August 2014 - lac-discuss-es

Night Music en Los Angeles
by staff＠atlarge.icann.org Aug. 17, 2014

Aug. 17, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Night Music en Los Angeles Desde: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org El 16/08/2014 14:38, "Roberto Gaetano" <roberto_gaetano(a)hotmail.com> escribió: > Amigos, > > Aprovecho la oportunidad en este lento fin de semana a mediados de agosto, cuando el correo > Lista es casi inactivo, para hablar de un tema más frívolo: música noche > En > LA. > > Tras la buena reacción que tuvimos para la sesión de música en la Cumbre de > Londres, algunos de nosotros estábamos pensando en tener un evento similar en el marco de la > Noche de música en Los Ángeles. > > Sin embargo, sería bueno extender la participación a cualquier músico, y tratar > A ser un poco más organizado - por ejemplo, decidir las canciones, al menos, 10 > Minutos antes del show J > > En lo personal, me gustaría hacer de este evento una de múltiples partes interesadas - la banda > Será llamado GEMS (Global Igualdad Multi-Stakeholders) y espero > Tener > La presente convocatoria de manifestaciones de interés (Expresión de Interés) por los músicos en la mayoría > grupos de interés > Lista. Estoy empezando de ALAC, también con la solicitud para hacer circular esto en > Las listas regionales (solo tengo acceso a EURALO, en copia). > > Si cualquier músico quiere ser voluntario, por favor hágamelo saber por correo electrónico a su > Brevedad posible. > > Saludos, > > Roberto > > > >_______________________________________________ >EURO-Discuss mailing list >EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss > >Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/770534498b.html --]]

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Anunciado los nuevos miembros seleccionados por 2014 -NOMCOMM a las posiciones de liderazgo / Announcement - 2014- NOMCOMM selectees for leadership positions
by Vanda Scartezini Aug. 15, 2014

Aug. 15, 2014

The link to the announcement is: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-15-en <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-15-en> . The selectee names in the announcement are linked to a biography page: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bios-2014-08-15-en Abrazos / Best Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com Aug. 15, 2014

