August 2014 - lac-discuss-es

Night Music en Los Angeles
by staff＠atlarge.icann.org Aug. 17, 2014

Aug. 17, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Night Music en Los Angeles Desde: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org El 16/08/2014 14:38, "Roberto Gaetano" <roberto_gaetano(a)hotmail.com> escribió: > Amigos, > > Aprovecho la oportunidad en este lento fin de semana a mediados de agosto, cuando el correo > Lista es casi inactivo, para hablar de un tema más frívolo: música noche > En > LA. > > Tras la buena reacción que tuvimos para la sesión de música en la Cumbre de > Londres, algunos de nosotros estábamos pensando en tener un evento similar en el marco de la > Noche de música en Los Ángeles. > > Sin embargo, sería bueno extender la participación a cualquier músico, y tratar > A ser un poco más organizado - por ejemplo, decidir las canciones, al menos, 10 > Minutos antes del show J > > En lo personal, me gustaría hacer de este evento una de múltiples partes interesadas - la banda > Será llamado GEMS (Global Igualdad Multi-Stakeholders) y espero > Tener > La presente convocatoria de manifestaciones de interés (Expresión de Interés) por los músicos en la mayoría > grupos de interés > Lista. Estoy empezando de ALAC, también con la solicitud para hacer circular esto en > Las listas regionales (solo tengo acceso a EURALO, en copia). > > Si cualquier músico quiere ser voluntario, por favor hágamelo saber por correo electrónico a su > Brevedad posible. > > Saludos, > > Roberto > > > >_______________________________________________ >EURO-Discuss mailing list >EURO-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss > >Homepage for the region: http://www.euralo.org [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/770534498b.html --]]

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Anunciado los nuevos miembros seleccionados por 2014 -NOMCOMM a las posiciones de liderazgo / Announcement - 2014- NOMCOMM selectees for leadership positions
by Vanda Scartezini Aug. 15, 2014

Aug. 15, 2014

The link to the announcement is: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-15-en <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-08-15-en> . The selectee names in the announcement are linked to a biography page: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/bios-2014-08-15-en Abrazos / Best Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com Aug. 15, 2014

Aug. 15, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Muy consciente de la discusión en el hilo .... y la idea errónea. De hecho, me respondí a la publicación original de Dev antes de la convocatoria de la votación y repitió mi posición posteriormente en el wiki; 2 caracteres segundo nivel dominios gTLD no deben restringirse. Aparte de eso, pequeño detalle, pero los comentarios bajo el encabezamiento de materia tendrían confusión añadido en lugar de aclarar la discusión de nuestros colegas. Especialmente aquellos que no estaban pagando gran atención en el primer lugar. Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y Turnaround * ============================= El viernes, 15 de agosto 2014 a las 11:04 AM, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty(a)gmail.com> escribió: > Carlton, > > the subject line as Sergio's original. > > Sergio and Christian object to something that is not being discussed. > > Chapter over and our representatives should vote in abstention admitting > that LACRALO didn't understand the question well enough to arrive at a > position. > > Let's do better next time. > > Yours, > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Carlton Samuels < > carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Vanda: >> FWIW, the subject line is therefore deceptive; you DO NOT agree with >> Sergio. >> >> Carlton >> >> >> ============================== >> Carlton A Samuels >> Mobile: 876-818-1799 >> *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* >> >> ============================= >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM, <vanda(a)uol.com.br> wrote: >> >> > >> > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] >> > >> > Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas >> > From: vanda(a)uol.com.br >> > >> > Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues. >> > Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any >> > issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not >> seem >> > right >> > not admit that the new also do so. >> > Hugs all q >> > Vanda Scartezini >> > Polo Consultores Associados >> > Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj >> > 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil >> > Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 >> > Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty(a)gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > Sergio, >> > > >> > > At the risk of not being understood or not I explain: >> > > >> > > So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs >> > > Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc. >> > > >> > > That is not up for discussion right now. >> > > >> > > What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names >> > > Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo. >> > > Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like >> > > Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo. >> > > >> > > Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo, >> > > Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting >> > > Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently >> > > ISO 3166). >> > > >> > > I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo? >> > > >> > > I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day >> > > The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv. >> > > Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of >> bv.globo >> > > And when change happens the name is no longer available? >> > > >> > > Alejandro Pisanty >> > > >> > > >> > > 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto < >> > > Presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar>: >> > > >> > I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that >> plain >> > and simple >> > Do not >> >> > I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause >> > User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that >> > Besides >> >> > >> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of >> > >> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some >> > Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be >> > >> Used for purposes other than for which it was created. >> > This >> more clear now? >> > >> >> > * Sergio Salinas Porto >> >> > Argentina President Internauta >> >> > Argentina >> Internet Users Association >> > >> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> >> > FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users >> > >> <http://www.fuilatin.org> >> > Facebook >>: I salinasporto < >> http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> >> > & >> > SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> >> > Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> >> > Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto >> > >> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> >> > Hangout >>: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar >> > >> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / >> > Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> >> > Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> >> > Skype >>: internautaargentina >> > Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 * >> > >> >> > * >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received >> > orders >> > >> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo >> > Galeano * >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch < >> > Apisan(a)unam.mx >> >> > >>> Wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Sergio, >> > >>> >> > >>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the >> > reading >> > Of >> >> > >>> Vanda (which I share): >> > >>> >> > >>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST >> > LEVEL >> at >> > >>> GTLD. >> > >>> >> > >>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind >> > Aa.tld >>, >> > >>> Where aa is any combination of two letters. >> > >>> >> > >>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly? >> > >>> >> > >>> Alejandro Pisanty >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> > >>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty >> > >>> School of Chemistry UNAM >> > >>> Av.University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD >> > >>> >> > >>> SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO >> > >>> Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com >> > >>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty >> > >>> Join the LinkedIn group at UNAM, >> > >>> Http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 >> > >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty >> > >>> ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org >> > >>>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> > >>> >> > >>> ________________________________________ >> > >>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ >> > >>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of >> Sergio >> > >>> Salinas Porto [presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar] >> > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03 >> > >>> To: Vanda Scartezini >> > >>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish >> > >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas >> > >>> >> > >>> Dear Vanda: >> > >>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or >> > By >> >> > >>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD. >> > >>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what >> > That >> >> > >>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about >> > How come >> >> > >>> These changes would impact on end users. >> > >>> We, the end users, who usually know (except >> > Rare >> >> > >>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs >> > Or >> >> > More >> >> > >>> Characters and two-character ccTLD, >> > >>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users >> > About >> >> > >>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some >> > Type >> >> > Of >> >> > >>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as >> > >>> Recognize to be clear rules. >> > >>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some >> > >> Kind of >> > >>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to >> > call >> > >>> Somehow) to Internet users. >> > >>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain >> > Characters >> >> > >>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be >> > >>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not >> > Should >> >> > >>> Be delivered to anyone. >> > >>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of >> > Wall and >> >> > >>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I >> > I studied >> >> > >>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how >> countries >> > Called >> >> > Of >> >> > >>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today >> > Are >> >> > >>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further >> > Two >> >> > >>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard >> > >>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and >> > Other >> >> > >>> Administrative units to define domain names >> > Level >> >> > >>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs >> > With >> >> > >>> A little money in their pockets. >> > >>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex. >> > >>> A dear friend hug >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> * Sergio Salinas Porto >> > >>> President Internauta Argentina >> > >>> Argentina Association of Internet Users >> > >>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> >> > >>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users >> > >>> <http://www.fuilatin.org> >> > >>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> >> & >> > >>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> >> > >>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> >> > >>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto >> > >>> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> >> > >>> Hangout: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar >> > >>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / >> > >>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> >> > >>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> >> > >>> Skype: internautaargentina >> > >>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 * >> > >>> >> > >>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders >> > >>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo >> > >>> Galeano * >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda(a)uol.com.br> >> > >>> Wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names >> > >> Domain. >> > >>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil >> > >> There are, >> > >>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think >> > >>> Allow >> > >>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two >> > >>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to >> have a >> > Treatment >> >> > >>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market, >> > That >> >> > Do not >> >> > >>>> Seems fair. >> > >>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if >> > What >> >> > >>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered >> > >> - >> > >>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com >> > >>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or >> > My >> >> > See >> >> > >>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel >> > These >> >> > >>>> Names by level. >> > >>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary >> > >>>> Hugs >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Vanda Scartezini >> > >>>> Polo Consultores Associados >> > >>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj >> > >>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil >> > >>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 >> > >>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" < >> > cristiancasas(a)hotmail.com> >> > >> Wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion >> > That >> >> > >>> The >> > >>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics >> > >>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO >> > With >> >> > >>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions >> > >>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the >> > Dispute >> >> > >>> By >> > >>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk). >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Cristian Homes >> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list >> > >>>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Http://www.lacralo.org >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list >> > >>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Http://www.lacralo.org >> > >>>> >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list >> > >>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> > >>> >> > >>> Http://www.lacralo.org >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Lac-discuss->>'s mailing list >> > Lac-discuss->> es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> > >> >> > Http://www.lacralo.org >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > - >> > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> > > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty >> > >Facultad de QuÃmica UNAM >> > >Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico >> > >+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD >> > >+525541444475 DESDE MÃXICO SMS +525541444475 >> > >Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com >> > >LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty >> > >Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, >> > >http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 >> > >Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty >> > >---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org >> > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >lac-discuss-es mailing list >> > >lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> > > >> > >http://www.lacralo.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > lac-discuss-en mailing list >> > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> > >> > >> > http://www.lacralo.org >> > >> > >> > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/d99971f7e0.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas
by Carlton Samuels Aug. 15, 2014

