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January 2006
- 24 participants
- 89 discussions
Dear all,
FYI - in order to promote the Call for Papers to an audience beyond the
faithful readers of the ICANN website, we are placing ads in international
press, due to be published on Friday this week.
Very best regards
Olof
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Jan. 10, 2006
Hello Cary,
>
> At least in the academic frame of reference (is there any
> other where papers are an established production format?) the
> incentive to respond to a formal call for papers depends
> directly on the attractiveness of the publication venue.
It also usually depends on the credibility of a peer review process so
that the academic can count it as an official publication.
If we need to cater for this market specifically - one approach is to
create an online journal, where the best papers submitted on GNSO issues
are published - with an appropriate peer review process.
In any case, all papers will be published online and archived. A
selection of substantive papers will be presented via oral presentation.
Both an audio file and a full transcript of any oral presentations will
be made for the public record.
Regards,
Bruce Tonkin
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Jan. 10, 2006
[To: council[at]gnso.icann.org]
Dear Council Members,
Please find a further revised draft minutes of the GNSO Council meeting
held in Vancouver on 28 November 2005.
1. The end of the sentence: "situations as they arise." has been added
to item 7:
Consensus policy recommendation from the WHOIS task force
2. Olof Nordling was present at the meeting.
Please let me know if there are other changes to be made.
Thank you very much.
Kind regards,
Glen
28 November 2005
Proposed agenda and related documents
List of attendees:
Philip Sheppard - Commercial & Business Users C.
Marilyn Cade - Commercial & Business Users C.
Grant Forsyth - Commercial & Business Users C - remote participation
Greg Ruth - ISCPC - absent - apologies - proxy to Tony Holmes
Antonio Harris - ISCPC - proxy to Tony Holmes (joined meeting after roll
call)
Tony Holmes - ISCPC
Thomas Keller- Registrars
Ross Rader - Registrars (joined meeting after roll call)
Bruce Tonkin - Registrars
Ken Stubbs - gTLD registries
Philip Colebrook - gTLD registries - remote participation
Cary Karp - gTLD registries
Lucy Nichols - Intellectual Property Interests C - absent - apologies -
proxy to Niklas Lagergren
Niklas Lagergren - Intellectual Property Interests C
Kiyoshi Tsuru - Intellectual Property Interests C. - absent - apologies
- proxy to Niklas Lagergren
Robin Gross - Non Commercial Users C.- remote participation
Norbert Klein - Non Commercial Users C.
Alick Wilson - Nominating Committee appointee - remote participation
Maureen Cubberley - Nominating Committee appointee
Avri Doria - Nominating Committee appointee
17 Council Members
ICANN Staff
Olof Nordling - Manager, Policy Development Coordination
Maria Farrell - ICANN GNSO Policy Support Officer
Liz Williams - Senior Policy Counselor
Tina Dam - Chief gTLD Registry Liaison
Diane Schroeder - General Manager, Conferences, Administration & Finance
Glen de Saint Géry - GNSO Secretariat
GNSO Council Liaisons
Suzanne Sene - GAC Liaison - absent - apologies
Bret Fausett - acting ALAC Liaison - absent - apologies
Michael Palage - ICANN Board member - absent - apologies
Quorum present at 9: 12 PST.
Two MP3 recordings of the second part of the meeting (not very clear)
http://gnso-audio.icann.org/GNSO-Council20051122.mp3
http://gnso-audio.icann.org/GNSO2-20051122;MP3.mp3
Bruce Tonkin and Philip Sheppard chaired this teleconference.
Approval of Agenda
Diane Schroeder addressed the meeting informing the Council of an
important time modification to the schedule for the GNSO Public Forum
and GNSO Council meeting on Friday 2 December 2005 in Vancouver.
Marilyn Cade proposed ending the meeting early to prepare for the joint
meeting with the ICANN Board in the afternoon.
Ken Stubbs, seconded by Marilyn Cade proposed Philip Sheppard as chair
for the election process.
Motion carried unanimously
Decision 1: Philip Sheppard chaired the GNSO Council meeting for the
election process.
Item 3: Election of GNSO Council chair
- Bruce Tonkin has been nominated and seconded
- term from 18 Nov 2005 until one month after 2005 AGM (4 Jan 2006)
Philip Sheppard proposed:
Whereas Bruce Tonkin had been nominated by Ken Stubbs and seconded by
Ross Rader as GNSO Council chair for the period from 18 November 2005
until one month after 2005 AGM (4 January 2006)
Recommended that Bruce Tonkin be elected as GNSO Council chair for the
period 18 November 2005 until one month after the 2005 ICANN Annual
General Meeting (4 January 2006).
Philip Sheppard called for a formal roll call vote.
The motion carried unanimously.
No vote was recorded for Tony Harris who joined the meeting late.
Decision 2: Bruce Tonkin was elected as GNSO Council chair for the
period 18 November 2005 until one month after the 2005 ICANN Annual
General Meeting (4 January 2006).
Philip Sheppard formally handed the chair to Bruce Tonkin.
Item 4: Approval of minutes
- GNSO Council teleconference - 13 October 2005
- GNSO Council teleconference - 20 October 2005
Maureen Cubberley moved the adoption of the minutes.
The motion carried. Niklas Lagergren abstained
Decision 3: The GNSO Council minutes of 13 October 2005 and 20 October
2005 were adopted.
Item 5: Evaluation of new gtlds (.biz, .info etc as well as .travel,
.jobs. .mobi etc)
- update on questions to structure the evaluation
Olof Nordling commented that the document elaborated the need for
further evaluation of recently introduced gTLDs and proposed an approach
for this, focused to inform ongoing work on policy aspects regarding the
introduction of new gTLDs.
Discussions on an evaluation of the ongoing sTLD round were under way
with the consultant that performed the main evaluation of the
“proof-of-concept” round for ICANN. It was recommended that the GNSO
Council stated that questions relating to selection criteria, allocation
methods and contractual conditions were of particular relevance in this
context. The document proposed a draft list of questions to this end.
The report was designed to give the GNSO Council the information
necessary to discuss and decide on ways to proceed with additional
evaluation aspects of assigned new TLDs.
Maureen Cubberley referred to page 8 of the report, 'consideration for
additional review', and commented that there was a need for emphasis on
the process of decision making that informed the evaluation. It was
essential to look at the content of the recent Request for Proposals
(RFP) for the sponsored round of gTLDs .
Bruce Tonkin pointed out that the new gTLD process was under discussion,
and that the evaluation was driven by a process several years ago. There
were two issues, one, how to improve the process and the second, should
new gTLDs be introduced.
Marilyn Cade noted from the Business Constituency’s perspective, that
clear guidance was given for the recent round of gTLDs to be sponsored.
Sponsored was discussed in depth yet there appeared to be a limited
match in the case of some of the applicants. Further guidance and
criteria on ‘sponsored’was required.
Maureen Cubberley commented that ambiguities in the RFP led to the issue.
Bruce Tonkin proposed that the project manager (Miriam Sapiro) produce a
‘lessons learnt’ paper, a quick follow up of the report in terms of the
outcome, which should not be wider but intended as input to a subsequent
wider process and that an "independent external review" be carried out
by someone different from the project manager.
ACTION
Council was encouraged to examine the list of questions and provide
further questions to Miriam Sapiro.
Further it was suggested that Miriam Sapiro do a presentation at the
GNSO Public Forum on Friday 2 December 2005.
Item 6: Policy Development Process for new gtlds
- discuss issues report
- decide whether to commence a PDP
Bruce Tonkin referred to the ICANN Bylaws.
Section 2. Creation of the Issue Report
Within fifteen (15) calendar days after receiving either (i) an
instruction from the Board; (ii) a properly supported motion from a
Council member; or (iii) a properly supported motion from an Advisory
Committee, the Staff Manager will create a report (an "Issue Report").
Each Issue Report shall contain at least the following:
Section 2. Creation of the Issue Report had been completed
Section 2 e. A recommendation from the Staff Manager as to whether the
Council should initiate the PDP for this issue (the "Staff
Recommendation"). Each Staff Recommendation shall include the opinion of
the ICANN General Counsel regarding whether the issue proposed to
initiate the PDP is properly within the scope of the ICANN policy
process and within the scope of the GNSO. In determining whether the
issue is properly within the scope of the ICANN policy process, the
General Counsel shall examine whether such issue:
The staff manager, Olof Nordling had recommended that a PDP be initiated.
Bruce Tonkin proposed that at the current meeting the Council vote to
commence a PDP.
Marilyn Cade, seconded by Tom Keller proposed:
Whereas, the GNSO Council recognises that the review of the GNSO Council
held in 2004 recommended that the PDP timelines be reviewed.
The GNSO votes to initiate the PDP on new gTLDs. The GNSO will develop a
work program in consultation with the ICANN staff and ICANN board that
sets out a timeframe for work
The vote was by show of hands.
The motion carried unanimously. No abstentions
Decision 4:
Whereas, the GNSO Council recognises that the review of the GNSO Council
held in 2004 recommended that the PDP timelines be reviewed.