Aug. 15, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Muy consciente de la discusión en el hilo .... y la idea errónea. De hecho, me respondí a la publicación original de Dev antes de la convocatoria de la votación y repitió mi posición posteriormente en el wiki; 2 caracteres segundo nivel dominios gTLD no deben restringirse. Aparte de eso, pequeño detalle, pero los comentarios bajo el encabezamiento de materia tendrían confusión añadido en lugar de aclarar la discusión de nuestros colegas. Especialmente aquellos que no estaban pagando gran atención en el primer lugar. Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y Turnaround * ============================= El viernes, 15 de agosto 2014 a las 11:04 AM, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty(a)gmail.com> escribió: > Carlton, > > the subject line as Sergio's original. > > Sergio and Christian object to something that is not being discussed. > > Chapter over and our representatives should vote in abstention admitting > that LACRALO didn't understand the question well enough to arrive at a > position. > > Let's do better next time. > > Yours, > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Carlton Samuels < > carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Vanda: >> FWIW, the subject line is therefore deceptive; you DO NOT agree with >> Sergio. >> >> Carlton >> >> >> ============================== >> Carlton A Samuels >> Mobile: 876-818-1799 >> *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* >> >> ============================= >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM, <vanda(a)uol.com.br> wrote: >> >> > >> > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] >> > >> > Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas >> > From: vanda(a)uol.com.br >> > >> > Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues. >> > Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any >> > issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not >> seem >> > right >> > not admit that the new also do so. >> > Hugs all q >> > Vanda Scartezini >> > Polo Consultores Associados >> > Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj >> > 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil >> > Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 >> > Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty(a)gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > Sergio, >> > > >> > > At the risk of not being understood or not I explain: >> > > >> > > So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs >> > > Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc. >> > > >> > > That is not up for discussion right now. >> > > >> > > What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names >> > > Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo. >> > > Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like >> > > Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo. >> > > >> > > Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo, >> > > Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting >> > > Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently >> > > ISO 3166). >> > > >> > > I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo? >> > > >> > > I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day >> > > The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv. >> > > Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of >> bv.globo >> > > And when change happens the name is no longer available? >> > > >> > > Alejandro Pisanty >> > > >> > > >> > > 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto < >> > > Presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar>: >> > > >> > I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that >> plain >> > and simple >> > Do not >> >> > I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause >> > User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that >> > Besides >> >> > >> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of >> > >> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some >> > Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be >> > >> Used for purposes other than for which it was created. >> > This >> more clear now? >> > >> >> > * Sergio Salinas Porto >> >> > Argentina President Internauta >> >> > Argentina >> Internet Users Association >> > >> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> >> > FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users >> > >> <http://www.fuilatin.org> >> > Facebook >>: I salinasporto < >> http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> >> > & >> > SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> >> > Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> >> > Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto >> > >> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> >> > Hangout >>: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar >> > >> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / >> > Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> >> > Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> >> > Skype >>: internautaargentina >> > Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 * >> > >> >> > * >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received >> > orders >> > >> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo >> > Galeano * >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch < >> > Apisan(a)unam.mx >> >> > >>> Wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Sergio, >> > >>> >> > >>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the >> > reading >> > Of >> >> > >>> Vanda (which I share): >> > >>> >> > >>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST >> > LEVEL >> at >> > >>> GTLD. >> > >>> >> > >>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind >> > Aa.tld >>, >> > >>> Where aa is any combination of two letters. >> > >>> >> > >>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly? >> > >>> >> > >>> Alejandro Pisanty >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> > >>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty >> > >>> School of Chemistry UNAM >> > >>> Av.University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD >> > >>> >> > >>> SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO >> > >>> Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com >> > >>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty >> > >>> Join the LinkedIn group at UNAM, >> > >>> Http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 >> > >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty >> > >>> ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org >> > >>>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> > >>> >> > >>> ________________________________________ >> > >>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ >> > >>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of >> Sergio >> > >>> Salinas Porto [presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar] >> > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03 >> > >>> To: Vanda Scartezini >> > >>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish >> > >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas >> > >>> >> > >>> Dear Vanda: >> > >>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or >> > By >> >> > >>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD. >> > >>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what >> > That >> >> > >>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about >> > How come >> >> > >>> These changes would impact on end users. >> > >>> We, the end users, who usually know (except >> > Rare >> >> > >>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs >> > Or >> >> > More >> >> > >>> Characters and two-character ccTLD, >> > >>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users >> > About >> >> > >>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some >> > Type >> >> > Of >> >> > >>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as >> > >>> Recognize to be clear rules. >> > >>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some >> > >> Kind of >> > >>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to >> > call >> > >>> Somehow) to Internet users. >> > >>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain >> > Characters >> >> > >>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be >> > >>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not >> > Should >> >> > >>> Be delivered to anyone. >> > >>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of >> > Wall and >> >> > >>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I >> > I studied >> >> > >>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how >> countries >> > Called >> >> > Of >> >> > >>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today >> > Are >> >> > >>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further >> > Two >> >> > >>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard >> > >>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and >> > Other >> >> > >>> Administrative units to define domain names >> > Level >> >> > >>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs >> > With >> >> > >>> A little money in their pockets. >> > >>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex. >> > >>> A dear friend hug >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> * Sergio Salinas Porto >> > >>> President Internauta Argentina >> > >>> Argentina Association of Internet Users >> > >>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> >> > >>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users >> > >>> <http://www.fuilatin.org> >> > >>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> >> & >> > >>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> >> > >>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> >> > >>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto >> > >>> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> >> > >>> Hangout: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar >> > >>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / >> > >>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> >> > >>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> >> > >>> Skype: internautaargentina >> > >>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 * >> > >>> >> > >>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders >> > >>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo >> > >>> Galeano * >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda(a)uol.com.br> >> > >>> Wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names >> > >> Domain. >> > >>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil >> > >> There are, >> > >>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think >> > >>> Allow >> > >>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two >> > >>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to >> have a >> > Treatment >> >> > >>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market, >> > That >> >> > Do not >> >> > >>>> Seems fair. >> > >>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if >> > What >> >> > >>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered >> > >> - >> > >>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com >> > >>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or >> > My >> >> > See >> >> > >>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel >> > These >> >> > >>>> Names by level. >> > >>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary >> > >>>> Hugs >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Vanda Scartezini >> > >>>> Polo Consultores Associados >> > >>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj >> > >>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil >> > >>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 >> > >>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" < >> > cristiancasas(a)hotmail.com> >> > >> Wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion >> > That >> >> > >>> The >> > >>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics >> > >>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO >> > With >> >> > >>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions >> > >>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the >> > Dispute >> >> > >>> By >> > >>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk). >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Cristian Homes >> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list >> > >>>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Http://www.lacralo.org >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list >> > >>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Http://www.lacralo.org >> > >>>> >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list >> > >>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> > >>> >> > >>> Http://www.lacralo.org >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Lac-discuss->>'s mailing list >> > Lac-discuss->> es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> > >> >> > Http://www.lacralo.org >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > - >> > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> > > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty >> > >Facultad de QuÃmica UNAM >> > >Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico >> > >+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD >> > >+525541444475 DESDE MÃXICO SMS +525541444475 >> > >Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com >> > >LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty >> > >Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, >> > >http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 >> > >Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty >> > >---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org >> > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >lac-discuss-es mailing list >> > >lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> > > >> > >http://www.lacralo.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > lac-discuss-en mailing list >> > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> > >> > >> > http://www.lacralo.org >> > >> > >> > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/d99971f7e0.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas
by Carlton Samuels Aug. 15, 2014