Aug. 15, 2014

Dear Vanda: FWIW, the subject line is therefore deceptive; you DO NOT agree with Sergio. Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM, <vanda(a)uol.com.br> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas > From: vanda(a)uol.com.br > > Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues. > Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any > issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not seem > right > not admit that the new also do so. > Hugs all q > Vanda Scartezini > Polo Consultores Associados > Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj > 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Sergio, > > > > At the risk of not being understood or not I explain: > > > > So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs > > Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc. > > > > That is not up for discussion right now. > > > > What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names > > Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo. > > Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like > > Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo. > > > > Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo, > > Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting > > Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently > > ISO 3166). > > > > I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo? > > > > I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day > > The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv. > > Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of bv.globo > > And when change happens the name is no longer available? > > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > > > 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto < > > Presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar>: > > > I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that plain > and simple > Do not >> > I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause > User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that > Besides >> > >> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of > >> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some > Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be > >> Used for purposes other than for which it was created. > This >> more clear now? > >> > * Sergio Salinas Porto >> > Argentina President Internauta >> > Argentina >> Internet Users Association > >> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> > FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users > >> <http://www.fuilatin.org> > Facebook >>: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> > & > SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> > Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> > Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto > >> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> > Hangout >>: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > >> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / > Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> > Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> > Skype >>: internautaargentina > Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 * > >> > * >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received > orders > >> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo > Galeano * >> > >> > >> > >> > The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch < > Apisan(a)unam.mx >> > >>> Wrote: > >> > >>> Sergio, > >>> > >>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the > reading > Of >> > >>> Vanda (which I share): > >>> > >>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST > LEVEL >> at > >>> GTLD. > >>> > >>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind > Aa.tld >>, > >>> Where aa is any combination of two letters. > >>> > >>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly? > >>> > >>> Alejandro Pisanty > >>> > >>> > >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > >>> School of Chemistry UNAM > >>> Av.University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > >>> > >>> SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO > >>> Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > >>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > >>> Join the LinkedIn group at UNAM, > >>> Http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > >>> ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > >>>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >>> > >>> ________________________________________ > >>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ > >>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio > >>> Salinas Porto [presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar] > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03 > >>> To: Vanda Scartezini > >>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish > >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas > >>> > >>> Dear Vanda: > >>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or > By >> > >>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD. > >>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what > That >> > >>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about > How come >> > >>> These changes would impact on end users. > >>> We, the end users, who usually know (except > Rare >> > >>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs > Or >> > More >> > >>> Characters and two-character ccTLD, > >>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users > About >> > >>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some > Type >> > Of >> > >>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as > >>> Recognize to be clear rules. > >>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some > >> Kind of > >>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to > call > >>> Somehow) to Internet users. > >>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain > Characters >> > >>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be > >>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not > Should >> > >>> Be delivered to anyone. > >>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of > Wall and >> > >>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I > I studied >> > >>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how countries > Called >> > Of >> > >>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today > Are >> > >>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further > Two >> > >>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard > >>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and > Other >> > >>> Administrative units to define domain names > Level >> > >>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs > With >> > >>> A little money in their pockets. > >>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex. > >>> A dear friend hug > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> * Sergio Salinas Porto > >>> President Internauta Argentina > >>> Argentina Association of Internet Users > >>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> > >>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users > >>> <http://www.fuilatin.org> > >>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> & > >>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> > >>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> > >>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto > >>> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> > >>> Hangout: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > >>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / > >>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> > >>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> > >>> Skype: internautaargentina > >>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 * > >>> > >>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders > >>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo > >>> Galeano * > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda(a)uol.com.br> > >>> Wrote: > >>> > >>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names > >> Domain. > >>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil > >> There are, > >>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think > >>> Allow > >>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two > >>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to have a > Treatment >> > >>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market, > That >> > Do not >> > >>>> Seems fair. > >>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if > What >> > >>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered > >> - > >>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com > >>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or > My >> > See >> > >>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel > These >> > >>>> Names by level. > >>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary > >>>> Hugs > >>>> > >>>> Vanda Scartezini > >>>> Polo Consultores Associados > >>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj > >>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > >>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > >>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" < > cristiancasas(a)hotmail.com> > >> Wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion > That >> > >>> The > >>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics > >>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO > With >> > >>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions > >>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the > Dispute >> > >>> By > >>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk). > >>>>> > >>>>> Cristian Homes > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>>>> > >>>>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>>> > >>>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>> > >>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > Lac-discuss->>'s mailing list > Lac-discuss->> es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >> > Http://www.lacralo.org >> > > > > > > > > > > - > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > >Facultad de Química UNAM > >Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > >+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > >+525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 > >Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > >LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > >Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, > >http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > >Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > >---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >_______________________________________________ > >lac-discuss-es mailing list > >lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > >http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > [[--Original text (es) > http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/50474e9948.html > --]] > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > >

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas
by apisanty＠gmail.com Aug. 15, 2014

Aug. 15, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas Desde: apisanty(a)gmail.com Carlton, la línea de asunto tan original de Sergio. Sergio y Christian se oponen a algo que no está en discusión. Capítulo una y nuestros representantes deben votar en la admisión de la abstención que LACRALO no entendía la pregunta lo suficientemente bien como para llegar a una posición. Vamos a hacerlo mejor la próxima vez. Atentamente, Alejandro Pisanty El viernes, 15 de agosto 2014 a las 10:29 AM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Dear Vanda: > FWIW, the subject line is therefore deceptive; you DO NOT agree with > Sergio. > > Carlton > > > ============================== > Carlton A Samuels > Mobile: 876-818-1799 > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* > ============================= > > > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:18 AM, <vanda(a)uol.com.br> wrote: > > > > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > > > Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas > > From: vanda(a)uol.com.br > > > > Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues. > > Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any > > issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not seem > > right > > not admit that the new also do so. > > Hugs all q > > Vanda Scartezini > > Polo Consultores Associados > > Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj > > 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > > Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > > Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Sergio, > > > > > > At the risk of not being understood or not I explain: > > > > > > So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs > > > Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc. > > > > > > That is not up for discussion right now. > > > > > > What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names > > > Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo. > > > Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like > > > Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo. > > > > > > Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo, > > > Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting > > > Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently > > > ISO 3166). > > > > > > I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo? > > > > > > I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day > > > The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv. > > > Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of > bv.globo > > > And when change happens the name is no longer available? > > > > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > > > > > > 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto < > > > Presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar>: > > > > > I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that > plain > > and simple > > Do not >> > > I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause > > User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that > > Besides >> > > >> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of > > >> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some > > Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be > > >> Used for purposes other than for which it was created. > > This >> more clear now? > > >> > > * Sergio Salinas Porto >> > > Argentina President Internauta >> > > Argentina >> Internet Users Association > > >> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> > > FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users > > >> <http://www.fuilatin.org> > > Facebook >>: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto > > > > & > > SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> > > Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> > > Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto > > >> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> > > Hangout >>: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > > >> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / > > Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> > > Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> > > Skype >>: internautaargentina > > Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 * > > >> > > * >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received > > orders > > >> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo > > Galeano * >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch < > > Apisan(a)unam.mx >> > > >>> Wrote: > > >> > > >>> Sergio, > > >>> > > >>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the > > reading > > Of >> > > >>> Vanda (which I share): > > >>> > > >>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST > > LEVEL >> at > > >>> GTLD. > > >>> > > >>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind > > Aa.tld >>, > > >>> Where aa is any combination of two letters. > > >>> > > >>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly? > > >>> > > >>> Alejandro Pisanty > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > >>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > > >>> School of Chemistry UNAM > > >>> Av.University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > > >>> > > >>> SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO > > >>> Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > >>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > >>> Join the LinkedIn group at UNAM, > > >>> Http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > > >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > >>> ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > > >>>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > >>> > > >>> ________________________________________ > > >>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ > > >>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio > > >>> Salinas Porto [presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar] > > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03 > > >>> To: Vanda Scartezini > > >>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish > > >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas > > >>> > > >>> Dear Vanda: > > >>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or > > By >> > > >>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD. > > >>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what > > That >> > > >>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about > > How come >> > > >>> These changes would impact on end users. > > >>> We, the end users, who usually know (except > > Rare >> > > >>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs > > Or >> > > More >> > > >>> Characters and two-character ccTLD, > > >>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users > > About >> > > >>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some > > Type >> > > Of >> > > >>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as > > >>> Recognize to be clear rules. > > >>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some > > >> Kind of > > >>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to > > call > > >>> Somehow) to Internet users. > > >>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain > > Characters >> > > >>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be > > >>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not > > Should >> > > >>> Be delivered to anyone. > > >>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of > > Wall and >> > > >>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I > > I studied >> > > >>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how > countries > > Called >> > > Of >> > > >>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today > > Are >> > > >>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further > > Two >> > > >>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard > > >>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and > > Other >> > > >>> Administrative units to define domain names > > Level >> > > >>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs > > With >> > > >>> A little money in their pockets. > > >>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex. > > >>> A dear friend hug > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> * Sergio Salinas Porto > > >>> President Internauta Argentina > > >>> Argentina Association of Internet Users > > >>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> > > >>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users > > >>> <http://www.fuilatin.org> > > >>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> > & > > >>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> > > >>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> > > >>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto > > >>> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> > > >>> Hangout: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > > >>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / > > >>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> > > >>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> > > >>> Skype: internautaargentina > > >>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 * > > >>> > > >>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders > > >>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo > > >>> Galeano * > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda(a)uol.com.br> > > >>> Wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names > > >> Domain. > > >>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil > > >> There are, > > >>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think > > >>> Allow > > >>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two > > >>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to have > a > > Treatment >> > > >>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market, > > That >> > > Do not >> > > >>>> Seems fair. > > >>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if > > What >> > > >>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered > > >> - > > >>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com > > >>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or > > My >> > > See >> > > >>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel > > These >> > > >>>> Names by level. > > >>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary > > >>>> Hugs > > >>>> > > >>>> Vanda Scartezini > > >>>> Polo Consultores Associados > > >>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj > > >>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > > >>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > > >>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" < > > cristiancasas(a)hotmail.com> > > >> Wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion > > That >> > > >>> The > > >>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics > > >>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO > > With >> > > >>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions > > >>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the > > Dispute >> > > >>> By > > >>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Cristian Homes > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > > >>>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Http://www.lacralo.org > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > > >>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > >>>> > > >>>> Http://www.lacralo.org > > >>>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > > >>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > >>> > > >>> Http://www.lacralo.org > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Lac-discuss->>'s mailing list > > Lac-discuss->> es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > >> > > Http://www.lacralo.org >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > > >Facultad de QuÃmica UNAM > > >Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > >+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > > >+525541444475 DESDE MÃXICO SMS +525541444475 > > >Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > >LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > >Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, > > >http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > > >Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > >---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > >_______________________________________________ > > >lac-discuss-es mailing list > > >lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > > >http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > lac-discuss-en mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/b2bffd6233.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com Aug. 15, 2014