The GNSO votes to initiate the PDP on new gTLDs. The GNSO will develop a
work program in consultation with the ICANN staff and ICANN board that
sets out a timeframe for work
Item 7: WHOIS: Final task force report on a policy recommendation and
advice on a procedure for handling conflicts between a
registrar/registry's legal obligations under privacy laws and their
contractual obligations to ICANN
- vote on final recommendation as completed by the WHOIS task force on
19 Oct
Bruce Tonkin noted that the "advice" as set forth was not consensus policy.
Niklas Lagergren stated that the task force Final Report was supported
unanimously by the WHOIS task force.
Ross Rader, a member of the task force raised a procedural question that
after the task force had already voted on the final report, it should be
made precise that reference was to the gTLD WHOIS service and did not
refer to the protocol, the RIR WHOIS service or the country code WHOIS
service.
Tom Keller seconded by Niklas Lagergren proposed that:
The GNSO votes in favour of the following consensus policy
recommendation from the WHOIS task force
CONSENSUS POLICY RECOMMENDATION
In order to facilitate reconciliation of any conflicts between
local/national mandatory privacy laws or regulations and applicable
provisions of the ICANN contract regarding the collection, display and
distribution of personal data via the gTLD Whois service, ICANN should:
Develop and publicly document a procedure for dealing with the situation
in which a registrar or registry can credibly demonstrate that it is
legally prevented by local/national privacy laws or regulations from
fully complying with applicable provisions of its ICANN contract
regarding the collection, display and distribution of personal data via
the gTLD WHOIS service.
Create goals for the procedure which include:
Ensuring that ICANN staff is informed of a conflict at the earliest
appropriate juncture;
Resolving the conflict, if possible, in a manner conducive to ICANN's
Mission, applicable Core Values and the stability and uniformity of the
Whois system;
Providing a mechanism for the recognition, if appropriate, in
circumstances where the conflict cannot be otherwise resolved, of an
exception to contractual obligations to those registries/registrars to
which the specific conflict applies with regard to collection, display
and distribution of personally identifiable data via the gTLD WHOIS
service; and
Preserving sufficient flexibility for ICANN staff to respond to
particular factual situations as they arise.
The GNSO recommends the ICANN staff consider the advice given in the
task force report as to a recommended procedure.
Bruce Tonkin called for formal roll call vote.
The motion carried.
26 Votes in support
Abstention from Avri Doria:
Reason: Does not believe goes far enough in protecting privacy
Decision 5
The GNSO votes in favour of the following consensus policy
recommendation from the WHOIS task force
CONSENSUS POLICY RECOMMENDATION
In order to facilitate reconciliation of any conflicts between
local/national mandatory privacy laws or regulations and applicable
provisions of the ICANN contract regarding the collection, display and
distribution of personal data via the gTLD WHOIS service, ICANN should:
Develop and publicly document a procedure for dealing with the situation
in which a registrar or registry can credibly demonstrate that it is
legally prevented by local/national privacy laws or regulations from
fully complying with applicable provisions of its ICANN contract
regarding the collection, display and distribution of personal data via
the gTLD WHOIS service.
Create goals for the procedure which include:
Ensuring that ICANN staff is informed of a conflict at the earliest
appropriate juncture;
Resolving the conflict, if possible, in a manner conducive to ICANN's
Mission, applicable Core Values and the stability and uniformity of the
Whois system;
Providing a mechanism for the recognition, if appropriate, in
circumstances where the conflict cannot be otherwise resolved, of an
exception to contractual obligations to those registries/registrars to
which the specific conflict applies with regard to collection, display
and distribution of personally identifiable data via the gTLD WHOIS
service; and
Preserving sufficient flexibility for ICANN staff to respond to
particular factual situations as they arise.
The GNSO recommends the ICANN staff consider the advice given in the
task force report as to a recommended procedure.
Item 8: Policy development for IDNs
- discuss background document
- decide whether to formally request an issues report
section 1 - Raising an Issue
section 2 - Creation of the Issue Report
Bruce Tonkin referred to the background document which listed the
existing resolutions, workshops, and information on the President’s
Advisory Committee, of which Cary Karp was a member, and suggested that
the GNSO request the staff to produce an issues report on the policy
issues using the document as a basis.
Bruce added that there should be clarity for the community what the
policy aspects for the GNSO were.
Cary Karp commented that attention should not only be to constrain 2nd
level of the DNS, the top level and the 3rd and 4th level of the DNS
should also be considered. If control was invoked as a term of
delegation the domain space could not be policed, which means that
anything not permitted should be folded into the underlying possible
standards. The first generation would be a normative framework that
expected anything to be done but allowed policy constraint to guide.
Cary further clarified that internationalization meant changing the
system to make it useable in the polyglot world we live in while making
it work with Cambodia, for example, is localization. An Arabic version
of.com is a localization. The concern is the translated versions of the
gtld labels.
Discussion followed on the motion to be drafted. Due to the complexity
of the topic and in order for constituency discussion, Bruce Tonkin
proposed tabling the following motion to be voted on at the GNSO Council
meeting on Friday 2 December 2005:
Tabled motion:
WHEREAS, the GNSO Council recognises that one of the goals of ICANN to
increase the internationalisation of the domain name space.
WHEREAS, the GNSO Council wishes to liaise closely with the ccNSO with
respect to the issue of localised IDN equivalents of existing gTLDs and
ccTLDs, and for the purpose of jointly requesting an issues report.
The GNSO Council requests that the staff produce an issues report on the
policy issues associated with creating internationalised equivalents of
existing gTLDs, and second level domains within existing gTLDs.
The GNSO also requests that the staff liaise with the ccNSO to ensure
that the policy issues associated with internationalised versions of the
existing ccTLDs can also be considered.
Bruce Tonkin proposed revisiting the process of the PDP on new gTLDs.
and outlined the proposed work:
January to June
- PDP on New gTLDs
- PDP on IDNs
- WHOIS task force - considered to drain a lot of resources
Bruce Tonkin noted that with respect to issues such as WHOIS that will
likely need to evolve over several years, it may be more efficient to
spend a limited time on the issue each year, rather than tie up GNSO
community and staff resources for the whole year, e.g. each year
concentrate 3 months on an issue and spend 2 days face to face, then
leave it alone and pick it up again.
There was general agreement on:
- scheduling new gTLDs work program with significant face to face
interaction time.
- using new technologies, such as wikis and blogs to encourage community
participation
- setting up a group outside Council with expertise to support running a
wiki on the new gTLD issues for the community beyond the council.
- creating a structured mechanism to gather data
Bruce Tonkin recommended that the Council as a whole deal with the new
gTLD PDP using mailing lists, wiki, and a 2 day face to face meeting.
Each new effort should take into account the GNSO Council review
recommendations looking at what has gone before and what can be improved.
The proposed IDN PDP would be managed by a task force of experts and the
constituencies should work on identifying new people with particular skills.
Agenda Item deferred:
Item 8: WHOIS task force
- progress on purpose and definitions of contacts
Bruce Tonkin declared the GNSO meeting closed and thanked everybody for
participating.
The meeting ended: 11: 45 PST.
Next GNSO Council meeting in Vancouver, Friday 2 December 2005 at 10:30 PST
see: Calendar
--
Glen de Saint Géry
GNSO Secretariat - ICANN
gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org
http://gnso.icann.org
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Draft Agenda for Council meeting Tuesday 17 January 2006
Coordinated Universal Time UTC 19:00
(11am Los Angeles, 2pm Washington DC, 7pm London, 6am (next day) Melbourne )
Item 1: Approval of minutes of 2 Dec 2005 and 21 Dec 2005
Item 2: Update on new gTLD policy development process
- advise constituency representatives
Item 3: Update on WHOIS poloicy development
- preliminary report on purpose of WHOIS
- current work
Item 4: IETF draft on IDN issues
- discuss document authored by John Klensin and Patrik Fältström
- see http://www.iab.org/documents/drafts/draft-iab-idn-nextsteps-00.txt
Abstract:
This note describe issues raised by the deployment and use of
Internationalized Domain Names. It describes problems both at the
time of registration and those for use of those names for use in the
DNS. It recommends that IETF should update the IDN related RFCs and
a framework to be followed in doing so, as well as summarizing and
identifying some work that is required outside the IETF. In
particular, it proposes that some changes be investigated for the
IDNA standard and its supporting tables, based on experience gained
since those standards were completed.
Document status:
This document reviews the IDN landscape from an IETF perspective and
presents the recommendations and conclusions of an IAB-convened ad
hoc committee charged with reviewing IDN issues and the path forward
(See Section 6). Its recommendations are recommendations to the
IETF, or in a few cases to other bodies, for topics to be examined
and actions to be taken if those bodies, after their examinations,
consider those actions appropriate.
Neither the IAB nor the members of the ad hoc committee have yet
reached consensus that this document is ready for final publication.
However, the IAB concluded that it was appropriate to expose it, as a
working draft, for community comment and feedback. Such comments
should be sent to iab(a)iab.org (relevant material will be forwarded to
the IAB IDN Ad Hoc committee).