Aug. 15, 2014

Dear Vanda: FWIW, the subject line is therefore deceptive; you DO NOT agree with Sergio. Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM, <vanda(a)uol.com.br> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas > From: vanda(a)uol.com.br > > Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues. > Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any > issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not seem > right > not admit that the new also do so. > Hugs all q > Vanda Scartezini > Polo Consultores Associados > Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj > 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Sergio, > > > > At the risk of not being understood or not I explain: > > > > So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs > > Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc. > > > > That is not up for discussion right now. > > > > What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names > > Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo. > > Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like > > Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo. > > > > Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo, > > Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting > > Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently > > ISO 3166). > > > > I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo? > > > > I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day > > The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv. > > Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of bv.globo > > And when change happens the name is no longer available? > > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > > > 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto < > > Presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar>: > > > I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that plain > and simple > Do not >> > I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause > User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that > Besides >> > >> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of > >> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some > Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be > >> Used for purposes other than for which it was created. > This >> more clear now? > >> > * Sergio Salinas Porto >> > Argentina President Internauta >> > Argentina >> Internet Users Association > >> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> > FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users > >> <http://www.fuilatin.org> > Facebook >>: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> > & > SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> > Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> > Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto > >> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> > Hangout >>: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > >> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / > Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> > Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> > Skype >>: internautaargentina > Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 * > >> > * >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received > orders > >> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo > Galeano * >> > >> > >> > >> > The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch < > Apisan(a)unam.mx >> > >>> Wrote: > >> > >>> Sergio, > >>> > >>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the > reading > Of >> > >>> Vanda (which I share): > >>> > >>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST > LEVEL >> at > >>> GTLD. > >>> > >>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind > Aa.tld >>, > >>> Where aa is any combination of two letters. > >>> > >>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly? > >>> > >>> Alejandro Pisanty > >>> > >>> > >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > >>> School of Chemistry UNAM > >>> Av.University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > >>> > >>> SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO > >>> Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > >>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > >>> Join the LinkedIn group at UNAM, > >>> Http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > >>> ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > >>>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >>> > >>> ________________________________________ > >>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ > >>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio > >>> Salinas Porto [presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar] > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03 > >>> To: Vanda Scartezini > >>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish > >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas > >>> > >>> Dear Vanda: > >>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or > By >> > >>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD. > >>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what > That >> > >>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about > How come >> > >>> These changes would impact on end users. > >>> We, the end users, who usually know (except > Rare >> > >>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs > Or >> > More >> > >>> Characters and two-character ccTLD, > >>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users > About >> > >>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some > Type >> > Of >> > >>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as > >>> Recognize to be clear rules. > >>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some > >> Kind of > >>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to > call > >>> Somehow) to Internet users. > >>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain > Characters >> > >>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be > >>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not > Should >> > >>> Be delivered to anyone. > >>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of > Wall and >> > >>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I > I studied >> > >>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how countries > Called >> > Of >> > >>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today > Are >> > >>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further > Two >> > >>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard > >>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and > Other >> > >>> Administrative units to define domain names > Level >> > >>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs > With >> > >>> A little money in their pockets. > >>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex. > >>> A dear friend hug > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> * Sergio Salinas Porto > >>> President Internauta Argentina > >>> Argentina Association of Internet Users > >>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> > >>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users > >>> <http://www.fuilatin.org> > >>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> & > >>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> > >>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> > >>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto > >>> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> > >>> Hangout: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > >>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / > >>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> > >>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> > >>> Skype: internautaargentina > >>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 * > >>> > >>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders > >>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo > >>> Galeano * > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda(a)uol.com.br> > >>> Wrote: > >>> > >>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names > >> Domain. > >>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil > >> There are, > >>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think > >>> Allow > >>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two > >>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to have a > Treatment >> > >>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market, > That >> > Do not >> > >>>> Seems fair. > >>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if > What >> > >>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered > >> - > >>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com > >>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or > My >> > See >> > >>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel > These >> > >>>> Names by level. > >>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary > >>>> Hugs > >>>> > >>>> Vanda Scartezini > >>>> Polo Consultores Associados > >>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj > >>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > >>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > >>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" < > cristiancasas(a)hotmail.com> > >> Wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion > That >> > >>> The > >>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics > >>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO > With >> > >>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions > >>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the > Dispute >> > >>> By > >>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk). > >>>>> > >>>>> Cristian Homes > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>>>> > >>>>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>>> > >>>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>> > >>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > Lac-discuss->>'s mailing list > Lac-discuss->> es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >> > Http://www.lacralo.org >> > > > > > > > > > > - > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > >Facultad de Química UNAM > >Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > >+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > >+525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 > >Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > >LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > >Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, > >http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > >Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > >---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >_______________________________________________ > >lac-discuss-es mailing list > >lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > >http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > [[--Original text (es) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/50474e9948.html > --]] > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > >

