being prescriptive about. The real thrust of the recommendation is the word "funded". We (the GNSO and community) are making good progress toward coming up with methodologies which could improve the policy development process, but many of them will require funding (whether for services, travel or additional ICANN staff). What we are looking for is a commitment to put money into the process so that some of these pipe-dreams can become a reality. Alan At 11/12/2013 09:02 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote: >Thanks Alan. Regarding the recommendations about using >facilitators, did the ATRT2 discuss whether these facilitators would >be ICANN staff, community volunteers trained by ICANN or paid >service providers? I understand that this may be more of an >implementation issues than one the ATRT2 may address in the final >report but am just curious. > >Chuck > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alan Greenberg [mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca] >Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:44 PM >To: David Cake; Gomes, Chuck >Cc: Mike O'Connor; Maria Farrell; council(a)gnso.icann.org >Subject: Re: [council] Draft ATRT2 Comments > >I am making these comments purely on my own behalf, but from the >perspective of being an ATRT2 member and the prime author of the >recommendation being discussed. > >First to Mikey, the numbering of the draft report was a mess. This >recommendation was numbered 10 in the Executive Summary and 13 in >the body of the report. The final support will (hopefully, with my >fingers crossed) be far more cohesive. > >The titles were not consistent. The title of the section in the body >of the report was not just a reference to the GNSO PDP but "Improve >the Effectiveness of Cross Community Deliberations". In the final >recommendation there will still be a focus on the GNSO policy >processes (not necessarily limited to the PDP as the Bylaws Annex A >does allow for alternatives - not currently defined), but on wider >deliberations as well. > >On the issue of speed, the intent of this recommendation section was >effective use of participants time, with a possible (and hoped for) >by-product of a faster overall process, so your comments are very >welcome. The hope is that if we can use people's time more >effectively, and they don't feel that much of the time in WG >meetings is wasted, we just might be able to get better >participation. Getting people up to speed outside of the formal WG >meetings may also be a way of getting more people involved and not >boring those who already understand the basic issues. > >The problem with the reference to "facilitators" was noted in Buenos >Aires and the recommendation is being reworked in light of this. The >current draft reads "Develop funded options for professional >services to assist GNSO PDP WGs, and also draft explicit guidelines >for when such options may be invoked. Such services could include >training to enhance work group leaders and participants ability to >address difficult problems and situations, professional >facilitation, mediation, or negotiation." Based on the comment being >developed, it will likely be further revised. > >The issue of "inreach" was also noted in Buenos Aires and has been >incorporated. > >The comments being provided are extremely helpful, and I urge you to >get them submitted prior to the deadline. > >As a personal note (not discussed in the ATRT at all), I am also >looking ahead to the possible outcomes of the Policy and >Implementation WG. It is conceivable that it may be recommended that >when a substantive "policy-like" issue is discovered during what we >are currently calling "implementation", it could be referred back to >the GNSO. If that were to happen, there would have to be FAR faster >ways of coming to closure than we now have in order to no >unreasonably delay the "implementation". Perhaps the kinds of things >that we are talking about here would end up helping in that brave >new world as well. > >Alan

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DSSA -- broadening its exposure
by Mike O'Connor 13 Dec '13

13 Dec '13

hi all, thanks for putting up with my somewhat clumsy handling of the DSSA motion on the call today. shutting that WG down was pretty tough for me and my subconscious was hard at work trying to prevent me from shepherding that motion through. thanks for putting up with my no-so-smooth treatment Avri. i agree with your "with disappointment" caveat on your vote. i wanted to follow up on one point that was raised. i think it would be GREAT if the fabulous work that the WG did, and their suggestions as to a way forward, could get a little more "bandwidth" in the GNSO community. is there a mechanism whereby i could sponsor a webinar about that? or do something else? i don't really know the rules of the road well enough to know how to proceed and would welcome ideas. thanks, mikey PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: www.haven2.com, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)

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Meeting Invitation: GNSO Working Group Newcomer Open House session Monday 16 December 14:00 UTC
by Glen de Saint Géry 13 Dec '13

13 Dec '13

Dear All, The GNSO Working Group Newcomer Open House session is scheduled for Monday, 16 December at 14.00 UTC for 1hr. 06:00 PST, 09:00 EST, 14:00 London, 15:00 CET, 22:00 Beijing/Hong Kong/Taipei for other places see: http://tinyurl.com/msaykmd Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/gnso-welcome/ The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ The dial-in details are below - please let gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> know if you require a dial-out. _______________________________________________________________ Participant passcode: WELCOME For security reasons, the passcode will be required to join the call. _______________________________________________________________ Dial in numbers: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0519 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4842 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7713 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5223 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8129 1-800-657-260 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-113 0800-005-259 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9861 0800-3-8795 BRAZIL 0800-7610651 CHILE 1230-020-2863 CHINA CHINA A: 86-400-810-4789 10800-712-1670 CHINA CHINA B: 86-400-810-4789 10800-120-1670 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156474 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-64 800-700-177 DENMARK 45-7014-0284 8088-8324 ESTONIA 800-011-1093 FINLAND Land Line: 106-33-203 0-800-9-14610 FINLAND Mobile: 09-106-33-203 0-800-9-14610 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-72 080-511-1496 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20362 0800-664-4247 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0687 00800-12-7312 HONG KONG 852-3001-3863 800-962-856 HUNGARY 06-800-12755 INDIA 000-800-852-1268 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3982 IRELAND 353-1-246-7646 1800-992-368 ISRAEL 1-80-9216162 ITALY 39-02-3600-6007 800-986-383 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4799 0066-33-132439 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5191 0066-33-132439 LATVIA 8000-3185 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1364 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3065 MEXICO 001-866-376-9696 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8588 0800-023-4378 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4771 0800-447-722 NORWAY 47-21-590-062 800-15157 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072065 PERU 0800-53713 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3716 POLAND 00-800-1212572 PORTUGAL 8008-14052 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0144011 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-25 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80414 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1083 00798-14800-7352 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 800-300-053 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-348 0200-884-622 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6398 0800-120-032 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7379 00801-137-797 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66056 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9025 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3225 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2125 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7108-6370 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1425 0808-238-6029 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3421 USA 1-517-345-9004 866-692-5726 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3702 Restrictions may exist when accessing freephone/toll free numbers using a mobile telephone. ---------------------------- Thank you, Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org> http://gnso.icann.org

