July 2003 - council - lists.icann.org

3 Council members or 2?
by Milton Mueller July 13, 2003

July 13, 2003

While we are weighing in on the 3 members per constituency issue, I may as well make it clear that I and most NCUC members I have talked to prefer to remain with the current plan to have only two GNSO Council representatives per constituency. In part, this stems from NCUC's own unique situation, in which we have rarely been able to generate regular and informed participation by all three GNSO Council members. We look forward with relief to the prospect of only needing two members to devote so much time to GNSO Council activities. But we believe the argument applies equally well to the other constituencies, because we note that in almost all cases (the only exception typically being the NCUC, which is actually has the most diversified interests) all three representatives vote the same way. What, then, is the point of having three representatives? If I saw the AF or LAC-region members of the ISPCC, CBUC, IPCC, registrars or gTLD registries consistently voting differently from the NA or EU-region members, I would feel differently about this. But the record shows that invariably the commercial constituencies vote the same way regardless of what region they are from on every significant issue. --MM

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RE: [council] Should we go ahead with the teleconference schedule d for 17 July 2003?
by tony.ar.holmes＠bt.com July 12, 2003

July 12, 2003

Bruce I concur with your proposal to cancel, but ask you to note the need to consider the 3 members per constituency issue at the August meeting as recently raised by Ken Stubbs. Regards Tony -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Tonkin [mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au] Sent: 11 July 2003 10:12 To: council(a)dnso.org Subject: [council] Should we go ahead with the teleconference scheduled for 17 July 2003? Hello All, We have scheduled a GNSO teleconference for 17 July 2003. (see http://www.dnso.org/meetings.html) I am looking at formulating an agenda, and so far I have: - update ICANN President's working group to consider WIPO recommendations ( I haven't been able to get in touch with Paul Twomey on this yet) - staff managers report on UDRP (we haven't received this from ICANN staff yet) - budget report (mainly an update on transition to direct ICANN management of GNSO website and secretariat) - WHOIS Privacy steering group update (nothing has happened since Montreal) We don't have any substantive policy documents to consider at this stage (7 days prior to the meeting). I recommend that we cancel the teleconference scheduled for 17 July, and plan for the next scheduled conference on 14 August 2003. In the meantime I will continue to work with the WHOIS Privacy Steering group to select a chair, and establish contact with Paul Twomey regarding the WIPO recommendations and the need for the UDRP report (which is well overdue). I also want to ensure that the outcome of the deletes task force is properly communicated to ICANN and the GAC to ensure it is ready for decision by the ICANN Board at its next meeting. Please let me know if there is any substantial reason to hold a meeting on 17 July 2003. Regards, Bruce Tonkin Chair

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RE: [council] Should we go ahead with the teleconference schedule d for 17 July 2003?
by tony.ar.holmes＠bt.com July 12, 2003