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas
by apisanty＠gmail.com Aug. 15, 2014

Aug. 15, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas Desde: apisanty(a)gmail.com Carlton, la línea de asunto tan original de Sergio. Sergio y Christian se oponen a algo que no está en discusión. Capítulo una y nuestros representantes deben votar en la admisión de la abstención que LACRALO no entendía la pregunta lo suficientemente bien como para llegar a una posición. Vamos a hacerlo mejor la próxima vez. Atentamente, Alejandro Pisanty El viernes, 15 de agosto 2014 a las 10:29 AM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Dear Vanda: > FWIW, the subject line is therefore deceptive; you DO NOT agree with > Sergio. > > Carlton > > > ============================== > Carlton A Samuels > Mobile: 876-818-1799 > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* > ============================= > > > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM, <vanda(a)uol.com.br> wrote: > > > > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > > > Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas > > From: vanda(a)uol.com.br > > > > Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues. > > Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any > > issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not seem > > right > > not admit that the new also do so. > > Hugs all q > > Vanda Scartezini > > Polo Consultores Associados > > Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj > > 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > > Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > > Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Sergio, > > > > > > At the risk of not being understood or not I explain: > > > > > > So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs > > > Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc. > > > > > > That is not up for discussion right now. > > > > > > What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names > > > Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo. > > > Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like > > > Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo. > > > > > > Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo, > > > Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting > > > Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently > > > ISO 3166). > > > > > > I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo? > > > > > > I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day > > > The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv. > > > Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of > bv.globo > > > And when change happens the name is no longer available? > > > > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > > > > > > 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto < > > > Presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar>: > > > > > I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that > plain > > and simple > > Do not >> > > I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause > > User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that > > Besides >> > > >> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of > > >> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some > > Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be > > >> Used for purposes other than for which it was created. > > This >> more clear now? > > >> > > * Sergio Salinas Porto >> > > Argentina President Internauta >> > > Argentina >> Internet Users Association > > >> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> > > FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users > > >> <http://www.fuilatin.org> > > Facebook >>: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto > > > > & > > SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> > > Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> > > Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto > > >> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> > > Hangout >>: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > > >> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / > > Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> > > Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> > > Skype >>: internautaargentina > > Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 * > > >> > > * >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received > > orders > > >> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo > > Galeano * >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch < > > Apisan(a)unam.mx >> > > >>> Wrote: > > >> > > >>> Sergio, > > >>> > > >>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the > > reading > > Of >> > > >>> Vanda (which I share): > > >>> > > >>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST > > LEVEL >> at > > >>> GTLD. > > >>> > > >>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind > > Aa.tld >>, > > >>> Where aa is any combination of two letters. > > >>> > > >>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly? > > >>> > > >>> Alejandro Pisanty > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > >>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > > >>> School of Chemistry UNAM > > >>> Av.University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > > >>> > > >>> SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO > > >>> Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > >>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > >>> Join the LinkedIn group at UNAM, > > >>> Http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > > >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > >>> ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > > >>>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > >>> > > >>> ________________________________________ > > >>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ > > >>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio > > >>> Salinas Porto [presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar] > > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03 > > >>> To: Vanda Scartezini > > >>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish > > >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas > > >>> > > >>> Dear Vanda: > > >>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or > > By >> > > >>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD. > > >>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what > > That >> > > >>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about > > How come >> > > >>> These changes would impact on end users. > > >>> We, the end users, who usually know (except > > Rare >> > > >>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs > > Or >> > > More >> > > >>> Characters and two-character ccTLD, > > >>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users > > About >> > > >>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some > > Type >> > > Of >> > > >>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as > > >>> Recognize to be clear rules. > > >>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some > > >> Kind of > > >>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to > > call > > >>> Somehow) to Internet users. > > >>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain > > Characters >> > > >>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be > > >>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not > > Should >> > > >>> Be delivered to anyone. > > >>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of > > Wall and >> > > >>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I > > I studied >> > > >>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how > countries > > Called >> > > Of >> > > >>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today > > Are >> > > >>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further > > Two >> > > >>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard > > >>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and > > Other >> > > >>> Administrative units to define domain names > > Level >> > > >>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs > > With >> > > >>> A little money in their pockets. > > >>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex. > > >>> A dear friend hug > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> * Sergio Salinas Porto > > >>> President Internauta Argentina > > >>> Argentina Association of Internet Users > > >>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> > > >>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users > > >>> <http://www.fuilatin.org> > > >>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> > & > > >>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> > > >>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> > > >>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto > > >>> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> > > >>> Hangout: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > > >>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / > > >>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> > > >>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> > > >>> Skype: internautaargentina > > >>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 * > > >>> > > >>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders > > >>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo > > >>> Galeano * > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda(a)uol.com.br> > > >>> Wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names > > >> Domain. > > >>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil > > >> There are, > > >>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think > > >>> Allow > > >>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two > > >>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to have > a > > Treatment >> > > >>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market, > > That >> > > Do not >> > > >>>> Seems fair. > > >>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if > > What >> > > >>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered > > >> - > > >>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com > > >>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or > > My >> > > See >> > > >>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel > > These >> > > >>>> Names by level. > > >>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary > > >>>> Hugs > > >>>> > > >>>> Vanda Scartezini > > >>>> Polo Consultores Associados > > >>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj > > >>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > > >>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > > >>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" < > > cristiancasas(a)hotmail.com> > > >> Wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion > > That >> > > >>> The > > >>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics > > >>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO > > With >> > > >>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions > > >>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the > > Dispute >> > > >>> By > > >>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Cristian Homes > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > > >>>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Http://www.lacralo.org > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > > >>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > >>>> > > >>>> Http://www.lacralo.org > > >>>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > > >>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > >>> > > >>> Http://www.lacralo.org > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Lac-discuss->>'s mailing list > > Lac-discuss->> es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > >> > > Http://www.lacralo.org >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > > >Facultad de QuÃmica UNAM > > >Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > >+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > > >+525541444475 DESDE MÃXICO SMS +525541444475 > > >Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > >LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > >Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, > > >http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > > >Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > >---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > >_______________________________________________ > > >lac-discuss-es mailing list > > >lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > > >http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > lac-discuss-en mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/b2bffd6233.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com Aug. 15, 2014