Item 5: Update on status of proposed .com agreement
Item 6: Next steps on policy issues related to proposed .com agreement
E.g
- policy for renewal of gtld agreements
- funding model policy (possible new policy)
- policy for capping fees that a registry can charge
- exclusions in agreements from future consensus polices or changes in consensus polices
Item 7: Any other business
Regards,
Bruce Tonkin
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Hello All,
I have been reviewing the funding provisions in the registry agreements.
I have checked the existing .com and .biz agreements.
If registrars don't approve being invoiced directly, then ICANN may
charge registry operators. But there is a fee cap as follows:
"The Total Registry-Level Fee Cap shall be US$ 5,500,000 for the fiscal
year ending June 30, 2002; shall increase by 15% each fiscal year
thereafter; and may be increased by a greater amount through the
establishment of Consensus Policies as set forth in Definition 1 and
Section 3 of this Agreement."
(From
http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/verisign/registry-agmt-com-25may01.
htm , Section II, 7 D )
The current .net agreement caps the fees to:
"The per-registrar component of the Variable Registry-Level Fee shall be
specified by ICANN in accordance with the budget adopted by the ICANN
Board of Directors for each fiscal year, but the sum of the
per-registrar fees calculated for all registrars shall not exceed the
total Per- Registrar Variable funding established pursuant to the
approved 2004-
2005 ICANN Budget" and a maximum transaction fee of 15 cents per year.
The proposed .com agreement would effectively result in an amount well
above the total cap in the current .com, .biz, .net agreements, and it
is permissible for the registry operator to pass on the ICANN
transaction fees to registrars.
Based on the current .com and .biz agreements, you could argue that
increasing the cap should be subject to a policy process related to
funding.
Regards,
Bruce Tonkin
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GNSO Council teleconf. revised draft minutes 21 December 2005
by GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Jan. 9, 2006
by GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Jan. 9, 2006
Jan. 9, 2006
[To: council[at]gnso.icann.org]
Dear Council Members,
Please find a revised draft minutes of the GNSO Council teleconference
on 21 December 2005.
Olof Nordling has been added to the list of attendees present at the
meeting.
Please let me know if there are other changes to be made.
Thank you very much.
Kind regards,
Glen
21 December 2005
Proposed agenda and related documents
List of attendees:
Philip Sheppard - Commercial & Business Users C.
Marilyn Cade - Commercial & Business Users C.
Grant Forsyth - Commercial & Business Users C
Greg Ruth - ISCPC
Antonio Harris - ISCPC
Tony Holmes - ISCPC - proxy to Tony Harris/Greg Ruth (if necessary)
Thomas Keller- Registrars
Ross Rader - Registrars
Bruce Tonkin - Registrars
Ken Stubbs - gTLD registries - absent - apologies - Cary Karp
June Seo - gTLD registries
Cary Karp - gTLD registries
Lucy Nichols - Intellectual Property Interests C
Ute Decker - Intellectual Property Interests C - absent - apologies -
proxy to Lucy Nichols
Kiyoshi Tsuru - Intellectual Property Interests C. - proxy to Lucy
Nichols (if necessary)
Robin Gross - NCUC.
Norbert Klein - NCUC.- absent - apologies - proxy to Mawaki Chango
Mawaki Chango - NCUC
Sophia Bekele - Nominating Committee appointee
Maureen Cubberley - Nominating Committee appointee - absent - apologies
- proxy to Ross Rader
Avri Doria - Nominating Committee appointee
17 Council Members
ICANN Staff
Olof Nordling - Manager, Policy Development Coordination
Maria Farrell - ICANN GNSO Policy Support Officer
Liz Williams - Senior Policy Counselor
Tina Dam - Chief gTLD Registry Liaison
Glen de Saint Géry - GNSO Secretariat
GNSO Council Liaisons
Suzanne Sene - GAC Liaison
Bret Fausett - ALAC Liaison
Michael Palage - ICANN Board member
Quorum present at 19 : 07 UTC.
MP3 recording
Bruce Tonkin and Philip Sheppard chaired this teleconference.
Approval of agenda
Bruce Tonkin welcomed the new councillors, Sophia Bekele Nominating
Committee Appointee, Mawaki Chango - NCUC representative and June Seo -
gTLD registries representative.
Bruce Tonkin handed the chair to Philip Sheppard.
Item 2: Election of GNSO Council chair for period 4 Jan 06 to 3 Dec 2006
- nominations close on Friday 16 Dec 2005
- election to be held during the meeting
Philip Sheppard stated that Bruce Tonkin, the only nominee at close of
nominations on Friday 16 December 2005, accepted his nomination by Lucy
Nichols, seconded Ken Stubbs, to be the GNSO Council chair for the
period 4 January 2006 to 3 December 2006.
Philip Sheppard proposed a roll call vote of affirmation to elect Bruce
Tonkin as GNSO Council chair for the period 4 January 2006 to 3 December
2006.
The motion carried. Unanimous vote of acclamation
25 votes in favour, one abstention Bruce Tonkin (2 votes) Ross Rader's
vote and proxy held for Maureen Cubberley were votes recorded on line
due to telephonic connectivity issues.
Decision 1: Bruce Tonkin elected as GNSO Council chair for the period 4
January 2006 to 3 December 2006.
Philip Sheppard handed the chair back to Bruce Tonkin.
Item 3: Next steps on new TLD policy development process
- public comment period opened on 6 December 2005
Bruce Tonkin stated that each constituency needed to identify a person
to collect input to the policy development process on new gTLDs and
notify the GNSO Secretariat accordingly.
In addition Council members should reflect on proactive means of
obtaining input from members of the communities not directly involved in
the GNSO and input from the Council.
It was important to gather input on the terms of reference to open
questions and then seek the commonalities.
Marilyn Cade referred to her proposal on the Council mailing list
setting out a process, previously used in task forces and public
meetings, where a request was posted for interested individuals,
organizations, (could be a constituency) to submit an outline, sign up
for a specific time to address their responses to a particular set of
questions, take clarifying questions, and have the material transcribed
and posted on the website. This allowed for input from people with
expertise in particular areas in contrast to the input from the public
comment process. The proposal further suggested 2 such events before the
end of January 2006 and an extension of the current public comment
period to the end of January 2006.
<Finally, I offer the following proposal for fellow Councilors to
consider regarding the gTLDS policy process: The Council should invite
all constituencies to prepare their statements for contribution, BUT in
ADDITION, and in parallel, other mechanism should be used to inform the
policy development process. I describe a recommendation below that I've
previously mentioned in less detail.
1) Given that we are losing about two weeks due to holiday, I propose
that Council formally announce an extension in the initial comment
process to extend it to the end of January. This would give more time to the
Constituency statements, and also allow the following process to take
place for more input into the policy development process.
2) I propose that Council direct the staff director, Olof Nordling, to
manage a process on behalf of Council that would be structured
consultation and input into the process. All of our constituencies and
the broader community could undoubtedly benefit from the opportunity to
hear from experts, rather than just gather opinions or make statements.
Thus, I would suggest that the following guidelines be followed [or some
modified version developed]
3) The Council should host two phone conferences with the following
structure/format.
a) Organizations, individuals, and interested parties should be invited
to make presentations related to the questions that are contained in the
ToR, and provide any other statements that they consider relevant.
20 minute slots would be reserved for anyone who submits a "white
paper/PowerPoint" to the Staff Director.
NOTE: This would NOT be a place for the Constituency Statements, since
those will come into the process anyway, but offers a way to get unique
contributions. For instance, outreach to the SSAC, to OECD, etc. might
be useful to suggest that they may want to make a "presentation".
b) the calls should be transcribed via a conference call transcription
service and the transcripts would be posted
c) all white papers or PowerPoint presentations would be made available
and posted
d) Do others think that there should also be 3 - 4 three minute slots at
the end of each of the conference calls for "open mike" statements from
those who don't bother to submit a white paper/PowerPoint?
I would suggest that the presentations be limited to 15 minutes and a 5
minute clarification q and a be allowed.
Given the time between here and Wellington, I would suggest that two
calls be held, broken into two segments of 2 hours each.
It is important to remember the constituencies and the ALAC will have
their own consultation process to undertake as well, and thus, if we can
do these calls in the early part of January, that would be most helpful.
Again, I am proposing that we also recognize that the PDP time frames do
not work, especially taking into account the holiday period and we
formally extend the time frame now for the preparation of the initial
submission of information to the Staff Manager.
I also think that Council needs to be very realistic about the need to
take extensive input; we may find that we need to have more than one
round of input and discussion of the inputs to the questions, for instance.