Aug. 15, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Estamos de acuerdo con Sergio Salinas Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Estimado Vanda: FWIW, el asunto es, por tanto, engañosa; no está de acuerdo con Sergio. Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y Turnaround * ============================= El viernes, 15 de agosto 2014 a las 10:18 AM, <vanda(a)uol.com.br> escribió: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas > From: vanda(a)uol.com.br > > Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues. > Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any > issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not seem > right > not admit that the new also do so. > Hugs all q > Vanda Scartezini > Polo Consultores Associados > Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj > 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Sergio, > > > > At the risk of not being understood or not I explain: > > > > So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs > > Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc. > > > > That is not up for discussion right now. > > > > What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names > > Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo. > > Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like > > Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo. > > > > Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo, > > Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting > > Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently > > ISO 3166). > > > > I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo? > > > > I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day > > The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv. > > Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of bv.globo > > And when change happens the name is no longer available? > > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > > > 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto < > > Presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar>: > > > I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that plain > and simple > Do not >> > I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause > User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that > Besides >> > >> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of > >> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some > Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be > >> Used for purposes other than for which it was created. > This >> more clear now? > >> > * Sergio Salinas Porto >> > Argentina President Internauta >> > Argentina >> Internet Users Association > >> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> > FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users > >> <http://www.fuilatin.org> > Facebook >>: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> > & > SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> > Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> > Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto > >> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> > Hangout >>: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > >> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / > Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> > Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> > Skype >>: internautaargentina > Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 * > >> > * >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received > orders > >> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo > Galeano * >> > >> > >> > >> > The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch < > Apisan(a)unam.mx >> > >>> Wrote: > >> > >>> Sergio, > >>> > >>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the > reading > Of >> > >>> Vanda (which I share): > >>> > >>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST > LEVEL >> at > >>> GTLD. > >>> > >>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind > Aa.tld >>, > >>> Where aa is any combination of two letters. > >>> > >>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly? > >>> > >>> Alejandro Pisanty > >>> > >>> > >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > >>> School of Chemistry UNAM > >>> Av.University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> + 52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > >>> > >>> SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO > >>> Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > >>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > >>> Join the LinkedIn group at UNAM, > >>> Http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > >>> ---- >> Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > >>>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >>> > >>> ________________________________________ > >>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ > >>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio > >>> Salinas Porto [presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar] > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03 > >>> To: Vanda Scartezini > >>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish > >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas > >>> > >>> Dear Vanda: > >>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or > By >> > >>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD. > >>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what > That >> > >>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about > How come >> > >>> These changes would impact on end users. > >>> We, the end users, who usually know (except > Rare >> > >>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs > Or >> > More >> > >>> Characters and two-character ccTLD, > >>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users > About >> > >>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some > Type >> > Of >> > >>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as > >>> Recognize to be clear rules. > >>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some > >> Kind of > >>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to > call > >>> Somehow) to Internet users. > >>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain > Characters >> > >>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be > >>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not > Should >> > >>> Be delivered to anyone. > >>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of > Wall and >> > >>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I > I studied >> > >>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how countries > Called >> > Of >> > >>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today > Are >> > >>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further > Two >> > >>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard > >>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and > Other >> > >>> Administrative units to define domain names > Level >> > >>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs > With >> > >>> A little money in their pockets. > >>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex. > >>> A dear friend hug > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> * Sergio Salinas Porto > >>> President Internauta Argentina > >>> Argentina Association of Internet Users > >>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar> > >>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users > >>> <http://www.fuilatin.org> > >>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> & > >>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII> > >>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas> > >>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto > >>> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts> > >>> Hangout: presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar > >>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> / > >>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto> > >>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto> > >>> Skype: internautaargentina > >>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 * > >>> > >>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders > >>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo > >>> Galeano * > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda(a)uol.com.br> > >>> Wrote: > >>> > >>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names > >> Domain. > >>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil > >> There are, > >>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think > >>> Allow > >>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two > >>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to have a > Treatment >> > >>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market, > That >> > Do not >> > >>>> Seems fair. > >>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if > What >> > >>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered > >> - > >>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com > >>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or > My >> > See >> > >>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel > These >> > >>>> Names by level. > >>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary > >>>> Hugs > >>>> > >>>> Vanda Scartezini > >>>> Polo Consultores Associados > >>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj > >>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil > >>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 > >>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" < > cristiancasas(a)hotmail.com> > >> Wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion > That >> > >>> The > >>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics > >>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO > With >> > >>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions > >>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the > Dispute >> > >>> By > >>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk). > >>>>> > >>>>> Cristian Homes > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>>>> > >>>>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>>> > >>>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>> Lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >>> > >>> Http://www.lacralo.org > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > Lac-discuss->>'s mailing list > Lac-discuss->> es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > >> > Http://www.lacralo.org >> > > > > > > > > > > - > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty > >Facultad de QuÃmica UNAM > >Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > >+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD > >+525541444475 DESDE MÃXICO SMS +525541444475 > >Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > >LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > >Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, > >http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 > >Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > >---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >_______________________________________________ > >lac-discuss-es mailing list > >lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > >http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/ce3f958f56.html --]]

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Fwd: [LAC/COMMS] ICANN LAC en/em/in Youtube
by Fatima Cambronero Aug. 14, 2014

Aug. 14, 2014

FYI, Gracias Alexandra! ---------- Mensaje reenviado ---------- De: Alexandra Dans <alexandra.dans(a)icann.org> Fecha: 13 de agosto de 2014, 15:44 Asunto: [LAC/COMMS] ICANN LAC en/em/in Youtube Para: "lac-comms-plan(a)icann.org" <lac-comms-plan(a)icann.org> Estimados amigos, Queríamos anunciarles que ahora contamos con un espacio en Youtube para los videos de y para la región. Los mismos se encuentran en diferentes idiomas (español, portugués e inglés). http://goo.gl/Wt1QJe ¡Siéntanse libre de compartir! --- Prezados amigos, Queríamos anunciar que agora temos um espaço no Youtube para vídeos da e para a região. Estão em diferentes idiomas (Espanhol, Português e Inglês). http://goo.gl/Wt1QJe Para compartilhar! --- Dear friends, We wanted to let you know that we now have a space on Youtube for videos from and for the region. They are in different languages (Spanish, Portuguese and English). http://goo.gl/Wt1QJe Feel free to share! -------------------------- Alexandra Dans alexandra.dans(a)icann.org @alexdansopina Gerente de Comunicaciones para América Latina y el Caribe La Casa de Internet de Latinoamérica y el Caribe Rambla República de México 6125 Montevideo, 11400 Uruguay ICANN One World, One Internet _______________________________________________ lac-comms-plan mailing list lac-comms-plan(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-comms-plan -- *Fatima Cambronero* Abogada-Argentina Phone: +54 9351 5282 668 Twitter: @facambronero Skype: fatima.cambronero

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ACTUALIZACI�N: Invitaci�n Reuni�n / LACRALO llamada mensual - Lunes 18 de agosto de 2014 se proporcionar� interpretaci�n / Portugu�s
by staff＠atlarge.icann.org Aug. 13, 2014

Aug. 13, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: ACTUALIZACIÓN: Invitación Reunión / LACRALO llamada mensual - Lunes 18 de agosto de 2014 se proporcionará interpretación / Portugués Desde: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Queridos todos, La siguiente llamada LACRALO mensual está prevista para el lunes 18 agosto 2014 a las 2300 UTC. Se proporcionará interpretación en portugués. Para otros horarios: http://tinyurl.com/mk38s2n El proyecto de orden del día (para ser actualizado) y detalles de llamadas están disponibles en: https://community.icann.org/x/eL3hAg Adobe Connect: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacralo ID de conferencia: EN 1638 ES 1738 PT 5393 Espacio de trabajo Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/NJQi Por favor confirme su línea de salida y el número preferido de: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Gracias. Saludos, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine y Terri Agnew El personal de ICANN Política en apoyo de ALAC E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <applewebdata://68497759-1B04-4F9B-84B7-B9445B8F305F/Regards,%20Heidi%20Ullrich,%20Silvia%20Vivanco,%20Matt%20Ashtiani,%20Ariel%20Liang,%20Gisella%20Gruber,%20Nathalie%20Peregrine%20and%20Julia%20Charvolen%20ICANN%20Policy%20Staff%20in%20support%20of%20ALACmailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann.atlarge < https://www.facebook.com/icann.atlarge> Twitter:ICANN_AtLarge < https://twitter.com/ICANN_AtLarge> lac-discuss-en la lista de correo lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/8c84528eeb.html --]]

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Fwd: IANA Consulta Transici�n en LACNIC Comunidad
by andrespiazza＠gmail.com Aug. 13, 2014

Aug. 13, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Fwd: IANA Consulta Transición en LACNIC Comunidad Desde: andrespiazza(a)gmail.com Estimados Colegas, Deseo reenviar this Information in Caso Que No esten suscriptos a la Lista internet-gov(a)lacnic.net. Saludos, Andrés Piazza - Estimados colegas, Quiero enviar esta información en caso de que algunos de ustedes aún no son miembros de la lista de internet-gov(a)lacnic.net Saludos, Andrés Piazza -------- Originales Mensaje -------- Asunto: Transición [Internet-gov] IANA Consulta en LACNIC Comunidad Fecha: Mié, 13 de agosto 2014 08:26:23 -0300 De: Andrés Piazza <andres(a)lacnic.net><andres(a)lacnic.net> Responder-a :: Gobernanza de Internet <internet-gov(a)lacnic.net><internet-gov(a)lacnic.net> A: internet-gov(a)lacnic.net [Português Abaixo] [Inglés abajo] Estimados Colegas, Deseamos extender la Presente Invitación a Participar de la Teleconferencia LANZAMIENTO del Proceso de Consulta a la Comunidad de LACNIC Sobre la Transición de la Custodia de las Funciones de IANA, una celebrarse El Día Viernes 15 de agosto de 2014 a las 15:00 pm UTC, 12 del Mediodía hora de Montevideo. Enlace: https://lacnic.webex.com/lacnic/j.php?MTID=ma7a083d8ef72b840cc396a9d632261d6 CONTRASEÑA: iana2014 En el Proceso de consulta Procura Obtener Aportes de la comunidad regional un Través De Una Consulta Pública Que permita plasmar el debate de Múltiples contradictorio Sobre la Transición de la custodia de las Funciones de la IANA en la región de Latinoamérica y El Caribe Tomando baño Cuenta Las Visiones, preocupaciones, Sugerencias y / o Recomendaciones respecto de la Transición del rol referido y especificamente Orientado a las Asignaciones de Direcciones IP. Más información en http://www.lacnic.net/web/lacnic/iana-transicion Prezados Colegas, Convidamos vocês un participarem da Teleconferencia lançamento hacer Processo de Consulta a Comunidade de LACNIC sobre a transição da Custódia das funções da IANA, una realizada Ser na sexta-feira 15 de agosto de 2014, según 15: 00h UTC (meio-dia em Montevidéu). Enlace: https://lacnic.webex.com/lacnic/j.php?MTID=ma7a083d8ef72b840cc396a9d632261d6 Senha: iana2014 No processo de Consulta Procura-se Obter contribuições da comunidade regional através de uma Consulta Pública Que permita modelar o das debate MULTIPLAS contradictorio about da transição da Custódia das funções da IANA na Região da América Latina eo Caribe Levando em conta como visões, preocupações, Sugestões e recomendações / ou em relação à transição do Papel referido e especificamente direcionado às designações de Endereços IP. Para mais informações, acesse http://www.lacnic.net/pt/web/lacnic/iana-transicion Estimados colegas, Es un placer para nosotros invitar a la teleconferencia durante el cual el Proceso de Consulta Pública con la Comunidad LACNIC sobre la transición de Se pondrá en marcha de Manejo de las funciones de IANA, que se celebrará en Viernes, 15 de agosto 2014 a las 15:00 UTC, 12 del mediodía, hora de Montevideo. Enlace: https://lacnic.webex.com/lacnic/j.php?MTID=ma7a083d8ef72b840cc396a9d632261d6 Contraseña: iana2014 El proceso de consulta pública pretende obtener de la comunidad regional de entrada con el fin de dar forma al debate multisectorial sobre la transición de la administración de las funciones de IANA en América Latina y el Caribe, teniendo en cuenta los puntos de vista regional, inquietudes, sugerencias y / o recomendaciones con respecto a esta transición, y específicamente en lo que se refiere a La asignación de direcciones IP. Más información disponible en http://www.lacnic.net/en/web/lacnic/iana-transicion - * Andrés Piazza * andrespiazza [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/bb1fb16ddb.html --]]