Aug. 15, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Estimado Vanda: FWIW, el asunto es, por tanto, engañosa; no está de acuerdo con Sergio. Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y Turnaround * ============================= El viernes, 15 de agosto 2014 a las 10:18 AM, <vanda(a)uol.com.br> escribió: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas > From: vanda(a)uol.com.br > > Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues. > Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any > issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not seem > right > not admit that the new also do so. > Hugs all q > Vanda Scartezini > Polo Consultores Associados > Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj > 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Sergio, > > > > At the risk of not being understood or not I explain: > > > > So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs > > Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc. > > > > That is not up for discussion right now. > > > > What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names > > Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo. > > Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like > > Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo. > > > > Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo, > > Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting > > Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently > > ISO 3166). > > > > I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo? > > > > I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day > > The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv. > > Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of bv.globo > > And when change happens the name is no longer available? > > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > > > 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto < > > Presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar>: > > > I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that plain > and simple > Do not >> > I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause > User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that > Besides >> > >> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of > >> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some > Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be > >> Used for purposes other than for which it was created. > This >> more clear now? > >> > * Sergio Salinas Porto >> > Argentina President Internauta >> > Argentina >> Internet Users Association > >> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> > FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users > >> <http://www.fuilatin.org> > Facebook >>: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> > & > SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> > Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> > Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto > >> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> > Hangout >>: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > >> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / > Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> > Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> > Skype >>: internautaargentina > Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 * > >> > * >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received > orders > >> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo > Galeano * >> > >> > >> > >> > The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch < > Apisan(a)unam.mx >> > >>> Wrote: > >> > >>> Sergio, > >>> > >>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the > reading > Of >> > >>> Vanda (which I share): > >>> > >>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST > LEVEL >> at > >>> GTLD. > >>> > >>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind > Aa.tld >>, > >>> Where aa is any combination of two letters. > >>> > >>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly? > >>> > >>> Alejandro Pisanty > >>> > >>> > >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > >>> School of Chemistry UNAM > >>> Av.University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > >>> > >>> SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO > >>> Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > >>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > >>> Join the LinkedIn group at UNAM, > >>> Http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > >>> ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > >>>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >>> > >>> ________________________________________ > >>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ > >>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio > >>> Salinas Porto [presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar] > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03 > >>> To: Vanda Scartezini > >>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish > >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas > >>> > >>> Dear Vanda: > >>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or > By >> > >>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD. > >>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what > That >> > >>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about > How come >> > >>> These changes would impact on end users. > >>> We, the end users, who usually know (except > Rare >> > >>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs > Or >> > More >> > >>> Characters and two-character ccTLD, > >>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users > About >> > >>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some > Type >> > Of >> > >>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as > >>> Recognize to be clear rules. > >>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some > >> Kind of > >>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to > call > >>> Somehow) to Internet users. > >>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain > Characters >> > >>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be > >>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not > Should >> > >>> Be delivered to anyone. > >>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of > Wall and >> > >>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I > I studied >> > >>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how countries > Called >> > Of >> > >>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today > Are >> > >>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further > Two >> > >>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard > >>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and > Other >> > >>> Administrative units to define domain names > Level >> > >>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs > With >> > >>> A little money in their pockets. > >>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex. > >>> A dear friend hug > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> * Sergio Salinas Porto > >>> President Internauta Argentina > >>> Argentina Association of Internet Users > >>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> > >>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users > >>> <http://www.fuilatin.org> > >>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> & > >>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> > >>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> > >>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto > >>> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> > >>> Hangout: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > >>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / > >>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> > >>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> > >>> Skype: internautaargentina > >>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 * > >>> > >>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders > >>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo > >>> Galeano * > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda(a)uol.com.br> > >>> Wrote: > >>> > >>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names > >> Domain. > >>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil > >> There are, > >>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think > >>> Allow > >>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two > >>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to have a > Treatment >> > >>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market, > That >> > Do not >> > >>>> Seems fair. > >>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if > What >> > >>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered > >> - > >>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com > >>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or > My >> > See >> > >>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel > These >> > >>>> Names by level. > >>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary > >>>> Hugs > >>>> > >>>> Vanda Scartezini > >>>> Polo Consultores Associados > >>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj > >>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > >>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > >>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" < > cristiancasas(a)hotmail.com> > >> Wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion > That >> > >>> The > >>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics > >>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO > With >> > >>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions > >>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the > Dispute >> > >>> By > >>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk). > >>>>> > >>>>> Cristian Homes > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>>>> > >>>>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>>> > >>>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>> > >>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > Lac-discuss->>'s mailing list > Lac-discuss->> es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >> > Http://www.lacralo.org >> > > > > > > > > > > - > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > >Facultad de QuÃmica UNAM > >Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > >+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > >+525541444475 DESDE MÃXICO SMS +525541444475 > >Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > >LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > >Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, > >http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > >Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > >---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >_______________________________________________ > >lac-discuss-es mailing list > >lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > >http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ce3f958f56.html --]]