Finally, we need to discuss how best to establish a mechanism to have
consultation with the other SOs, and with the GAC and SSAC. As I recall,
that is part of our responsibility. We may want to schedule discussion
sessions of 1-2 hours in Wellington, for instance. >
There was general agreement among the Councillors for a call for papers
with clearly formulated expectations, moderated conference calls with a
web based forum, allowing people to identify, if they wished, to address
their responses, an acknowledgement that all requests for presentation
may not be possible to accommodate, but that all material would be
posted on the website for the public, read by the Councillors and
summarised by the staff who would produce a Staff Manager's report. The
Council as whole would undertake the work and would benefit from all the
input during the proposed face to face March meeting in Wellington.
Ross Rader proposed that agreement on details should be referred to the
planning committee.
Proposed time line:
31 January 2006
- extension for public comments on the Terms of Reference for new gTLDs
- constituency statements due and conference call
1st week February
- conference call
The Initial report should be considered as an evolving draft until
Wellington.
Suzanne Sene remarked that it would be difficult to produce a document
by a government organization even by the end of January 2006.
Bruce Tonkin, seconded by Philip Sheppard proposed a procedural motion:
Council agrees to extend the time for public comments on the Terms of
Reference for new gTLDs until 31 January 2006 in order to receive
substantive papers addressing the terms of reference on the policy
development process.
Council will also formally issue a "Call for Papers" and the potential
presentation of the papers as soon as a text for that call for papers
has been developed in the days following.
The motion carried unanimously by voice vote.
Decision 2:
Council agrees to extend the time for public comments on the Terms of
Reference for new gTLDs until 31 January 2006 in order to receive
substantive papers addressing the terms of reference on the policy
development process.
Council will also formally issue a "Call for Papers" and the potential
presentation of the papers as soon as a text for that call for papers
has been developed in the days following.
Bruce Tonkin noted that each constituency should be thinking about what
process the constituency should use to inform the constituency
statements such as, teleconferences and different ways within the
constituencies to get broad coverage. The constituencies were encouraged
to try methods that they have not used in the past to make sure the
statements were as broad and representative of all views as possible and
focused on substantive and reasoned comments on the issue areas in the
Terms of Reference on new gTLDs.
.Bruce Tonkin, seconded by Philip Sheppard proposed a procedural motion:
The due date for constituency statements be extended until 31 January 2006.
The motion carried unanimously by voice vote.
Decision 3: The due date for constituency statements be extended until
31 January 2006.
Action Item: Each constituency needs to identify a person to collect
input to the policy development process on new gTLDs and notify the GNSO
Secretariat accordingly.
Item 4: Internationalized Domain Names (IDN) issues report
Olof Nordling stated that Maria Farrell was the person identified to
focus on developing the IDN Issues Report.
Tina Dam reported that the version 2.0 of the IDN Guidelines approved in
November 2005, were discussed in Vancouver and the working group would
reconvene to consider the Vancouver input and whether there should be
further revisions to the IDN Guidelines. In parallel, the Best Current
Practice track for the IDN Guidelines would move forward and there would
be opportunity for public input. The working group and the President's
Advisory Committee would provide feedback and updates to the ICANN Board.
The community had made enquiries about the functionality of the IANA
registry. Based on the previous IDN committee consultations, a briefing
paper had been developed for the President's Advisory Committee where
positive changes had been recommended.
Initial discussions have taken place amongst technical experts regarding
IDNs at the top level and the relation to the Issues Report requested by
the GNSO council in Vancouver. The plan is to move forward the
experiment on IDNs at the top level, but a framework is needed around
how it would happen and what issues should be solved.
The experiment could possibly show whether d name or a records in the
root, or neither would be a good technical solution. The evaluation of
the report was as important as the initial framework and the result
would feed back into the ccNSO, GNSO and the GAC policy processes. There
was no current timeline for the Issues Report as it was to some extent
dependent on the experiment. In the mean time, while waiting for the
technical results, Tina suggested identifying initial issues and start
work on process.
Cary Karp commented that currently, before the policy development
process started the suitability of candidate technologies for that
purpose were being tested and referred to the recent Internet
Architectural Board (IAB) report "Review and Recommendations for
Internationalized Domain Names".
Bruce Tonkin, supported by most of the councillors, proposed that staff
should be encouraged to start identifying and documenting policy
questions and issues related to IDNs.
Bruce Tonkin proposed further discussion on IDNs as an agenda item on
the next council call, 17 January 2006, and suggested inviting the
authors, John Klensin and Patrick Falstrom, of the "Review and
Recommendations for Internationalized Domain Names" to participate in
the discussion.
Item 5: Update on initial planning for Wellington meeting
The Secretariat read out the email from Diane Schroeder with the broad
outline of the meeting schedule for Wellington New Zealand.
31 March, Friday Board Meeting
30 March, Thursday Public Forum (am)
29 March, Wednesday GNSO & CCNSO Council meetings & Public Forum (pm)
28 March, Tuesday Workshops, GAC, GNSO Public Forum - potential
Board/GNSO Council dinner
27 March, Monday Constituency Day, CCNSO & GAC
26 March, Sunday GAC, GNSO Council Prep
25 March, Saturday GAC, GNSO Council Prep
Item 6 Any other business
a. Follow up on .com settlement GNSO resolution
Bruce Tonkin commented that as GNSO Council chair he would formally send
the resolution of 2 December 2005 to Dr. Vint Cerf, ICANN Board chair.
Bruce Tonkin declared the GNSO meeting closed and thanked everybody for
participating.
The meeting ended: 20:40 UTC.
Next GNSO Council teleconference 17 January 2006 at 19:00 UTC
see: Calendar
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Glen de Saint Géry
GNSO Secretariat - ICANN
gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org
http://gnso.icann.org
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GNSO Council Draft minutes - revised - Vancouver meeting 28 Nov. 2005
by GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Jan. 9, 2006
by GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Jan. 9, 2006
Jan. 9, 2006
[To: council[at]gnso.icann.org]
Dear Council Members,
Please find a further revised draft minutes of the GNSO Council meeting
held in Vancouver on 28 November 2005.
the end of the sentence: "situations as they arise." has been added to
item 7:
Consensus policy recommendation from the WHOIS task force
Please let me know if there are other changes to be made.
Thank you very much.
Kind regards,
Glen
28 November 2005
Proposed agenda and related documents
List of attendees:
Philip Sheppard - Commercial & Business Users C.
Marilyn Cade - Commercial & Business Users C.
Grant Forsyth - Commercial & Business Users C - remote participation
Greg Ruth - ISCPC - absent - apologies - proxy to Tony Holmes
Antonio Harris - ISCPC - proxy to Tony Holmes (joined meeting after roll
call)
Tony Holmes - ISCPC
Thomas Keller- Registrars
Ross Rader - Registrars (joined meeting after roll call)
Bruce Tonkin - Registrars
Ken Stubbs - gTLD registries
Philip Colebrook - gTLD registries - remote participation
Cary Karp - gTLD registries
Lucy Nichols - Intellectual Property Interests C - absent - apologies -
proxy to Niklas Lagergren
Niklas Lagergren - Intellectual Property Interests C
Kiyoshi Tsuru - Intellectual Property Interests C. - absent - apologies
- proxy to Niklas Lagergren
Robin Gross - Non Commercial Users C.- remote participation
Norbert Klein - Non Commercial Users C.
Alick Wilson - Nominating Committee appointee - remote participation
Maureen Cubberley - Nominating Committee appointee
Avri Doria - Nominating Committee appointee
17 Council Members
ICANN Staff
Olof Nordling - Manager, Policy Development Coordination - absent -
apologies
Maria Farrell - ICANN GNSO Policy Support Officer
Liz Williams - Senior Policy Counselor
Tina Dam - Chief gTLD Registry Liaison
Diane Schroeder - General Manager, Conferences, Administration & Finance
Glen de Saint Géry - GNSO Secretariat
GNSO Council Liaisons
Suzanne Sene - GAC Liaison - absent - apologies
Bret Fausett - acting ALAC Liaison - absent - apologies
Michael Palage - ICANN Board member - absent - apologies
Quorum present at 9: 12 PST.
Two MP3 recordings of the second part of the meeting (not very clear)
http://gnso-audio.icann.org/GNSO-Council20051122.mp3
http://gnso-audio.icann.org/GNSO2-20051122;MP3.mp3
Bruce Tonkin and Philip Sheppard chaired this teleconference.
Approval of Agenda
Diane Schroeder addressed the meeting informing the Council of an
important time modification to the schedule for the GNSO Public Forum
and GNSO Council meeting on Friday 2 December 2005 in Vancouver.
Marilyn Cade proposed ending the meeting early to prepare for the joint
meeting with the ICANN Board in the afternoon.
Ken Stubbs, seconded by Marilyn Cade proposed Philip Sheppard as chair
for the election process.
Motion carried unanimously
Decision 1: Philip Sheppard chaired the GNSO Council meeting for the
election process.
Item 3: Election of GNSO Council chair
- Bruce Tonkin has been nominated and seconded
- term from 18 Nov 2005 until one month after 2005 AGM (4 Jan 2006)
Philip Sheppard proposed:
Whereas Bruce Tonkin had been nominated by Ken Stubbs and seconded by
Ross Rader as GNSO Council chair for the period from 18 November 2005
until one month after 2005 AGM (4 January 2006)
Recommended that Bruce Tonkin be elected as GNSO Council chair for the
period 18 November 2005 until one month after the 2005 ICANN Annual
General Meeting (4 January 2006).