July 12, 2003

Ken I think you make some excellent points. This is also viewed as an extremely important issue for the ISPCP and I fully endorse the action you propose. Regards Tony -----Original Message----- From: Ken Stubbs [mailto:kstubbs@digitel.net] Sent: 11 July 2003 13:11 To: council(a)dnso.org; Bruce Tonkin Subject: Re: [council] Should we go ahead with the teleconference scheduled for 17 July 2003? Bruce & fellow council members... I am in support of Bruce's suggestions but like to remind the council that one item that should be vetted very soon is a follow-up on the names council recommendation to the board to continue to keep the size of the council at 3 members per constituency.. given the normal ICANN lead times, this issue needs to be dealt with soon enough so that the board has adequate time to deal with this issue. in my personal opinion, the council has, over the last 6 months , worked much more efficiently and, given the current geo-political environment we are operating in, as well as some of the very sensitive issues before us (such as privacy), it is increasing important that the council maintain continued broad global inclusiveness & balance. at the time that the new by-laws were being formulated we were given commitments that our concerns about this issue would be given serious re-consideration by the board . given that all the constituencies must hold elections this fall for council member vacancies, i personally feel that this issue needs to be dealt with ASAP. I certainly am not proposing that this be dealt with in a July meeting but it definitely needs to be on the august agenda and i would hope that between now & the august meeting we could come up with a proposal & formal council action to be reaffirmed by vote in the august meeting.. i would appreciate additional input on this topic from other council members best wishes ken stubbs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin(a)melbourneit.com.au> To: <council(a)dnso.org> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 5:11 AM Subject: [council] Should we go ahead with the teleconference scheduled for 17 July 2003? > Hello All, > > We have scheduled a GNSO teleconference for 17 July 2003. (see > http://www.dnso.org/meetings.html) > > I am looking at formulating an agenda, and so far I have: > - update ICANN President's working group to consider WIPO > recommendations ( I haven't been able to get in touch with Paul Twomey > on this yet) > - staff managers report on UDRP (we haven't received this from ICANN > staff yet) > - budget report (mainly an update on transition to direct ICANN > management of GNSO website and secretariat) > - WHOIS Privacy steering group update (nothing has happened since > Montreal) > > We don't have any substantive policy documents to consider at this > stage (7 days prior to the meeting). > > I recommend that we cancel the teleconference scheduled for 17 July, > and plan for the next scheduled conference on 14 August 2003. > > In the meantime I will continue to work with the WHOIS Privacy > Steering group to select a chair, and establish contact with Paul > Twomey regarding the WIPO recommendations and the need for the UDRP > report (which is well overdue). I also want to ensure that the > outcome of the deletes task force is properly communicated to ICANN > and the GAC to ensure it is ready for decision by the ICANN Board at > its next meeting. > > Please let me know if there is any substantial reason to hold a > meeting on 17 July 2003. > > Regards, > Bruce Tonkin > Chair > >

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Re: [council] Should we go ahead with the teleconference scheduled for 17 July 2003?
by Milton Mueller July 11, 2003

July 11, 2003

You have my support for canceling the teleconference. >>> "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin(a)melbourneit.com.au> 07/11/03 05:11AM >>> Hello All, We have scheduled a GNSO teleconference for 17 July 2003. (see http://www.dnso.org/meetings.html) I am looking at formulating an agenda, and so far I have: - update ICANN President's working group to consider WIPO recommendations ( I haven't been able to get in touch with Paul Twomey on this yet) - staff managers report on UDRP (we haven't received this from ICANN staff yet) - budget report (mainly an update on transition to direct ICANN management of GNSO website and secretariat) - WHOIS Privacy steering group update (nothing has happened since Montreal) We don't have any substantive policy documents to consider at this stage (7 days prior to the meeting). I recommend that we cancel the teleconference scheduled for 17 July, and plan for the next scheduled conference on 14 August 2003. In the meantime I will continue to work with the WHOIS Privacy Steering group to select a chair, and establish contact with Paul Twomey regarding the WIPO recommendations and the need for the UDRP report (which is well overdue). I also want to ensure that the outcome of the deletes task force is properly communicated to ICANN and the GAC to ensure it is ready for decision by the ICANN Board at its next meeting. Please let me know if there is any substantial reason to hold a meeting on 17 July 2003. Regards, Bruce Tonkin Chair

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RE: [council] Should we go ahead with the teleconference scheduled for 17 July 2003?
by Cade,Marilyn S - LGCRP July 11, 2003