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Fwd: [LAC/COMMS] ICANN LAC en/em/in Youtube
by Fatima Cambronero Aug. 13, 2014

Aug. 13, 2014

FYI, Gracias Alexandra! ---------- Mensaje reenviado ---------- De: Alexandra Dans <alexandra.dans(a)icann.org> Fecha: 13 de agosto de 2014, 15:44 Asunto: [LAC/COMMS] ICANN LAC en/em/in Youtube Para: "lac-comms-plan(a)icann.org" <lac-comms-plan(a)icann.org> Estimados amigos, Queríamos anunciarles que ahora contamos con un espacio en Youtube para los videos de y para la región. Los mismos se encuentran en diferentes idiomas (español, portugués e inglés). http://goo.gl/Wt1QJe ¡Siéntanse libre de compartir! --- Prezados amigos, Queríamos anunciar que agora temos um espaço no Youtube para vídeos da e para a região. Estão em diferentes idiomas (Espanhol, Português e Inglês). http://goo.gl/Wt1QJe Para compartilhar! --- Dear friends, We wanted to let you know that we now have a space on Youtube for videos from and for the region. They are in different languages (Spanish, Portuguese and English). http://goo.gl/Wt1QJe Feel free to share! -------------------------- Alexandra Dans alexandra.dans(a)icann.org @alexdansopina Gerente de Comunicaciones para América Latina y el Caribe La Casa de Internet de Latinoamérica y el Caribe Rambla República de México 6125 Montevideo, 11400 Uruguay ICANN One World, One Internet _______________________________________________ lac-comms-plan mailing list lac-comms-plan(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-comms-plan -- *Fatima Cambronero* Abogada-Argentina Phone: +54 9351 5282 668 Twitter: @facambronero Skype: fatima.cambronero

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ACTUALIZACI�N: Invitaci�n Reuni�n / LACRALO llamada mensual - Lunes 18 de agosto de 2014 se proporcionar� interpretaci�n / Portugu�s
by staff＠atlarge.icann.org Aug. 13, 2014