Philip Sheppard called for a formal roll call vote.
The motion carried unanimously.
No vote was recorded for Tony Harris who joined the meeting late.
Decision 2: Bruce Tonkin was elected as GNSO Council chair for the
period 18 November 2005 until one month after the 2005 ICANN Annual
General Meeting (4 January 2006).
Philip Sheppard formally handed the chair to Bruce Tonkin.
Item 4: Approval of minutes
- GNSO Council teleconference - 13 October 2005
- GNSO Council teleconference - 20 October 2005
Maureen Cubberley moved the adoption of the minutes.
The motion carried. Niklas Lagergren abstained
Decision 3: The GNSO Council minutes of 13 October 2005 and 20 October
2005 were adopted.
Item 5: Evaluation of new gtlds (.biz, .info etc as well as .travel,
.jobs. .mobi etc)
- update on questions to structure the evaluation
Olof Nordling commented that the document elaborated the need for
further evaluation of recently introduced gTLDs and proposed an approach
for this, focused to inform ongoing work on policy aspects regarding the
introduction of new gTLDs.
Discussions on an evaluation of the ongoing sTLD round were under way
with the consultant that performed the main evaluation of the
“proof-of-concept” round for ICANN. It was recommended that the GNSO
Council stated that questions relating to selection criteria, allocation
methods and contractual conditions were of particular relevance in this
context. The document proposed a draft list of questions to this end.
The report was designed to give the GNSO Council the information
necessary to discuss and decide on ways to proceed with additional
evaluation aspects of assigned new TLDs.
Maureen Cubberley referred to page 8 of the report, 'consideration for
additional review', and commented that there was a need for emphasis on
the process of decision making that informed the evaluation. It was
essential to look at the content of the recent Request for Proposals
(RFP) for the sponsored round of gTLDs .
Bruce Tonkin pointed out that the new gTLD process was under discussion,
and that the evaluation was driven by a process several years ago. There
were two issues, one, how to improve the process and the second, should
new gTLDs be introduced.
Marilyn Cade noted from the Business Constituency’s perspective, that
clear guidance was given for the recent round of gTLDs to be sponsored.
Sponsored was discussed in depth yet there appeared to be a limited
match in the case of some of the applicants. Further guidance and
criteria on ‘sponsored’was required.
Maureen Cubberley commented that ambiguities in the RFP led to the issue.
Bruce Tonkin proposed that the project manager (Miriam Sapiro) produce a
‘lessons learnt’ paper, a quick follow up of the report in terms of the
outcome, which should not be wider but intended as input to a subsequent
wider process and that an "independent external review" be carried out
by someone different from the project manager.
ACTION
Council was encouraged to examine the list of questions and provide
further questions to Miriam Sapiro.
Further it was suggested that Miriam Sapiro do a presentation at the
GNSO Public Forum on Friday 2 December 2005.
Item 6: Policy Development Process for new gtlds
- discuss issues report
- decide whether to commence a PDP
Bruce Tonkin referred to the ICANN Bylaws.
Section 2. Creation of the Issue Report
Within fifteen (15) calendar days after receiving either (i) an
instruction from the Board; (ii) a properly supported motion from a
Council member; or (iii) a properly supported motion from an Advisory
Committee, the Staff Manager will create a report (an "Issue Report").
Each Issue Report shall contain at least the following:
Section 2. Creation of the Issue Report had been completed
Section 2 e. A recommendation from the Staff Manager as to whether the
Council should initiate the PDP for this issue (the "Staff
Recommendation"). Each Staff Recommendation shall include the opinion of
the ICANN General Counsel regarding whether the issue proposed to
initiate the PDP is properly within the scope of the ICANN policy
process and within the scope of the GNSO. In determining whether the
issue is properly within the scope of the ICANN policy process, the
General Counsel shall examine whether such issue:
The staff manager, Olof Nordling had recommended that a PDP be initiated.
Bruce Tonkin proposed that at the current meeting the Council vote to
commence a PDP.
Marilyn Cade, seconded by Tom Keller proposed:
Whereas, the GNSO Council recognises that the review of the GNSO Council
held in 2004 recommended that the PDP timelines be reviewed.
The GNSO votes to initiate the PDP on new gTLDs. The GNSO will develop a
work program in consultation with the ICANN staff and ICANN board that
sets out a timeframe for work
The vote was by show of hands.
The motion carried unanimously. No abstentions
Decision 4:
Whereas, the GNSO Council recognises that the review of the GNSO Council
held in 2004 recommended that the PDP timelines be reviewed.
The GNSO votes to initiate the PDP on new gTLDs. The GNSO will develop a
work program in consultation with the ICANN staff and ICANN board that
sets out a timeframe for work
Item 7: WHOIS: Final task force report on a policy recommendation and
advice on a procedure for handling conflicts between a
registrar/registry's legal obligations under privacy laws and their
contractual obligations to ICANN
- vote on final recommendation as completed by the WHOIS task force on
19 Oct
Bruce Tonkin noted that the "advice" as set forth was not consensus policy.
Niklas Lagergren stated that the task force Final Report was supported
unanimously by the WHOIS task force.
Ross Rader, a member of the task force raised a procedural question that
after the task force had already voted on the final report, it should be
made precise that reference was to the gTLD WHOIS service and did not
refer to the protocol, the RIR WHOIS service or the country code WHOIS
service.
Tom Keller seconded by Niklas Lagergren proposed that:
The GNSO votes in favour of the following consensus policy
recommendation from the WHOIS task force
CONSENSUS POLICY RECOMMENDATION
In order to facilitate reconciliation of any conflicts between
local/national mandatory privacy laws or regulations and applicable
provisions of the ICANN contract regarding the collection, display and
distribution of personal data via the gTLD Whois service, ICANN should:
Develop and publicly document a procedure for dealing with the situation
in which a registrar or registry can credibly demonstrate that it is
legally prevented by local/national privacy laws or regulations from
fully complying with applicable provisions of its ICANN contract
regarding the collection, display and distribution of personal data via
the gTLD WHOIS service.
Create goals for the procedure which include:
Ensuring that ICANN staff is informed of a conflict at the earliest
appropriate juncture;
Resolving the conflict, if possible, in a manner conducive to ICANN's
Mission, applicable Core Values and the stability and uniformity of the
Whois system;
Providing a mechanism for the recognition, if appropriate, in
circumstances where the conflict cannot be otherwise resolved, of an
exception to contractual obligations to those registries/registrars to
which the specific conflict applies with regard to collection, display
and distribution of personally identifiable data via the gTLD WHOIS
service; and
Preserving sufficient flexibility for ICANN staff to respond to
particular factual situations as they arise.
The GNSO recommends the ICANN staff consider the advice given in the
task force report as to a recommended procedure.
Bruce Tonkin called for formal roll call vote.
The motion carried.
26 Votes in support
Abstention from Avri Doria:
Reason: Does not believe goes far enough in protecting privacy
Decision 5
The GNSO votes in favour of the following consensus policy
recommendation from the WHOIS task force
CONSENSUS POLICY RECOMMENDATION
In order to facilitate reconciliation of any conflicts between
local/national mandatory privacy laws or regulations and applicable
provisions of the ICANN contract regarding the collection, display and
distribution of personal data via the gTLD WHOIS service, ICANN should:
Develop and publicly document a procedure for dealing with the situation
in which a registrar or registry can credibly demonstrate that it is
legally prevented by local/national privacy laws or regulations from
fully complying with applicable provisions of its ICANN contract
regarding the collection, display and distribution of personal data via
the gTLD WHOIS service.
Create goals for the procedure which include:
Ensuring that ICANN staff is informed of a conflict at the earliest
appropriate juncture;
Resolving the conflict, if possible, in a manner conducive to ICANN's
Mission, applicable Core Values and the stability and uniformity of the
Whois system;
Providing a mechanism for the recognition, if appropriate, in
circumstances where the conflict cannot be otherwise resolved, of an
exception to contractual obligations to those registries/registrars to
which the specific conflict applies with regard to collection, display
and distribution of personally identifiable data via the gTLD WHOIS
service; and
Preserving sufficient flexibility for ICANN staff to respond to
particular factual situations as they arise.
The GNSO recommends the ICANN staff consider the advice given in the
task force report as to a recommended procedure.
Item 8: Policy development for IDNs
- discuss background document
- decide whether to formally request an issues report
section 1 - Raising an Issue
section 2 - Creation of the Issue Report
Bruce Tonkin referred to the background document which listed the
existing resolutions, workshops, and information on the President’s
Advisory Committee, of which Cary Karp was a member, and suggested that
the GNSO request the staff to produce an issues report on the policy
issues using the document as a basis.
Bruce added that there should be clarity for the community what the
policy aspects for the GNSO were.