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Fwd: [Internet-gov] IANA Transition Consultation in LACNIC Community
by Andrés Piazza Aug. 13, 2014

Aug. 13, 2014

Estimados Colegas, Deseo reenviar esta información en caso que no esten suscriptos a la lista internet-gov(a)lacnic.net. Saludos, Andrés Piazza -- Dear Colleagues, I want to send this information in case some of you are not yet members of the list internet-gov(a)lacnic.net Regards, Andrés Piazza -------- Mensaje original -------- Asunto: [Internet-gov] IANA Transition Consultation in LACNIC Community Fecha: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 08:26:23 -0300 De: Andres Piazza <andres(a)lacnic.net> <andres(a)lacnic.net> Responder-a:: Gobernanza de Internet <internet-gov(a)lacnic.net> <internet-gov(a)lacnic.net> A: internet-gov(a)lacnic.net [Português abaixo] [English below] Estimados Colegas, Deseamos extender la presente Invitación a participar de la Teleconferencia Lanzamiento del Proceso de Consulta a la Comunidad de LACNIC sobre la Transición de la Custodia de las Funciones de IANA, a celebrarse el día Viernes 15 de agosto de 2014 a las 15:00 pm UTC, 12 del mediodía hora de Montevideo. Link: https://lacnic.webex.com/lacnic/j.php?MTID=ma7a083d8ef72b840cc396a9d632261d6 Contraseña: iana2014 En el proceso de consulta procura obtener aportes de la comunidad regional a través de una consulta pública que permita plasmar el debate de múltiples partes sobre la transición de la custodia de las funciones de la IANA en la región de Latinoamérica y El Caribe tomando en cuenta las visiones, preocupaciones, sugerencias y/o recomendaciones respecto de la transición del rol referido y específicamente orientado a las asignaciones de direcciones IP. Más información en http://www.lacnic.net/web/lacnic/iana-transicion Prezados Colegas, Convidamos vocês a participarem da teleconferência lançamento do Processo de Consulta à Comunidade de LACNIC sobre a transição da custódia das funções da IANA, a ser realizada na sexta-feira 15 de agosto de 2014, às 15:00h UTC (meio-dia em Montevidéu). Link: https://lacnic.webex.com/lacnic/j.php?MTID=ma7a083d8ef72b840cc396a9d632261d6 Senha: iana2014 No processo de Consulta procura-se obter contribuições da comunidade regional através de uma consulta pública que permita modelar o debate das múltiplas partes acerca da transição da custódia das funções da IANA na região da América Latina e o Caribe levando em conta as visões, preocupações, sugestões e/ ou recomendações em relação à transição do papel referido e especificamente direcionado às designações de endereços IP. Para mais informações, acesse http://www.lacnic.net/pt/web/lacnic/iana-transicion Dear colleagues, It is our pleasure to invite you to the Teleconference during which the Public Consultation Process with the LACNIC Community on the Transition of Stewardship of the IANA Functions will be launched, which will be held on Friday, 15 August, 2014 at 15:00 UTC, 12 noon Montevideo time. Link: https://lacnic.webex.com/lacnic/j.php?MTID=ma7a083d8ef72b840cc396a9d632261d6 Password: iana2014 The public consultation process seeks to obtain the regional community’s input with a view to shaping the multistakeholder debate on the transition of stewardship of the IANA functions in Latin America and the Caribbean, taking into account regional points of view, concerns, suggestions and/or recommendations regarding this transition, and specifically as it concerns IP address assignment. More information available at http://www.lacnic.net/en/web/lacnic/iana-transicion -- *Andrés Piazza* @andrespiazza

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Re: FW: solicitud de comentarios: Declaraci�n del ALAC sobre la introducci�n de dos caracteres de nombres de dominio en el Nuevo gTLD Espacio de nombres
by devtee＠gmail.com Aug. 12, 2014

Aug. 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: FW: solicitud de comentarios: Declaración del ALAC sobre la introducción de dos caracteres de nombres de dominio en el Nuevo gTLD Espacio de nombres Desde: devtee(a)gmail.com Querido Alberto, Mi intento de una declaración ( https://community.icann.org/x/VqzhAg) dos puntos: - Cuestiones de seguridad o estabilidad Ausente cualquier DNS relacionados, y se les da el uso de 2 cadenas de caracteres de varios gTLD y ccTLD, la conveniencia de se utilizan dominios más cortos a posibles solicitantes de registro y que dos personajes para otros significados, no debería haber ninguna restricción de dos caracteres Etiquetas ASCII en el segundo nivel dentro del TLD como por los acuerdos de registro (Especificación 5 cuadras todos dos etiquetas de caracteres en el segundo nivel, por defecto) - La segunda preocupación es con respecto a la lógica que se utiliza para los muchos RSEP las solicitudes de excepción a la especificación del registro 5, que pide que Release 2 no cadenas de letras en la lista ISO actual.Considero que es errónea porque la lista ISO no es estática y se actualiza periódicamente para reflejar los cambios en los países y territorios. Esto da lugar a un potencial disparidad en el futuro en el que algunos países y territorios están protegidos en la Especificación 5, pero los futuros no lo son. Esto (en mi mente), no debe ser y todos los países y territorios deben ser tratados por igual. Sin embargo, este segundo punto ha recibido varios comentarios que si hay consenso para ninguna restricción, ¿por qué solo los RSEPs peticiones, especialmente desde dos etiquetas de caracteres en el segundo nivel ya están sucediendo para varios gTLD y ccTLD? Y si se retira la segunda preocupación, ¿realmente que tenga que decir que la primera preocupación? Dev Anand El viernes, 08 de agosto 2014 a las 1:20 pm, <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> escribió: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: FW: CALL FOR COMMENTS: ALAC Statement on the Introduction of > Two-Character Domain Names in the New gTLD Namespace > From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > Hi Dev, please can make a summary of a few lines on this > subject to our Regin? > > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > > Alberto > > > > > > > From: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Mailto: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of > ICANN > At-Large Staff > Posted on: Friday, August 8, 2014 11:07 a.m. > To: ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [ALAC-Announce] CALL FOR COMMENTS: ALAC Statement on the > Introduction of Two-Character Domain Names in the New gTLD Namespace > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > Olivier Crpin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, you Asked That a call for > be made comments on the draft ALAC Statement on the Introduction of > Two-Character Domain Names in the New gTLD Namespace > < https://community.icann.org/x/VqzhAg> > ALAC ratification process. > > > > > > > The current draft, as well as additional information on the Public > Comment, > can be found on the At-Large Introduction of Two-Character Domain Names in > the New gTLD Namespace Workspace < > https://community.icann.org/x/VqzhAg> > > > > > > > Please submit any comments on the workspace by using the comments function > 11 August 2014 20:00 GMT. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie > Peregrine and Terri Agnew > > > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC > > > E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > <applewebdata://68497759-1B04-4F9B-84B7-B9445B8F305F/Regards,%20Heidi%20Ullr > ich,% 20Vivanco 20Silvia%%% 20Ashtiani 20Matt% 20Liang 20Ariel%%% 20Gru > 20Gisella > ber, 20Nathalie%%% 20and% 20Peregrine 20Julia 20ICANN%%% 20Charvolen > 20Policy% 20Sta > ff% 20in% 20support% 20of% 20ALACmailto: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > > > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/224c92348b.html --]]

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Grupo transición
by Alberto Soto Aug. 12, 2014