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GNSO Council Meeting Schedule 2014
by Glen de Saint Géry 13 Dec '13

13 Dec '13

Dear Councillors, The following schedule for GNSO Council meetings and motion/documents deadline for 2014 has been published on the GNSO calendar: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar/2014 Stakeholder Groups and constituencies have also been notified as well as the ICANN Board support team. GNSO Council Meeting Schedule and motion/document deadlines. 1. 23 Jan 2014 - 18h00 UTC - motion deadline 13 January 2014 2. 27 Feb 2014 - 11h00 UTC - motion deadline 17 February 2014 3. 26 Mar 2014 - ICANN Singapore motion deadline 16 March 4. 08 May 2014 - 15h00 UTC - motion deadline 28 April 2014 5. 29 May 2014 - 18h00 - motion deadline 19 May 2014 6. 25 Jun 2014 - ICANN London - motion deadline 15 June 2014 7. 24 Jul 2014 - 11h00 - motion deadline 14 July 2014 8. 04 Sep 2014 - 15h00 - motion deadline 25 August 2014 9. 25 Sep 2014 - 18h00 - motion deadline 15 September 2014 10. 15 Oct 2014 - ICANN Los Angeles (Annual Meeting) motion deadline 5 October 2014 11. 13 Nov 2014 - 11h00 - motion deadline 3 November 2014 12. 11 Dec 2014 - 15h00 - motion deadline 1 December 2014 Notes: A. Takes account of ICANN Meetings B. Takes account of Brazil Meeting on 24 April 2014 C. Takes account of an August break D. Takes account of INTA Annual Meeting (Hong Kong - May 10th to 14th) Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org> http://gnso.icann.org

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MP3 recording & chat transcript GNSO Council meeting 12 December 2013
by Glen de Saint Géry 13 Dec '13

13 Dec '13

[To: liaison6c[at]gnso.icann.org; council[at]gnso.icann.org] Please find the MP3 recording of the GNSO Council teleconference held on Thursday, 12 December 2013 at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-council-20131212-en.mp3 as well as the Adobe chat transcript at : http://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-chat-council-12dec13-en.pdf all on page http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#dec Thank you. Happy listening and reading! Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org> http://gnso.icann.org

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Re: [council] friendly amendments to the DSSA motion
by Mike O'Connor 12 Dec '13

12 Dec '13

hi Avri, the DSSA brought this report to the Council a while back (time doesn't permit figuring out exactly when). the report was caught in the usual logjam of crisis stuff and was given a very brief acknowledgement at that time. i would love an extensive discussion in the community and on this list. the part you're quoting though isn't from the report -- that's based on the letter of submission from us co-chairs to our respective Councils (which we should have linked to this motion -- but didn't, so i've attached it to this note). in that letter, we co-chairs are pretty emphatic that the "go ahead with Phase II" option is a bad idea, and that sentence is part of our justification as to why we think that way. sorry for soo terse. hope this helps. happy to discuss on the call mikey On Dec 12, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Avri Doria <avri(a)ella.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Please forgive me for coming late to this topic. > > Just reading the report now, and am wondering about: > > - have these results been extensively presented to the community and discussed with them? (I confessed I missed it). > - what provisions are being made on the remaining issues as reported in the report? > > Specifically: > " > The DSSA believes that if the Phase 2 effort should be undertaken under an updated charter, and by a new group of volunteers with additional expertise should lead that effort. These volunteers will need to be aware that Phase 2 will take a considerable effort to conclude (both in intensity and duration of the work > " > > If I missed the discussions on the mailing list, phrase point me to the correct archive. > > Or is this something that will be discussed at some other time? What other time? > > Thanks > ~~~ > avri > > Mike O'Connor <mike(a)haven2.com> wrote: > hi all, > > my apologies for not noticing this sooner, but i have made some very minor changes to the DSSA motion. i did not proofread my own motion before sending it along and a couple of things needed to be changed from the ccNSO motion that i used as a basis for ours. > > i've attached a redline for your review and am looking for guidance as to the correct way to introduce these changes. > > i do not believe any of these chances are substantive. > > thanks, > > mikey > > > > > PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: www.haven2.com, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.) > PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: www.haven2.com, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)

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Motion on JIG Final Report on Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs
by Ching Chiao [Registry.Asia] 12 Dec '13

12 Dec '13

Dear all -- I'd like to propose the Motion on JIG Final Report on Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs, as attached. Many thanks to Edmon / JIG for the effort. Best, Ching

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friendly amendments to the DSSA motion
by Mike O'Connor 12 Dec '13

12 Dec '13

hi all, my apologies for not noticing this sooner, but i have made some very minor changes to the DSSA motion. i did not proofread my own motion before sending it along and a couple of things needed to be changed from the ccNSO motion that i used as a basis for ours. i've attached a redline for your review and am looking for guidance as to the correct way to introduce these changes. i do not believe any of these chances are substantive. thanks, mikey PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: www.haven2.com, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)

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