Cary Karp commented that attention should not only be to constrain 2nd
level of the DNS, the top level and the 3rd and 4th level of the DNS
should also be considered. If control was invoked as a term of
delegation the domain space could not be policed, which means that
anything not permitted should be folded into the underlying possible
standards. The first generation would be a normative framework that
expected anything to be done but allowed policy constraint to guide.
Cary further clarified that internationalization meant changing the
system to make it useable in the polyglot world we live in while making
it work with Cambodia, for example, is localization. An Arabic version
of.com is a localization. The concern is the translated versions of the
gtld labels.
Discussion followed on the motion to be drafted. Due to the complexity
of the topic and in order for constituency discussion, Bruce Tonkin
proposed tabling the following motion to be voted on at the GNSO Council
meeting on Friday 2 December 2005:
Tabled motion:
WHEREAS, the GNSO Council recognises that one of the goals of ICANN to
increase the internationalisation of the domain name space.
WHEREAS, the GNSO Council wishes to liaise closely with the ccNSO with
respect to the issue of localised IDN equivalents of existing gTLDs and
ccTLDs, and for the purpose of jointly requesting an issues report.
The GNSO Council requests that the staff produce an issues report on the
policy issues associated with creating internationalised equivalents of
existing gTLDs, and second level domains within existing gTLDs.
The GNSO also requests that the staff liaise with the ccNSO to ensure
that the policy issues associated with internationalised versions of the
existing ccTLDs can also be considered.
Bruce Tonkin proposed revisiting the process of the PDP on new gTLDs.
and outlined the proposed work:
January to June
- PDP on New gTLDs
- PDP on IDNs
- WHOIS task force - considered to drain a lot of resources
Bruce Tonkin noted that with respect to issues such as WHOIS that will
likely need to evolve over several years, it may be more efficient to
spend a limited time on the issue each year, rather than tie up GNSO
community and staff resources for the whole year, e.g. each year
concentrate 3 months on an issue and spend 2 days face to face, then
leave it alone and pick it up again.
There was general agreement on:
- scheduling new gTLDs work program with significant face to face
interaction time.
- using new technologies, such as wikis and blogs to encourage community
participation
- setting up a group outside Council with expertise to support running a
wiki on the new gTLD issues for the community beyond the council.
- creating a structured mechanism to gather data
Bruce Tonkin recommended that the Council as a whole deal with the new
gTLD PDP using mailing lists, wiki, and a 2 day face to face meeting.
Each new effort should take into account the GNSO Council review
recommendations looking at what has gone before and what can be improved.
The proposed IDN PDP would be managed by a task force of experts and the
constituencies should work on identifying new people with particular skills.
Agenda Item deferred:
Item 8: WHOIS task force
- progress on purpose and definitions of contacts
Bruce Tonkin declared the GNSO meeting closed and thanked everybody for
participating.
The meeting ended: 11: 45 PST.
Next GNSO Council meeting in Vancouver, Friday 2 December 2005 at 10:30 PST
see: Calendar
--
Glen de Saint Géry
GNSO Secretariat - ICANN
gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org
http://gnso.icann.org
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RE: Council report required for the Board on the recently approved WHOIS recommendation
by Bruce Tonkin Jan. 9, 2006
by Bruce Tonkin Jan. 9, 2006
Jan. 9, 2006
Hello Olof,
>
> As I read it, the judgment in what way Art 3.6.1 (apologies
> for switching the numbers around in my previous mail) is
> applicable to a proposal should be made before it is
> submitted to the Board - not by the Board (otherwise there is
> a procedural loop). Our assessment was that this proposal did
> not "substantially affect the operation of the Internet or
> third parties, including the imposition of any fees or
> charges", meaning that the posting requirements etc in the
> sub-paragraphs are not applicable.
Agreed.
>
> There are no other requirements for postings prior to Board
> treatment, really. As to the Board report, a 21 day posting
> is not required as such and would potentially be in conflict
> with Annex A, article 13:
> "13. Board Vote
> a. The Board will meet to discuss the GNSO Council
> recommendation as soon as feasible after receipt of the Board
> Report from the Staff Manager."
I don't think that the two concepts are directly in conflict. I think
release of a key document 21 days prior to the Board meeting has two
benefits - provides time for the Board to properly read the document,
and ensures that the Board meets its transparency requirements of
ensuring that the community has amply time to see what issues are before
the Board. I don't see it as a "requirement", but do see it as a
reasonable objective from the point of view of best practice.
Regards,
Bruce Tonkin
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Jan. 9, 2006
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Tonkin
Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2005 4:01 PM
Subject: Motion from GNSO Council regarding the proposed .com agreement
To: Chair, ICANN Board
From: Chair, GNSO Council
Hello Vint,
Please pass onto the Board the following motion passed by the GNSO
Council in its meeting in Vancouver on Friday 2 Dec 2005.
"Whereas the GNSO constituencies participated in a review of the
proposed settlement and have detailed statements on issues of concern;
Whereas the GNSO Council supports the conclusion of the litigation
between ICANN and Verisign;
Whereas the GNSO Council does not support all articles within this
proposed settlement;
Whereas the GNSO Council believes that there are broader questions
raised in the proposed settlement that need to be first addressed by the
GNSO;
The GNSO Council resolves:
That the ICANN Board should postpone adoption of the proposed settlement
while the Council fully investigates the policy issues raised by the
proposed changes."
Regards,
Bruce Tonkin
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GNSO Council draft minutes Vancouver meeting 2 December 2005
by GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Jan. 8, 2006
by GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Jan. 8, 2006
Jan. 8, 2006
[To: council[at]gnso.icann.org]
Dear Council Members,
Please find the draft minutes of the GNSO Council Vancouver meeting on 2
December 2005 below in plain text.
Please let me know whether you would like me to make any changes.
Thank you very much.
Kind regards,
Glen
2 December 2005
Proposed agenda and related documents
List of attendees:
Philip Sheppard - Commercial & Business Users C. -( proxy to Marilyn Cade)
Marilyn Cade - Commercial & Business Users C.
Grant Forsyth - Commercial & Business Users C - remote participation
Greg Ruth - ISCPC
Antonio Harris - ISCPC
Tony Holmes - ISCPC
Thomas Keller- Registrars
Ross Rader - Registrars
Bruce Tonkin - Registrars
Ken Stubbs - gTLD registries
June Soe - gTLD registries - absent - apologies - proxy to Ken Stubbs
Cary Karp - gTLD registries
Lucy Nichols - Intellectual Property Interests C
Niklas Lagergren - Intellectual Property Interests C
Kiyoshi Tsuru - Intellectual Property Interests C. - absent - apologies
- proxy to Niklas Lagergren
Robin Gross - Non Commercial Users C.
Norbert Klein - Non Commercial Users C.
Mawaki Chango - Non Commercial Users C. - absent - apologies - proxy to
Robin Gross
Alick Wilson - Nominating Committee appointee - remote participation
Maureen Cubberley - Nominating Committee appointee
Avri Doria - Nominating Committee appointee
18 Council Members
ICANN Staff
Olof Nordling - Manager, Policy Development Coordination
Maria Farrell - ICANN GNSO Policy Support Officer
Liz Williams - Senior Policy Counselor
Tina Dam - Chief gTLD Registry Liaison
Glen de Saint Géry - GNSO Secretariat
GNSO Council Liaisons
Suzanne Sene - GAC Liaison - absent - apologies
Bret Fausett - acting ALAC Liaison
Michael Palage - ICANN Board member
Quorum present at 11: 15 PST.
Real Time Captioning
Bruce Tonkin and Philip Sheppard chaired this meeting
Item 1: Election of GNSO Council chair for period 4 Jan 06 to 3 Dec 2006
- initiate formal call for nominations
Bruce Tonkin noted that Council needed to elect a chair for the period
4 January 2006 to 3 December 2006.
Action: GNSO Secretariat, following the meeting, initiated a call for
nominations.
Item 2: Terms of reference for new TLDs
(staff recommendation from issues report)
1. Should new top level domain names be introduced?
a. Given the information provided here and any other relevant
information available to the GNSO, the GNSO should assess whether there
is sufficient support within the Internet community to enable the
introduction of new top level domains. If this is the case the following
additional terms of reference are applicable.
2. Selection Criteria for New Top Level Domains
a. Using the existing selection criteria from previous top level domain
application processes and relevant criteria in registry services
re-allocations, develop modified or new criteria which specifically
address ICANN's goals of expanding the use and usability of the
Internet. In particular, examine ways in which the allocation of new top
level domains can meet demands for broader use of the Internet in
developing countries.
b. Examine whether preferential selection criteria could be developed
which would encourage new and innovative ways of addressing the needs of
Internet users.
c. Examine whether distinctions between restricted, unrestricted,
sponsored and unsponsored top level domains are necessary and how the
choice of distinctions meets the interests of relevant stakeholders.
d. Examine whether additional criteria need to be developed which
address ICANN's goals of ensuring the security and stability of the
Internet.
e. Examine whether additional criteria can be developed to normalize and
simplify the administrative process of selecting and implementing new
top level domains.
