December 2007 - council - lists.icann.org

Re: [council] Funding for travel
by Mike Rodenbaugh 04 Dec '07

04 Dec '07

I agree with Robin. ----- Original Message ---- From: Robin Gross <robin(a)ipjustice.org> Cc: Council GNSO <council(a)gnso.icann.org> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 10:27:26 AM Subject: Re: [council] Funding for travel I think the approach is for full support for all council members. I'm not sure that trying to divide councilors into classes of need and interest is useful in this situation. The organization should simply pay for the work of the organization to be done, which means the travel costs of those expected to participate in policy meetings. Robin Avri Doria wrote: > > Hi, > > While I have made a request to Denise regarding support for travel > for remote locations by council members, understanding that most > every location is remote to someone, I am not sure what direct action > we can take. I have asked for budget consideration for 2008. Does > anyone have any suggestions? > > For clarification, what level of support we are asking for: > > - Full support for all council members equivalent to nomcom appointee > level os support > - Full support for at least one member from each constituency > - Support on an individual need basis. As I understand it, some > participants may have already been able to get support on this basis. > > One personal comment about nomcom appointee support. For the most > part nomcom appointees are outsiders brought into ICANN and are > generally not people who would have had professional interest in > ICANN had they not been brought in by the Nomcom. Speaking > personally, while a registrant and thus a stakeholder without > constituency, ICANN was not on my list of professional activities and > thus was not something i would have chosen to spent my own income on > (i.e., I was content as an outside critic until asked to participate > from the inside). I am assuming that those in constituencies and who > become active in these constituencies have a professional or advocacy > reason for participation. I am not arguing that this disqualifies > anyone for support, but am trying to point out that there may be a > difference in consideration between nomcom appointee expenses and > constituency representative expenses. Also I do not expect that any > nomcom appointee get their income from activities relating to ICANN. > e.g, I don't. I also wonder whether any of the constituencies > provide support for their chosen council members and whether this > should be an issue as part of the restructuring effort. > > a. > > On 3 dec 2007, at 09.41, Mike Rodenbaugh wrote: > >> I also support another direct request, and echo Ute’s comments. I >> doubt that many Councilors outside of the NomComm (who have their >> expenses paid) and the Registries and Registrars (who have ICANN >> issues central to their businesses) would be able to make the trips >> to Delhi or Africa. >> >> From: owner-council(a)gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- >> council(a)gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Ute Decker >> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 3:09 AM >> To: council(a)gnso.icann.org >> Subject: RE: [council] Funding for travel >> >> I very much support that – ideally giving him also an idea of >> scale. I am among the many who will not be able to attend unless >> travel cost is covered and this is too important a meeting to miss >> out on. >> >> From: owner-council(a)gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner- >> council(a)gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard >> Sent: 03 December 2007 10:59 >> To: council(a)gnso.icann.org >> Subject: [council] Funding for travel >> >> Given that Delhi will soon be upon us, and that Council travel >> funding is in the ICANN budget, (even though we have repeated this >> request in our reform submission), should we consider a direct >> request to the ICANN CEO to authorise release of funds for Delhi ? >> >> Philip >> >> > >

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RE: [council] Draft of a possible note to the CEO - updated
by Alan Greenberg 04 Dec '07

04 Dec '07

My recollection is that they get travel expenses and I believe business class air travel (for long flights anyway, perhaps all). Alan At 04/12/2007 01:23 PM, Rosette, Kristina wrote: >Do the Board members get travel? I thought they didn't. > >I suggest replacing the last sentence with: The Council appreciates >your prompt consideration of this request. We look forward to receiving >the requested travel expense authorization soon. > >K > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-council(a)gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] >On Behalf Of Avri Doria >Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:20 PM >To: Council GNSO >Subject: [council] Draft of a possible note to the CEO - updated > > > >Taking Tim's comment into account and with some other rephrasing. > >------- > > >Dear Dr. Twomey, > >I am writing on behalf to the GNSO council with a urgent request for >travel funding for all GNSO council members for the New Delhi meeting. >A strong majority of those in the council, with no dissent, have >requested that all GNSO council members receive the same consideration >for their travel expenses as Nomcom Appointees to the council receive. >This support should be at the same level as is received by Members of >the ICANN Board. > >The urgency of the situation, though the request has been a standing >request for a while now, is because several council members have >indicated that they will not be able to attend the meeting in New Delhi >without such support. > >Please get back to me as soon as possible regarding this request. > >Thank you, > >Avri Doria >Chair, GNSO Council

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Draft of a possible note to the CEO
by Avri Doria 04 Dec '07

04 Dec '07

Hi, While I am still waiting to hear from many council members on this request, I have drafted up a note that can be discussed as well. Please send your comments and recommended edits. Possible letter on the funding request: ------- Dear Dr. Twomey, I am writing on behalf to the GNSO council with a urgent request for travel funding for all GSNO council members for the New Delhi meeting. A strong majority of those in the council, with no dissent, have requested that all GSNO council members receive the same consideration for their travel expenses as Nomcom Appointees to the council receive. Several council members have indicated that they will not be able to attend the meeting in New Delhi without such support. Please get back to me as soon as possible regarding this request. Thank you, Avri Doria Chair, GNSO Council

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RE: [council] Funding for travel
by Tim Ruiz 04 Dec '07