July 11, 2003

Ken, Thanks for putting this issue back before Council. I personally support the need to work on this, and on behalf of my other BC members, who due to time zones, may not have seen this, this remains a high priority to the BC membership. Regards, Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: Ken Stubbs [mailto:kstubbs@digitel.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 8:11 AM To: council(a)dnso.org; Bruce Tonkin Subject: Re: [council] Should we go ahead with the teleconference scheduled for 17 July 2003? Bruce & fellow council members... I am in support of Bruce's suggestions but like to remind the council that one item that should be vetted very soon is a follow-up on the names council recommendation to the board to continue to keep the size of the council at 3 members per constituency.. given the normal ICANN lead times, this issue needs to be dealt with soon enough so that the board has adequate time to deal with this issue. in my personal opinion, the council has, over the last 6 months , worked much more efficiently and, given the current geo-political environment we are operating in, as well as some of the very sensitive issues before us (such as privacy), it is increasing important that the council maintain continued broad global inclusiveness & balance. at the time that the new by-laws were being formulated we were given commitments that our concerns about this issue would be given serious re-consideration by the board . given that all the constituencies must hold elections this fall for council member vacancies, i personally feel that this issue needs to be dealt with ASAP. I certainly am not proposing that this be dealt with in a July meeting but it definitely needs to be on the august agenda and i would hope that between now & the august meeting we could come up with a proposal & formal council action to be reaffirmed by vote in the august meeting.. i would appreciate additional input on this topic from other council members best wishes ken stubbs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin(a)melbourneit.com.au> To: <council(a)dnso.org> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 5:11 AM Subject: [council] Should we go ahead with the teleconference scheduled for 17 July 2003? > Hello All, > > We have scheduled a GNSO teleconference for 17 July 2003. > (see http://www.dnso.org/meetings.html) > > I am looking at formulating an agenda, and so far I have: > - update ICANN President's working group to consider WIPO > recommendations ( I haven't been able to get in touch with Paul Twomey > on this yet) > - staff managers report on UDRP (we haven't received this from ICANN > staff yet) > - budget report (mainly an update on transition to direct ICANN > management of GNSO website and secretariat) > - WHOIS Privacy steering group update (nothing has happened since > Montreal) > > We don't have any substantive policy documents to consider at this stage > (7 days prior to the meeting). > > I recommend that we cancel the teleconference scheduled for 17 July, and > plan for the next scheduled conference on 14 August 2003. > > In the meantime I will continue to work with the WHOIS Privacy Steering > group to select a chair, and establish contact with Paul Twomey > regarding the WIPO recommendations and the need for the UDRP report > (which is well overdue). I also want to ensure that the outcome of the > deletes task force is properly communicated to ICANN and the GAC to > ensure it is ready for decision by the ICANN Board at its next meeting. > > Please let me know if there is any substantial reason to hold a meeting > on 17 July 2003. > > Regards, > Bruce Tonkin > Chair > >

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RE: [council] Should we go ahead with the teleconference scheduled for 17 July 2003?
by ROESCH, LYNDA July 11, 2003

July 11, 2003

I agree. -----Original Message----- From: Cade,Marilyn S - LGCRP [mailto:mcade@att.com] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 7:48 AM To: Bruce Tonkin Cc: council(a)dnso.org Subject: RE: [council] Should we go ahead with the teleconference scheduled for 17 July 2003? I am comfortable with canceling the July teleconference of Council. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Keller [mailto:tom@schlund.de] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 6:57 AM To: Bruce Tonkin Cc: council(a)dnso.org Subject: Re: [council] Should we go ahead with the teleconference scheduled for 17 July 2003? I second this motion. tom Am 11.07.2003 schrieb Bruce Tonkin: > Hello All, > > We have scheduled a GNSO teleconference for 17 July 2003. > (see http://www.dnso.org/meetings.html) > > I am looking at formulating an agenda, and so far I have: > - update ICANN President's working group to consider WIPO > recommendations ( I haven't been able to get in touch with Paul Twomey > on this yet) > - staff managers report on UDRP (we haven't received this from ICANN > staff yet) > - budget report (mainly an update on transition to direct ICANN > management of GNSO website and secretariat) > - WHOIS Privacy steering group update (nothing has happened since > Montreal) > > We don't have any substantive policy documents to consider at this stage > (7 days prior to the meeting). > > I recommend that we cancel the teleconference scheduled for 17 July, and > plan for the next scheduled conference on 14 August 2003. > > In the meantime I will continue to work with the WHOIS Privacy Steering > group to select a chair, and establish contact with Paul Twomey > regarding the WIPO recommendations and the need for the UDRP report > (which is well overdue). I also want to ensure that the outcome of the > deletes task force is properly communicated to ICANN and the GAC to > ensure it is ready for decision by the ICANN Board at its next meeting. > > Please let me know if there is any substantial reason to hold a meeting > on 17 July 2003. > > Regards, > Bruce Tonkin > Chair > > Gruss, tom (__) (OO)_____ (oo) /|\ A cow is not entirely full of | |--/ | * milk some of it is hamburger! w w w w ***************************************************************** This email has been scanned by MailMax. http://www.maximizeit.net ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** This electronic message transmission contains information from the law firm of Dinsmore & Shohl which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify us by telephone (1-800-934-3477) or by electronic mail (netadmin(a)dinslaw.com) immediately. *****************************************************************