Aug. 12, 2014

Estimado Carlton, totalmente de acuerdo. Aida no solo tiene una alta participación prácticamente en todos los temas que tratamos. Cuando no tiene conocimientos profundos, lo aclara. Además tiene una amplísima capacidad de investigación, análisis y conclusión, y un excelente criterio. No tengo dudas de que está capacitada para representarnos donde sea necesario. Gracias a ambos!! Saludos cordiales Alberto Soto -----Mensaje original----- De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Enviado el: domingo, 10 de agosto de 2014 08:21 p.m. Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ??? = UTF-8 Felicitaciones_ampliada_y_Reflexiones _ q = q = UTF-8 sobre_la_Representaci = C3 = B3n_LACRALO = [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: ??? = UTF-8 Felicitaciones_ampliada_y_Reflexiones _ q = q = UTF-8 sobre_la_Representaci = C3 = B3n_LACRALO = Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Estimado Aida: Créeme cuando te digo que está listo para representar. Usted tiene habilidades que traen de su trabajo del día. Y, francamente, incluso mediante la inversión que con una pequeña cantidad de que va a aprender, te hará bien. Aquellos de nosotros antes de que le ayudará a crecer. Tenemos que ampliar el grupo que nuestros compañeros del resto del mundo pensar es lo suficientemente capaz como colaboradores. Y debemos hacer cosas prácticas para que esto suceda. Saludos cordiales, -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y Turnaround * ============================= 08/10/2014 13:17 GMT-05: 00 <aidanoblia(a)gmail.com> : > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re:??? = Utf-8 Felicitaciones_ampliada_y_Reflexiones _ q = q = > utf-8 sobre_la_Representaci = C3 = B3n_LACRALO = > From: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com > > Strongly agree with Carlton. The issue of transition is very complex. > Requires special capacitacin. In my case the difficulties are added > with the language. When I said I was interested in that group I mencionque > t understand that I probably lacked knowledge for that. Being > accepted I have tried to do their best, based on people > in the group, with more knowledge and experience, surely > will resolve issues in the best way. An now I hope as > either. I think that is one way to go still. Habrque plan > towards future. > > > Greetings to all > > > > > > > > > On 10 August 2014, 13.50, <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> I wrote: > > > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > > > Asunto: Felicitaciones ampliada y Reflexiones sobre la RepresentaciÃ³n > > LACRALO > > Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > > > > Felicitaciones a Vanda y Sylvia ambos sabemos aportan aÃ±os de > > el compromiso y la experiencia de la escena mundial de ALC. > > > > > > Tenemos que empezar a construir un equipo de la granja. Y a medida que > > colectivamente seguimos > > mirar hacia adelante, insto a todos a pensar profundamente sobre cÃ³mo > > construimos la > > capacidad en LACRALO para nuestras interacciones globales, para que > otros > > puedan adelantarse > > y representar. SÃ³lo tiene que remitir las conversaciones que suceden en > el > > IANA CoordinaciÃ³n TransiciÃ³n WG para ver los riesgos. > > > > > > Estoy absolutamente seguro de que necesitamos compromisos mÃ¡s amplios y > > profundos. Desde un > > Perspectiva caribeÃ±a, hemos luchado para traer mÃ¡s voces; la > > recomendaciones de becas, los intentos de construir la ELA son sÃ³lo 2 > > medios. Pero > > trabajamos contra ciertas realidades. Y sabemos lo que hacemos es un > > trabajo duro. > > AsÃ, mientras que no perdemos la esperanza, estamos preocupados por los > > nÃºmeros que caminan > > hacia adelante - y las circunstancias - para la representaciÃ³n. > > > > > > Algunos de nosotros somos agotador. > > > > > > AquÃ y ahora, tenemos que empezar a abordar la cuestiÃ³n conscientemente > > la diversidad > > y las formas que tenemos para que sea real. Para no faltar el respeto a > > la ardua labor de > > todos los voluntarios, que son necesarios no sÃ³lo para actuar, sino > > tambiÃ©n mirar a los extraÃ±os > > que LACRALO es realmente representativa. > > > > > > Saludos cordiales, > > -Carlton > > > > > > ============================== > > Carlton A Samuels > > MÃ³vil: 876-818-1799 > > * Estrategia, PlanificaciÃ³n, Gobierno, EvaluaciÃ³n y Turnaround * > > ============================= > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/a2932b94ac.html --]]

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Re: FW: solicitud de comentarios: Declaraci�n del ALAC sobre la introducci�n de dos caracteres de nombres de dominio en el Nuevo gTLD Espacio de nombres
by devtee＠gmail.com Aug. 12, 2014

Aug. 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: FW: solicitud de comentarios: Declaración del ALAC sobre la introducción de dos caracteres de nombres de dominio en el Nuevo gTLD Espacio de nombres Desde: devtee(a)gmail.com Un borrador final se ha subido - ver https://community.icann.org/x/VqzhAg el primer borrador. Dev Anand On Mon, 11 de agosto 2014 a las 8:15 pm, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> escribió: > My views are on the wiki. > > The second concern is moot. What we have is an attempt to shut the gate > after the horse has bolted. Too many 2-character second level domains exist > to outlaw them now in favour of a future development; new countries and > territories assigned a 2-character code that has no real meaning for them. > At least I see .jm it has something of Jamaica there! Think the > principality of Sealand or one of them 'stans' or khanates in Central Asia. > > So it is the first one that remains. I don't think a statement is > necessary. > > -Carlton > > > ============================== > Carlton A Samuels > Mobile: 876-818-1799 > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* > ============================= > > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Dear Alberto, >> >> My attempt at a statement (https://community.icann.org/x/VqzhAg) is to >> say >> two points: >> >> - Absent any DNS related security or stability issues, and given the use >> of >> 2 character strings by several gTLDs and ccTLDs, the desirability of >> shorter domains to possible registrants and that two characters are used >> for other meanings, there should not be any restriction of two character >> ASCII labels at the 2nd level within the TLD as per the registry >> agreements >> (Specification 5 blocks all two character labels at the 2nd level by >> default) >> >> - The 2nd concern is regarding the logic being used for the many RSEP >> requests for an exception to the registry specification 5 which asks to >> release 2 letter strings not in the current ISO list. I consider it flawed >> because the ISO list is not static and is updated periodically to reflect >> changes in countries and territories. This gives rise to a potential >> disparity in the future where some countries and territories are protected >> by Specification 5 but future ones are not. This (in my mind), shouldn't >> be >> and all countries and territories should be treated equally. >> >> However, this second point has received several comments that if there is >> consensus for no restriction, why single out the RSEPs requests, >> especially >> since two character labels at the 2nd level are already happening for >> several gTLDs and ccTLDs? And if the 2nd concern is removed, do we really >> need to say the first concern? >> >> Dev Anand >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM, <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> wrote: >> >> > >> > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] >> > >> > Subject: FW: CALL FOR COMMENTS: ALAC Statement on the Introduction of >> > Two-Character Domain Names in the New gTLD Namespace >> > From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org >> > >> > Hi Dev, please can make a summary of a few lines on this >> > subject to our Regin? >> > >> > >> > Thank you very much! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Alberto >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > [Mailto: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of >> > ICANN >> > At-Large Staff >> > Posted on: Friday, August 8, 2014 11:07 a.m. >> > To: ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > Subject: [ALAC-Announce] CALL FOR COMMENTS: ALAC Statement on the >> > Introduction of Two-Character Domain Names in the New gTLD Namespace >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Dear All, >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Olivier Crpin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, you Asked That a call for >> > be made comments on the draft ALAC Statement on the Introduction of >> > Two-Character Domain Names in the New gTLD Namespace >> > < https://community.icann.org/x/VqzhAg> >> > ALAC ratification process. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > The current draft, as well as additional information on the Public >> > Comment, >> > can be found on the At-Large Introduction of Two-Character Domain >> Names in >> > the New gTLD Namespace Workspace < >> > https://community.icann.org/x/VqzhAg> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Please submit any comments on the workspace by using the comments >> function >> > 11 August 2014 20:00 GMT. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie >> > Peregrine and Terri Agnew >> > >> > >> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC >> > >> > >> > E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org >> > >> > >> <applewebdata://68497759-1B04-4F9B-84B7-B9445B8F305F/Regards,%20Heidi%20Ullr >> > ich,% 20Vivanco 20Silvia%%% 20Ashtiani 20Matt% 20Liang 20Ariel%%% 20Gru >> > 20Gisella >> > ber, 20Nathalie%%% 20and% 20Peregrine 20Julia 20ICANN%%% 20Charvolen >> > 20Policy% 20Sta >> > ff% 20in% 20support% 20of% 20ALACmailto: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/04e03ee08d.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] ? = UTF-8 Grupo_transici q = C3 = B3n =
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com Aug. 12, 2014