Aug. 13, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: ACTUALIZACIÓN: Invitación Reunión / LACRALO llamada mensual - Lunes 18 de agosto de 2014 se proporcionará interpretación / Portugués Desde: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Queridos todos, La siguiente llamada LACRALO mensual está prevista para el lunes 18 agosto 2014 a las 2300 UTC. Se proporcionará interpretación en portugués. Para otros horarios: http://tinyurl.com/mk38s2n El proyecto de orden del día (para ser actualizado) y detalles de llamadas están disponibles en: https://community.icann.org/x/eL3hAg Adobe Connect: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacralo ID de conferencia: EN 1638 ES 1738 PT 5393 Espacio de trabajo Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/NJQi Por favor confirme su línea de salida y el número preferido de: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Gracias. Saludos, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine y Terri Agnew El personal de ICANN Política en apoyo de ALAC E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <applewebdata://68497759-1B04-4F9B-84B7-B9445B8F305F/Regards,%20Heidi%20Ullrich,%20Silvia%20Vivanco,%20Matt%20Ashtiani,%20Ariel%20Liang,%20Gisella%20Gruber,%20Nathalie%20Peregrine%20and%20Julia%20Charvolen%20ICANN%20Policy%20Staff%20in%20support%20of%20ALACmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann.atlarge < https://www.facebook.com/icann.atlarge> Twitter:ICANN_AtLarge < https://twitter.com/ICANN_AtLarge> lac-discuss-en la lista de correo lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/8c84528eeb.html --]]

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Fwd: IANA Consulta Transici�n en LACNIC Comunidad
by andrespiazza＠gmail.com Aug. 13, 2014

Aug. 13, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Fwd: IANA Consulta Transición en LACNIC Comunidad Desde: andrespiazza(a)gmail.com Estimados Colegas, Deseo reenviar this Information in Caso Que No esten suscriptos a la Lista internet-gov(a)lacnic.net. Saludos, Andrés Piazza - Estimados colegas, Quiero enviar esta información en caso de que algunos de ustedes aún no son miembros de la lista de internet-gov(a)lacnic.net Saludos, Andrés Piazza -------- Originales Mensaje -------- Asunto: Transición [Internet-gov] IANA Consulta en LACNIC Comunidad Fecha: Mié, 13 de agosto 2014 08:26:23 -0300 De: Andrés Piazza <andres(a)lacnic.net><andres(a)lacnic.net> Responder-a :: Gobernanza de Internet <internet-gov(a)lacnic.net><internet-gov(a)lacnic.net> A: internet-gov(a)lacnic.net [Português Abaixo] [Inglés abajo] Estimados Colegas, Deseamos extender la Presente Invitación a Participar de la Teleconferencia LANZAMIENTO del Proceso de Consulta a la Comunidad de LACNIC Sobre la Transición de la Custodia de las Funciones de IANA, una celebrarse El Día Viernes 15 de agosto de 2014 a las 15:00 pm UTC, 12 del Mediodía hora de Montevideo. Enlace: https://lacnic.webex.com/lacnic/j.php?MTID=ma7a083d8ef72b840cc396a9d632261d6 CONTRASEÑA: iana2014 En el Proceso de consulta Procura Obtener Aportes de la comunidad regional un Través De Una Consulta Pública Que permita plasmar el debate de Múltiples contradictorio Sobre la Transición de la custodia de las Funciones de la IANA en la región de Latinoamérica y El Caribe Tomando baño Cuenta Las Visiones, preocupaciones, Sugerencias y / o Recomendaciones respecto de la Transición del rol referido y especificamente Orientado a las Asignaciones de Direcciones IP. Más información en http://www.lacnic.net/web/lacnic/iana-transicion Prezados Colegas, Convidamos vocês un participarem da Teleconferencia lançamento hacer Processo de Consulta a Comunidade de LACNIC sobre a transição da Custódia das funções da IANA, una realizada Ser na sexta-feira 15 de agosto de 2014, según 15: 00h UTC (meio-dia em Montevidéu). Enlace: https://lacnic.webex.com/lacnic/j.php?MTID=ma7a083d8ef72b840cc396a9d632261d6 Senha: iana2014 No processo de Consulta Procura-se Obter contribuições da comunidade regional através de uma Consulta Pública Que permita modelar o das debate MULTIPLAS contradictorio about da transição da Custódia das funções da IANA na Região da América Latina eo Caribe Levando em conta como visões, preocupações, Sugestões e recomendações / ou em relação à transição do Papel referido e especificamente direcionado às designações de Endereços IP. Para mais informações, acesse http://www.lacnic.net/pt/web/lacnic/iana-transicion Estimados colegas, Es un placer para nosotros invitar a la teleconferencia durante el cual el Proceso de Consulta Pública con la Comunidad LACNIC sobre la transición de Se pondrá en marcha de Manejo de las funciones de IANA, que se celebrará en Viernes, 15 de agosto 2014 a las 15:00 UTC, 12 del mediodía, hora de Montevideo. Enlace: https://lacnic.webex.com/lacnic/j.php?MTID=ma7a083d8ef72b840cc396a9d632261d6 Contraseña: iana2014 El proceso de consulta pública pretende obtener de la comunidad regional de entrada con el fin de dar forma al debate multisectorial sobre la transición de la administración de las funciones de IANA en América Latina y el Caribe, teniendo en cuenta los puntos de vista regional, inquietudes, sugerencias y / o recomendaciones con respecto a esta transición, y específicamente en lo que se refiere a La asignación de direcciones IP. Más información disponible en http://www.lacnic.net/en/web/lacnic/iana-transicion - * Andrés Piazza * andrespiazza [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/bb1fb16ddb.html --]]