3. Allocation Methods for New Top Level Domains
a. Using the experience gained in previous rounds of top level domain
name application processes, develop modified or new criteria which
simplify and standardize the allocation methods for selecting new top
level domain names.
b. Examine the full range of allocation methods including auctions,
ballots and comparative evaluation processes to determine the most
predictable and stable method of implementing additions to the Internet
root.
c. Examine how allocation methods could be used to achieve ICANN's goals
of fostering competition in domain name registration services and
encouraging a diverse range of registry services providers.
4. Contractual Conditions for New Top Level Domains
a. Using the experience of previous rounds of top level domain name
application processes and the recent amendments to registry services
agreements, develop modified or new contractual criteria which are
publicly available prior to any application rounds.
b. Examine whether additional contractual conditions are necessary to
improve ICANN's contractual compliance regime to provide predictability
and security of registry services.
c. Examine whether a registry services code of conduct, in addition to
contractual conditions, would improve a compliance regime which is
easily understandable and recognizes differences in approaches to
offering registry services whilst, at the same time, ensuring the
stability and security of the Internet.
Bruce Tonkin stated that at the GNSO Council meeting on 28 November 2005
in Vancouver the council had agreed to initiate policy in this area.
"Whereas, the GNSO Council recognises that the review of the GNSO
Council held in 2004 recommended that the PDP timelines be reviewed.
The GNSO votes to initiate the PDP on new gTLDs. The GNSO will develop a
work program in consultation with the ICANN staff and ICANN board that
sets out a timeframe for work"
The terms of reference for new gTLDs would benefit from the input
received in the GNSO public forum and the constituency meetings.
Discussions and modifications focused on making the terms of reference
enabling without too much detail which could impede exercising judgment
during the process, taking into account the whole picture, trying to
accelerate the process and being mindful of creating policy that would
guide contracts.
Ross Rader, seconded by Avri Doria and Marilyn Cade proposed the
modified "Terms of Reference for New gTLDs"
1. Should new generic top level domain names be introduced?
a. Given the information provided here and any other relevant
information available to the GNSO, the GNSO should assess whether there
is sufficient support within the Internet community to enable the
introduction of new top level domains. If this is the case the following
additional terms of reference are applicable.
2. Selection Criteria for New Top Level Domains
a. Taking into account the existing selection criteria from previous top
level domain application processes and relevant criteria in registry
services re-allocations, develop modified or new criteria which
specifically address ICANN's goals of expanding the use and usability of
the Internet. In particular, examine ways in which the allocation of new
top level domains can meet demands for broader use of the Internet in
developing countries.
b. Examine whether preferential selection criteria (e.g. sponsored)
could be developed which would encourage new and innovative ways of
addressing the needs of Internet users.
c. Examine whether additional criteria need to be developed which
address ICANN's goals of ensuring the security and stability of the
Internet.
3. Allocation Methods for New Top Level Domains
a. Using the experience gained in previous rounds, develop allocation
methods for selecting new top level domain names.
b. Examine the full range of allocation methods including auctions,
ballots, first-come first-served and comparative evaluation to determine
the methods of allocation that best enhance user choice while not
compromising predictability and stability.
c. Examine how allocation methods could be used to achieve ICANN's goals
of fostering competition in domain name registration services and
encouraging a diverse range of registry services providers.
4. Policy to Guide Contractual Conditions for New Top Level Domains
a. Using the experience of previous rounds of top level domain name
application processes and the recent amendments to registry services
agreements, develop policies to guide the contractual criteria which are
publicly available prior to any application rounds.
b. Determine what policies are necessary to provide security and
stability of registry services.
c. Determine appropriate policies to guide a contractual compliance
programme for registry services.
The motion was unanimously carried by show of hands. 27 votes in favour
(Marilyn Cade voted Philip Sheppard's proxy in favour, Philip being
temporarily absent).
Decision: 1
"Terms of Reference for New gTLDs"
1. Should new generic top level domain names be introduced?
a. Given the information provided here and any other relevant
information available to the GNSO, the GNSO should assess whether there
is sufficient support within the Internet community to enable the
introduction of new top level domains. If this is the case the following
additional terms of reference are applicable.
2. Selection Criteria for New Top Level Domains
a. Taking into account the existing selection criteria from previous top
level domain application processes and relevant criteria in registry
services re-allocations, develop modified or new criteria which
specifically address ICANN's goals of expanding the use and usability of
the Internet. In particular, examine ways in which the allocation of new
top level domains can meet demands for broader use of the Internet in
developing countries.
b. Examine whether preferential selection criteria (e.g. sponsored)
could be developed which would encourage new and innovative ways of
addressing the needs of Internet users.
c. Examine whether additional criteria need to be developed which
address ICANN's goals of ensuring the security and stability of the
Internet.
3. Allocation Methods for New Top Level Domains
a. Using the experience gained in previous rounds, develop allocation
methods for selecting new top level domain names.
b. Examine the full range of allocation methods including auctions,
ballots, first-come first-served and comparative evaluation to determine
the methods of allocation that best enhance user choice while not
compromising predictability and stability.
c. Examine how allocation methods could be used to achieve ICANN's goals
of fostering competition in domain name registration services and
encouraging a diverse range of registry services providers.
4. Policy to Guide Contractual Conditions for New Top Level Domains
a. Using the experience of previous rounds of top level domain name
application processes and the recent amendments to registry services
agreements, develop policies to guide the contractual criteria which are
publicly available prior to any application rounds.
b. Determine what policies are necessary to provide security and
stability of registry services.
c. Determine appropriate policies to guide a contractual compliance
programme for registry services.
Marilyn Cade, seconded by Ross Rader proposed a procedural motion:
that the policy development process on the "Terms of Reference for new
gTLDs" be managed by the GNSO Council as a committee of the whole
according to the provision made in the ICANN bylaws, section 8,
a. If the Council decides not to convene a task force, the Council will
request that, within ten (10) calendar days thereafter, each
constituency appoint a representative to solicit the constituency's
views on the issue. Each such representative shall be asked to submit a
Constituency Statement to the Staff Manager within thirty-five (35)
calendar days after initiation of the PDP.
b. The Council may also pursue other options that it deems appropriate
to assist in the PDP, including appointing a particular individual or
organization to gather information on the issue or scheduling meetings
for deliberation or briefing. All such information shall be submitted to
the Staff Manager within thirty-five (35) calendar days after initiation
of the PDP.
c. The Staff Manager will take all Constituency Statements, Public
Comment Statements, and other information and compile (and post on the
Comment Site) an Initial Report within fifty (50) calendar days after
initiation of the PDP. Thereafter, the PDP shall follow the provisions
of Item 9 below in creating a Final Report.
The motion carried unanimously by voice vote and show of hands.
Decision 2:
That the policy development process on the "Terms of Reference for new
gTLDs" be managed by the GNSO Council as a committee of the whole
according to the provision made in the ICANN bylaws, section 8,
a. If the Council decides not to convene a task force, the Council will
request that, within ten (10) calendar days thereafter, each
constituency appoint a representative to solicit the constituency's
views on the issue. Each such representative shall be asked to submit a
Constituency Statement to the Staff Manager within thirty-five (35)
calendar days after initiation of the PDP.
b. The Council may also pursue other options that it deems appropriate
to assist in the PDP, including appointing a particular individual or
organization to gather information on the issue or scheduling meetings
for deliberation or briefing. All such information shall be submitted to
the Staff Manager within thirty-five (35) calendar days after initiation
of the PDP.
c. The Staff Manager will take all Constituency Statements, Public
Comment Statements, and other information and compile (and post on the
Comment Site) an Initial Report within fifty (50) calendar days after
initiation of the PDP. Thereafter, the PDP shall follow the provisions
of Item 9 below in creating a Final Report
Ross Rader, seconded by Marilyn Cade proposed a procedural motion:
To request ICANN staff to assist the Council to arrange two full meeting
days before the meeting in Wellington and before the meeting in Morocco
on the policy development process on new gTLDs.
The motion carried unanimously by voice vote and show of hands.
Decision 3:
To request ICANN staff to assist the Council to arrange two full meeting
days before the meeting in Wellington and before the meeting in Morocco
on the policy development process on new gTLDs.
Marilyn Cade noted for the record that the council had acknowledged that
there was a problem in the policy development process time line,
documented in section 5 of the GNSO Council evaluation. and a pending
work item which Council had not yet addressed.
In view of this Council should acknowledge that an extended working time
line was required, establish a realistic work expectation and advise the
ICANN Board that the Council would be seeking an exception to the bylaws.
It was clarified that the Council would be working as a task force in a
policy development process and that the output of the days will be the
development made on the working drafts as opposed to a full minuted GNSO
Council session.
Item 3: Issues report on Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)
Proposed motion:
WHEREAS, the GNSO Council recognises that one of the goals of ICANN is
to increase the internationalisation of the domain name space.