Aug. 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re:? = UTF-8 Grupo_transici q = C3 = B3n = Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Hola Aida: Tenemos que seguir adelante. Por lo que a mí respecta el ALAC tiene sus objeciones en el expediente. Eso es una ventaja. Tiempo para el juego de poder de Poncio Pilato. La propuesta que ahora se examina es de 3 posiciones de liderazgo, para 4 personas aplicada / nominado. Simplemente reiterar la posición de ALAC (el 1 + 3 configuración), muestran cómo se ajusta perfectamente lo que esta en el orden del día. Entonces ser magnánimo y declarar el apoyo a cualquiera que sea la decisión de consenso que emerge o sin embargo se decidió. Y al igual que el poder de Poncio Pilato, nos lavamos las manos de todo. -Carlton -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y Turnaround * ============================= 11/08/2014 16:19 GMT-05: 00 <aidanoblia(a)gmail.com> : > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re:? = Utf-8 Grupo_transici q = C3 = B3n = > From: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com > > Alberto, Carlton, FÃ¡tima, Dev and all > > > > > Regarding the transition, which is key issue: > As for the charges: > How you take, qupapel plays within the system of resolution there, > ALAC opinion Of the 5, 1 + 4? . I understand that marks the spirit > general, because in the virtual reunin, chatting surgi1 + 2 as accepted > by consensus but faced with 1 + 1. I expresque "1 + 2 is > better" because > the other proposal was 1 + 1, but not because it was the best deal > possible > but within those two options. Also there was another proposal but 1 + 2 > 1 + 3 better still chatting. In other words, the idea was not numerical > but expand it > ms be the number to reach at least 5 regions, which will > as the ideal situation representation by region. That idea understand > clearly arises at this point.The consensus amounts dirlas > taken into account but accepted the idea certainly is to expand the > representation. > > > > > Quopinan you? What would be a proposal and consensus block? > What is the strength of the position of ALAC? > > > There is a deadline last hour today which Jean Jacques S. piditbNL> > prrroga ... > > > Greetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The August 10, 2014, 22:39 Aida Noblia <aidanoblia(a)gmail.com> I wrote: > > > > Siendo asÃ podemos continuar acÃ¡ entonces. Ayer hubo muchos correos en la > > lista, respecto a las autoridades (presidencia, vicepresidencia) como > > respecto a las dos versiones de la carta.. Creo que es importante ir > > siguiendo todo este material. Hay que tratar de lograr un consenso para > > poder avanzar. Respecto al tema presidencia y vices son cuestiones que > > tambiÃ©n se manejan por otro lado y vÃ que habÃa habido ofrecimientos de > > algÃºn cargo y aceptaciÃ³n.. eso aparte de la lista.. es como que estos > temas > > se estÃ¡n manejando en varias listas y Ã¡mbitos.. tal vez ustedes puedan > > entender mejor. DespuÃ©s de que en la reuniÃ³n aceptamos 1 presidente y 2 > > vices en la mayorÃa del chat, se vuelve a conversar esto y en algunos de > > los correos menciona que la propuesta llega a 5, con lo que podrÃan estar > > representadas las 5 regiones segÃºn se menciona.. esta informaciÃ³n viene > de > > otro Ã¡mbito segÃºn alguno de los mails. No me queda clara la metodologÃa > de > > trabajo respecto a cÃ³mo se relacionan los aportes de los diferentes > > Ã¡mbitos. Confieso que aparece como algo desordenado pero tal vez esto se > > pueda ir ordenando en el proceso..el tema es visualizar hacia dÃ³nde lleva > > todo este estilo. TambiÃ©n: quÃ© se espera del Grupo y cuÃ¡l es su > > especificidad respecto a esos otros Ã¡mbitos. Al menos podemos tratar de > > compartir acÃ¡ informaciÃ³n y tratar de encontrar una visiÃ³n comÃºn. > > > > > > Saludos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El 10 de agosto de 2014, 22:02, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> > > escribiÃ³: > > > > Aida, estamos en un proceso transparente, todos tienen que enterarse de > >> todo. > >> > >> Saludos cordiales > >> > >> > >> > >> Alberto Soto > >> > >> > >> > >> *De:* Aida Noblia [mailto:aidanoblia@gmail.com] > >> *Enviado el:* domingo, 10 de agosto de 2014 09:57 p.m. > >> *Para:* Alberto Soto > >> *CC:* <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > >> *Asunto:* Re: [lac-discuss-es] Grupo transiciÃ³n > >> > >> > >> > >> Alberto muchas gracias. Creo que exageran un poco pero les agradezco . > >> Ahora habrÃ¡ que trabajar duro en esto. Tal vez no sea Ã©sta la lista > >> designada para eso, disculpen si mezclÃ© un poco los temas. Ustedes dirÃ¡n > >> cuÃ¡l es el mejor medio. > >> > >> > >> > >> Saludos > >> > >> > >> > >> El 10 de agosto de 2014, 20:26, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > > >> escribiÃ³: > >> > >> Estimado Carlton, totalmente de acuerdo. Aida no solo tiene una alta > >> participaciÃ³n prÃ¡cticamente en todos los temas que tratamos. Cuando no > >> tiene > >> conocimientos profundos, lo aclara. AdemÃ¡s tiene una amplÃsima capacidad > >> de > >> investigaciÃ³n, anÃ¡lisis y conclusiÃ³n, y un excelente criterio. > >> No tengo dudas de que estÃ¡ capacitada para representarnos donde sea > >> necesario. > >> Gracias a ambos!! > >> Saludos cordiales > >> > >> Alberto Soto > >> > >> -----Mensaje original----- > >> De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >> [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de > >> carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > >> Enviado el: domingo, 10 de agosto de 2014 08:21 p.m. > >> Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >> Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ??? = UTF-8 > >> Felicitaciones_ampliada_y_Reflexiones _ q = q = UTF-8 > >> sobre_la_Representaci > >> = C3 = B3n_LACRALO = > >> > >> > >> [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > >> > >> Asunto: Re: ??? = UTF-8 Felicitaciones_ampliada_y_Reflexiones _ q = q = > >> UTF-8 sobre_la_Representaci = C3 = B3n_LACRALO = > >> Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > >> > >> Estimado Aida: > >> CrÃ©eme cuando te digo que estÃ¡ listo para representar. Usted tiene > >> habilidades que traen de su trabajo del dÃa. Y, francamente, incluso > >> mediante la inversiÃ³n que con una pequeÃ±a cantidad de que va a > aprender, > >> te > >> harÃ¡ bien. Aquellos de nosotros antes de que le ayudarÃ¡ a crecer. > >> > >> > >> Tenemos que ampliar el grupo que nuestros compaÃ±eros del resto del > mundo > >> pensar es lo suficientemente capaz como colaboradores. Y debemos hacer > >> cosas > >> prÃ¡cticas para que esto suceda. > >> > >> > >> Saludos cordiales, > >> -Carlton > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Carlton A Samuels > >> MÃ³vil: 876-818-1799 > >> * Estrategia, PlanificaciÃ³n, Gobierno, EvaluaciÃ³n y Turnaround * > >> ============================= > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 08/10/2014 13:17 GMT-05: 00 <aidanoblia(a)gmail.com> : > >> > > >> > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > >> > > >> > Subject: Re:??? = Utf-8 Felicitaciones_ampliada_y_Reflexiones _ q = > q = > >> > utf-8 sobre_la_Representaci = C3 = B3n_LACRALO = > >> > From: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com > >> > > >> > Strongly agree with Carlton. The issue of transition is very complex. > >> > Requires special capacitacin. In my case the difficulties are added > >> > with the language. When I said I was interested in that group I > >> mencionque > >> > t understand that I probably lacked knowledge for that. Being > >> > accepted I have tried to do their best, based on people > >> > in the group, with more knowledge and experience, surely > >> > will resolve issues in the best way. An now I hope as > >> > either. I think that is one way to go still. Habrque plan > >> > towards future. > >> > > >> > > >> > Greetings to all > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 10 August 2014, 13.50, <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> I wrote: > >> > > > >> > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > >> > > > >> > > Asunto: Felicitaciones ampliada y Reflexiones sobre la > >> RepresentaciÃÂ³n > >> > > LACRALO > >> > > Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > >> > > > >> > > Felicitaciones a Vanda y Sylvia ambos sabemos aportan aÃÂ±os de > >> > > el compromiso y la experiencia de la escena mundial de ALC. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Tenemos que empezar a construir un equipo de la granja. Y a medida > >> que > >> > > colectivamente seguimos > >> > > mirar hacia adelante, insto a todos a pensar profundamente sobre > >> cÃÂ³mo > >> > > construimos la > >> > > capacidad en LACRALO para nuestras interacciones globales, para que > >> > otros > >> > > puedan adelantarse > >> > > y representar. SÃÂ³lo tiene que remitir las conversaciones que > suceden > >> en > >> > el > >> > > IANA CoordinaciÃÂ³n TransiciÃÂ³n WG para ver los riesgos. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Estoy absolutamente seguro de que necesitamos compromisos mÃÂ¡s > >> amplios > >> y > >> > > profundos. Desde un > >> > > Perspectiva caribeÃÂ±a, hemos luchado para traer mÃÂ¡s voces; la > >> > > recomendaciones de becas, los intentos de construir la ELA son > sÃÂ³lo > >> 2 > >> > > medios. Pero > >> > > trabajamos contra ciertas realidades. Y sabemos lo que hacemos es > un > >> > > trabajo duro. > >> > > AsÃÂ, mientras que no perdemos la esperanza, estamos preocupados > por > >> los > >> > > nÃÂºmeros que caminan > >> > > hacia adelante - y las circunstancias - para la representaciÃÂ³n. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Algunos de nosotros somos agotador. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > AquÃÂ y ahora, tenemos que empezar a abordar la cuestiÃÂ³n > >> conscientemente > >> > > la diversidad > >> > > y las formas que tenemos para que sea real. Para no faltar el > >> respeto a > >> > > la ardua labor de > >> > > todos los voluntarios, que son necesarios no sÃÂ³lo para actuar, > sino > >> > > tambiÃÂ©n mirar a los extraÃÂ±os > >> > > que LACRALO es realmente representativa. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Saludos cordiales, > >> > > -Carlton > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ============================== > >> > > Carlton A Samuels > >> > > MÃÂ³vil: 876-818-1799 > >> > > * Estrategia, PlanificaciÃÂ³n, Gobierno, EvaluaciÃÂ³n y Turnaround * > >> > > ============================= > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/da93717b08.html --]]

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Re: FW: solicitud de comentarios: Declaraci�n del ALAC sobre la introducci�n de dos caracteres de nombres de dominio en el Nuevo gTLD Espacio de nombres
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com Aug. 12, 2014

Aug. 12, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: FW: solicitud de comentarios: Declaración del ALAC sobre la introducción de dos caracteres de nombres de dominio en el Nuevo gTLD Espacio de nombres Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Mis puntos de vista están en el wiki. La segunda preocupación es discutible. Lo que tenemos es un intento de cerrar la puerta después de que el caballo se ha escapado. Existen demasiados dominios de segundo nivel de 2 caracteres para ilegalizar ahora a favor de un desarrollo futuro; nuevos países y territorios asigna un código de 2 caracteres que no tiene un significado real para ellos. Al menos veo .jm que tiene algo de Jamaica allí! Piense el principado de Sealand o uno de ellos 'stans' o khanates en Asia Central. Así que es el primero que se mantiene. No creo que una declaración es necesario. -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y Turnaround * ============================= On Mon, 11 de agosto 2014 a las 12:39 pm, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com> escribió: > Dear Alberto, > > My attempt at a statement (https://community.icann.org/x/VqzhAg) is to > say > two points: > > - Absent any DNS related security or stability issues, and given the use of > 2 character strings by several gTLDs and ccTLDs, the desirability of > shorter domains to possible registrants and that two characters are used > for other meanings, there should not be any restriction of two character > ASCII labels at the 2nd level within the TLD as per the registry agreements > (Specification 5 blocks all two character labels at the 2nd level by > default) > > - The 2nd concern is regarding the logic being used for the many RSEP > requests for an exception to the registry specification 5 which asks to > release 2 letter strings not in the current ISO list. I consider it flawed > because the ISO list is not static and is updated periodically to reflect > changes in countries and territories. This gives rise to a potential > disparity in the future where some countries and territories are protected > by Specification 5 but future ones are not. This (in my mind), shouldn't be > and all countries and territories should be treated equally. > > However, this second point has received several comments that if there is > consensus for no restriction, why single out the RSEPs requests, especially > since two character labels at the 2nd level are already happening for > several gTLDs and ccTLDs? And if the 2nd concern is removed, do we really > need to say the first concern? > > Dev Anand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM, <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> wrote: > > > > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > > > Subject: FW: CALL FOR COMMENTS: ALAC Statement on the Introduction of > > Two-Character Domain Names in the New gTLD Namespace > > From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > > > Hi Dev, please can make a summary of a few lines on this > > subject to our Regin? > > > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alberto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > [Mailto: alac-announce-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of > > ICANN > > At-Large Staff > > Posted on: Friday, August 8, 2014 11:07 a.m. > > To: ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: [ALAC-Announce] CALL FOR COMMENTS: ALAC Statement on the > > Introduction of Two-Character Domain Names in the New gTLD Namespace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Olivier Crpin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, you Asked That a call for > > be made comments on the draft ALAC Statement on the Introduction of > > Two-Character Domain Names in the New gTLD Namespace > > < https://community.icann.org/x/VqzhAg> > > ALAC ratification process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The current draft, as well as additional information on the Public > > Comment, > > can be found on the At-Large Introduction of Two-Character Domain Names > in > > the New gTLD Namespace Workspace < > > https://community.icann.org/x/VqzhAg> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please submit any comments on the workspace by using the comments > function > > 11 August 2014 20:00 GMT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie > > Peregrine and Terri Agnew > > > > > > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC > > > > > > E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > > > > > <applewebdata://68497759-1B04-4F9B-84B7-B9445B8F305F/Regards,%20Heidi%20Ullr > > ich,% 20Vivanco 20Silvia%%% 20Ashtiani 20Matt% 20Liang 20Ariel%%% 20Gru > > 20Gisella > > ber, 20Nathalie%%% 20and% 20Peregrine 20Julia 20ICANN%%% 20Charvolen > > 20Policy% 20Sta > > ff% 20in% 20support% 20of% 20ALACmailto: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > > > > > > > > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/8f693a99b1.html --]]