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Fwd: [Internet-gov] IANA Transition Consultation in LACNIC Community
by Andrés Piazza Aug. 13, 2014

Aug. 13, 2014

Estimados Colegas, Deseo reenviar esta información en caso que no esten suscriptos a la lista internet-gov(a)lacnic.net. Saludos, Andrés Piazza -- Dear Colleagues, I want to send this information in case some of you are not yet members of the list internet-gov(a)lacnic.net Regards, Andrés Piazza -------- Mensaje original -------- Asunto: [Internet-gov] IANA Transition Consultation in LACNIC Community Fecha: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:26:23 -0300 De: Andres Piazza <andres(a)lacnic.net> <andres(a)lacnic.net> Responder-a:: Gobernanza de Internet <internet-gov(a)lacnic.net> <internet-gov(a)lacnic.net> A: internet-gov(a)lacnic.net [Português abaixo] [English below] Estimados Colegas, Deseamos extender la presente Invitación a participar de la Teleconferencia Lanzamiento del Proceso de Consulta a la Comunidad de LACNIC sobre la Transición de la Custodia de las Funciones de IANA, a celebrarse el día Viernes 15 de agosto de 2014 a las 15:00 pm UTC, 12 del mediodía hora de Montevideo. Link: https://lacnic.webex.com/lacnic/j.php?MTID=ma7a083d8ef72b840cc396a9d632261d6 Contraseña: iana2014 En el proceso de consulta procura obtener aportes de la comunidad regional a través de una consulta pública que permita plasmar el debate de múltiples partes sobre la transición de la custodia de las funciones de la IANA en la región de Latinoamérica y El Caribe tomando en cuenta las visiones, preocupaciones, sugerencias y/o recomendaciones respecto de la transición del rol referido y específicamente orientado a las asignaciones de direcciones IP. Más información en http://www.lacnic.net/web/lacnic/iana-transicion Prezados Colegas, Convidamos vocês a participarem da teleconferência lançamento do Processo de Consulta à Comunidade de LACNIC sobre a transição da custódia das funções da IANA, a ser realizada na sexta-feira 15 de agosto de 2014, às 15:00h UTC (meio-dia em Montevidéu). Link: https://lacnic.webex.com/lacnic/j.php?MTID=ma7a083d8ef72b840cc396a9d632261d6 Senha: iana2014 No processo de Consulta procura-se obter contribuições da comunidade regional através de uma consulta pública que permita modelar o debate das múltiplas partes acerca da transição da custódia das funções da IANA na região da América Latina e o Caribe levando em conta as visões, preocupações, sugestões e/ ou recomendações em relação à transição do papel referido e especificamente direcionado às designações de endereços IP. Para mais informações, acesse http://www.lacnic.net/pt/web/lacnic/iana-transicion Dear colleagues, It is our pleasure to invite you to the Teleconference during which the Public Consultation Process with the LACNIC Community on the Transition of Stewardship of the IANA Functions will be launched, which will be held on Friday, 15 August, 2014 at 15:00 UTC, 12 noon Montevideo time. Link: https://lacnic.webex.com/lacnic/j.php?MTID=ma7a083d8ef72b840cc396a9d632261d6 Password: iana2014 The public consultation process seeks to obtain the regional community’s input with a view to shaping the multistakeholder debate on the transition of stewardship of the IANA functions in Latin America and the Caribbean, taking into account regional points of view, concerns, suggestions and/or recommendations regarding this transition, and specifically as it concerns IP address assignment. More information available at http://www.lacnic.net/en/web/lacnic/iana-transicion -- *Andrés Piazza* @andrespiazza

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