04 Dec '07

I agree. Seems the same level and conditions as for Board members would make sense. Tim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [council] Funding for travel From: "Anthony Harris" <harris(a)cabase.org.ar> Date: Tue, December 04, 2007 10:47 am To: "Avri Doria" <avri(a)psg.com>, "Council GNSO" <council(a)gnso.icann.org> In case I was not heard, I support Robin. It is time funding support be provided by ICANN. Regards Tony Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Avri Doria" <avri(a)psg.com> To: "Council GNSO" <council(a)gnso.icann.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [council] Funding for travel > > Hi, > > I have no issue with writing a note to Paul Twomey, but I have not > yet heard form the entire > council on this, not even from all of the constituencies. So before > I do write a note that says > the entire council is asking for something I would like to hear from > others. > > I will add this to the agenda under AOB. In the meantime, I am sure > that Denise knows that > at least part of the council thinks of this as priority. And also, I > would like to ask those who > have not spoke up to give some indication of how they feel about this. > > Thanks > > a. > > On 4 dec 2007, at 00.32, Philip Sheppard wrote: > >> I agree with Robin too. >> This is exactly the intent. >> Support no less and no more than nom com. >> All equal in the sight of the CEO. >> >> >> We hardly need more discussion on this. Council's intent is clear. >> Lets cut to the chase. >> >> Avri, as our elected Chair, please e-mail Paul Twomey CEO and ask >> him directly for full funding for Delhi. >> >> Philip >> >

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Nominating Committee job description posted on draft documents page
by GNSO.SECRETARIAT＠GNSO.ICANN.ORG 04 Dec '07

04 Dec '07

Dear All, The Nominating Committee job description as agreed upon by the Council and on the agenda for discussion at the meeting on Thursday, 6 December 2007, is posted on the draft documents page: http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/ and can be directly accessed at: http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/nomcom-position-03dec07.pdf Thank you. Kind regards, Glen -- Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat - ICANN gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org

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RE: [council] Funding for travel
by Denise Michel 04 Dec '07

04 Dec '07

For this fiscal year's Policy budget, I included funding for Council members' travel to 2 intersessional meetings (we have an agreement on funding this travel and similar needs as last year were anticipated). We don't have an agreement or practice of funding Council members' travel to ICANN meetings for any SO Councils(NomCom appointees' travel is funded out of the NomCom budget line item). We can, however, open this to discussion. Regards, Denise Denise Michel ICANN VP, Policy Development denise.michel(a)icann.org ------------------------------------------ From: owner-council(a)gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:59 PM To: council(a)gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Funding for travel Given that Delhi will soon be upon us, and that Council travel funding is in the ICANN budget, (even though we have repeated this request in our reform submission), should we consider a direct request to the ICANN CEO to authorise release of funds for Delhi ? Philip

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Funding for travel
by Philip Sheppard 04 Dec '07

04 Dec '07

Given that Delhi will soon be upon us, and that Council travel funding is in the ICANN budget, (even though we have repeated this request in our reform submission), should we consider a direct request to the ICANN CEO to authorise release of funds for Delhi ? Philip

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FW: Re: [REGYCON] FW: [council] IDN mailing list
by Gomes, Chuck 03 Dec '07

03 Dec '07

With Ram's permission, I am forwarded a message he sent to the RyC list regarding the establishment of an IDN list. Chuck Gomes "This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized use, distribution, or disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify sender immediately and destroy/delete the original transmission." ________________________________ From: GNSO Registry Constituency Planning [mailto:REGYCON-L@NIC.MUSEUM] On Behalf Of Ram Mohan Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 7:56 AM To: REGYCON-L(a)NIC.MUSEUM Subject: Re: [REGYCON] FW: [council] IDN mailing list Chuck, all: I see no reason to use the old list for a new set of discussions that may be orthogonal or tangential to the original discussions. The original IDN WG mailing list should have been closed at the closure of the prior working group. To reuse it, and to automatically opt-in its members to a new list with new rules and new charters does not make much sense to me. The second issue is that I expect the new discussions will be primarily on gTLD IDN matters; the IDN WG list was populated by a large array of folks, only a few from the gTLDs. The third issue is that when the list is now populated with the new topics, archives will appear as if the group took a 6-month hiatus, and resumed its deliberations on the same topics, which would be misleading (to say the least). Is it really so hard to setup a new list, solicit participants (even get the vetted emails of members from the current list), and start out? This should not be such a difficult step. . . . Thanks, Ram

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IDN mailing list
by Greg Ruth 03 Dec '07

03 Dec '07

It appears that the IDN WG mailing list is still operative. I propose that this be the basis for a 6-month trial of an IDN discussion list. As Council chair, Avri is willing to monitor the list during the trial period. I would envision that ICANN would publicly announce the "creation" of this list (probably with a new name), describing its purpose and rules, and explaining how to subscribe. Please put this on the agenda to be discussed at the next meeting. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Re: [council] Funding for travel
by Greg Ruth 03 Dec '07

03 Dec '07

Philip et al, I fully support this. Greg ----- Original Message ---- From: Philip Sheppard <philip.sheppard(a)aim.be> To: council(a)gnso.icann.org Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 5:59:17 AM Subject: [council] Funding for travel Given that Delhi will soon be upon us, and that Council travel funding is in the ICANN budget, (even though we have repeated this request in our reform submission), should we consider a direct request to the ICANN CEO to authorise release of funds for Delhi ? Philip ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ

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