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Re: Felicidades ampliada y Reflexiones sobre la Representaci�n LACRALO
by brainstreetceo＠gmail.com Aug. 11, 2014

Aug. 11, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Felicidades ampliada y Reflexiones sobre la Representación LACRALO Desde: brainstreetceo(a)gmail.com 1 Lanza Hinds Jefe Ejecutivo El Grupo BrainStreet www.brainstreetgroup.com Enviado desde iPad meh eh .... > On Aug 10, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Congratulations to Vanda and Sylvia both of whom we know bring years of > engagement and experience to the global stage from LAC. > > We need to start building a farm team. And as we collectively continue to > look forward, I urge all of us to think deeply about how we build the > capacity in LACRALO for our global interactions, for others to come forward > and represent. You only need to refer the conversations happening at the > IANA Coordination Transition WG to see the risks. > > I am absolutely sure we need broader and deeper engagements. From a > Caribbean perspective, we have struggled to bring in more voices; the > fellowship recommendations, the attempts to build ALS are just 2 means. But > we labour against certain realities. And we know what we do is hard work. > So while we remain hopeful, we are concerned about the numbers stepping > forward - and the circumstances - for representation. > > Some of us are tiring. > > Here and now, we must begin to consciously address the diversity question > and the ways we have to make it real. For no disrespect to the hard work of > all volunteers, we are required not only to act but also look to outsiders > that LACRALO is indeed representative. > > Kind regards, > -Carlton > > ============================== > Carlton A Samuels > Mobile: 876-818-1799 > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* > ============================= > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/2f3bf92be1.html --]]

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Felicitaciones Vanda - Sylvia
by Johnny Laureano Aug. 11, 2014

Aug. 11, 2014

Estimadas Vanda y Sylvia, Para expresarles mis felicitaciones por su nombramiento, consideramos que esta es una buena oportunidad para que en perfecto trabajo y en equipo con Dev y Fátima, puedan lograr objetivos y metas en beneficio de la comunidad LACRALO y de los sagrados intereses de los usuarios finales de Internet de la Región Latinoamericana y del Caribe por igual. Un abrazo, Johnny L. AUI PERU

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Re: Felicidades ampliada y Reflexiones sobre la Representaci�n LACRALO
by devtee＠gmail.com Aug. 11, 2014

Aug. 11, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Felicidades ampliada y Reflexiones sobre la Representación LACRALO Desde: devtee(a)gmail.com En efecto Dev Anand El Sol, 10 de agosto 2014 a las 12:48 pm, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Congratulations to Vanda and Sylvia both of whom we know bring years of > engagement and experience to the global stage from LAC. > > We need to start building a farm team. And as we collectively continue to > look forward, I urge all of us to think deeply about how we build the > capacity in LACRALO for our global interactions, for others to come forward > and represent. You only need to refer the conversations happening at the > IANA Coordination Transition WG to see the risks. > > I am absolutely sure we need broader and deeper engagements. From a > Caribbean perspective, we have struggled to bring in more voices; the > fellowship recommendations, the attempts to build ALS are just 2 means. But > we labour against certain realities. And we know what we do is hard work. > So while we remain hopeful, we are concerned about the numbers stepping > forward - and the circumstances - for representation. > > Some of us are tiring. > > Here and now, we must begin to consciously address the diversity question > and the ways we have to make it real. For no disrespect to the hard work of > all volunteers, we are required not only to act but also look to outsiders > that LACRALO is indeed representative. > > Kind regards, > -Carlton > > ============================== > Carlton A Samuels > Mobile: 876-818-1799 > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* > ============================= > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/8c9b91eba4.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] ALAC representatividad Felicitaciones
by silvia.vivanco＠icann.org Aug. 11, 2014

Aug. 11, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: ALAC representatividad Felicitaciones Desde: silvia.vivanco(a)icann.org Estimada Vanda, En Nombre del personal, POR felicito la do eleccin de Como Representante de LACRALO ante el ALAC. El personal del queda un su disposicin párrafo ayudarla Con Los Asuntos referidos al ALAC y LACRALO. Saludos cordiales Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, En Asuntos Regionales Grande ICANN | Internet Corporationfor la Asignación de Nombres y Números de Internet www.icann.org ----- Original Message ----- De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] a nombre de Vanda Enviado el: Sábado, 09 de agosto 2014 20:20 Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; Lista de LACRALO Asunto: [discutir es-lac-] representante de ALAC Estimados Colegas amigos Y de LACRALO, Cumprimentando una elección Sylvia Por Su, Agradezco a Todos por la confidencia a mi depositada y Tienen mi Compromiso de Trabajar el párrafo región our Mejor párr. Abrazos Queridos colegas LacRALO y amigos, Felicitando a Sylvia por su elección, les agradezco a todos por la confianza en mí y por la presente mi compromiso de hacer lo mejor para nuestra región. Todo lo mejor, Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, CJ 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brasil Línea del terreno: +55 11 3266.6253 Móvil: + 55 11 98181.1464 _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/83ae86ac9b.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] ALAC representative- Felicitaciones
by Silvia Vivanco Aug. 11, 2014

Aug. 11, 2014

Estimada Vanda, En nombre del staff, la felicito por su elección como representante de LACRALO ante el ALAC. El staff queda a su disposición para ayudarla con los asuntos referidos al ALAC y LACRALO. Saludos cordiales Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, At Large Regional Affairs ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers www.icann.org -----Original Message----- From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Vanda Scartezini Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 8:20 PM To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org; LACRALO list Subject: [lac-discuss-es] ALAC representative Estimados colegas y amigos de LACRALO, Cumprimentando a Sylvia por su election, agradezco a todos por la confidencia a mi depositada y tienen mi compromiso de trabajar para el mejor para nuestra region. Abrazos Dear Lacralo colleagues and friends, , Congratulating Sylvia for her election, I thank you all for the confidence on me and hereby my commitment to do the best for our region. All the best, Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org

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Re: Felicidades ampliada y Reflexiones sobre la Representaci�n LACRALO
by josefranciscoarce＠gmail.com Aug. 11, 2014

Aug. 11, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Felicidades ampliada y Reflexiones sobre la Representación LACRALO Desde: josefranciscoarce(a)gmail.com Quiero felicitar a Vanda y Sylvia también !!!! Todo lo mejor para este nuevo período !! Dos excelentes Brazilian Girls;) José.- 08/10/2014 13:48 GMT-03: 00 Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> : > Congratulations to Vanda and Sylvia both of whom we know bring years of > engagement and experience to the global stage from LAC. > > We need to start building a farm team. And as we collectively continue to > look forward, I urge all of us to think deeply about how we build the > capacity in LACRALO for our global interactions, for others to come forward > and represent. You only need to refer the conversations happening at the > IANA Coordination Transition WG to see the risks. > > I am absolutely sure we need broader and deeper engagements. From a > Caribbean perspective, we have struggled to bring in more voices; the > fellowship recommendations, the attempts to build ALS are just 2 means. But > we labour against certain realities. And we know what we do is hard work. > So while we remain hopeful, we are concerned about the numbers stepping > forward - and the circumstances - for representation. > > Some of us are tiring. > > Here and now, we must begin to consciously address the diversity question > and the ways we have to make it real. For no disrespect to the hard work of > all volunteers, we are required not only to act but also look to outsiders > that LACRALO is indeed representative. > > Kind regards, > -Carlton > > ============================== > Carlton A Samuels > Mobile: 876-818-1799 > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* > ============================= > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > Arce, José F. http://lnkd.in/bPdTThz _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en la lista de correo lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/176ad3f704.html --]]

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New ALS Application received
by ICANN At-Large Staff Aug. 11, 2014

Aug. 11, 2014

Dear All, This is to inform you that we received an ALS application from Internauta Colombia. It is based in Bogota, Colombia and would be a member of LACRALO if accepted. Please find the application form attached. Staff are preparing the Due Diligence. -- -- Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Terri Agnew ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann.atlarge Twitter: @ICANN_AtLarge

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Grupo transición ALAC
by Alberto Soto Aug. 11, 2014