WHEREAS, the GNSO Council wishes to liaise closely with the ccNSO with
respect to the issue of localised IDN equivalents of existing gTLDs and
ccTLDs, and for the purpose of jointly requesting an issues report
The GNSO Council requests that the staff produce an issues report on the
policy issues associated with creating internationalised equivalents of
existing gTLDs, and second level domains within existing gTLDs.
The GNSO also requests that the staff liaise with the ccNSO to ensure
that the policy issues associated with internationalised versions of the
existing ccTLDs can also be considered.
Bruce Tonkin commented that the motion arose from discussions over the
past few
months where a strong desire was expressed by both country code managers
and
operators of generic top-level domains to be able to support and
continue to support the internationalization of the domain name space.
The Council, as the policy body, with the policy development process
mechanism for making recommendations to the ICANN Board, considered it
important to start identifying the policy
issues as early as possible. Appropriate decisions as to the next steps
can be made with the issues clearly identified in an issues report.
One of the outcomes of the Internationalized Domain Name workshop on 30
November 2005 wasthe desire to have IDNs in the top level.
International domain names were recognized as one of ICANN's goals and
it was important to liaise and interact with the ccNSO to deal with the
topic.
Dialogue and interaction with all other fora, in particular with the
President's Advisory
Committee which was a point of interaction with those communities
external to the ICANN process, was strongly encouraged.
The complexity of the issue and the time lines set out in the ICANN
bylaws were specifically acknowledged in order to avoid unrealistic
timelines and expectations
Lucy Nichols, seconded by Tom Keller proposed the following motion:
WHEREAS, the GNSO Council recognises that one of the goals of ICANN is to
increase the internationalisation of the domain name space;
WHEREAS, the GNSO Council wishes to liaise closely with the ccNSO with
respect to internationalization of the domain name space, and for the
purpose of jointly requesting an issues report;
WHEREAS the GNSO Council recognizes and wishes to inform and be informed by
the technical efforts currently under way in other organizations which are
represented on the President's Advisory Committee on IDNs;
WHEREAS the GNSO Council acknowledges the timelines in the ICANN bylaws, and
recognizes the recommendation from the GNSO Council review to revise those
timelines, and given the complexity of this issue, the GNSO Council will
develop an appropriate work plan that meets the needs of the ICANN
community.
The GNSO Council requests an Issues Report on the policy issues associated
with creating internationalised equivalents of existing gTLDs, and second
level domains within existing gTLDs.
The GNSO Council recommends that the staff engage appropriate expert
resources to assist in the preparation of the Issues Report.
The GNSO also requests that the staff liaise with the ccNSO to ensure that
the policy issues associated with internationalised versions of the existing
ccTLDs can also be considered.
Council voted by show of hands.
The motion carried with 25 votes in favour and 1 abstention which
counted for 2 votes.
.
Ross Rader abstained from voting and commented that he supported the
intent of the motion and the outcomes that would arise from it, but the
reason for abstaining from the vote was a philosophical problem, he was
uncomfortable with explicitly passing a motion that urged Council to
ignore the bylaws.
Decision 4:
WHEREAS, the GNSO Council recognises that one of the goals of ICANN is to
increase the internationalisation of the domain name space;
WHEREAS, the GNSO Council wishes to liaise closely with the ccNSO with
respect to internationalization of the domain name space, and for the
purpose of jointly requesting an issues report;
WHEREAS the GNSO Council recognizes and wishes to inform and be informed by
the technical efforts currently under way in other organizations which are
represented on the President's Advisory Committee on IDNs;
WHEREAS the GNSO Council acknowledges the timelines in the ICANN bylaws, and
recognizes the recommendation from the GNSO Council review to revise those
timelines, and given the complexity of this issue, the GNSO Council will
develop an appropriate work plan that meets the needs of the ICANN
community.
The GNSO Council requests an Issues Report on the policy issues associated
with creating internationalised equivalents of existing gTLDs, and second
level domains within existing gTLDs.
The GNSO Council recommends that the staff engage appropriate expert
resources to assist in the preparation of the Issues Report.
The GNSO also requests that the staff liaise with the ccNSO to ensure that
the policy issues associated with internationalised versions of the existing
ccTLDs can also be considered.
Item 4: Vote of thanks for outgoing Council members
Bruce Tonkin on behalf of the Council, thanked the following Council
members who were leaving:
Philip Colebrook
Alick Wilson
Niklas Lagergren
for their work on the Council and called for a formal vote of thanks
from the Council which would be mentioned in the GNSO Chair's
presentation to the ICANN Board at the public forum.
The motion carried unanimously
Decision 5: Vote of thanks for outgoing Council members
Philip Colebrook
Alick Wilson
Niklas Lagergren
Item 5 Any Other Business:
Philip Sheppard referred to a proposed compromise motion relating to the
Verisign settlement posted to the Council list on December 2, 2005 from
the Commercial and Business Users constituency for discussion by Council.
Draft GNSO Council motion on the proposed Verisign settlement v2
Whereas the GNSO constituencies participated in a review of the proposed
settlement and have detailed statements on issues of concern,
Whereas the GNSO Council supports the principle of a settlement of
litigation between ICANN and Verisign,
Whereas the GNSO Council does not support all articles within this
proposed settlement,
Whereas the GNSO Council believes that there are broader questions raised
in the proposed settlement that need to be first addressed by the GNSO.
The GNSO Council resolves:
That the ICANN Board should postpone adoption of the proposed settlement
while the Council fully investigates the policy issues raised by the
proposed changes.
All the council members were requested to make a full disclosure of
their potential interests or involvement in any issues relating to the
dot com agreement.
Conflict of Interest Policy Section 4, Duty to Abstain, 4.1, states:
4.1 No Director shall vote on any matter in which he or she has a
material and direct financial interest that will be affected by the
outcome of the vote.
4.2 In the event of such an abstention, the abstaining Director shall
state the reason for the abstention, which shall be noted in the minutes
of the Board of Directors.
Further clarification on a point of order was that there was quorum for
the meeting, the GNSO Council was in session and that quorum related to
the meeting, not to the topic. .
Alick Wilson declared independency with no conflict of interest and held
a proxy vote for Bruce Tonkin
Bruce Tonkin, employed by Melbourne IT declared that Melbourne IT would
be affected by the outcomes of the proposed dot com agreement and the
company was a 10% share holder of the dot biz. registry operator.
Tom Keller, working for a German registrar, would be affected by the dot
com agreement, and the company was a shareholder in Afilias registry.
Lucy Nichols, was not aware of any immediate conflict, but disclosed
that Nokia Corporation where she worked was part of the joint venture
for dot mobi.
Cary Karp, representative of the gTLD registry constituency, declared a
conflict of interest.
Ken Stubbs, representative of the gTLD registry constituency, declared
he was a director of Afilias.
Ken Stubbs disclosed that June Seo, a representative from the gTLD
registry constituency, was an employee of Verisign.
Ross Rader works for Tucows, a shareholder of Afilias Corporation, a
registry and reserved the right to put other conflict of interests,
should there be any, on the table at any time.
Bret Fausett, a nonvoting liaison, representing the At Large Advisory
Committee (ALAC) disclosed that his family trust owned a de minimus
amount of stock in Tucows, Neustar and Verisign.
Council members who had no conflict of interests holding proxy votes:
Alick Wilson, and Avri Doria, held proxies for Bruce Tonkin
Norbert Klein held proxy for Tom Keller,
Niklas Lagergren held proxies for Ross Rader and Lucy Nichols
Philip Sheppard, Marilyn Cade, Tony Holmes, Greg Ruth, Tony Harris,
Robin Gross, and Maureen Cubberley had no conflict in the issue.
Bruce Tonkin clarified that the decision was up to individual
councillors, after they had declared their conflict of interest, whether
they felt that they could discuss the topic, with the advice that any
councillor who wished not to participate could pass a proxy to an
appropriate person.
Bruce Tonkin handed over the chair of the actual discussion to Philip
Sheppard.
Philip Sheppard, in the chair, accepted the proposed friendly amendment and
Cary Karp moved to call the question.
The motion was put to a role call vote.
The motion carried: 21 votes in favour, 2 against that count for 4
votes, one abstention that counts for 2 votes.
Decision 6:
Whereas the GNSO constituencies participated in a review of the proposed
settlement and have detailed statements on issues of concern;
Whereas the GNSO Council supports the conclusion of the litigation
between ICANN and Verisign;
Whereas the GNSO Council does not support all articles within this
proposed settlement;
Whereas the GNSO Council believes that there are broader questions
raised in the proposed settlement that need to be first addressed by the
GNSO;
The GNSO Council resolves:
That the ICANN Board should postpone adoption of the proposed settlement
while the Council fully investigates the policy issues raised by the
proposed changes.
Philip Sheppard, thanked the transcribers, and passed the chair back to
Bruce Tonkin.
Bruce Tonkin declared the GNSO meeting closed and thanked everybody for
participating.
The meeting ended: 1: 20 PST.
Next GNSO Council teleconference, Wednesday 21 December 2005 at 19:00 UTC.
see: Calendar
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Glen de Saint Géry
GNSO Secretariat - ICANN
gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org
http://gnso.icann.org
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