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RE: [council] Should we go ahead with the teleconference scheduled for 17 July 2003?
by Cade,Marilyn S - LGCRP July 11, 2003

July 11, 2003

I am comfortable with canceling the July teleconference of Council. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Keller [mailto:tom@schlund.de] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 6:57 AM To: Bruce Tonkin Cc: council(a)dnso.org Subject: Re: [council] Should we go ahead with the teleconference scheduled for 17 July 2003? I second this motion. tom Am 11.07.2003 schrieb Bruce Tonkin: > Hello All, > > We have scheduled a GNSO teleconference for 17 July 2003. > (see http://www.dnso.org/meetings.html) > > I am looking at formulating an agenda, and so far I have: > - update ICANN President's working group to consider WIPO > recommendations ( I haven't been able to get in touch with Paul Twomey > on this yet) > - staff managers report on UDRP (we haven't received this from ICANN > staff yet) > - budget report (mainly an update on transition to direct ICANN > management of GNSO website and secretariat) > - WHOIS Privacy steering group update (nothing has happened since > Montreal) > > We don't have any substantive policy documents to consider at this stage > (7 days prior to the meeting). > > I recommend that we cancel the teleconference scheduled for 17 July, and > plan for the next scheduled conference on 14 August 2003. > > In the meantime I will continue to work with the WHOIS Privacy Steering > group to select a chair, and establish contact with Paul Twomey > regarding the WIPO recommendations and the need for the UDRP report > (which is well overdue). I also want to ensure that the outcome of the > deletes task force is properly communicated to ICANN and the GAC to > ensure it is ready for decision by the ICANN Board at its next meeting. > > Please let me know if there is any substantial reason to hold a meeting > on 17 July 2003. > > Regards, > Bruce Tonkin > Chair > > Gruss, tom (__) (OO)_____ (oo) /|\ A cow is not entirely full of | |--/ | * milk some of it is hamburger! w w w w

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Should we go ahead with the teleconference scheduled for 17 July 2003?
by Bruce Tonkin July 11, 2003

July 11, 2003

Hello All, We have scheduled a GNSO teleconference for 17 July 2003. (see http://www.dnso.org/meetings.html) I am looking at formulating an agenda, and so far I have: - update ICANN President's working group to consider WIPO recommendations ( I haven't been able to get in touch with Paul Twomey on this yet) - staff managers report on UDRP (we haven't received this from ICANN staff yet) - budget report (mainly an update on transition to direct ICANN management of GNSO website and secretariat) - WHOIS Privacy steering group update (nothing has happened since Montreal) We don't have any substantive policy documents to consider at this stage (7 days prior to the meeting). I recommend that we cancel the teleconference scheduled for 17 July, and plan for the next scheduled conference on 14 August 2003. In the meantime I will continue to work with the WHOIS Privacy Steering group to select a chair, and establish contact with Paul Twomey regarding the WIPO recommendations and the need for the UDRP report (which is well overdue). I also want to ensure that the outcome of the deletes task force is properly communicated to ICANN and the GAC to ensure it is ready for decision by the ICANN Board at its next meeting. Please let me know if there is any substantial reason to hold a meeting on 17 July 2003. Regards, Bruce Tonkin Chair

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