Aug. 11, 2014

Para que no haya confusión, ahora agregué que esto es del grupo Transición ALAC, no LACRALO. Coincido con que no está clara la metodología de trabajo entre el grupo de trabajo de ALAC y el ICG (grupo encargado de confeccionar la propuesta final de ICANN para la transición IANA),y creo que dentro del ICG tampoco. Hay resoluciones que no coinciden con la normativa general de creación del grupo; hay coordinaciones a destiempo que causan retrocesos importantes. Pretendíamos desde ALAC que haya representación de las cinco Regiones, pero parece que eso no se logrará. Si no es así, se tratará de asegurar al menos llegar con la posición de nuestra Región. De allí mi interés como Presidente de LACRALO que podamos tomar conocimiento de estas reuniones. En cuento esto esté un poco ordenado, lo pondré a disposición de nuestra lista y será material de trabajo para nuestros grupo similar. Saludos cordiales Alberto Soto De: Aida Noblia [mailto:aidanoblia@gmail.com] Enviado el: domingo, 10 de agosto de 2014 10:39 p.m. Para: Alberto Soto CC: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Grupo transición Siendo así podemos continuar acá entonces. Ayer hubo muchos correos en la lista, respecto a las autoridades (presidencia, vicepresidencia) como respecto a las dos versiones de la carta.. Creo que es importante ir siguiendo todo este material. Hay que tratar de lograr un consenso para poder avanzar. Respecto al tema presidencia y vices son cuestiones que también se manejan por otro lado y ví que había habido ofrecimientos de algún cargo y aceptación.. eso aparte de la lista.. es como que estos temas se están manejando en varias listas y ámbitos.. tal vez ustedes puedan entender mejor. Después de que en la reunión aceptamos 1 presidente y 2 vices en la mayoría del chat, se vuelve a conversar esto y en algunos de los correos menciona que la propuesta llega a 5, con lo que podrían estar representadas las 5 regiones según se menciona.. esta información viene de otro ámbito según alguno de los mails. No me queda clara la metodología de trabajo respecto a cómo se relacionan los aportes de los diferentes ámbitos. Confieso que aparece como algo desordenado pero tal vez esto se pueda ir ordenando en el proceso..el tema es visualizar hacia dónde lleva todo este estilo. También: qué se espera del Grupo y cuál es su especificidad respecto a esos otros ámbitos. Al menos podemos tratar de compartir acá información y tratar de encontrar una visión común. Saludos El 10 de agosto de 2014, 22:02, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> > escribió: Aida, estamos en un proceso transparente, todos tienen que enterarse de todo. Saludos cordiales Alberto Soto De: Aida Noblia [mailto:aidanoblia@gmail.com <mailto:aidanoblia@gmail.com> ] Enviado el: domingo, 10 de agosto de 2014 09:57 p.m. Para: Alberto Soto CC: <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Grupo transición Alberto muchas gracias. Creo que exageran un poco pero les agradezco . Ahora habrá que trabajar duro en esto. Tal vez no sea ésta la lista designada para eso, disculpen si mezclé un poco los temas. Ustedes dirán cuál es el mejor medio. Saludos El 10 de agosto de 2014, 20:26, Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> > escribió: Estimado Carlton, totalmente de acuerdo. Aida no solo tiene una alta participación prácticamente en todos los temas que tratamos. Cuando no tiene conocimientos profundos, lo aclara. Además tiene una amplísima capacidad de investigación, análisis y conclusión, y un excelente criterio. No tengo dudas de que está capacitada para representarnos donde sea necesario. Gracias a ambos!! Saludos cordiales Alberto Soto -----Mensaje original----- De: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] En nombre de carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com> Enviado el: domingo, 10 de agosto de 2014 08:21 p.m. Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ??? = UTF-8 Felicitaciones_ampliada_y_Reflexiones _ q = q = UTF-8 sobre_la_Representaci = C3 = B3n_LACRALO = [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: ??? = UTF-8 Felicitaciones_ampliada_y_Reflexiones _ q = q = UTF-8 sobre_la_Representaci = C3 = B3n_LACRALO = Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com> Estimado Aida: Créeme cuando te digo que está listo para representar. Usted tiene habilidades que traen de su trabajo del día. Y, francamente, incluso mediante la inversión que con una pequeña cantidad de que va a aprender, te hará bien. Aquellos de nosotros antes de que le ayudará a crecer. Tenemos que ampliar el grupo que nuestros compañeros del resto del mundo pensar es lo suficientemente capaz como colaboradores. Y debemos hacer cosas prácticas para que esto suceda. Saludos cordiales, -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 <tel:876-818-1799> * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y Turnaround * ============================= 08/10/2014 13:17 GMT-05: 00 <aidanoblia(a)gmail.com <mailto:aidanoblia@gmail.com> > : > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re:??? = Utf-8 Felicitaciones_ampliada_y_Reflexiones _ q = q = > utf-8 sobre_la_Representaci = C3 = B3n_LACRALO = > From: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com <mailto:aidanoblia@gmail.com> > > Strongly agree with Carlton. The issue of transition is very complex. > Requires special capacitacin. In my case the difficulties are added > with the language. When I said I was interested in that group I mencionque > t understand that I probably lacked knowledge for that. Being > accepted I have tried to do their best, based on people > in the group, with more knowledge and experience, surely > will resolve issues in the best way. An now I hope as > either. I think that is one way to go still. Habrque plan > towards future. > > > Greetings to all > > > > > > > > > On 10 August 2014, 13.50, <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com> > I wrote: > > > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > > > Asunto: Felicitaciones ampliada y Reflexiones sobre la RepresentaciÃ³n > > LACRALO > > Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com> > > > > Felicitaciones a Vanda y Sylvia ambos sabemos aportan aÃ±os de > > el compromiso y la experiencia de la escena mundial de ALC. > > > > > > Tenemos que empezar a construir un equipo de la granja. Y a medida que > > colectivamente seguimos > > mirar hacia adelante, insto a todos a pensar profundamente sobre cÃ³mo > > construimos la > > capacidad en LACRALO para nuestras interacciones globales, para que > otros > > puedan adelantarse > > y representar. SÃ³lo tiene que remitir las conversaciones que suceden en > el > > IANA CoordinaciÃ³n TransiciÃ³n WG para ver los riesgos. > > > > > > Estoy absolutamente seguro de que necesitamos compromisos mÃ¡s amplios y > > profundos. Desde un > > Perspectiva caribeÃ±a, hemos luchado para traer mÃ¡s voces; la > > recomendaciones de becas, los intentos de construir la ELA son sÃ³lo 2 > > medios. Pero > > trabajamos contra ciertas realidades. Y sabemos lo que hacemos es un > > trabajo duro. > > AsÃ, mientras que no perdemos la esperanza, estamos preocupados por los > > nÃºmeros que caminan > > hacia adelante - y las circunstancias - para la representaciÃ³n. > > > > > > Algunos de nosotros somos agotador. > > > > > > AquÃ y ahora, tenemos que empezar a abordar la cuestiÃ³n conscientemente > > la diversidad > > y las formas que tenemos para que sea real. Para no faltar el respeto a > > la ardua labor de > > todos los voluntarios, que son necesarios no sÃ³lo para actuar, sino > > tambiÃ©n mirar a los extraÃ±os > > que LACRALO es realmente representativa. > > > > > > Saludos cordiales, > > -Carlton > > > > > > ============================== > > Carlton A Samuels > > MÃ³vil: 876-818-1799 <tel:876-818-1799> > > * Estrategia, PlanificaciÃ³n, Gobierno, EvaluaciÃ³n y Turnaround * > > ============================= > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/a2932b94ac.html --]] _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-es mailing list lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es http://www.lacralo.org -- Aida Noblia -- Aida Noblia

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] ??? = UTF-8 Felicitaciones_ampliada_y_Reflexiones _ q = q = UTF-8 sobre_la_Representaci = C3 = B3n_LACRALO =
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com Aug. 11, 2014

Aug. 11, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: ??? = UTF-8 Felicitaciones_ampliada_y_Reflexiones _ q = q = UTF-8 sobre_la_Representaci = C3 = B3n_LACRALO = Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Estimado Aida: Créeme cuando te digo que está listo para representar. Usted tiene habilidades que traen de su trabajo del día. Y, francamente, incluso mediante la inversión que con una pequeña cantidad de que va a aprender, te hará bien. Aquellos de nosotros antes de que le ayudará a crecer. Tenemos que ampliar el grupo que nuestros compañeros del resto del mundo pensar es lo suficientemente capaz como colaboradores. Y debemos hacer cosas prácticas para que esto suceda. Saludos cordiales, -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y Turnaround * ============================= 08/10/2014 13:17 GMT-05: 00 <aidanoblia(a)gmail.com> : > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re:??? = Utf-8 Felicitaciones_ampliada_y_Reflexiones _ q = q = > utf-8 sobre_la_Representaci = C3 = B3n_LACRALO = > From: aidanoblia(a)gmail.com > > Strongly agree with Carlton. The issue of transition is very complex. > Requires special capacitacin. In my case the difficulties are added > with the language. When I said I was interested in that group I mencionque > t understand that I probably lacked knowledge for that. Being > accepted I have tried to do their best, based on people > in the group, with more knowledge and experience, surely > will resolve issues in the best way. An now I hope as > either. I think that is one way to go still. Habrque plan > towards future. > > > Greetings to all > > > > > > > > > On 10 August 2014, 13.50, <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> I wrote: > > > > [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] > > > > Asunto: Felicitaciones ampliada y Reflexiones sobre la RepresentaciÃ³n > > LACRALO > > Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > > > > Felicitaciones a Vanda y Sylvia ambos sabemos aportan aÃ±os de > > el compromiso y la experiencia de la escena mundial de ALC. > > > > > > Tenemos que empezar a construir un equipo de la granja. Y a medida que > > colectivamente seguimos > > mirar hacia adelante, insto a todos a pensar profundamente sobre cÃ³mo > > construimos la > > capacidad en LACRALO para nuestras interacciones globales, para que > otros > > puedan adelantarse > > y representar. SÃ³lo tiene que remitir las conversaciones que suceden en > el > > IANA CoordinaciÃ³n TransiciÃ³n WG para ver los riesgos. > > > > > > Estoy absolutamente seguro de que necesitamos compromisos mÃ¡s amplios y > > profundos. Desde un > > Perspectiva caribeÃ±a, hemos luchado para traer mÃ¡s voces; la > > recomendaciones de becas, los intentos de construir la ELA son sÃ³lo 2 > > medios. Pero > > trabajamos contra ciertas realidades. Y sabemos lo que hacemos es un > > trabajo duro. > > AsÃ, mientras que no perdemos la esperanza, estamos preocupados por los > > nÃºmeros que caminan > > hacia adelante - y las circunstancias - para la representaciÃ³n. > > > > > > Algunos de nosotros somos agotador. > > > > > > AquÃ y ahora, tenemos que empezar a abordar la cuestiÃ³n conscientemente > > la diversidad > > y las formas que tenemos para que sea real. Para no faltar el respeto a > > la ardua labor de > > todos los voluntarios, que son necesarios no sÃ³lo para actuar, sino > > tambiÃ©n mirar a los extraÃ±os > > que LACRALO es realmente representativa. > > > > > > Saludos cordiales, > > -Carlton > > > > > > ============================== > > Carlton A Samuels > > MÃ³vil: 876-818-1799 > > * Estrategia, PlanificaciÃ³n, Gobierno, EvaluaciÃ³n y Turnaround * > > ============================= > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/a2932b94ac.html --]]

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Felicitaciones ampliada y Reflexiones sobre la Representaci�n LACRALO
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com Aug. 10, 2014

Aug. 10, 2014

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Felicitaciones ampliada y Reflexiones sobre la Representación LACRALO Desde: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Felicitaciones a Vanda y Sylvia ambos sabemos aportan años de el compromiso y la experiencia de la escena mundial de ALC. Tenemos que empezar a construir un equipo de la granja. Y a medida que colectivamente seguimos mirar hacia adelante, insto a todos a pensar profundamente sobre cómo construimos la capacidad en LACRALO para nuestras interacciones globales, para que otros puedan adelantarse y representar. Sólo tiene que remitir las conversaciones que suceden en el IANA Coordinación Transición WG para ver los riesgos. Estoy absolutamente seguro de que necesitamos compromisos más amplios y profundos. Desde un Perspectiva caribeña, hemos luchado para traer más voces; la recomendaciones de becas, los intentos de construir la ELA son sólo 2 medios. Pero trabajamos contra ciertas realidades. Y sabemos lo que hacemos es un trabajo duro. Así, mientras que no perdemos la esperanza, estamos preocupados por los números que caminan hacia adelante - y las circunstancias - para la representación. Algunos de nosotros somos agotador. Aquí y ahora, tenemos que empezar a abordar la cuestión conscientemente la diversidad y las formas que tenemos para que sea real. Para no faltar el respeto a la ardua labor de todos los voluntarios, que son necesarios no sólo para actuar, sino también mirar a los extraños que LACRALO es realmente representativa. Saludos cordiales, -Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planificación, Gobierno, Evaluación y Turnaround * ============================= _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/807155f571.html --]]

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